Digest for mc@topica.com, issue 500

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Hypnotism By William James(1952) By eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com

MC:Did Williams' counselor activate suicide program as well as murder program? By ecotoday@aol.com

Re:MC:Did Williams' counselor..... By eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com

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Date: Thu, 15-Mar-2001 00:38:04 GMT From: James R. Rose <eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com> Subject: Hypnotism By William James(1952)

Ecclesiastes :: The Segregated Fields ::: William James, Principles of Psychology(1952):: Hypnotism (continued) Changes in nutrition of the tissues can be produced by suggestion. These effects lead into therapeutics--a subject which I do not propose to treat of here. But I may say there seems no reasonable ground for doubting that in certain chosen subjects the suggestion of a congestion, a burn, a blister, a raised papule, or a bleeding from the nose or skin, may produce the effect. Messrs. Beaunis, Berjon, Bernheim, Bourru, Burot, Charcot, Delboeuf, Dumontpallier, Focachon, Forel, Jendrassik, Kraft-Ebing, Liebault, Liegeois, Lipps, Mabille, and others have recently vouched for one or the other of these effects. Messrs. Delboeuf and Liegeois have annulled by suggestion, one the effects of a burn, the other of a blister. Delboeuf was led to his experiments after seeing a burn on the skin produced by suggestion, at the Salpetriere, by reasoning that if the idea of a pain could produce inflammation it must be because pain was itself an inflammatory irritant, and that the abolition of it from a real burn ought therefore to entail the absence of inflammation. He applied the actual cautery ( as well as well as vesicants ) to symmetrical places on the skin, affirming that no pain should be felt on the sides. The result was a dry scorch on that side, with ( as he assures me ) no after-mark, but on the other side a regular blister with suppuration and a subsequent scare. ""This explains the innocuity of certain assaults made on the subject during trance."" To test simulation, recourse is often had to sticking pins under their finger-nails or through their tongue [ body piercing craze-self mutalation addiction is what is being termed by counselors and psychological professionals ], to inhalations of strong ammonia, and the like. These irritations, when not felt by the subject, seem to leave no after-consequences. One is reminded of the reported non-inflammatory character of the wounds made on themselves by dervishes in their pious orgies. [ guess they were running amuck in his time period also, although on a smaller scale, and since the populace was smaller was known even then, which leads to our overwhelming epic siege of the present; see http://www.hypnotism.org for some of these chicaneries ] On the other hand, the reddenings and bleedings of the skin along certain lines or pressing objects thereupon, put the accounts handed down to us of the stigmata of the cross appearing on the hands, feet, sides, and forehead of certain Catholic mystics in a new light. [ all of the Catholic priests which have been subjected to pedaphile behavior over the years; see http://www.delphiassociates.com ( this is one of the sites I have named as having the Gestalt artwork deceptively hidden in the backgrounds sceneries for those observant enough to depict them consciously ) for some interesting reading; consider the direction-position our country has taken against its own people both privately and institutionally ]. As so often happens, a fact is denied until a welcome interpretation comes with it. Then it is admitted readily enough; and evidence judged quite insufficient to back a claim, so long as the Church had an interest in making it, proves to be quite sufficient for modern scientific enlightenment, the moment it appears that a reputed saint can thereby be classed as "a case of hystero-epilepsy." [ Ecclesiastes for the for the Ecclesiastians ]

There remains two other topics, viz., post-hypnotic effects of suggestion, and effects of suggestion in the waking state.

Post-hypnotic, or deferred, suggestions are such as are given to the patients during trance, to take effect after waking. They succeed with a certain number of patients even when the execution is named for a remote period--months or even a year, as in one case reported by M. Liegeois. [ see also where M. Jules Binet's patient raised her hand to her nose when he was in her presence after having not been for a year, he apparrently did not clean her slate prior to his leave. ] In this way one can make the patient feel pain, or be paralyzed, or be hungry or thirsty, or have an hallucination, positive or negative, or perform some fantastic action after emerging from his trance. The effect in question may be ordered to take place not immediately, but after an interval of time has elapsed, and the interval may be left to the subject to measure, or may be marked by a certain signal. The moment the signal occurs, or the time is run out, the subject, who until then seems in a perfectly normal waking condition, will experience the suggested effect. In many instances, whilst thus obedient to the suggestion, he seems to fall into the hypnotic condition again. " This is proved by the fact that the moment the hallucination or suggested performance is over he forgets it, denies all knowledge of it, and so forth; and by further fact that he is "suggestible" during "it's" , [ live choreographed psychodramas-linguistic fictions-hypothetical constructs of hypnosis at a distance; I am able to percieve many that have and are taking place everyday as a result of my having experiences with criminal hypnosis ], performance, that is, will recieve new hallucinations, etc., at command. A moment later and this suggestibility has disappeared. It cannot be said, however, that relapse into the trance is an abosolutely necessary condition for the post-hypnotic carrying out of commands,""for the subject may be neither suggestible or amnesic, and may struggle with all the strength of his will against the absurdity of this impulse which he feels rising in him, he knows not why."" In these cases, as in most cases, he forgets the circumstance of the impulse having been suggested to him in a previous trance;

[ "shrugg it off"_ _ _"_ _ _", continuation of verbalizations, and inability to retain numerically the ongoing information, I have found this to be an irritating event, as well as a conditioned sensation ( Pavlov-paired associates-stimulus-response ) for later use in manipulations of actions; See A. R. Luria, The Working Brain, An Introduction to Neurology(1973) ]; ""regards it as have arising within himself; and often improvises, as he yields to it, some more or less plausible or ingenious motive by which to justify it to the lookers-on.""

[ Again the verbal series arrangements, "its your excuses"I'll _ _ _"ur dum"u did it"u keep for get n it"its ur self"_ _ _"......... , "there are many ways to manipulate a person"("ther r min e wa's to ma nip u lat a per un"sun"look at the sun"(after-image effect upon sight, spots moving with eyes, and as the heartrate is being manipulated, excessively beating, causes the image to last for a longer period. I term these the photic drives, and in turn, is an additional forced stimulus to contend with in the constant stimuli repetitions and rotations thereof. The format is such that it amounts to operant conditioning chains as forced stimulation; for the people not 'hearing voices', is simply a complex variation of the interviening variables for purposes of confusing the issues as relates the larger perspective(s); plurals, always plurals. ]

{ Bugelsky, An Introduction to Psychology(1973)""The ability to predict behavior in any situation and to be content with predictions would not be a science of psychology or a science at all. It would be an elaborate calculation enterprise, and only a very complex computational and technological achievement if it were successful. If the system included the possibilty of not only predicting perfectly but also of controlling ( conditioning ) perfectly, it would be only that much more of a technological masterpiece. When something exists in an unobservable form we can only study 'its' effects. The only alternative is speculation or hypothesization. The humunculous becomes a "self," a soul, a mind, a thinker, decision maker, he dreams our dreams and makes our plans, makes up our minds. The humunculous is autonomus. When we fall asleep, the humunculous has free reign and sometimes does or says things "we" might not want to admit to others. When concepts are defined in terms of measurement or some statement of procedural routine, we have defined the concept "operationally." "Operational definitions" are highly regarded in science. When we have defined something operationally, we have spelled out a procedure for producing the event or phenomenon or object. The human being is a programmed machine analogous to a kind of computer which, given a certain input ( signals-instructions ), generates a given and predictable output ( behavior ). }

He acts, in short, with his usual sense of personal spontaneity and freedom; and the disbelievers in the freedom of the will will have naturally made much of these cases in their attempts to show it to be an illusion.

""All Is Vanity""

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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 20:16:11 EST From: Ecotoday@aol.com CC: econews@ecologynews.com Subject: MC:Did Williams' counselor activate suicide program as well as murder program?

Notice: This post contains information which may be enlightening or confrontational. If the latter, consider deleting. Thank you. _______ This opinion post by John Quinn of Newshawk raises a valuable perspective. re: Santana High. Query: Why might "Santana High" have been chosen for any mind control triggering Alfred Webre, Vancouver, BC

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Did Williams' counselor activate suicide program as well as murder program?

Now we know the TRUTH: that mere minutes before Charles Andrew Williams unleashed his murderous assault at Santana High last week, he went raging out of a session with an "anger management" counselor/facilitator, and soon after began shooting -- beginning in the bathroom right down the hall from the counseling room.

This was positively witnessed by another male student also in the counseling room at the time Williams left, and related by that student to his father who in turn told it to San Diego area reporter Ron Luck. The parent indicated that other people were also aware of the fact Williams had abruptly and angrily stormed out of the session right before the killing began, and was quite upset the matter hadn't been pursued with much greater fervor by law enforcement and the media.

And NOW we know THIS truth also: that Williams was very DEFINITELY about to commit suicide before he was apprehended and taken into custody after shooting a total of fifteen people.

We noted in a previous bulletin that INVARIABLY, subjects of mind control procedures who have been used in high-priority clandestine and often deadly operations of one sort or another subsequently have their previously-inculcated "suicide program" activated, so that no possible (inadvertent or other) testimony from the mind-controlled operative will ever see the light of day.

The question that now arises is: did Williams' "anger management" facilitator facilitate not ONLY the mass shooting enacted by Williams but ALSO the suicide program that Williams ALMOST put into motion? </XMP> >>

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Date: Thu, 15-Mar-2001 02:03:43 GMT From: James R. Rose <eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com> Subject: Re:MC:Did Williams' counselor.....

In my opinion he was already thoroughly saturated with algebraic repetitions and rotations of phrase-verbal expressions-operant chains toward the ends that were committed. The cresendoing effect of which is discussed in my entries can occur at any time over any significant or virtually any insignificant event by the "explosive will." See the entry on "Could This Be You" located inthe archives concerning a California man driving his car into a nursery grounds after several years of of the operant conditioning-hypnopaedia-hypnosis-artificially created experimental neurosis conditionings."its us"its us"we're laf n"u cant do nuth n about it-us"ur such a chump"ur b n made a fool of"ur go n to wind up go n off"u awta get a gun"kil some one"ur one"ur get n it"ur it"we're laf n"kil n u"its us"___"(identifier)ur the on er i est man"kil n"its ur on es t"ur dum"u did it"its ur self"no body go n to be leve u-ya" no one"kil n u-ya"its the on ly way to stop this"kil n"u keep for get n it-this".....

""All Is Vanity""

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Digest for mc@topica.com, issue 502

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Mind control ia post-traumatic-stress situations By west@sonic.net

Art Bell disinformation By Tweeket@webtv.net

RE: Art Bell disinformation By west@sonic.net

More Art Bell disinformation By Tweeket@webtv.net

MK-ULTRA returns? By west@sonic.net

RE: Mind control ia post-traumatic-stress situations By frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca

RE: Mind control ia post-traumatic-stress situations By west@sonic.net

Nick Begich, HAARP, /Eleanor White & Cheryl Welsh. By 1927@glasscity.net

Net Currents By frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca

Conditioned Sensation-Psychophysical By eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com

Paired Associates-Nonsense Sylla By eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com

scrambling? By wendy.best@dialog.com

RE: Nick Begich, HAARP, /Eleanor White & Cheryl Welsh. By west@sonic.net

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Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:36:25 -0800 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> Subject: Mind control ia post-traumatic-stress situations

An example of the deliberate use of post-traumatic-stress situations for mind control.

New York Times, March 5, 2001 U.S. Aids Conversion-Minded Quake Relief in El Salvador By DAVID GONZALEZ

GUADALUPE, El Salvador, March 3 - An American evangelical relief group that is using private donations and United States government money to help victims of two earthquakes has blurred the line between church and state as its volunteers preach, pray and seek converts among people desperate for help.

Residents of several villages said volunteers from Samaritan's Purse, which has received more than $200,000 from the United States Agency for International Development and is to receive a second similar amount, has held half-hour prayer meetings before showing them how to build temporary homes of metal and plastic provided by the American government.

According to interviews with numerous villagers here and elsewhere in this predominantly Roman Catholic country, volunteers of the Protestant group have distributed religious tracts and asked them to accept Jesus Christ as their savior.

"They said a lot, but the principal thing was God and that earthly things do not matter," said Óscar Romero, a villager putting finishing touches on his house....

That message is central to its relief work, according to the group's Web page, which quotes its president and chairman, Franklin Graham, son of the evangelist Billy Graham. The Web page notes that in one village where the group provided supplies, 150 Salvadorans converted after watching a movie about Jesus....

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Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:58:09 -0800 (PST) From: Tweeket@webtv.net (Cindy Moede) Subject: Art Bell disinformation

Anybody catch Art bell last night? The guest William Thomas, subject chemtrails- he said chemtrail residue contains toxic bacteria and fungi citing lab reports that are 100% conclusive - positively identifing the pathogens. The name of the lab was not mentioned. It reminded me of two old ladies Gossiping!! I used to enjoy Art Bell before I joined this list. Now I see it as a bunch of sensationalism geared toward sales of their survival products. You guys opened my eyes... thanks for that-- BUT YA RUINED ME!!! Now I cant even get a good scare going listening to Art Bell. (my favorite!)

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Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:18:35 -0800 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> Subject: RE: [MC] Art Bell disinformation

Follow the money: http://www.unitoday.net/dist/PgRoot.htm?id=willthomas Conspiracy sells!

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Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:30:11 -0800 (PST) From: Tweeket@webtv.net (Cindy Moede) Subject: More Art Bell disinformation

I almost forgot! They (Richard Thomas I think) also mentioned that Russia said they would be willing to use their weather control technology to create a cyclone to put out the fires in Libya (??or somewhere) the first one free and after that it will cost. I joke around about stuff like that "Honey, theres a tornado in the back yard !! Did you pay the Haarp bill ths month??"

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Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:11:41 -0800 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> Cc: <CloudRider@aol.com>, <KKasten@mednet.ucla.edu> Subject: MK-ULTRA returns?

LSD experimentation is back. They got smarter this time and are using subjects in Switzerland and Russia, safely out of the purview of U.S. human experimentation protocols and (in Russia) under the supervision of likely FSB (formerly KGB) psychiatrists like Krupitsky, who is using ketamine, likely the most powerful mind-control drug ever invented (http://mir.drugtext.org/maps/news-letters/v6n3/06319ket.shtml , http://www.freedomdomain.com/mindcontrol/mkultra01.html ).

Note funding by CIA cutout Laurence S. Rockefeller, purveyor of "alien" disinformation to cover mind control experiments. See:

http://www.visitations.com/mindnet/MN137.htm

"The mind control is central to the function of the disks. They came together after WW II, because Laurence Rockefeller and other national security wigs went to Germany to study the advanced technology at Penemunde, Himmler's redoubt and the source of the Japanese economic "miracle" - also the R&D center of the disks. Years later, Laurence headed up a UFO study group. Of course, they depended heavily on "aliens." Of course, Laurence today funds Scott-Jones, et.al."

and

http://www.towardfreedom.com/may98/messing.htm

"... the CIA was forced to abandon the MK-ULTRA project in the 60s. But the effort to manipulate minds and blame the victims didn't end; it simply moved from public institutions to cults and private foundations, facades less open to public scrutiny. As a result, the Human Ecology Fund has been replaced by groups such as the Human Potential Foundation in Falls Church, Virginia, founded by Sen. Claiborne Pell and lavishly funded by Laurence Rockefeller."

Also, do a search (or read Acid Dreams) for members of the advisory panel at http://www.heffter.org/ for some revealing connections. For example, Janiger:

http://victorian.fortunecity.com/daddio/202/mindctrl.html

"Many victims of the CIA-anchored experimentation have been left with multiple personalities induced at a young age, and it is certain that the CIA can trigger induced multiple personalities electronically from a remote source to commit any act on cue the ultimate Manchurian Candidate. Under Dr. West's tutelage at UCLA, parapsychology experiments of another sort were conducted by Kirlian aura researcher Thelma Moss, a writer for television and a human guinea-pig herself in LSD experiments conducted in 1957. Three years later, as a UCLA psychology student, she designed protocols for her own LSD experiments under the supervision of Dr. Oscar Janiger.

"The CIA, of course, could not be far away. Dr. Janiger's supplier of the drug was the legendary Captain Al Hubbard, the Johnny Appleseed of LSD. "Nothing of substance has been written about Al Hubbard," Janiger once said, "and probably nothing ever should."

I challenge list members to follow the breadcrumbs to the rest of the story ....

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/03/13/health/13DRUG.html

March 13, 2001 Scientists Test Hallucinogens for Mental Ills By SANDRA BLAKESLEE

Hallucinogenic drugs like LSD and peyote - derided as toys of the hippie generation - are increasingly drawing the interest of neurologists and psychiatrists who want to test the idea that they may be valuable tools in treating a range of mental disorders.

Although there are anecdotal reports that psychedelic drugs can help some people with mental illness, the idea has never been substantiated by mainstream psychiatry and remains highly controversial - some would say outlandish.

And even the researchers involved in the new work are not suggesting that people start medicating themselves with hallucinogens.

But researchers like Dr. David E. Nichols, a professor of pharmacology and medicinal chemistry at Purdue, believe the drugs' potential should be investigated.

For example, Dr. Nichols, an expert on hallucinogenic drugs, said there were reports that symptoms of obsessive compulsive disorder, like washing one's hands dozens of times a day, subside under the influence of psilocybin, a hallucinogen derived from mushrooms.

Dying patients given LSD have reported less pain and less fear, he said. Ayahuasca (a Brazilian plant extract) and peyote (derived from cactus) have reportedly helped alcoholics stay sober.

"We now know a lot about how they work in the brain, but we have not begun to investigate their potential for treating brain disorders," he said.

Dr. Nichols is the founder of the Heffter Research Institute, begun in 1993 and named for Arthur Heffter, a 19th-century chemist who was the first person to identify a hallucinogenic molecule, mescaline, which he extracted from peyote. Backed by private donors like Laurence S. Rockefeller and Bob Wallace, a Microsoft millionaire, the institute is financing clinical trials with LSD, psilocybin and other hallucinogens to treat phobias, depression, obsessive compulsive disorders and substance abuse, said James Thornton, its executive director.

Dr. Nichols said trials were under way or planned in Switzerland, Russia and the United States. Most of the work is being done overseas, he said.

Dr. Janet Woodcock, director of the Center for Drug Evaluation and Research at the Food and Drug Administration, said that any proposal to study the medical use of a hallucinogen must meet the same rigorous medical and scientific standards used to evaluate any other unapproved drug.

Furthermore, because hallucinogens are controlled substances, the investigator will need a license from the Drug Enforcement Agency to use such a substance in a clinical trial.

The D.E.A. classifies hallucinogens as drugs with no known medical value - purely "drugs of abuse." But if a valid medical use is found for hallucinogens, Dr. Woodcock said, the F.D.A. has safeguards to prevent the drugs from being diverted and used for unapproved purposes.

Separating a drug's beneficial effects from the harm it can cause is possible, said Dr. Alan Leshner, director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse. "Morphine works for pain, but it's horrendous when used in an addictive way," he said. "The same may or may not be true for hallucinogens. It's a mistake to confuse the two issues."

Much has changed in the half-century since LSD was first used by psychiatrists and then found widespread recreational use in the 1960's and 70's. Modern psychiatry has embraced drugs that affect the same brain molecules that are tweaked by hallucinogens. Tools for studying the brain's neurochemistry and response to drugs like LSD are far more advanced than they were in the 1960's and 70's.

Moreover, many of the people who hold political and scientific power today came of age during the 1960's, and they, unlike their parents, are not as afraid of hallucinogens, Dr. Nichols said.

By definition, hallucinogens are drugs that produce bizarre sights, sounds and feelings that appear to have no basis in reality. All work by changing levels of a brain chemical called serotonin, a substance involved in the modulation of many brain states, including depression, euphoria and appetite.

While antidepressants like Prozac work by making the neurotransmitter serotonin linger in the gaps between brain cells, hallucinogens have a different mechanism of action. They are what are called serotonin agonists - molecules that are very similar to the body's natural serotonin and, when taken in large doses, push the serotonin system into overdrive, making many brain systems more sensitive, Dr. Nichols said. "It's like turning up the volume on your radio. Suddenly you can hear very weak stations."

Thus, for example, hallucinogens amplify signals in the visual system to produce distortions of form and size. Instead of seeing one object, a person sees many copies of that object, he said. Perceived motion is similarly distorted. People begin to "hear" colors and "see" sounds or have out-of-body experiences. Some are so disoriented they experience a terrifying "bad trip."

But very little is known about how hallucinogens can be used therapeutically, Dr. Nichols said. "The first thing we want to know is, Are they safe?"

Dr. John H. Halpern, a psychiatrist at McLeans Hospital in Boston, is looking at this question in a study financed by the Heffter Research Institute and the National Institute on Drug Abuse. The study will involve members the Native American Church who, as part of their religious rituals, take peyote in a group setting but use no other drugs, not even alcohol.

Using a battery of tests for mental and social health, three groups of Native Americans - 70 church members, 70 alcoholics and 70 people from local communities in the Southwest - are being followed and compared for two to three years. The goal is to see whether peyote users are healthier or less healthy than the others.

Similar studies in Brazil showed that violent alcoholics who took hallucinogens in a ritualistic context often stopped drinking and had higher blood levels of serotonin, said Dr. Dennis McKenna, Heffter's director of ethnopharmacology.

Those changes may reflect an increase in their brain levels of serotonin, added Dr. McKenna, who is also a lecturer at the University of Minnesota Center for Spirituality and Healing, which seeks to integrate cultural and spiritual aspects of care with the biomedical aspects.

Dr. Francisco Moreno, a psychiatrist at the University of Arizona, and his colleagues there have permission from their hospital review board and expect final approval from the F.D.A. soon to carry out a study on obsessive compulsive disorder and psilocybin.

"We want to know if psilocybin can reduce symptoms, and if so, how much do you need to take?" Dr. Moreno said. Subjects will be closely supervised while under the influence of the drug and kept in the hospital overnight as a precaution.

At the University of Zurich in Switzerland, Dr. Franz Vollenweider has permission from his government to explore hallucinogens in treating depression and schizophrenia. "We are interested in the nature of the human experience, of the subjective me-ness or self that guides our behavior," Dr. Vollenweider said.

He wonders whether a medically facilitated experience in which the self temporarily "dissolves" might reduce the symptoms of a clinical depression.

With money from the Heffter Institute, Dr. Vollenweider and his colleagues are conducting a three-year study of 64 depressed patients treated with psilocybin.

In related research, Dr. Vollenweider plans to continue brain imaging studies of healthy volunteers who have taken psilocybin and LSD.

"We can tease out specific brain regions responsible for hallucinations and ego boundaries," he said in a telephone interview.

At Harvard, Dr. Harrison Pope, a professor of psychiatry, is planning to carry out a study to see whether LSD can alleviate fear and anxiety in dying patients. Studies in the 1960's suggested that the drug reduced pain and improved mood, he said, but they were not done under rigorous standards.

Eighty patients would be given an "active placebo," a drug that has physiological effects but is not hallucinogenic, or LSD under close supervision of a psychiatrist or trained mental health worker, Dr. Pope said.

And in St. Petersburg, Russia, Dr. Evgeny Krupitsky, chief of the research laboratory at the Leningrad Regional Center of Addictions, is administering ketamine, an anesthetic with strong hallucinogenic properties, to alcoholics and heroin addicts, as they are treated with talk therapy.

One day, advocates of this research say, their results will be valuable.

"If hallucinogens ever find their way into mainstream medicine - and I am convinced they will - they will never be handed out like Prozac," said Dr. George Greer, Heffter's medical director and a psychiatrist in private practice in Santa Fe, N.M. "People will need guidance. These are not drugs you administer every day."

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Date: Thu, 15-Mar-2001 20:52:19 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: RE: Mind control ia post-traumatic-stress situations

Wes Thomas wrote:

> > GUADALUPE, El Salvador, March 3 - An American evangelical relief group > that > is using private donations and United States government money to help > victims of two earthquakes has blurred the line between church and state > as > its volunteers preach, pray and seek converts among people desperate for > help. > > > "They said a lot, but the principal thing was God and that earthly > things do > not matter," said Óscar Romero, a villager putting finishing touches on > his > house.... > > That message is central to its relief work, according to the group's Web > page, which quotes its president and chairman, Franklin Graham, son of > the > evangelist Billy Graham. The Web page notes that in one village where > the > group provided supplies, 150 Salvadorans converted after watching a > movie > about Jesus.... >

Wes, the Church has been using this type of message to deal with tragedy stricken areas for hundreds and hundreds of years now. It minimizes legitament human suffering and then attempts to replace the suffering with truisms.

JV

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Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 13:14:36 -0800 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> Subject: RE: [MC] Mind control ia post-traumatic-stress situations

> Wes, the Church has been using this type of message to deal with > tragedy stricken areas for hundreds and hundreds of years now. > It minimizes legitament human suffering and then attempts to replace the > suffering with truisms.

... and acts as a powerful instrument of control over rebelious elements while opening new markets for U.S. goods and cultural domination. The CIA front in El Salvador is the Evangelical Church of El Salvador. See http://www.pir.org/gw/cam.txt

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Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:16:11 -0800 From: Pat Mougey <1927@glasscity.net> CC: 1927@glasscity.net Subject: Nick Begich, HAARP, /Eleanor White & Cheryl Welsh.

One thing that seems to be lost on targets and everyone else reading this list is that the pain and harassment to TI's had been present for years prior to the book on "HAARP".

The author, Nick Begich, obviously knew nothing about this, or he would not have appeared so surprised when he questioned if it was possible that the government was working on something that could read another person's mind...and not bother to classify it....

See this URL for excerpt on HAARP: http://www.glasscity.net/users/1927/haarp2.htm

For those of you who say 'such and such is incorrect' I ask that you contact Mr. Begich and explain why you believe he is wrong. I have no scientific background, and you do. It would be of benefit for the future, and would stop others from perhaps doubting the rest of what is in his books. He has the ability to contact many more people than you or I can, & my gut feeling says he'd be willing to learn about where his research took him down the wrong track. You do this with each other on the list. Let's work together in all areas.

In "Earth Rising", his second book, more papers and patents are put together that taken singly (by themselves) would not raise the interest of many people, but collectively give a huge impact. To me it says more of America's citizens should know about these devices, and be aware of what can happen down the road.

I for one am thankful to know about the devices and plans that incorporate the future for you and me. It gives me a base from which to fight back and say 'did you know?'..depending on the person I'm writing to at the moment.

He not only puts forth information on Mind Control in Chapter 7, but in Chapter 4 is asking questions such as 'how far can a democratic government go when evading the truth?' He then goes on to talk about lies and experimentation. In the same chapter he has cited/quoted the funding of MKUltra on pages 63 - 65 & 67... Some of this information I haven't seen on any web site.

Special Access Programs explanation on page 73... explains that these SAP's use measures that keep them from being included in NORMAL "classified' programs that largely shield them from independent oversight.

It's possible these same methods could be in use today by other agencies, incluidng the DOD as well as DOJ.

Let's not forget that special agreement between these two agencies that took effect l/l/95. Targets knew then they had been recipients of harassment from these kind of devices prior to that date. I cannot bring up the Mind Net Archive where this document is located on Mind Control Forum. Maybe someone else can...or perhaps it's on another site. http://www.ritualabuse.net/MCF/Res1.htm#Vericomm

I hope you don't discount everything in Begich's books because some disagree on a technical point about the HAARP project. Remember...most of the older targets know the pain and harassment had long been present before the book on "HAARP" was written and published. We, therefore had no problem believing "HAARP" was not the reason.

Cheryl Welsh and Eleanor White appeared on Jeff Rense's "Sightings", talk radio program on March 8th. It can be heard on the website.. http://www.sightings.com or: http://www.rense.com )

Pat Mougey

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Date: Fri, 16-Mar-2001 02:11:23 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: Net Currents

First good evidence of large net currents in my home besides a large number of appliances (especially motorized ones) burning out in a short time. Touch an element on my stove and the kitchen sink at the same time and you get a pulsed AC current flowing through you. The voltage measured between 6VAC and 32VAC. If I scope this current I won't be suprised if I find the same embedded RF that I picked up and recorded using the copper plate pickup. The stove is off, grounded and the ground strap at the fuse box has been re-enforced by myself to a copper water pipe less than 10 feet away from where the pipe enters the ground. I cannot find any source for this net current in my home as I believe it is being introduced into the neutral wire of my homes wiring system at a point outside the home. This would mean the the neutral wire of the entire homes wiring system is radiating a fairly large electro-magnetic field at all times, whether an appliance is being used or not. This field is what I pick up with the copper plate pickup method I have talked about in the past.

JV

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Date: Fri, 16-Mar-2001 03:13:56 GMT From: James R. Rose <eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com> Subject: Conditioned Sensation-Psychophysical

Ecclesiastes :: The Segregated Fields :::Bugelski, An Introduction to Psychology(1973) :: Leuba(1940) : The concept of the image as a conditioned sensation has been illustrated by Leuba (1940) in a series of experiments using hypnosis as a technique for isolating the presumed basic processes. A subject is hypnotized [ see Hypnotism by William James (1952)] and told that "he can only hear a buzzer and the hypnotist's voice," "that he can see nothing, feel nothing except on the back of one hand." The experimenter then sounds the buzzer and at the same time pricks the back of the subject's hand with a needle or a pencil point. The subject is then brought back to a normal condition and while he is otherwise occupied, the buzzer is sounded. Immediately the subject starts to rub the back of his hand which had been pricked earlier. When asked why he does this, he replies that he felt an itch.

[ basic format for controlling and manipulating based on hypnopaedia-hypnosis, can arrange instances by instruction both continuously and by post hypnotic containment field ]

If this experimental analogue is taken as a suggestion about how imagery is iniciated, we might presume that the occurrence of appropriate stimuli in the external world,

[ Gestalt deceptive artwork-stereo images within commercial products, televison (dating back into the 1950's ), and in my case around the city of Chandler on homes and buildings, have also located these inlayed deceptions in public offices ]

or internal reactions which might generate stimuli, might also give rise to neural activity which previously accompanied such stimuli and the subject will have an image. Such imaginal activity, i.e., the neural processes involved, can by a similar process be associated with other imaginal neural surrogates so that a whole chain of imagery can be initiated by some one stimulus. One image can lead to another, just as other sequential activities as in walking, etc., can occur.

According to Berkeley, it was the activity of the mind that generated physical objects as appearances in an 'apparent' physical world. Sounds , sights, odors, tastes, etc., were mental experiences which depended upon the mind alone and out of which we constructed alleged items in an alleged external world. It is hypothetically correct, that if we could iniciate the same neural activity in the optic nerve, that follows stimulation from some source, say the "reflected light" from a "particular person or painting," we would then ""see"" that painting or person without the actual presence of the external stimuli.

[ This applies to all of the senses as depicted above. "Reconstruction" thereof, as a paired associate procedure, (Leuba,1940), or a vector, (Kohler,1944), for those smelling, hearing, seeing, feeling, as previous experience of a sensation. Repetative tunes is what refer when use the incestant repetition of a song. ( and these are coinciding with the verbal expressions series arrangements-sequences-conditionings ) A one liner was what termed the "echolia" instruction. As have stated many times, the field is as vast as the imagination for the manipulation of an individual, a family, or a group of persons in a given area. ]

To a degree we are always doing this with all of our senses, more effectively with some than others. The behavior involved when people report seeing or hearing, or otherwise experiencing objects in their absence, is called "imagery." At one time psychologists made a great deal of fuss about imagery. It was considered by Wundt one of the three basic psychic processes, an element of mental activity. Galton (1883) studied individual differences in imagery in a celebrated introduction of the questionnaire technique in psychology. He asked several hundred friends to imagine their breakfast table and describe carefully all their reactions as they called it up in their fancy. Other psychologists wondered if thinking went on through the process of imagery and in some cases decided that thinking could go on in the absense of any image content. They became known as "imageless thought" school. When Watson launched his program of behavioristic psychology he dismissed images from psychology as mystical hangovers from an unscientific day.

[ Appropriate for a controling faction of knowledgible person's intending to utilize the facts as a foundation for manipulating the masses with the Gestalt type of artwork coinciding to William James' Laws of Contrast, 1947 and 1952, respectfully. See entries on television, computer, paintings, lithographs, environmental and behavioral engineering. B. F. Skinner, Walden's Pond (1938) ]

Watson's debonair dismissal of the image by the simple process of denial disturbed many pschologists who could not so easily dismiss their own images. For many years an uneasy atmosphere prevailed in relation to talking about images in psychology. A strictly behavioristic view denied the possibility of observing such private experiences. There was some concession to an undeniable fact in connection with "so called "afterimages" (if you look persistently at some patch of color for about thirty seconds and then look at a neutral surface you will ""see"" an apparent color on this surface which will be the color complement of the original, e.g., if the original was red, the aftereffect will be bluegreen ). ðFüàFü

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Date: Fri, 16-Mar-2001 03:21:45 GMT From: James R. Rose <eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com> Subject: Paired Associates-Nonsense Sylla

Ecclesiastes :: The Segregated Fields ::: Bugelski, An Introduction to Psychology(1973) : Paired Assoiciates-Nonsense Syllables ::cRoessler and Brogden (1943) :: Many kinds of responses are involved in thinking besides those of language. These may include such response patterns as movements of the eyes from side to side or upside down when we "think" of positions of objects. If you watch someone's eyes closely and ask him to think about some geographical location which the person has never visited and only knows through a map, he is likely to show an eye movement corresponding to a search of a map, e.g., children in the eastern part of the United States will move their eyes leftward when asked to think about California. Thinking of an airplane may be accompanied by actual eye movements or tendencies to move the eyes up. Thinking about ice-cold water may be accompanied by a tightening of the skin, hair raising and "gooseflesh" if the thinking is rather seriously done. [ Hypnopaedia leading to hypnosis control, television to produce sensation and familiarity with unknown stimuluses as a means to further progress the manipulations, Gestalt deceptive stereo images in backgrounds of sceneries of artworks ]

On the other hand, a person who has no familiarity with ice cold or ice of any kind "can not think about it except on a verbal level." In laboratory experiments psychologists "have been able to condition the constriction of blood vessels ( a characteristic reaction of plunging the arm into cold water ) to various external cues and to the self-stimulation produced by thinking of a particular 'nonsense syllable' ( Roessler and Brogden, 1943)." In such experiments the subject is instructed to say a particular syllable out loud and some means of constricting the blood vessels is applied --it could be electric shock or cold water. After pairing these events, the "spoken sound" is enough to illicit the vasoconstriction. Later on the subject is merely "told to say the syllable the syllable to himself ," to " think " it and the vasoconstriction occurs just as before. [ See Hypnopaedia by Aldous Huxley(1958); and Hypnotism by William James(1952); in the archives ]

""All Is Vanity""

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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 08:39:23 +0000 From: "Wendy Best" <wendy.best@dialog.com> Subject: scrambling?

I'm not knocking anyone's efforts in trying to find the source of signals and what the signals sound like, but is anyone working on how to scramble the signals?

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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:54:44 -0800 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> Subject: RE: [MC] Nick Begich, HAARP, /Eleanor White & Cheryl Welsh.

1927@glasscity.net> said:

> See this URL for excerpt on HAARP: > http://www.glasscity.net/users/1927/haarp2.htm

> For those of you who say 'such and such is incorrect' I ask that > you contact Mr. Begich and explain why you believe he is wrong.

That would require Begich to first learn basic physics and electronics, as is evident from the above URL, along with basic journalism, which requires documented statements by experts instead of his opinions. He fails to understand elementary concepts of antenna radiation and RF (the effects described in the Air Force Radio Frequency Dosimetry Handbook are not relevant to HAARP, which radiates at HF frequencies; nonlethal weapons require direct microwave transmission, which HAARP antennas are not capable of). His statements about Russian computer viruses for mind control are likewise nonsense, as I've pointed out.

> for the future, and would stop others from perhaps doubting the > rest of what is in his books.

Others SHOULD doubt what is in his books, which is are not grounded in science. For example, his understanding of "Tesla technology" is also distorted:

"The assumed notion that the project known as HAARP (High-Frequency Active Auroral Research Project) is descended from Tesla's work, is something of an absurdity with reference to Tesla's previous affirmation. Since the HAARP Project's exclusive purpose relies on the existence and function of the ionosphere, and has nothing to do with the grounded circuits of Tesla - it is clearly NOT Tesla technology. This really should have been quite obvious to any researcher or author if they had simply read any of Tesla's work concerning his wireless - even without the bold statements of this 1919 article, but, alas, due the popularity of Tesla, and the recently published books and videos about HAARP, this bogus association between Tesla and HAARP has become "matter of fact" to the misled and uninformed." (http://www.borderlands.com/newstuff/research/teslahaa.htm )

> incorporate the future for you and me. It gives me a base

No, it provides no credible base. You should seek writings by persons grounded in science instead of a political educational background.

> has cited/quoted the funding of MKUltra on pages 63 - 65 & 67... > Some of this information I haven't seen on any web site.

We should check that out to see if it's valid.

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Date: Fri, 16-Mar-2001 10:21:16 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: RE: scrambling?

Wendy Best wrote: > I'm not knocking anyone's efforts in trying to find the source of > signals and > what the signals sound like, but is anyone working on how to scramble > the signals? > > --

Electro-Magnetic fields should function quite well to distort and or de-focus directed Electro-Magnetic fields including microwave. A low frequency electro-magnetic field will distort and de-focus just about any higher frequencies. eg: Just try keeping a strong 60Hz hum out of higher frequency circuitry especially if the circuitry is incorporating any amplification and the 60Hz waveform is localized and powerful. It will distort TV's and Computer monitors AM "and even FM if it is strong enough" it will be induced into telephones and wiring as well as de-magnetize just about anything in close proximity. Good sized field coils (200 -300 turns)being driven at lower frequencies, let's say 30 -60Hz at let's say 100 - 200 watts of power output or more.

JV

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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:20:54 -0000 From: "Maureen Norman" <m.a.norman@ntlworld.com> Subject: Re: [MC] Net Currents

John: Is there anything you can suggest to get the electricity out of the air, that's not expensive to buy, and would the ioniser on my electric air filter help?

This past week's been pretty bad and I'm filled with electric static, and feel so tired all the time along with suffering the deeper adverse physical effects of this.

I'm currently wearing a a home made earthing device I made, which is a copper scrub pad with its centre taken out which I wear around my wrist. Attached to this is a electric flex with the wires attached to the copper pad at the top and with the wires sticking out of the end attached to a metal paper clip at the other end. That is heavy enough to remain on the floor.

We live in worse conditions than animals, and it's disgusting.

I'd like to see some of the people in the powers that be who ignore our situation live like this for an enforced year.. See how these jumped up, smooth talking 'jack boots' abominations like it.

What we suffer is evil.

Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> To: <mc@topica.com> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 2:11 AM Subject: [MC] Net Currents

> First good evidence of large net currents in my home besides a large > number of appliances (especially motorized ones) burning out in a short > time. > Touch an element on my stove and the kitchen sink at the same time and > you get a pulsed AC current flowing through you. The voltage measured > between 6VAC and 32VAC. If I scope this current I won't be suprised if I > find the same embedded RF that I picked up and recorded using the copper > plate pickup. > The stove is off, grounded and the ground strap at the fuse box has > been re-enforced by myself to a copper water pipe less than 10 feet away > from where the pipe enters the ground. I cannot find any source for this > net current in my home as I believe it is being introduced into the > neutral wire of my homes wiring system at a point outside the home. This > would mean the the neutral wire of the entire homes wiring system is > radiating a fairly large electro-magnetic field > at all times, whether an appliance is being used or not. This field is > what I pick up with the copper plate pickup method I have talked about > in the past. > > JV

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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 02:23:46 -0800 From: Steve Wingate <stevew77@pacbell.net> Subject: Magnetometer Chain

This is a comparison of data from magnetometers located at several different locations for the last 24 hours, and past data can be accessed continuously. Locations include Gacona, Alaska, the infamous home of HAARP. (I was just dreaming about this a few nights ago. :)

http://137.229.36.30/cgi-bin/magnetometer/magchain.cgi

Steve

ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com

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Date: Fri, 16-Mar-2001 10:36:42 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: RE: Nick Begich, HAARP, /Eleanor White & Cheryl Welsh.

Wes Thomas wrote: > 1927@glasscity.net> said: > > > See this URL for excerpt on HAARP: > > http://www.glasscity.net/users/1927/haarp2.htm > > > For those of you who say 'such and such is incorrect' I ask that > > you contact Mr. Begich and explain why you believe he is wrong. > > That would require Begich to first learn basic physics and > electronics, as is evident from the above URL, along with basic > journalism, which requires documented statements by experts instead of > his opinions. He fails to understand elementary concepts of antenna > radiation and RF (the effects described in the Air Force Radio Frequency

I don't want to discourage anyone from using their connections to further the plight of electronic harassment victims. Even though my background is more of a technical nature, I do not discount the power of politics. I would also like to add that my first roasting with this equipment began in the mid 70's. They were able to do the lucid dream and V2S stuff back then. The only thing that has changed is that they have added a few things since then.

JV

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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:52:48 -0000 From: "Maureen Norman" <m.a.norman@ntlworld.com> Subject: Re: [MC] scrambling?

Please, please let me know if you find an easy way to stop or scramble these.

Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: Wendy Best <wendy.best@dialog.com> To: <mc@topica.com> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 8:43 AM Subject: [MC] scrambling? > > I'm not knocking anyone's efforts in trying to find the source of > signals and > what the signals sound like, but is anyone working on how to scramble > the signals? > > -- > This message (plus any attachments) is confidential and may be subject > to lawyer-client privilege. > Use without permission is strictly prohibited. > >

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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 07:03:08 EST From: Zilson@aol.com Subject: Re: [MC] scrambling?

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In a message dated 3/16/01 12:43:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, wendy.best@dialog.com writes:

> but is anyone working on how to scramble > the signals? >

Wendy I am certain your intentions are positive. But. It is not quite as simple as 'scrambling signals' First there are different techniques being used in many cases on 'one person.' An influence source could come in on a telephone line. Perhaps an old burglar alarm phone that has been modified in some manner. It could be something as simple as an extension has been run into your home. In my attic most of the phone lines of the neighborhood have wires. This was verified for me by a Verizon' tech who called the setup (in my attic- crawlspace between roof and ceiling) a mess. There could be a 900MHZ system with direct line of sight control in your home. And we haven't got to what is called the 'traditional' surveillance frequencies.(traaditional for a novice's(mine) perception)

The speakers could be anywhere, but in many cases traditional ones are not necessary. Your floor or a wall could be used easily as a crude speaker, especially if the only purpose is to terrorize a person.

If other things like your body are used as a speaker: You (the speaker) from my frame of reference don't consciously hear it (with your ears)

The psycho-acoustics of this circumstance escapes me. But perhaps another, with time and experience in this area could investigate they whys and how's of this phenom.

None of this addresses signals used to harm which was JV;s frame of reference.

Scrambling will not work in some of the cases outlined above

STOP HATE CRIME AGAINST THE MENTALLY ILL

STOP HATE CRIME AGAINST THE DEPRESSED ELDERLY OFTEN CALLED EUTHANASIA

STOP AMERICA'S THIRTY YEAR RELIGIOUS WAR

JZ ------------------------------

Date: Fri, 16-Mar-2001 16:09:05 GMT From: <m.a.norman@ntlworld.com> Subject: Media item

The MP on the attached news item lives in Leicester, where the head of my county council is based. It's Also the home county of my own Labour MP who has done absolutely nothing to ease the tortuous conditions under which I live in my own home through 'neighbours'. Even though he's been and seen this for himself.

A couple of weeks after visiting me he stood up in the house of Commons and spoke about his decision to 'keep keep silent' about a matter. His 'speech' was published in the local media news. .

In fact it was shortly after his visit that the high pitched frequency sounds began.

Please read my account of how I began to be tortured in my own home after an arms dealer took over the business where I worked in 1990. The events leading up to my working there stink to high heaven too. Which this government are fully aware of as it was all documented and sent to the European Court of Human Rights.

This past week the frequency waves have been particularly bad and there has been no let up at all.

LETTERS ADD TO PRESSURE ON VAZ The reputation of the foreign office minister, Keith Vaz, is expected to suffer a new blow today with the detailed publication of 20 letters between him, his solicitors and Elizabeth Filkin, the parliamentary standards watchdog, showing how the embattled minister prevaricated and refused to answer questions about his affairs. http://www.guardian.co.uk/Distribution/Redirect_Artifact/0,4678,0-457536,00.html

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Date: Fri, 16-Mar-2001 16:19:37 GMT From: <m.a.norman@ntlworld.com> Subject: RE: Media item

It's amazing too, that my ordeal with high pitched frequency sounds began around 8 months ago, just afterthe Labour MP came to my home.

The conditions I've lived under since that time have been terrible with the RF and EM. In fact if you look back on my postings you will see when this began. About 8 months ago.

Maureen

m.a.norman@ntlworld.com wrote: > The MP on the attached news item lives in Leicester, > where the head of my county council is based. It's > Also the home county of my own Labour MP who has > done absolutely nothing to ease the tortuous conditions > under which I live in my own home through 'neighbours'. > Even though he's been and seen this for himself. > > A couple of weeks after visiting me he stood up in > the house of Commons and spoke about his decision > to 'keep keep silent' about a matter. His 'speech' > was published in the local media news. . > > In fact it was shortly after his visit that the high pitched > frequency sounds began. > > Please read my account of how I began to be tortured in > my own home after an arms dealer took over the business > where I worked in 1990. The events leading up to my > working there stink to high heaven too. Which this > government are fully aware of as it was all documented and > sent to the European Court of Human Rights. > > This past week the frequency waves have been particularly > bad and there has been no let up at all. > > LETTERS ADD TO PRESSURE ON VAZ > The reputation of the foreign office minister, Keith Vaz, > is expected to suffer a new blow today with the detailed > publication of 20 letters between him, his solicitors and > Elizabeth Filkin, the parliamentary standards watchdog, > showing how the embattled minister prevaricated and > refused to answer questions about his affairs. > http://www.guardian.co.uk/Distribution/Redirect_Artifact/0,4678,0-457536,00.html >

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Date: Fri, 16-Mar-2001 20:14:26 GMT From: Martin F. Abernathy <abemarf@aol.com> Subject: 1988 California Ritual Abuse Case

These are excerpts taken from the transcripts and Trial Brief of Daryl Ball, Sr. Case #14750-C, (Santa Rosa) followed by a news article describing the plea-bargain of both Charlotte Thrailkill and Daryl Ball - the only two people who were criminally charged with these sex crimes which often took place in a ritual context. The children named other people as being present who hurt them in the context of the "Devil Worship Club."

The Criminal Investigative Division interviewed some of these same children in their "titling" and dismissal action against Aquino. I viewed some of these tapes personally, and watched some children ID Aquino out of the CID visual and voice line-up.

The children spoke of adults chanting, while they or others were hurt, and gave graphic descriptions of killings (some of the victims, children) being filmed, and described various methods used to dispose of bodies.

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...(opening DA Statement) "Defendant Daryl Ball, Sr. and co-defendant Charlotte Thrailkill have been charged by way of felony information with 34 counts of child sexual abuse. A preliminary hearing began in August 1987, and lasted almost a month. Daryl Ball had an earlier case, 14668-c which was consolidated into the later charges. This case is described as a multivictim/multiperpetrator sexual abuse case. Such cases have often involved the active participation of women, multiple victims young in age, sexual penetration, and allegations of ritual abuse. These cases are distinguished from the incest model by the extreme terror shown by the victims. See Sexual Abuse in Day Care: A National Study, Final Report March 1988, David Finkelhor, Ph. D...."

"Child witnesses Kid #1, kid #2, Kid#3, Kid #4 , Kid #5, and Kid #6 were brought forward to testify as well as parents of some of the children and police agencies that were instrumental in the investigation. Their testimony has painted a graphic scenario of child sexual assault."

"...On August 18th, child #1 returned to testify. He affirmed his estimate that Thailkill copulated him 50 times (16:8-10). He testified to having nightmares about dragons and people killing other people (74:9-24)."

.."kid #1 witnessed Thrailkill copulating kid #2, kids #3, kids #4, kids #5. Kid #1 described being tied up and hung by the feet (123:1-28) and stated (named five other kids) were also tied up. He described Ball copulating kid #2 and Ball inserting a dildo into her (126: 20-28) Thailkill also used the spike dildo in Kid #2's rectum and copulated her daughter and kid #3. Kid #1 was also abused on a night when defendants had taken him trick or treating (132, 133, 134)."

..(Testimony of one of the childen)

Q. Did he say what would happen if you told your mom? A. Yeah Q. What did he say would happen if you told your mom about Tina's hickey? A. He'll kill her and cut her heart out. Q. He'd kill her and cut her heart out? A. And make me eat it. Q. And make you eat it? A. Yeah. Q Did he say anything about your little brother? A. Yeah

..."(kid) explained how he saw hypodermic needles at defendant's house and stated Thrailkill had injected him with the needle in the arm and some blood came out. Defendant Ball was present as well..".

"..(kid #1) described a game called 'neener, neener, neener, you can't catch my weiner' which was played with defendant Ball while he was nude. (156:23-28). The person who won the game was shot by a squirt gun filled with urine.(157:17-27). He described how Tony Carpino had threatened to 'chop his throat off'.(158:6-20) He also described being in a small swimming pool with other kids, all nude who were threatened to not tell their parents. (161:1-28, 162:1-9)"

"...he told of Thrailkill putting a 'rocket ship' in his bottom (170:10-24) He returned to testify Sept. 1, 1987, and described the defendants fighting over who would get to put the dildo in the children (RT (/1) 17: 80 28, 18: 1-10)"

"....(kid #2) also testified on Sept. 1, 1987. He testified that Ball touched his front private and it hurt (80:7-28) and Ball threatened to kill his mother (82:8-20). Ball also threatened him with a knife (84:21-28) and cut him with it."

"... He went on to relate incidents where the children were tied up with rope (117; 18-28, 118:1-28. 119: 1-18) He was made to touch his front private to child #3 privates by defendants (120:17-25) He described being tied up and hung by the feet (123:1-28) and stated that (kid#1), (kid#3), (kid#4), (kid#5), and (kid#6) were tied up.

He described Ball copulating (kid #4) (126:14-19) and Ball inserting a dildo into her (126;20-28), 127: 1-11). Thrailkill also used the spike dildo in (kid#1) rectum, and copulated her daughter and (kid#3)."

"..He also told of Thrailkill giving him a bath, holding him underwater for long periods of time and then copulating him (139;20-28), (140:1-19)" ". .. Ball threatened to cut (kid) mother's heart out if he told anyone and he would make him eat it. (145:8-10) He also told of Thrailkill holding his head under water in a swimminig pool, and then threatening to kill his mom if he told (147:12-28:148:1-15)

He further described seeing Ball use a variety of dildoes on the other children (192-196) He identified the rope he had been tied up with as being yellow rope (R.T. (9/3 104:12-28)"

"Thrailkill also forced him to undergo a a forcible bath where he said that the pounding of the water would give him such a headache, and that then she orally copulated him as he's kicking her to get her away".

"...(Kid#1) talked about "super duper day" when he, his brother, (named 6 kids) went to the office of the apartment manager. There, all the kids were undressed and touched by defendants, Steve Ruggles, Tory, Terry, Robin and Pappy. (Kid#1) saw the other children sodomized with dildoes, and were tied up (pgs. 96-105), 155-169)

"..(another kid). She saw Ball copulate, and use his finger and the red dildo on (kid#2) (198:4-25)...she described being injected with a needle behind her knee and at the inner aspect of her arm.. She was violated with the red dildo three times and the blue dildo twice

"...She also related testimony about "super, duper child molest day" which took place in the apartment manager's office. She identified many adults who were present and described a banner that read "Super Duper Child Molesting Day". She explained how a video was made of the sexual activity, and the kids watched it afterwards" (62:10-27;pgs 101-115)

"She also told of being in the swimming pool with other children, all nude, while the adults took photographs (25:1-25). She told about the tattoo's she had seen on Thrailkill (44" 13-28).

She told of a Halloween trip where kid #3 and #4 were left at a house, and picked up later (52:7-28; 53:1-28; 54:1-28;). There, she was present when they were told to strip, and the kids later shared their candy so it would appear that (another kid) had been trick or treating also."

"Kid #1 said he had been sodomized and copulated more than ten times each (137: 21-26), and described kid #3 crying when defendant Ball had attempted intercourse with her (138: 4-16). Kid #1 saw Mike Dugan touch Kid #2's butt (138:24-26). He also told of Thrailkill giving him a bath, holding him underwater for long periods of time and then copulating him (139:20-28). He saw Kid #3 get kicked and punched around, saw Ball copulate Kid #3 and Thrailkill use the spiked dildoe on kid #3 (43:1-28). Ball threatened to cut kid #1's mother's heart out if he told about Kid #2's hickey (145: 1-6), and he would make Kid #1 eat it."

Prosecutor: Did your real dad, Daryl, ever squeeze your dookie-doo real hard? (kid): yes Pros: and did it hurt? kid: yes Pros: what would he say when you would say it hurt? kid: He said..next time you lay in bed and not, lay still. You go to sleep."

"This is by no means a complete analysis of all the testimony, but should give the Court a sufficient overview of the matter to grasp the horror of the allegations. Unfortunately, no amount of these excerpts will ever show this court the terror, guilt and anxiety that these young victims suffered at the time of the acts or during their testimony."

.."Under 421(a) (6), the Defendant threatened witnesses or prevented them from testifying. These children were told not to tell their parents". "The crime involved multiple victims. Many of the times when these acts occured, the children described other children being there and other children being subjected to things at the same time."

".. When Counsel, Ms. Dubois, was describing the "Orgy Weekend" Dildo, if the court was noticing, right behind her, her client was laughing, they were laughing.."

"What happens in a case of this kind, what happens in multiple defendant, multiple victim cases, it that the parents take on this tremendous guilt because they say, "How could anything so horrible have happened to my children and I not have known?" And there is no way that this court can absolve them of this guilt. But the reason they're able to do that is because of the threats. If you tell them, "I'll kill your monny", "You'll have to eat your mommy's heart", "I will kill your baby brother"--little boys eight years old are proud of the fact they protect their baby brothers."

"I have been able to get little children through eight of those trials before, but not a trial like this. Not a trial where we're going to do two trials back to back and the children for those--such as Mr. Penn, who has been affected; such as my victim/witness person, who is now out on permanent disability and, likely, as a result of this case; my law clerk, who had to read the transcript and quit the DA's office, I am sure in part, because he had to read the transcript."

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Child sexual abuse case ends with prison terms Fear victims may never recover

The Press Democrat, Wednesday, Sept 21, 1988 by James E. Reid

A case that at one time involved more than 50 counts of child sexual abuse reached a conclusion of sorts Monday when a Santa Rosa couple was sentenced to prison for assaults on six children in a Santa Rosa neighborhood.

But while the legal wrangling in the case ended after 18 months, the impact on the victims may never end, one court official said. In an arrangement designed to spare the children the ordeal of testifying, Daryl T. Ball and Charlotte Thrailkill pleaded no contest to a total of nine counts involving lewd and lascivious conduct with the young victims.

The majority of the allegations against Ball and Thrailkill, involving at one time up to 52 counts of sexual molestation involving children ages 5 through 8, were to be dismissed as part of the plea bargaining. Ball pleaded no contest to two counts of forcible lewd and lascivious conduct and two counts of lewd and lascivious conduct upon children without the use of force.

Judge Raymond Giordano sentenced him to 24 years in prison. Thrailkill, who married Ball while both were in jail five days before pleading no contest to one count of forcible lewd and lascivious conduct with a child and four counts of the same conduct without force, was given a 14-year prison term.

While many convicts in California now are serving only about half of their terms bfore being released, Deputy District Attorney Donna Ryan said she hopes Ball and Thrailkill will do substantially more than half their time. Parole officials, she said, are taking a harder look at sex offenders before agreeing to their release from prison.

Judge Giordano was also required to cut more than two years off the couples's sentence. Ball received credit for 787 days on his prison sentence, which includes 525 days in custody since his arrest Apri1 last year and 262 days credit for good behavior in jail. Under a similar formula, the judge cut 807 days off Thrailkill's prison sentence.

Defense attorneys quoted the Bible and Victor Hugo in asking the judge for leninency on behalf of their clients, but the grandmother of one of the young girls molested by the two defendants cited a passage from Socrates in rebuttal.

"Children are your riches and upon their turning out well or ill will depend on the whole order of their father's house," she advised the court."That's what this is all about isn't it? Or it should be," she said later.

The events that led to Monday's sentencing involve a lengthy history of incest and sexual aberration, according to court records. Some therapists who counseled Thrailkill in jail suggest she may be innocent of the charges but chose not to contest the allegations because of her mental and physical limitations. They noted her fundamentally passive and emotional nature that apparently led to her dependence on Ball.

Officials who interviewed and examined the children said there was no question they had been the victims of repeated and severe sexual assault.

Deputy Probation Officer James Penn, who did pre-sentencing evaluations of both Ball and Thrailkill for the court, said the children have become involved in psychological treatment, but the damage may be irreparable.

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MARtin F. ABErnathy

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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 16:44:11 -0800 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> Subject: Effects of infrasound from trains on people

Forwarded from:

Paul Reichle [reichle.3@osu.edu] Taoshum-l list Fri 3/16/2001 11:44 AM

Dear Editor,

A standing wave. Images may come to mind- a family member stands to wave good-bye... gurgling white water in a Colorado creek hits an incline and creates a stationery kayakers dream... Jeff Spicone orders some pizza "on our time," and jeeps to Malibu to catch "some tasty waves." Unfortunately none of these personifies the disconcerting effect that frequents most homes in Columbus. Distinguished Professor of Comparative Literature at Brown University, Arnold L. Weinstein comments in his taped course The Soul and the City: Art, Literature, and Urban Life, "City dwellers are connected by waves of sound." In the l990's, excluding the most obvious airplane and highway noise, an inaudible antagonist has proliferated. In the early l990's both GE and EMD (Electro Motive Division of General Motors) began experimenting with and manufacturing locomotives with AC powered traction motors. From an economic viewpoint it made sense. There are no brushes or commutators to wear out in AC motors, and a computer controlled thrysistor maintains tractive effort to reduce wheel slip and motor burn out. Locomotive efficiency is increased and maintenance reduced propelling the rail industry back into the Fortune 500 from near bankruptcy in the l980's. In l982 there must have been a reason why politicians lobbied to dismantle and stop funding the federal Office of Noise Abatement under Ronald Reagan. Trains are noisy, but at least you know what it is when you hear it...or do you? The thrysistor is a software controlled electronic device that varies the frequency and voltage of AC. On diesel/electric trains, a turbo-charged diesel engine drives an alternator that produces alternating current. A rectifier converts it to DC where it is controlled by a computer, whence an inverter changes it back to AC to power the traction motors. When the traction motors are producing electricity by the inertia of the moving train, the electricity is fed back to a grid to dissipate the energy. This is called dynamic braking. All in all controlling electricity, not diesel power, moves the train. A few years ago the Evening News did a story on the elusive Taos Hum. Residents were hearing an annoying hum twenty-four hours a day. No one seemed to know the source. In Fayetteville and Columbus I was hearing a hum that fit the description of the Taos Hum. The hum is produced by low voltage AC drives controlled by the thrysistor. Near Taos, there is a Molybdenum mine in Questo a few miles away. There is a long conveyor belt that moves the metal from the mine to the refinery. There are also two mines near Littleton, Colorado. The Union Pacific railroad was the first to experiment with AC powered locos, mostly for logging work. There is also a thrysistor in the Bonneville Power Administrations power grid in the Pacific Northwest. What does this have to do with a standing wave? Seattle and Portland, the birthplace of Grunge is in the Pacific Northwest. Sudden Infant Death Syndrome, Attention Deficit Disorder, Irritable Bowel Syndrome, Panic Disorder, and Sleep Paralysis have all escalated in the last decade. Rockers got dark, rappers got violent, and teenagers began shooting at their classmates. The medical establishment has no physiological cause for any of these. What could be causing this downward trend in mental health in the last decade? The answer is infrasound. Vladimir Gavreau, a French Scientist, experimented with the effects of very low frequency sound, inaudible sound waves below 20 Hertz. Many speculated he was working on a non-lethal weapon for the military. Officials soon realized it was difficult to control the dispersion of omni-directional infrasound and abandoned it. It killed the operator as well as the enemy. Infrasound travels faster through water and solids and does not dissipate. Its physical and psychological effects are varied but the overt characteristic is an intense feeling of oppression. Fatigue, blurred vision, irritability, headache, nausea, difficulty concentrating, tingling skin, and aching limbs are all effects of infrasound. Low frequency electro-magnetic waves have similar effects. David S. Walonick did a study of the effects of 6-10 Hz ELF on brain waves. Brain electrical activity in the theta and alpha (the creative, insightful and meditative states) centers around 6-8 Hz. Most of our awake thinking is in the Beta range, above 12 Hz. Brain wave frequency ranges can be associated with mood or thought patterns. He determined the brain "locks onto" artificial electro-magnetic energy. It attempts to fight the invasion, then locks onto the electric energy. Likewise it can work at the cellular level causing disease. AC drives produce both. As a composer the AC traction motor locomotive as invaded nearly every aspect of my life. NASA has documented 17 Hz infrasound produces extreme blurring of vision. After two cornea transplants, even with 20/20 vision with glasses my eyes produce vision akin to the Comedy Channel's Dr. Katz show. Images pulsate almost 24 hours a day. With 48 inch cooling fans for the power inverters, I either have high volume white noise, infrasound, or audible hum in my home most of the day. Tinnitus accompanies all of this. Likewise I experience all the physical and psychological symptoms associated with EMF radiation and infrasound. I don't think my brain has operated in the theta stage since I moved to Columbus. I wake up with a backache from my mattress resonating. I am irritable, nervous, and can't concentrate. I have no privacy because my home is connected to all the other city dwellers by a huge tsunami-like standing wave. When I recorded recently in Nashville in a professional studio, the electro-magnetic waves in the air produced by AC powered locomotives destroyed five ADAT digital recorders. They disturb television reception and produce an audible buzz in my stereo system. On the phone voices have a ghostly echo. Electro-magnetic waves manifest themselves on preexisting wires carrying current. The engineers in Nashville didn't know what was causing it. They grounded equipment and put down insulating material but to no avail. What can you do when it is in the air? All you have to do is listen for the rushing white noise outside. For GE and GM, there is one issue that is substantial. If my right to privacy is being revoked by two corporations, that makes their practices unconstitutional. If they knowingly designed and manufactured a device that produces infrasound and the effects are documented, then they are negligent. Because infrasound is invisible and inaudible, it seems apparent they were irresponsible and abandoned sound thinking and a sense of well being for humanity in exchange for the dollar. Everyone has suffered and will continue suffering until something is done. It is no coincidence people are depressed, sick, and violent. With a country that now hums 24 hours a day with dangerous infrasound both through the ground and through the air, where are we to go. I guess NASA has the answer, although it seems noise is a big problem in space too.

Sincerely,

Paul A. Reichle lll

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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 19:45:50 EST From: SMARTNEWS@aol.com Subject: re: Freud may have been right: people can suppress memories

Dear List,

Please find info. below.

Sincerely, Neil Brick

Dark thoughts - Freud may have been right: people can suppress memories - Michael Anderson and Collin Green of the University of Oregon in Eugene asked 32 people to memorise a list of 50 or so simple pairs of words...The volunteers were then presented with the first word and asked either to recall the second or banish it from their minds for four seconds. Volunteers were asked to suppress the second word between zero and 16 times. The researchers found that volunteers were much less able to recall words that had been repressed many times - even when they were offered money to remember. http://www.newscientist.com/dailynews/news.jsp?id=ns9999519

also see Manipulating Memory Study: Humans Can Suppress Unwanted Thoughts By Willow Lawson http://abcnews.go.com/sections/scitech/DailyNews/memory_repression010314.html

1from ABCNEWS.com .

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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 18:30:26 -0600 From: "R. Nelson" <protogod@swbell.net> Subject: Silver Poisoning

http://protogod.exit.de/hmp.htm

or try: http://home.swbell.net/protogod/mp3.html

and once you are redirected to my server the mp3 page comes up, click in the address bar and delete /mp3tutor/mp3page.htm and replace it with /hmp/hmp.htm . My server always has the latest version.

Silver poisoning is one of the nastiest causes and one of the most effective mechanisms of implementing mind control, a fact that appears to have escaped both you and the masses... pay special attention to the section on water flouridation.

I can usually be found on dalnet or undernet in the #[FekLar] room

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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 21:23:50 -0800 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> Subject: RE: [MC] Nick Begich, HAARP, /Eleanor White & Cheryl Welsh.

> However, Begish *IS* a "good guy," Dude...and I believe you > should REFLECT SUCH in your "reality check" posts.

Good guy and good marketer of sensationalist books, yes, expert, no.

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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:26:21 -0800 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> Subject: More Art Bell misinfo

Is anyone listening to Art Bell's alleged breaking news on IT (Ginger)?

This is a joke, and reveals the low level of research and fact checking that goes into Art's show.

What the alleged investigative reporter is describing is the iBOT Transporter, which is old news. See the NBC show from http://www.msnbc.com/news/285231.asp from last June.

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Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 00:57:35 -0700 From: "Pat" <eagleph@ctaz.com> Subject: Fw: [MC] More Art Bell misinfo

I quit listening to Art Bell long ago. There are better things to do, methinks. Some of the people who've been on his show are corny flakes. Most, maybe. IMO.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> To: "Mc@Topica. Com" <mc@topica.com> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 12:24 AM Subject: [MC] More Art Bell misinfo

> Is anyone listening to Art Bell's alleged breaking news on IT (Ginger)? > > This is a joke, and reveals the low level of research and fact checking > that goes into Art's show. > > What the alleged investigative reporter is describing is the iBOT > Transporter, which > is old news. See the NBC show from http://www.msnbc.com/news/285231.asp from > last June. > > __________________________________ > Post to: mc@topica.com . Unsubscribe to: mc-unsubscribe@topica.com . List info: www.topica.com/lists/mc/ >

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Date: Sat, 17-Mar-2001 08:02:22 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: E.L.F. / MC

http://www.adacomp.net/~mcherney/nwo.html

JV

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Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 01:11:41 -0700 From: "Pat" <eagleph@ctaz.com> Subject: [MC] Effects of infrasound from trains on people

Thanks, Wes. That answers part of my question some time back regarding infrasound, and confirms my gut feeling that it does cause many ills in current society.

Pat

----- Original Message ----- From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> To: "Mc@Topica. Com" <mc@topica.com> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 5:41 PM Subject: [MC] Effects of infrasound from trains on people

> Forwarded from: > > Paul Reichle [reichle.3@osu.edu] > Taoshum-l list > Fri 3/16/2001 11:44 AM Infrasound travels faster through water and solids and > does not dissipate. Its physical and psychological effects are varied but > the overt characteristic is an intense feeling of oppression. Fatigue, > blurred vision, irritability, headache, nausea, difficulty concentrating, > tingling skin, and aching limbs are all effects of infrasound. > Low frequency electro-magnetic waves have similar effects. David > S. Walonick did a study of the effects of 6-10 Hz ELF on brain waves. > Brain electrical activity in the theta and alpha (the creative, insightful > and meditative states) centers around 6-8 Hz. Most of our awake thinking > is in the Beta range, above 12 Hz. Brain wave frequency ranges can be > associated with mood or thought patterns. He determined the brain "locks > onto" artificial electro-magnetic energy. It attempts to fight the > invasion, then locks onto the electric energy. Likewise it can work at the > cellular level causing disease. > AC drives produce both. As a composer the AC traction motor > locomotive as invaded nearly every aspect of my life. NASA has documented > 17 Hz infrasound produces extreme blurring of vision. After two cornea > transplants, even with 20/20 vision with glasses my eyes produce vision > akin to the Comedy Channel's Dr. Katz show. Images pulsate almost 24 hours > a day. With 48 inch cooling fans for the power inverters, I either have > high volume white noise, infrasound, or audible hum in my home most of the > day. Tinnitus accompanies all of this. When I recorded recently in Nashville in a professional studio, the > electro-magnetic waves in the air produced by AC powered locomotives > destroyed five ADAT digital recorders. > It is no coincidence people are depressed, sick, and violent. With > a country that now hums 24 hours a day with dangerous infrasound both > through the ground and through the air, where are we to go. I guess NASA > has the answer, although it seems noise is a big problem in space too.

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Date: Sat, 17-Mar-2001 08:36:56 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: MC Generator Waveform

Having a close look at some excellent waveform samples I have been able to record to harddrive and analyze. The Electro-magnetic signal present is based on a plurality of frequencies based on 60 hz. The plurality extends in both directions from the 60 Hz base frequency.

Lowest frequency is .9375 hz

Highest frequncy extends well into the tens of kilohertz

On first examination the signal appears to be of a white noise nature On further examination it is much more structured than a noise signal and very repetative in plural frequencies (odd and/or even multiples of 60) The largest amplitude frequency is 60 hz itself. I have checked and re-checked and this is not 60hz hum. This was easily verified by scoping the 60Hz mains signal and the induced electro-magnetic signal on a dual trace scope. Should the larger 60Hz induced signal been the result of 60Hz mains hum then the 2 signals would have been in sync. Dual trace scoping easily displays that they are not in sync. This at least proves that the larger 60Hz component of the induced signal has nothing to do with 60Hz mains hum, instead it is a signal operating independantly of the 60Hz mains. Neither could it be the reasult of a motor driven, mains powered appliance. If it was, then the electro-magnetic field generated by such an appliance might be delayed to a certain degree, but still in sync with the 60Hz mains signal. The fact that this induced signal is not in sync with the 60Hz power mains is quite important. It can be used to produce electromagnetic resonances between itself and any electro-magnetic fields produced by "Net Currents" in the wiring. I can't say for sure, but there appears to be what sounds like low level embedded vocalizations within this signal.

A sample of this signal is avaiable on request.

JV ------------------------------ __________________________________ Post to: mc@topica.com . Unsubscribe to: mc-unsubscribe@topica.com . List info: www.topica.com/lists/mc/

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-- Topica Digest --

Diesel-electric traction locomotives By protogod@swbell.net

Silver Poisoning: detection By protogod@swbell.net

RE: Diesel-electric traction locomotives By cybershadow@juno.com

RE: Diesel-electric traction locomotives By frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca

re: Study of Mind's Ability to Repress Backs Freud By smartnews@aol.com

re: Reports of Child Abuse & Neglect Grew 33 Percent in the 1990s By smartnews@aol.com

Replacing a Metal Shield By zilson@aol.com

Metal sheeting By Woods_2000@webtv.net

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Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 05:57:12 -0600 From: "R. Nelson" <protogod@swbell.net> Subject: Diesel-electric traction locomotives

>> For GE and GM, there is one issue that is substantial. If my right to privacy is being revoked by two corporations, that makes their practices unconstitutional. If they knowingly designed and manufactured a device that produces infrasound and the effects are documented, then they are negligent. >> Because infrasound is invisible and inaudible, it seems apparent they were irresponsible and abandoned sound thinking and a sense of well being for humanity in exchange for the dollar. Everyone has suffered and will continue suffering until something is done. >> It is no coincidence people are depressed, sick, and violent. With a country that now hums 24 hours a day with dangerous infrasound both through the ground and through the air, where are we to go.

I find that interesting. The modern railroad locomotive also appears to be designed to be as fuel-inefficient as possible.

Diesel railroad engines have used some form of electric traction motor drive since their introduction in the 1950's. There never has been a commercially successful diesel railroad locomotive: all diesel-powered railroad engines are diesel-electric locomotives.

Using these locomotives might have made sense until the 1970s when fuel was inexpensive, but since the 1970s it has made a lot more sense to go back to steam locomotives, but using modern steam technologies, and using natural gas rather than coal or wood for the fuel.

Natural gas is expensive now, but from the 1970s to the present day it was the obvious choice, to use a domestic energy resource rather than to have to import foreign oil. (The current high price in natural gas is likely to be temporary.)

The diesel-electric locomotive is inherently inefficient, because the raw power is first generated by fuel and converted from heat to mechanical energy (the diesel engine), then the mechanical energy is converted by alternator or generator to electricity (the maximum efficiency of the conversion under perfect conditions is 66 percent), and then the electricity so produced is converted back into mechanical energy (again, maximum efficiency under perfect conditions is 66 percent).

Basically, only about half of the original BTU content of the fuel is actually converted to motive power; the rest is wasted. (Under perfect conditions; 40 to 45 percent effciency is actually nominal)

Compare this to steam. The steam engine is one of the highest known efficiencies for converting heat to mechanical energy. It does so without any intermediate steps, converting the heat from the fuel directly into mechanical energy.

The efficiency of the steam engine is more than twice that of the diesel-electric locomotive, or in other words, it costs only half as much in fuel.

The only advantage to using diesel-electric traction in locomotives is a marginally better control over the traction (less wheel slippage on acceleration), and a greater initial torque and acceleration. A greater initial torque and acceleration means that the train can accelerate slightly faster than one powered with steam engines, so that the railroad engineer could have his head pressed into the back of his seat if he wanted to on acceleration (although no engineers are ever seen to do this).

A greater initial torque and acceleration might be a factor in a tiny number of rail routes where there are very steep grades, where the trains may have to stop on the grade and then resume with a full load. These routes are rare, usually found in small logging and mining railroads, and many of these railroads use non standard equipment to begin with. For example, most of these railroads are narrow gauge (the rails are closer together than standard rails, and the axles shorter)

Note that the world used steam locomotives until the 1950s, and during the decade that the diesel-electric was introduced, it took eight diesel locomotives to haul the same load that only took two of the largest.most powerful steam locomotives to haul. The only reason the diesel was able to replace steam was due to the fact that the fuel was much less expensive than coal, and was less labor intensive (firemen in the Union demanded that the diesel be utilized... I wouldn't want to shovel coal into a hot oven myself). The steam engine also had somewhat greater maintenence costs than the diesel. Since 1970, all of these original advantages have been nullified, even with the current high price of natural gas. (And you don't shovel natural gas, you pipe it in from the CNG tanker car behind the locomotives.)

If what you say is true about the production of infrasound in these locmotives is true ( I know that what you say about the effects of infrasound is true: no need to convince me), then it ought to make you wonder about foreign involvement. Greatly contributing to the US national trade deficit by increasing the demand for foriegn oil imports when we have a more than adequete supply of domestic natural gas is not the most patriotic activity that GE, GM, or ALCO could be involved in.

Now that I think of it and remember, the hum produced by diesel-electric locomotives does seem to be a tad on the iritating side...

Check out palsy U.S. national energy policies of the last 30 years and the solution: Go to my redirector page at http://home.swbell.net/protogod/mp3.html My server isn't always up, so you may have to try again. I do not keep a copy of the page I am referring you to on the mirror site at protogod.exit.de, so don't waste your time looking there if my server is down: try back later.

Once that redirects you to my mp3 page, it will show up in the address bar as something like http:/64.132.244.36/mp3tutor/mp3page.htm Erase the /mp3tutor/mp3page.htm and replace it with /defeat.htm , so you have http:/64.132.244.36/defeat.htm in the adress bar, and hit return.

Until I find a better redirector solution, I'm sorry but you'll have to use that procedure, because I'm not putting that page up on a public web hosting server. If anyone knows of a redirector page IP address updater program for Win98 which is capable of updating more than one page on a site, or on multiple sites, please let me know.

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Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 05:59:48 -0600 From: "R. Nelson" <protogod@swbell.net> Subject: Silver Poisoning: detection

How to detect human scum and foreign scam running lamers, and other assorted toads who attempt to use silver adsorption frequency x-ray emissions on victims who have silver poisoning to attempt mind control or other irritation.

Use silver chloride, silver iodide, silver nitrate, or another silver compound. Silver iodide is inexpensive; it is used in cloud seeding. (Dumping large planeloads of silver iodide into clouds during droughts in an attempt to make it rain; the photoelectric affect builds up a negative electrostatic charge in the cloud, which attracts and condenses water vapor, which has been known to build the cloud size and water content significantly, sometimes resulting in rain.)

Take the silver compound, and find some way to form a cloud with it, and release the cloud downwind of the area you want to perform the detection in. With many silver compounds, it is a simple as mixing the compound with water and boiling it.

In fact, just going to a major city and releasing a cloud of a silver compound will cease all operations or nuking in the area, because the lamers know that it constitutes a detection method, and will make them greatly irritated, as well as paranoid.

The principle lies in the fact that either a cloud or a gas of a silver compound will fluoresce in the ultraviolet range, within the narrow frequency spectrum of silver's excitation energies and frequencies. This allows a two or three dimensional image of all silver adsorption frequency x-ray transmissions in the area to be created.

While the x-ray emissions from TV sets or other more powerful sources is highly directional, and difficult to detect, the cloud of gas will adsorb some of the x-radiation and re-emit a portion of at the lower ultraviolet frequencies, especially the x-ray / ultraviolet overlap band frequency. While the original x-ray transmission is usually highly directional, the cloud molecules' re-emission occurs in random directions.

The detector is a sensitive ultraviolet video camera, outfitted with Kodak color filters that create a narrow bandpass filter in the ultraviolet, within silver's excitation or ionization frequency spectrum. With one or two cameras, a 2-D picture can be imaged on a computer, and with three or more, a 3-D image.

Every television set in the entire area will show up as broadcasting a cone of radiation, and the radiation pattern will be visible upon the screen of the imaging computer. It will appear as if each tv set were broadcasting a cone of ultraviolet light resembling a searchlight, except that the beams are stationary. The beams will be seen as emanting from the walls of houses, with the source of the beam hidden invisibly inside. (The x-ray emissions pass right through walls, except in a few cases where there is lead-based paint.)

With this detection setup, you can see the power levels of the various transmission sources (which are almost always television sets). When you see an exceptionally high powered source, it is likely that someone is being nuked or manipulated with it. When such a source is seen to vary its output vector within a small range from time to time, obviously being aimed back and forth within a limited number of degrees, then it is obvious that the device is both tracking and nuking some unfortunate victim, controlled by some form of manual or automatic aiming system.

Toads have been known to use high power irradiation for attempted mind control, but this is rare; the most common use is for harrassment, for example to destroy an enemy by destroying their enemy's sleep schedule, or to make someone lose their job as a result of the destruction of the sleep schedule, so that the position will open and the lamers can stand a chance of filling it (a good chance, considering the degree of manipulation that can be acheived via silver poisoning and other forms of mind control... deciding the outcome of a job interview would not be difficult. This assessment is based on the existing, unclassified, known and proven methods.)

When such devices are used for mind control, much lower power levels would normally be used. However, this can still be detected and recognized for what it is, because the radiation will contain definite non standard modulation patterns which are not normally found in the output of a television set which is displaying normal broadcast or recorded programming. For example, alpha or theta or delta wave (brainwave) patterns. Remember, the x-ray emissions at silver adsorption frequencies will directly stimulate silver poisoned nerves and neurons, and directly cause nerve and nueron firings. Higher power levels are not usually a neccessity for this purpose; the modulation pattern is very effective at power levels not that much greater than an off the shelf, well-adjusted color television set. Even at the levels of a well-adjusted TV set, there will be some effects seen.

It has been known since at least 1992 to the toads that use these devices that this method of detection exists. Therefore, if one releases a silver compound cloud or gas into an area where they are operating, they will detect its presence with their own detection equipment almost immediately, and rapidly cease all operations, and if they are present at the physical location of the transmitting device they will attempt a rapid escape from the area, abandoning their equipment. There is a small window of opportunity where the detection will be effective, however. Those who are less sophisticated who attempt to use irradiation as a weapon will almost certainly not have this detection equipment, and can be located without fail every time this method is used.

Using this method from time to time, especially in large city areas where it is more likely that such activities are occurring, even if you don't have a detector array, will always at least cost the more sophisticated operators money, and it will generally waste vast amounts of their time and resources, and greatly increasing their paranoia (poetic justice, there). The more paranoid someone gets, the more likely they are to make a mistake and actually get caught. These maggots have never had a problem with making others suffer and gaining enjoyment and satisfaction from the suffering they cause, so a taste of their own medicine is just what they deserve.

A less sophisticated detection setup would use only a simple sensitive ultraviolet detector, rather than an expensive ultraviolet video camera. Basic minimum tringulation might be achieved by using multiple instances of this type of detector and having a computer perform the advanced triangulations (three detectors is not enough), but its true value lies in simply being a power level indicator, a type of silver adsorption frequency geiger counter.

An area that shows above average levels of x-radiation is likely to contain nuking or manipulation activities, and is an excellent candidate for releasing a detector cloud inside from time to time. This method can use very small amounts of silver compound, at levels which will not trigger a 'someone is searching for us' paranoia reaction, and still be used for basic triangulation, although the accuracy will not always be precise because of the general background of normal TV set emissions. However, it can really have its use in detecting likely areas that are candidates for releasing a dense distribution of silver compound cloud, without the risk of you being detected by the lamers.

It stands to reason that if you are conducting either a fake or a real detection effort, to set up the device that produces the cloud and set it for remote control, so that you are not located at it's origin when it releases the cloud. If you were, it would be easy to locate and identify you. If you are not, all the lamers will find is a large pan of boiling water that contains silver compounds, sitting on a Coleman camp stove you bought at a garage sale for five dollars. That constitutes remote control, since you light it and leave, and it takes ten minutes for the water to boil, by which time you are nowhere near it. Since it is difficult to know who you might be dealing with, leaving fingerprints is also inadvisable.

A fake detection effort will result in costing the deserving fools a large sum of money for equipment that they will have to abandon, rather than them risk identification by going back to pick it up after it may have been located. Most of the equipment used by these lamers is far more sophisticated and expensive than simply a television set that has had the high voltage turned up too high. It will also cause them nearly the same type of irritation and suffering that the use of their method causes to others, because for all they know, it is a group of pissed off people who own long range sniper rifles, an unidentified government agency, an uncontrolled group within the Defense Department, or even the KGB, Ninja or Mossad that might be searching for them.

I can usually be found on dalnet or undernet in the #[FekLar] room

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Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 09:30:08 -0500 (EST) From: Cyber Shadow <cybershadow@juno.com> Subject: RE: [MC] Diesel-electric traction locomotives

protogod@swbell.net wrote:

A greater initial torque and acceleration might be a factor in a tiny number of rail routes where there are very steep grades, where the trains may have to stop on the grade and then resume with a full load. These routes are rare, usually found in small logging and mining railroads, and many of these railroads use non standard equipment to begin with. For example, most of these railroads are narrow gauge (the rails are closer together than standard rails, and the axles shorter) ============================================== Greetings, No offense, but most of what you have posted here would be considdered by most modern railroad people as "ancient history." In case you might of missed it, Railroads like the Burlington Northern/Santa Fe and the Union Pacific, Which between these two comprise ownership of over 87% of ALL of the railroads in the US today, have phased out the day to day usage of the Old Type of Diesel that you mentioned in favor of the new AC Traction Diesel which has been documented at being in excess of 80% fuel efficient compared to the older DC Diesel locomotives by the National Federation of Railroads Test Track in Pueblo CO.

As for your comments above about there being only a small or limited number of "Steep Grades" is also not correct. In the state of Colorado alone, over 60% of all trackage right of ways are in excess of 3%, which is a considderable grade for a mile long coal train. In the state of Utah this number goes up to 81%. And this is only 2 of the Rocky Mountain States. From California, to the Plains there are far to many Steep Grades to mention here. These facts are available in the Railroad archives of the Burlington Northern/Santa Fe, Union Pacific, etc. On the Eastern Side of the Mississippi, there are quite a few Main Line miles that also exceed the 3% Grade.

As for your comment about the Narrow Guage Railroads. There are only a couple of these left in operation in the US today. Two of the most notable are the Cumbres-Toltec and the Silverton-Durango in Colo. Both of which were used for Passenger travel as well as mining operations. The old Denver & Rio Grande Western were the owners of these two old lines that still operate as tourist attractions today, and both use Steam Locomotives. According to the present day owners of these railroads, Diesel was never used on either of these lines. Jim

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Date: Sat, 17-Mar-2001 22:23:16 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: RE: Diesel-electric traction locomotives

Cyber Shadow wrote: > protogod@swbell.net wrote: > > A greater initial torque and acceleration might be a > factor in a tiny number > of rail routes where there are very steep grades, where > the trains may have > to stop on the grade and then resume with a full load. > These routes are > rare, usually found in small logging and mining railroads, > and many of these > railroads use non standard equipment to begin with. For > example, most of > these railroads are narrow gauge (the rails are closer > together than > standard rails, and the axles shorter) > ===============================================

When we finish discussing Locomotives, I wouldn't mind getting peoples thoughts on several subjects. I was wondering if anyone on the list had any practical calculations based on the Shwarchzenchild Radius formula? After that I would like to explore, if we could, using refected gravity waves from known gravitational phenomenon to make a rough calculation of the size of the Universe. Has enyone been able to find out if the exact position of an electron has been measured within an atom? I think the problem here may lie in the fact that an electron occupies just enough space to manifest itself as a Mass, but not quite enough Mass to manifest itself as a Mass within a given measureable period of Time. Sort of a borderline 2D/3D object. Does anyone feel that Rhymonian Cosmology represent a viable working model for the primary creation of Matter?

JV

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Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 17:49:58 EST From: SMARTNEWS@aol.com Subject: re: Study of Mind's Ability to Repress Backs Freud

Dear LIst,

Below please find information about this article.

Sincerely, Neil Brick

Study of Mind's Ability to Repress Backs Freud, AP - NY Times - 3/15/01, "In the rat study, Tracey Shors of Rutgers University said rats were not as likely remember the connection between two events separated by time if given a drug that cuts the production of neurons in the hippocampus, an area of the brain used in the formation of some types of memory. Eighteen rats were given the drug. The brains of both rats and humans have a hippocampus, and the study is the first to show in mammals that new neurons are used in memory formation, though previous work has shown the connection in birds, the researcher Shors said."

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Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 17:55:08 EST From: SMARTNEWS@aol.com Subject: re: Reports of Child Abuse & Neglect Grew 33 Percent in the 1990s

Dear List,

Below please find infromation about this article.

Sincerely, Neil Brick

Reports of Child Abuse & Neglect Grew 33 Percent in the 1990s - Rate of Growth in Reports Slowed Substantially in Last Half of the Decade - WASHINGTON, D.C., March 13, 2001 - In the last decade of the millennium, the number of children reported as abused or neglected in the United States grew by 33 percent to reach a level of 3,244,000, according to a report released today by Prevent Child Abuse America http://www.preventchildabuse.org/media/03_13_01_3.html

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Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 22:15:41 EST From: Zilson@aol.com Subject: Replacing a Metal Shield

Today, My wife and I were rearranging our bedroom. For members of this list as you all know this can be an involved process. To cut to the main point of interest. We keep a large 4/6 piece of sheet metal under the carpet below the bed. This carpet is never walked on, as the bed cover most of it's area.

When we pulled the carpet back. The sheet metal that sat flat on the floor, had semi circular ridges clustered around the area that would have been my head as well from say the area that would be top of my thighs to say my solar plexus. The metal was distinctly raised in varying almost cup like patterns. Not quite complete circles that were pushed upward from the floor side of the metal. . .

Impact craters? Or perhaps an invisible being who lives in an upside down no gravity world and pass through walls and perhaps used the shield as for a cookie cutting board?

JZ

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Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 20:18:01 -0800 (PST) From: Woods_2000@webtv.net Subject: Metal sheeting

JZ, Do you live on the ground floor? In other words could anyone work on you from below? Were these ridges pushed up or down on the sheet of metal? What gauge of metal are we talking about? When you installed the metal did you realize any positive effect? Woody

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RE: Diesel-electric traction locomotives By protogod@swbell.net

RE: Diesel-electric traction locomotives By west@sonic.net

Follow up on Replacing metal sheeting. By zilson@aol.com

RE: Diesel-electric traction locomotives (URL Correction) By protogod@swbell.net

Take A Poly-Polar Approach By zilson@aol.com

RE: Take A Poly-Polar Approach By frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca

Re: Take A Poly-Polar Approach By zilson@aol.com

Lawsuit against the United States for the use of Torture and Mind Control By xfiles@uswest.net

Are you a target of multiple stalkers? By Perpdetector@hotmail.com

Defeating "Mind-Control" Technology By Perpdetector@hotmail.com

radiation bombardment By Perpdetector@hotmail.com

Michael Sweeney's Radio comments: MC By Perpdetector@hotmail.com

1992 October Surprise Info By thefbiisthecatcherintherye@hotmail.com

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Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 05:03:30 -0600 From: "R. Nelson" <protogod@swbell.net> Subject: RE: Diesel-electric traction locomotives

>>>the new AC Traction Diesel which has been documented at being in excess of 80% fuel efficient compared to the older DC Diesel locomotives by the National Federation of Railroads Test Track in Pueblo CO.

I'm not a total expert on such matters. I do know that I have been told by some ver prominent authorities that the maximum possible efficiency in any generator or motor is 66 percent. These authorities include the Minnesota Department of Energy, Steve Ruben, a head researcher at Solar energy Research Institute in Golden, CO, and a very well versed technician at Dresser-Rand Insdustries who was able to design me a small steam turbine from scratch in tless tha 15 minutes. Dresser-Rand has a 1-800 techincal information number. The guy at Dresser-Rand was was beyond my speed, obviously the type that could draw equations on a blackboard ( and understand what they meant) that would make Albert Einstien or Stephen Hawking reel back in fear.

'National Federation of Railroads Test Track in Pueblo CO' ... for a mind control newsgroup participant, you seem pretty quick to accept anything the government tells you; therefore, you likely have demonstrated that mind control does indeed exist.

If you want an example of the "unquestionable character and integrity" of certain government agencies, go to my geothermal energy page. Try: http://home.swbell.net/protogod/mp3.html and once you have been redirected to my web server and the mp3 page comes up, click in the address bar and delete /mp3tutor/mp3page.htm and replace it with /geo.htm .

http://64.123.145.227/mp3tutor/mp3page.htm then replace it with http://64.123.145.227/hmp/geo.htm Some government agencies have been known to speak with forked tongue. Let me guess, you'll be telling us next that silver dental fillings are prefectly safe, and that the Chariman of the ADA is actually Jesus.

I can usually be found on dalnet or undernet in the #[FekLar] room

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Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 04:46:44 -0800 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> Subject: RE: [MC] Diesel-electric traction locomotives

protogod@swbell.net said:

>... for a mind control newsgroup participant, >you seem pretty quick to accept anything the >government tells you; therefore, you likely have >demonstrated that mind control does indeed >exist.

>forked tongue. Let me guess, you'll be telling >us next that silver dental fillings are >prefectly safe, and that the Chariman of the ADA >is actually Jesus.

Since you're new to the list, you may not be aware that these are flames. As stated in the list rules (which you agreed to observe), these are not permitted on this list.

Thanks - Wes Thomas, list moderator

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Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 08:48:25 EST From: Zilson@aol.com Subject: Follow up on Replacing metal sheeting.

First: I sleep on the second floor of an attached home. We occupy the entire house.

Second this particular protection/evidence gathering artifact was put in place close to a year ago, and forgotten about (very important)

Third It is the gauge metal used for a furnace or stove firewall.

Fourth The floor underneath the metal shows nothing. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Side note My wife and I were sitting in the room one afternoon, and we heard a sound that quickly moved from one side of the floor to another. It was under the floor, and I felt it was spread out I thought 3. My wife who is a little more scientifically oriented than I am wouldn't say.

The movement stopped upon reaching the other side of the wall.

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Upon moving in to this place we found pieces of air hose all over the place. Also as many TI's have reported in other cases There is the sound of a high pressure(piston?) valve closing with 'great force' from time to time. All of are on the first floor and I believe I know where at least two of them may be located.

One is in the area of the living room where my female bull terrier was sleeping. and she awoke one morning with what a the vet initially diagnosed (based on x-rays) as a broken neck. She died about a week later.

Anyone who wants a JPG is welcome . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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JZ

ps: Don't talk to unseen perps. And never believe nothing 'a little birdie' tells you.

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Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 09:43:10 -0600 From: "R. Nelson" <protogod@swbell.net> Subject: RE: Diesel-electric traction locomotives (URL Correction)

The URL given was a typo:

original message read: http://64.123.145.227/mp3tutor/mp3page.htm then replace it with http://64.123.145.227/hmp/geo.htm

should have read: http://64.123.145.227/mp3tutor/mp3page.htm then replace it with http://64.123.145.227/geo.htm

-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>the new AC Traction Diesel which has been documented at being in excess of 80% fuel efficient compared to the older DC Diesel locomotives by the National Federation of Railroads Test Track in Pueblo CO.

I'm not a total expert on such matters. I do know that I have been told by some ver prominent authorities that the maximum possible efficiency in any generator or motor is 66 percent. These authorities include the Minnesota Department of Energy, Steve Ruben, a head researcher at Solar energy Research Institute in Golden, CO, and a very well versed technician at Dresser-Rand Insdustries who was able to design me a small steam turbine from scratch in tless tha 15 minutes. Dresser-Rand has a 1-800 techincal information number. The guy at Dresser-Rand was was beyond my speed, obviously the type that could draw equations on a blackboard ( and understand what they meant) that would make Albert Einstien or Stephen Hawking reel back in fear.

'National Federation of Railroads Test Track in Pueblo CO' ... for a mind control newsgroup participant, you seem pretty quick to accept anything the government tells you; therefore, you likely have demonstrated that mind control does indeed exist.

If you want an example of the "unquestionable character and integrity" of certain government agencies, go to my geothermal energy page. Try: http://home.swbell.net/protogod/mp3.html and once you have been redirected to my web server and the mp3 page comes up, click in the address bar and delete /mp3tutor/mp3page.htm and replace it with /geo.htm .

http://64.123.145.227/mp3tutor/mp3page.htm then replace it with http://64.123.145.227/geo.htm

************** corrected URL **************

Some government agencies have been known to speak with forked tongue. Let me guess, you'll be telling us next that silver dental fillings are prefectly safe, and that the Chariman of the ADA is actually Jesus.

I can usually be found on dalnet or undernet in the #[FekLar] room

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Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 11:55:53 EST From: Zilson@aol.com Subject: Take A Poly-Polar Approach

Just another followup. There are many many ways of affecting the through the walls impact experience. Some high tech, some no tech, or a combination of each.

A savvy torture expert will train you to respond to subtle electronic stimuli so when you leave his area and you encounter an effect similar to his/her torture method you think 'attack'.

By the way from an operational perspective there is no such thing as latent schizophrenia and THAT sounds a lot like 'perp' talk.

JZ.

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Date: Sun, 18-Mar-2001 17:23:59 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: RE: Take A Poly-Polar Approach

zilson@aol.com wrote: > > Just another followup. There are many many > ways of affecting the through the walls impact > experience.

Like applying a high voltage to a muscle and making it jerk using a beefed up flyback (tesla) coil type arrangement being driven by a mechanical generator which also generates a lot of vibration at the same time.

JV

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Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 13:07:43 EST From: Zilson@aol.com Subject: Re: [MC] Take A Poly-Polar Approach

In a message dated 3/18/01 12:24:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca writes:

<< a beefed up flyback (tesla) coil type arrangement being driven by a mechanical generator which also generates a lot of vibration >>

From a primitive perspective the vibrations alone after three or four days of no sleep will drive you batty.

In your version of this letter there is an attachment of a device I found using infrared. Notice it is suspended within a beam. What is the hollow in the middle? A female receptacle?

A very confusing (To The Object) yet smart method for the perp, also I picked up a book on hearing and psycho-galvanic skin response very interesting I will share any techniques improvised from it.

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Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 12:52:52 -0700 From: chuck <xfiles@uswest.net> Subject: Lawsuit against the United States for the use of Torture and Mind Control

U.S. SUPREME COURT DOCKET NO.

IN THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT

CHARLES AUGUST SCHLUND, III and RANDY D. LANG,

Petitioners

vs.

THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, et al,

Respondents.

ON APPEAL FROM THE JUDGMENT OF THE UNITED STATES

COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE NINTH CIRCUIT

C.A. NO. 00-15-126

(D.CT. NO. CIV-98-1875-PHX-RCB)

PETITION FOR WRIT OF CERTIORARI

Charles August Schlund, III 8520 N. 54th Drive Glendale, AZ 85302 (602) 670-2017 (M) Petitioner In Pro Per

Randy D. Lang 11024 N. 28th Dr., Ste. 200 Phoenix, Arizona 85029 (623) 878-7270 (O) Petitioner in Pro Per

I. QUESTIONS PRESENTED FOR REVIEW.

A. Was the joint failure and refusal of the Central District Court and Appellate Court to issue, per Petitioner's repeated written requests, findings of fact and conclusions of law a gross departure from the normal and customary course of procedure any of the Questions for Review stated below, justifying the Supreme Court's supervisory review? (See, Appendix Nos. 3,4,5, and 7-12). B. Did the Central District Court and the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals violate Petitioners' constitutional due process rights by continuously failing and refusing to make any findings of fact and conclusions of law, despite Petitioners' repeated written requests for the courts to do so? (See Appendix Nos. 3,4,5 and 7-12). C. Did the District Court's failure and refusal to make any findings of fact and conclusions of law, in disregard of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedures, Rules 43, 52(c), and 65 and Petitioners' repeated written request and Petitioners' request per Federal Rules of Evidence 201 (to take mandatory judicial notice of such requests) and such rules cause prejudicial error by eliminating Petitioners' factual and legal basis for review by the Supreme Court under Supreme Court Rule 14(i)(h)(i)(ii) and (vi)? (See Appendix Nos. 3,4,5 and 7-12). D. Whether the District Court's satisfaction of the Government's fabrication of facts and no affidavits or any other evidence but mere attorney ipse dixit opinion to support its two-page Motion for summary Judgement result in prejudicial error, violating Petitioners' constitutional rights. Likewise, the Ninth Circuit Appellate Court's notification causing same result? (See Appendix Nos. 6, 9, 10, and 12).

E. Whether the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals' refusal and failure to issue findings of fact and conclusions of law on any of Petitioners' appellate motions on appeal, per their i continuous written requests, caused prejudicial error and violated their constitutional due process rights, leaving them without an adequate record for review by the Supreme Court? (See, U.S. Sup. Ct. Rule 14 (h)(i)(vi) [...findings of fact and conclusions of law...]).

ii II. LIST OF ALL PARTIES

All parties and the Solicitor General of the United States have been served by First Class Mail (U.S. Sup. Ct. Rule 29) this 14th day of March, 2001 as follows:

Charles August Schlund, III 8520 N. 54th Drive Glendale, AZ 85302 (602) 670-2017 (M) Plaintiff/Appellant/Petitioner In Pro Per

Randy D. Lang 11024 N. 28th Dr., Ste. 200 Phoenix, Arizona 85029 (623) 878-7270 (O) Plaintiff/Appellant/Petitioner in Pro Per

Richard G. Patrick Assistant U.S. Attorney 4000 United States Courthouse 230 North First Avenue Phoenix, AZ 85025 (602) 514-7500 Attorney for Defendant/Appellees/Respondent U.S. Department of Justice, Drug Enforcement Administration

Solicitor General of the United States Room 5614, Dept. Of Justice 950 Pennsylvania Ave. N.W. Washington D.C. 20530-0001 Interested Non-named Party (U.S. Sup. Ct. Rule 29(4)(a))

by: Randy D. Lang

iii TABLE OF CONTENTS

Page

I. QUESTIONS PRESENTED FOR REVIEW i

II. LIST OF ALL PARTIES iii

III. INTEREST OF PETITIONERS v

IV. TABLE OF AUTHORITIES vi

V. PETITION FOR WRIT OF CERTIORARI 1

VI. OPINION BELOW 1

VII. STATEMENT OF JURISDICTION 1

VIII. UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION, STATUTORY PROVISIONS, 1 AND THE PROTECTION AGAINST TORTURE AND HUMAN RIGHTS ACT

IX. STATEMENT OF THE CASE AND THE FACTS 2

X. LEGAL ARGUMENTS

A. The Court Erred in Interpreting The Supreme Court's Decision 11 of Celotex Corp. V. Catrett And Failed to Make Findings of Fact And Conclusions of Law, Despite Petitioners Requested Such For Review on Appeal.

B. The District Court Greatly Departed From The Accepted And 14 Usual Course of Judicial Proceedings, Which The Appellate Court Ratified When it Accepted The Government's Fabrication of Fact to The Doran Case And Then Refused to Make Findings of Fact And Conclusions of Law, Requested by Petitioners, Requiring The Exercise of The United States Supreme Court Supervisory Power to Protect Petitioner's Constitutional Rights.

XI. CONCLUSION 16

XII. NOTICE OF CERTIFICATE OF COMPLIANCE 18

XIII. PROOF OF SERVICE 19

v III. INTEREST OF PETITIONERS

All the parties listed on the List of All Parties, incorporated here by reference, are interested parties in the matter.v IV. TABLE OF AUTHORITIES

CASE LAW PAGE

Statutes and Constitutional Provisions

Protection Against Torture Act 2 The Civil Rights Act, now known as the Electronic 2 Communications Act of 1986 (18 U.S.C. §§ 2510-2520) (1988) [Title I]) and The Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968 (18 U.S.C. §2510-2520) (1968) [Title III]) including, however not limited to the aforesaid.

Anderson v. Liberty Lobby, Inc., 15 477 U.S. 242 (1986)

Celotex Corp. v. Catrett 2, 11, 12, 13, 15 477 U.S. 317, 106 S.Ct. 2548 (1986)

Central Intelligence Agency v. John Cary Sims and Sidney M. Wolfe, 7 471 U.S. 159, 85 L.Ed. 2d 185 S.Ct. 1881 (1965)

Doran v. McGinness, 158 F.R.D. 383 (1994) 2, 14, 15 [ "Mental telepathy mind control"]

Matsushita Electric Industry Co. v. Zenith Radio Corp. 12 475 U.S. 574, 587 (1986)

Siderman De Blak v. Republic of Argentina, 2, 14 946 F.2d 1450 (9th Cir. 1991) [Torture]

Thomas v. Wichita Coca Cola Bottling Co., 12 968 F.2d 1022 (10th Circ.) cert. denied, 506 U.S. 1013 (1992)

U.S. v. Koyomejian, 970 F.2d 536 (9th Cir. en banc), cert. denied. 14 946 F.2d 1450 (1991) [This case was only interpreted facts pertaining to the criminal context. Electronic-force excessively intrudes to grossly violate rights to privacy, especially as to other parties coming in contact with subject target of surveillance activities]

vi TABLE OF AUTHORITIES (Con't)

Legislative and Executive Materials and Rules

Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, Rule 43 10, 16

Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, Rule 52 8, 9, 10, 16

Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, Rule 56 7, 8, 10, 11, 12, 16

Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, Rule 65 10, 16

Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, Rule 201(b)

Restatement 702 10

Supreme Court Rule 14(h)(i)(ii) and (vi) 10, 16

vii

IN THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT

CHARLES AUGUST SCHLUND, III and RANDY D. LANG,

Petitioners

vs.

THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, et al,

Respondents.

V. PETITION FOR WRIT OF CERTIORARI Appellant Charles August Schlund, III and Randy D. Lang ("Petitioners") in Pro Per, respectfully petitions for a Writ of Certiorari to review the Judgment of the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit in this case. VI. OPINION BELOW The opinion of the Court of Appeals (Appendix No. 1) was ordered not for publication. The opinions of the District Court (Appendix No. 2) are unreported. VII. STATEMENT OF JURISDICTION The Court of Appeal entered its decision on December 14, 2001 (Appendix No. 1). No Petition for Rehearing was filed. The jurisdiction of this court is invoked under 28 U.S.C. 1254(1). VIII. UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION, STATUTORY PROVISIONS AND THE PROTECTION AGAINST TORTURE AND HUMAN RIGHTS ACT. Because the text of the citations are too voluminous, Petitioner hereby complies with Rules of the Supreme Court of the United States ("Rule") Rule 14(f). The referenced U.S. Constitutional Provisions, Federal Statutes, Executive Issuances include: the First, Second, Fourth, Fifth, Seventh, Ninth, Fourteenth and Seventeenth Amendments to the United States Constitution; Federal Torts Claim Act, 28 U.S.C. §§2671 through 2680; 28 U.S.C. §1346(b); 18 U.S.C. §1964; 42 U.S.C. §§1983 and 1988; Protection of Human Rights Act; The Convention Against Torture and Cruel, Inhumane or Degrading Treatment or Punishment of June 26, 1987; Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, Rules 43, 52, 56, 65 and Federal Rules of Evidence 201(b); and the conflicting decisions of (1) Celotex Corp. v. Catrett, 477 U.S. 317 (1986); Doran v. McGinness, 158 F.R.D. 383 (1994); Siderman De Blak v. Republic of Argentina, 946 F.2d 1450 (9th Cir. 1991) [Torture]. IX. STATEMENT OF THE CASE AND FACTS 1. Under the Federal Torts Claim Act, 26 U.S.C. §§2671-2680; 28 U.S.C. §1356(b); 42 U.S.C. §§1983 and 1988; The Protection of Human Rights Act; The Convention Against Torture and Cruel, Inhumane, or Degrading Treatment or Punishment; and the Civil Rights Act all serve the purpose of preventing the violation of individual rights guaranteed under the First, Second, Fourth, Fifth, Seventh, Ninth, Fourteenth, and Seventeenth Amendments of the Constitution of the United States. These Acts have been integrated and are now known as the Electronic Communication Privacy Act of 1986 (18 U.S.C. §§2510-2520 (1988) [Title I]) and the Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968 (18 U.S.C. §§2510-2520 (1968) [Title III]) and applied to other domestic statutes to the states as well, which are omitted in the interests of judicial economy but reserved as a matter of right. There have been a few cases (Koyomejian, Siderman De Blak, Doran, of most important) which have focused primarily on the criminal context of their application to illegal torture under color of authority and illegal invasion of privacy on the issues of (1) the gross intrusive level of invasion of privacy through modern electronic means and (2) the use of modern or state-of-the art electronic methodology used to torture individual citizens, including the torture of political witnesses against corrupt Government officials. Although there are inconsistent Appellate decisions in the United States Appellate Court and the sparse publication of such opinions, there is a gross lack of continuity in the application of law in these areas nationwide, now requiring Supreme Court Review (Appendix No. 5). 2. Appellant Schlund, an ex-United States Marine, was solicited by the United States Drug Enforcement Agency ("DEA") to participate in various activities of an illegal nature. He refused. He was then set up by the DEA with fabricated evidence and arrested and charged as being an alleged drug manufacturer in Cave Creek, Arizona. The conspiracy by the DEA to fabricate the evidence was a planned scheme designed to enable them to create a reasonable suspicion and probable cause for creating an investigation task force to place Appellant Schlund under surveillance, to invade his privacy, due process, remoe Schlund as a witness to corruption in the DEA, and other constitutional protection and those of whom he comes in contact with. Also, to discredit him as a political witness and utilize electronic surveillance for information gathering concerning all those of whom he comes in contact with, including, but not limited to, the attorney-client privilege, physician-patient privilege, clergyman-penitent privilege, privacy of voting privilege, privacy of association, privacy of speech, etc. The gross intrusions were also made of his body, personal residence, papers, affects and things. He asserts in his verified Complaint ("Complaint") and many affidavits filed in the case that during one or more of the episodes of intrusion, subcutaneous body implants of a CIA design were used by the DEA ("Electronic Implants") and separately various forms of electronic vibration, sounds, magnetic fields, radio waves, and other unknown forms of torture have been imposed upon him through electronic force resulting in torturing of him as a form of retaliation and violation of his civil rights, causing him extensive losses and damages, personally and in his commercial activities. 3. Petitioner Lang asserted a single declaratory relief cause of action, asserting the Government does not have the right to use sophisticated surveillance telecommunications activities and other integrated devices and methodologies to violate his rights to privacy and association with Schlund or other members of the public. Or to harass, torture, or otherwise violate his or other third parties of whom he associates, or violate protective privileges also set forth above. Lang asserted the course of intervention for a declaratory judgment is necessary to prevent violations under color of authority or retaliate against him for his association with Petitioner Schlund (Appendix Nos. 3-5). 4. Petitioner Schlund's Criminal Acquittal. Despite the fact the DEA violated their oath of office while acting under color of law for the purpose of fabricating evidence, perjured testimony, and other illegal acts outside the course and scope of their authority, and in violation of Petitioner Schlund's rights (Appendix No. 5), Petitioner set the matter for a jury trial. It was established at the trial that the Government used an alleged "informant" who lied to induce Schlund by means of illegal entrapment to come to the location of a laboratory under false pretenses. The laboratory was set up by the Government to suck Schlund into the entrapment posture to remove Schlund as a witness against the DEA to conceal massive corruption in the DEA. Petitioner Schlund did go to the location, where he was recorded by electronic surveillance cameras and other telecommunications related devices and methodology, showing Schlund performing various activities at the Government's (DEA) directions at the property located in Arizona (Appendix No. 5). Petitioner Schlund then left the residence where the so-called laboratory was located and was followed by the Government surveillance agents who then arrested him without a warrant and alleged on probable cause they believed he was operating an illicit methamphetamine laboratory (Appendix Nos. 3 and 5). 5. Later, on January 3, 1979, Petitioner Schlund after a jury trial, was "acquitted" in the United States District Court, Phoenix, Arizona of all charges of conspiracy, etc. related to the trumped up drug charges that were created to remove Petitioner Schlund sa a witness against the DEA. The Dept. of Justice ("DOJ") appealed that decision, and the decision was sustained in favor of Schlund (Appendix No. 5). 6. NOTE BENE: Judge Lacey of the United States District Court aggressively and severely reprimanded and told the governmental officials and the prosecutor they were "in contempt" and demanded they be "arrested" for committing "perjury" and "obstructing justice in his court" and for fabricating evidence against Petitioner Schlund. The acquittal was upheld on appeal; and on March 3, 1980 the DOJ and the DEA were advised by the United States Attorney General, Daniel R. Dray, there would be no further prosecution on the grounds of lack of evidence, and presumably because Judge Lacey noted there was "outrageous prosecutorial misconduct" which included withholding crucial evidence critical to Petitioner Schlund's defense (Appendix No. 5). 7. Despite the acquittal, the conspiracy, illegal surveillance, illegal invasion of privacy, and the electronic torture of Petitioner Schlund was and is continuous and ongoing to present. Petitioner Schlund has asserted in his verified Complaint that the DEA tortures him and continues to invade his privacy, based on personal knowledge he possesses relating to documentation he personally analyzed and reviewed contained in files known as the "Don Boles Papers." That he is a political witness, and the torture etc. is done to discredit him to protect the corrupt governmental officials who are involved in the corrupt activity of the Government's covert operations, which include controlling federal and state judges in the judicial system. In fact, Petitioner Schlund filed a Motion to Recuse United States District Judge, the Honorable Robert C. Broomfield, based on his personal knowledge as set forth in Petitioner Schlund's Motion for Refusal and Affidavit in Support of the Motion. The judge was assigned to his case after the Honorable Rosalyn Silver recused herself on the grounds she was an ex-United States Assistant Attorney in the DEA's office for over ten years (Appendix Nos. 3, 4, and 5), although this was not disclosed by her and later discovered by Petitioners. 8. On December 18, 1998, the Government filed its two page pleading entitled "Motion to Dismiss" or, alternatively, "Motion for Summary Judgment," asserting only (1) no basis in reality existed as set forth in the verified Complaint and (2) that Petitioner Schlund could not prove the existence of the nature of the electronic technology used by the Government with any tangible or scientific evidence (Appendix No. 6). Further, that because Lang's declaratory relief action was based on Schlund's facts alleged in the Complaint, it was not a viable cause of action (Appendix Nos. 5 & 6). The Motion to Dismiss was denied. The Motion for Summary Judgment, oddly enough, was only supported by a ipse dixit statement asserted in a footnote to the motion (Appendix 6) that the Government relied exclusively and solely on Plaintiff's detailed verified Complaint which asserts extensive specific facts supporting each of the causes of action (Appendix No. 5). The Government did [not] submit a single foundational piece of evidence supporting any personal or other factual knowledge supporting the U.S. attorneys bias, prejudicial, and self-serving interest "opinion" contrary to the Verified Complaint - Affidavit. There literally is and was no factual basis for the attorney's opinion which is not evidence in any event sufficient to support a Motion for Summary Judgment (Appendix No. 6). The Court entered judgment on the motion, despite Petitioners' objections and requests for findings of fact and conclusions of law (Appendix No. 7). 9. On September 14, 1999, Petitioner filed a Motion for Reconsideration of the Court's Sept. 1, 1999 Order granting Summary Judgment and on September 30, 1999 filed Supplemental Points and Authorities in support of the motion. Petitioner strenuously urges the Supreme Court to carefully focus on the Supplemental (Appendix No. 7) as it goes into great detail as to not only the triable issues of fact, but Supreme Court case law which supports Petitioner's position previously dealt with by this Court involving the wide range of scientific and other electronic-force technologies used not only by the United States Government but others as well. See, Central Intelligence Agency v. John Cary Sims and Sidney M. Wolfe, 471 U.S. 159, 85 L.Ed. 2d 185 S.Ct. 1881 (1965) (Appendix Nos. 9 & 10). Petitioner abundantly laid out the avalanche of triable issues of material fact set forth in the verified Complaint which was exclusively relied upon by both the Petitioner and the Government (Appendix Nos. 5 and 6). Obviously, since the verified Complaint was of the personal knowledge of Petitioner Schlund and which was further supported by numerous affidavits (Appendix Nos. 5 7, 8, 9, 10 and 12) and the Government lacked all personal knowledge of every nature and kind whatsoever, and the U.S. Attorney's self-serving opinion which is not evidence by any stretch of the means, especially when only asserted in the two page motion as a conclusion (Appendix No. 6), the initial burden required under the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, Rule 56 was not satisfied; and no burden shifted to the Petitioner to overcome the motion as a matter of law (Appendix Nos. 3-5 and 7-12). On December 14, 1999, the District Court entered its Order denying Plaintiff's Motion for Reconsideration (Excerpt 2). 10. Because the Government relied exclusively on the verified Complaint (as did Petitioner), and failed to file a separate Statement of Facts required under F.R.C.P. Rule 52 and 56, Petitioner did not file a formal Opposition; and Petitioner relied on his pleading on grounds the Government did not assert any issues relevant or actually involved as asserted in the Petitioner's verified Complaint. Petitioner advised the court of this fact only for the purpose to explain that the Government did not file an answer to the verified Complaint, its Motion for Summary Judgment was based on facts not asserted in the verified Complaint but made up and fabricated by the Government ("mental telepathy", which was never pled), and the Petitioner had no controverting issues or arguments to its own verified pleading, solely relied upon by both the Government and the Petitioner. The Government did not file any opposition to Petitioner's Motion for Reconsideration on the issues (Appendix Nos. 3, 4, 5, and 7). 11. Petitioner filed his Notice of Appeal and Appellate Opening and Reply Briefs (Appendix Nos. 3 and 4). Petitioners filed an injunctive relief Notice and Motion for Order for Relief from Governmental Invasion of Privacy, Harassment and Torture of Petitioner Schlund on July 21, 2000 (Appendix Nos. 8 & 9) to stop the irreparable harm which was summarily denied (Appendix No. 8) on September 20, 2000. The Appellate Court then noticed the parties the court was ready for calendaring. The court continued failed and refused to render findings of fact and conclusions of law as specifically requested in the motion (Appendix Nos. 3-5 and 7-12). 12. Petitioners filed an Notice and Motion for Order for Clarification of Order of Denial of Plaintiff's Motion for Order for Relief on the grounds (1) the denial order did not specify the reasons for the denial adequate for appeal or review required under F.R.C.P. Rule 52 and 56, (2) the motion involved three distinct and independent reasons for the granting of such motion, relative to the different causes of action asserted by the separate Petitioner's positions on appeal on the merits, (3) the denial of the motion without specific reason leads to the awkward impression the court is intentionally disregarding the testimony under oath and ratifying the electronic torture of Petitioner Schlund, and (4) both Petitioners specifically requested findings of fact and conclusions of law in support of the motion for an adequate record for further review by special writ, which violated Petitioner's due process, resulting in prejudicial error by depriving the Petitioners an adequate record for appeal to the United States Supreme Court on the injunctive issues (Appendix No. 9). 13. Petitioner filed a Notice of Request for Oral Argument (Appendix No. 10), along with a Notice of Request for Disclosure of Case Classification (Appendix No. 11) related to the case under Federal Rules of Appellate Procedure, "Court Structure and Procedures," E [Court Procedures for Processing and Hearing of Cases] (1) Classification of Cases by Type, Issue, and Difficulty. Petitioners were concerned that the "weight of a case" is not merely an indication of the relative amount of judicial time that will probably be consumed in disposing of the appeal but the fact it is possibly a "pretext" under the Rule for the unconstitutional and improper "profiling" of a case selectively targeted for dismissal without any findings of fact and conclusions of law, such as here. All of the aforesaid were either (1) not responded to at all by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals or (2) summarily "denied" without the repeatedly requested findings of fact and conclusions of law under F.R.C.P. Rule 52. 14. Petitioners filed a Notice and Motion for (1) Order of Suspension of Motion Deadline and (2) Motion for Summary Judgment, or Alternatively, (3) Partial Adjudication of the Facts (Appendix No. 12), which was also summarily denied by the Appellate Court. 15. The verified Complaint specifically requested findings of fact and conclusions of law (Appendix No. 5 at p. 17, par. 5, lns, 3-5) and continuously requested such findings of fact and conclusions of law in every pleading and brief filed with the Trial and Appellate Court and has never been waived (Appendix Nos. 3-5 and 7-12). Despite these continuous written and repeated requests for findings of fact and conclusions of law, all have been rejected by the Trial and Appellate Court by simply failing and refusing to comply with F.R.C.P. Rules 43, 52(c), 56, 65, and Restatement 702. Petitioners have no adequate record for the Supreme Court to review per Supreme Court Rule 14(h)(i)(ii) and (vi).

REASONS FOR GRANTING THE PETITION As it stands, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has entered decisions in conflict with the decision of previous cases it decided by simply refusing to respond to the important issues raised in Petitioner's verified Complaint, Appellate Briefs and Motions (1) which are directly in conflict with United States Supreme Court decisions and other circuit courts on the same important matter; (2) the District Court and Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals failed to decide important federal questions of genuine issues of material fact based on constitutional and federal statutes prohibiting (a) invasion of privacy etc. and (b) torture of a citizen; and (3) the District Court and the Court of Appeals has so far departed from the accepted and usual course of judicial proceedings, or the Appellate Court sanctioned such a departure by the Central District Court as to now call for an exercise of this Court's discretion of its supervisory power to compel the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals to make findings of fact and conclusions of law for a proper appellate record, to allow Petitioners to exercise their due process rights pursuant to the Rules of the Supreme Court of the United States, Rule 14(1)(h)(i)(i)(ii) [This Rule specifically requests the Appendix contain the order indicating the "findings of fact and conclusions of law," whether written or orally given and transcribed, entered in conjunction with the judgment sought to be reviewed, and any other "findings of fact and conclusions of law" entered in the case.] Petitioner's due process rights have been effectively cut off by not having findings of fact and conclusions of law from which to present to the United States Supreme Court, despite they were repeatedly requested by Petitioners and never waived. Likewise, Petitioner specifically requests the Honorable United States Supreme Court for findings of fact and conclusions of law for purposes of this appeal as well. X. LEGAL ARGUMENTS A. The Court Erred in Interpreting The Supreme Court's Decision of Celotex Corp. V. Catrett And Failed to Make Findings of Fact And Conclusions of Law, Despite Petitioners Requested Such For Review on Appeal. This Supreme Court, in the Celotex Corp. v. Catrett, 477 U.S. 317, 106 S.Ct. 2548 (1986) court decision established the controlling standard and initial evidence shifting standard on Motions for Summary Judgment under F.R.C.P. Rule 56(c)..."The judgment sought shall be rendered forthwith if the pleadings....together with affidavits, if any, show there is no genuine issue as to any material fact; and the moving party is entitled to a judgment as a matter of law..." Under (e) [Form of Affidavits], "Supporting an opposing affidavit should be made on personal knowledge, shall set forth fact as would be admissible in evidence, and shall show affirmatively that the affiant is competent to testify to the matter stated therein. Sworn or certified copies of all papers or parts thereof referred to in an affidavit shall be attached thereto or served therewith...when a Motion for Summary Judgment is made and supported as provided in this Rule, an adverse party may not rest upon the mere allegations or denials of the adverse party's pleading, but the adverse party's response...must set forth specific facts showing there is a genuine issue for trial..." The form of affidavit exclusively relied upon by the Government was the exact same affidavit relied upon by Petitioners-a pleading-Petitioner's verified Complaint (Appendix Nos. 3, 4, and 5). Petitioners have personal knowledge of the facts stated in the verified Complaint, while the Government did not (Appendix No. 7). The Government did not satisfy the requirement under Rule 56(e), made and supported as provided in this Rule, an adverse party (Government) may not rest upon the mere allegations ... of the adverse [Government] party's pleading..." as the Government did here. Thus, the Government has the "initial" burden of filing their Motion for Summary Judgment, made and supported as provided in the Rule, which requires it cannot exclusively rest upon the mere allegations of Petitioner's verified Compliant (Affidavit) for doing so. The Government placed its lack of personal knowledge, lack of foundation, and nothing more than merely the ipse dixit (the Assistant Attorney General's personal opinion and conclusion), which is not evidence, leaving the Government in a position of not satisfying the initial burden under Rule 56(e) (Appendix Nos. 3, 4, and 5). The court's granting of the Motion for Summary Judgment, declaring there were no triable issues and material fact was prejudicial error, requiring reversal (Appendix No. 8). The District Court and the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, upholding the decision, placed the Celotex decision in direct conflict with the United States Supreme Court's decision in Matsushita Electric Industry Co. v. Zenith Radio Corp. 475 U.S. 574, 587 (1986), "The initial burden is with the movant to point to those portions of the record that demonstrate an absence of a genuine issue of material fact given the relevant substantive law." Also citing Thomas v. Wichita Coca Cola Bottling Co., 968 F.2d 1022 (10th Circ.) cert. denied, 506 U.S. 1013 (1992), which requires the court to view the evidence of the record and draw all reasonable inferences in the light most favorable to the non-movant (Petitioners). This Supreme Court established that when a party (Government) relies on only conclusionary allegations, it cannot defeat a properly supported Motion for Summary Judgment, nor can a party make a Motion for Summary Judgment relying on "conclusionary allegations," especially with nothing more than inadmissable attorney opinion and conclusions such as here. In other words, Petitioners filed a specific and detailed Motion for Summary Judgement in the Appellate Court (Appendix No. 12) requesting findings of fact and conclusions of law to compel the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals to establish a record for Petitioners supporting, in fact, there were no genuine material issues of fact raised in the verified Complaint pled on the personal knowledge of Petitioner Schlund, contrary to the mere attorney opinion filed in the District Court based on Celotex. Instead of flushing out the truth of what genuine issues of material fact did or did not exist, both the District Court and the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals failed and refused to issue findings of fact and conclusions of law, despite being repeatedly requested by Petitioners at every stage in the proceedings, which have never been waived (Appendix Nos. 3-12). Petitioners can only conclude the Honorable District Court, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals Court, simply did not know what to do in a perplexing situation in which both the Plaintiff and the Defendant move for Motions for Summary Judgment relying on exactly the same verified pleading, such as here (Appendix Nos. 5, 7, 8, and 12) [At the District Court level, the Government relied on Petitioner's verified pleading and moved for Summary Judgment on attorney's opinion; and Petitioner's move for Summary Judgement, at the Appellate level, on the same set of pleadings, requesting findings of fact and conclusions of law, at both stages of the proceedings both courts failed and refused to accommodate the request because of the reliance on this Court's Celotex decision and its previous Ninth Circuit's decisions, which have never dealt with this type of factual scenario. This case is a case of first impression, requiring the United States Supreme Court to exercise its discretion and use its supervisory powers so there is continuity in the application of its decisions concerning motions for summary judgement, such as here (Appendix Nos. 4, 8, and 12). B. The District Court Greatly Departed From The Accepted And Usual Course of Judicial Proceedings, Which The Appellate Court Ratified When it Accepted The Government's Fabrication of Fact to The Doran Case And Then Refused to Make Findings of Fact And Conclusions of Law, Requested by Petitioners, Requiring The Exercise of The United States Supreme Court Supervisory Power to Protect Petitioner's Constitutional Rights. The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals in Siderman De Blak v. Republic of Argentina, supra [Torture] and The United States v. Koyomejian, 946 F.2d 1450 (1991) [Gross Intrusion and Invasion of Privacy Through Sophisticated Electronic Tele-Communication Devices] should be interpreted together in support of Petitioner's Motion for Summary Judgement filed with the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals requesting findings of fact and conclusions of law on that issue, which it failed and refused to do (Appendix Nos. 3-12). The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has stated such technology does in fact exist, irrespective of whether its ignored by the lower court (Appendix No. 4). The Ninth Circuit Appellate Court clearly acknowledged the factual reality of the Government's gross misuses of "technology and devices" to violate innocent citizens privacy and "its" use of "torture" by the Government on its citizenry (Appendix Nos. 3 and 4). The United States Supreme Court in Anderson v. Liberty Lobby, Inc., 477 U.S. 242 (1986) again established, after its Celotex decision that "the evidence of the non-movant is to be believed, and all justifiable inferences are to be drawn in his favor." The Government's exclusive reliance on Petitioner's verified Complaint constitute a stipulation by the Government that the additional factual averments, along with all justifiable inferences, were to be drawn in favor of the Petitioner, not reached in the Government's partial Motion for Summary Judgment. The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals issued its grave concerns about the Government's use of such technology, the fact of its existence, and then failed and refused to issue Petitioner's findings of fact and conclusions of law as to whether such technology could actually be used to not only invade privacy but to be used more modernly to torture Petitioner Schlund, causing the injury and damages as pled in his verified Complaint (Appendix Nos. 3, 4, 5, 8, 9 and 12). Petitioner Schlund has continuously objected to various governmental departments, including but not limited to the DOJ and DEA, but also the courts concerning the torture of him, his witnesses, and his attorney and altering of evidence (Appendix No. 5). The Government did not file an Answer or any other document placing any of the allegations in the Verified Complaint in dispute. Instead it switched the fact, claiming Petitioners pled "mental telepathy" and cited the Doran v. McGinness case as controlling and moved for Summary Judgment, based on Celotex. Judge Broomfield failed to recuse himself, although no opposition was ever filed to Petitioner's Motion for Recusal then granted Summary Judgment and disregarded Petitioner's repeated request for findings of fact and conclusions of law on the basis of its decision (Appendix Nos. 3, 4, and 8-12). It ignored the facts stated on Petitioner Schlund's personal knowledge in his verified Complaint and affidavits in support and in opposition to the Summary Judgment, it accepted the Government's conclusionary opinions the Complaint alleged "mental telepathy" when it clearly did not, and it allowed the application of the Doran decision to control on "mental telepathy", where no such factual issues were raised in the verified Complaint or anywhere else by Petitioners. Thus, it grossly departed from the normal rules of procedure and fairness and allowed the creation of facts which didn't exist and attached controlling law which was not at issue to such facts and deliberately entered an order dismissing the action, depriving Petitioners of a right to a jury trial, which has also never been waived (Appendix No. 5, p. 1). Needless to say, such grave departure and ratification of same by the Appellate Court have the effect of ratifying not only torture, gross invasion of privacy, denial of a right of a jury trial through procedural gainsmanship, but also have resulted in gross impropriety and destruction of the appearance of justice so cherished by the honorable court system. Moreover, the gross departure by both the lower and Appellate Court of the United States Supreme Court's rules (Rule 14(h)(i)(ii) and (vi), federal law, and case law decisions against torture and other violations of constitutional right, including its Supreme Court rules for procedure for the lower courts to follow (F.R.C.P. 43, 52, 56 and 65), now necessitate the discretion of the Honorable United States Supreme Court to clarify for the lower courts such departures should not be tolerated at the cost of its citizenry and the dignitary powers of the United States Supreme Court's rules, case law, and the federal enactments and provide continuity again for the courts to follow. CONCLUSION The Petition for Writ of Certiorari should be granted. Petitioners request the Court to vacate the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals' decisions and order it to make findings of fact and conclusions of law for an adequate record for the Supreme Court's review if it becomes necessary in the interests of justice. Respectfully submitted,

Date Charles A. Schlund, III Petitioner in Pro Per

Date: Randy D. Lang Petitioner in Pro Per XII. CERTIFICATE OF COMPLIANCE

Petitioners Petition for Writ of Certiorari complies with Arizona Supreme Court Rules, Rules 10 et seq., where applicable as to form and content.

March 14, 2001 Date Randy D. Lang Petitioner In Pro Per XIII. NOTICE OF PROOF OF SERVICE

I, Randy D. Lang, the undersigned, certify and declare that I am over the age of 18 and reside in Maricopa County, State of Arizona. On March 14, 2000, I served by First Class Mail (40) copies of the Petition for Writ of Certiorari, and its Appendix, and two copies to all parties listed on the List of Parties named at the beginning of this document. I declare, under penalty of perjury, that the foregoing is true and correct to the best of my

knowledge.

Date: March 14, 2001 By Randy D. Lang, Declarant

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Date: Sun, 18-Mar-2001 22:34:04 GMT From: <Perpdetector@hotmail.com> Subject: Defeating "Mind-Control" Technology

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Date: Sun, 18-Mar-2001 23:04:47 GMT From: <Perpdetector@hotmail.com> Subject: Michael Sweeney's Radio comments: MC

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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 09:40:59 -0000 From: "Catcher of The Catcher in the Rye" <thefbiisthecatcherintherye@hotmail.com> Subject: 1992 October Surprise Info

Can ANYONE help me find the two newspaper articles which appeared in the the Los Angeles Times in 1991 :

#1) An minor item, which appeared somewhere between January 21, 1991 -May4, 1991, in the A-section. (More likely dates are March & April 1991) It was a one-paragraph article which stated that an East-German reporter had PRETENDED to be a foreign government and, under this pretext, had asked former members of the East-German STASI whether they would be willing to assassinate someone for One Million US Dollars. 80% of those who replied said they'd be willing to do it but instead the reporter published the results of his survey as an article in East-Germany which caused a minor scandal.

#2) The headline, "ISRAEL VOWS (or RESERVES THE RIGHT) TO RETALIATE", which in the days following Saddam Hussein's bombing went around the planet. You only have to check the FRONT PAGE of the Los Angeles Times, during the period of January 18, 1991 - January 24, 1991.

Item #1 has dissaperared from the microfilm record, so UNLESS you got HARDCOPIES going all the way back to 1991, there is little chance you'd find it.

Itm #2) may have dissapeared from the microfilm record, though I'm not 100% sure. It certainly dissapeared from the microfilm record of a library I checkeed near London in 1995. ------------------------------------------- And , if anyone has access to ABC's WORLD NEWS TONIGHT :

#a) The report by Peter Jennings, broadcasted on ABC's WORLD NEWS TONIGHT a few days AFTER the Gulf War, either on February 28, 1991 or in March 1991, (but possibly as late as April 1991) that "the first people to enter Iraq after the Gulf War were German businessmen seeking contracts to rebuild Iraq".

#b) The announcement former President George Bush (Senior) made on December 29, 1992 or on December 30, 1992 (the MOST LIKELY DATE is December 29, 1992) on ABC's World News Tonight with Peter Jennings that "something unexspected has come up and he would have to meet with French President Francois Mitterand rightaway". ---------------------------------------------------

All these ITEMS have DISSAPEARED from the record where they are normally preserved on. In other words, the Los Angeles Times articles are not preserved on microfilm and the ABC News items can no longer be found in the news computers at ABC, so check your PRIVATE records, I will explain more later. (This info is related to George Bush's 1992 "October Surprise" which I prevented)

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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 11:59:45 -0000 From: "Maureen Norman" <m.a.norman@ntlworld.com> Subject: Feedback On The Torture Trade

FEEDBACK ON "THE TORTURE TRADE" My recent feature, "The Torture Trade", has generated some great reader responses. The feature was based on a new report from Amnesty International that describes the growing trade in the tools of torture between companies and countries. According to the report, the US is the industry leader in this field -- more than 80 US companies are involved in the manufacture, marketing and export of this type of equipment. Read all about it. http://humanrights.about.com/library/weekly/aa031801a.htm

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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 06:51:25 -0600 From: "R. Nelson" <protogod@swbell.net> Subject: RE: Diesel-electric traction locomotives

First, I wish to apologize to the HTML postings. I have Outlook Express set for plain text to newsgroups, but posting to the lsit uses e-mail, and I had that set for HTML.

Second, I wish to apologize for the flames. I receieved the reply message in my mailbox, replied to it, but I thought it was a private reply, not a general reply to the entire list. I admit that I flamed, but I did not realize that the flame would be posted to the list; I only saw the sender's return e-mail, with no cc: or bcc:, so I thought the reply was not going to be posted to the list.:

>Greetings, >No offense, but

An obvious troll

>In the state of Colorado alone, over 60% of all trackage >right of ways are in excess of 3%, which is a considderable >grade for a mile long coal train. >In the state of Utah this number goes up to 81%. >And this is only 2 of the Rocky Mountain States. >From California, to the Plains there are far to many >Steep Grades to mention here.

An obvious troll: conveniently left out is the fact that steam locomotives used to pull long coal trains up these very same grades.

>As for your comments above about there being only a >small or limited number of "Steep Grades" is also >not correct.

Which is easily perceived as a flame or a troll, since the definitation of 'a steep grade' is entirely arbitrary.

I could be wrong, but 80 percent appears from my perspective to be a troll, because I have it from three different very respectable authorities that 66 percent is the most that is possible, and this was fact, not theory, which could be mathematically proven. However, this contacts were made from 1986 to 1990, and perhaps there was some flaw in the accepted proof that did not get discovered until a later date.

Obviously, it was a troll to begin with, since even if diesel-electrics had acheived an 80 percent effciency, someone who claims to be well-versed knows that the efficiency of steam is much better than 80 percent. Therefore, it was a general attack upon my credibity without a defendable proof, which is a troll or a flame in and of itself.

Perhaps the troll came from an assumption that I beleive that the infrasound produced by diesel-electric locomotives is an intentional design purpose; I do not: I merely mentioned what I did as an interesting sidebar article. At any rate, it appeared to be a private reply, and I assumed that my reply would be private as well, and not posted to the group.

Its been a while since I dealt with a BBS or newsgroups, so I will fall back to past experience in such matters: put my faith in normal people who are attending the group having the required background and experience to identify trolls and disinformation, and simply ignore the trolls. As for this issue, this is a fairly off-topic issue to begin with, this is the last I have to say about it.

For the list moderator: I apologize again for the flame: if I ever feel the need again, based on a private message that I receive, I will copy the user's name and send the reply as an original e-mail, to be certain that my reply goes only to the sender, and not the entire list. It is good that list is policed so well, but please remember to attempt to police the trolls as well.

I can usually be found on dalnet or undernet in the #[FekLar] room

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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 09:05:30 -0600 From: "R. Nelson" <protogod@swbell.net> Subject: Trolls and Flames

I received some more troll flames in my mailbox again, and true to my word, I am ignoring the waste of electricity.

I will post one more word on the subject of trolls and flames in general, and then let the matter rest:

http://home.swbell.net/protogod

http://protogod.exit.de

Rob's Spiritual Servitude Page, which indicates both wisdom and non-wisdom: not for the meek. WARNING: those pages contain profanity, so don't visit them if you would find that offensive.

Those of you who do have the *iron* to face those pages, it is an interesting case study, perhaps THE most interesting case study ever produced, in the effects of attempted mind control, relating my experiences with lame religious scam running Soviets trying to involve me in one of their lamer religious scams they tried pulling in the USA, and why they know better then to try to pull that with me again, or in general with anyone, for that matter. The material regarding the consequences of the Russians having made the serious error of ever breaching the subject is also given plenty of coverage.

tv.htm and hit.htm give the best details, although there are other references made in bn.htm and /hmp/hmp/htm.

The Russians pull this right under the noses of the U.S. government, even afer repeated attempts to bring it to the attention of the government, and the government is too dense to be able to see it: I had to deal with the problem myself, and when I say it got dealt with, that is an understatement. I'm undoubtedly not finished dealing with it.

I don't expect moronic trolls or morons in general to be able to follow it, but for the rest of you, you will find it a highly entertaining treatise on the fate of lamers that make the mistake of attempting to use mind control deives, and certain other immensely foolish activities.

You normal people should stick to minn.htm and all of its subpages before moving on to losers.htm (the spiritual servitude page). Trolls on the other hand should start with losers.htm , then move to minn.htm . (I charge a penalty for trolling, and it isnt cheap)

After everyone reads it all, we ought to take a poll. All of the trolls will say that I am entirely mistaken regarding the content of those pages, where everyone else will profess that there is no doubt that I am correct, with knowing smiles on their faces.

Some truly bizarre subject material is presented in some places, but there is fact and evidence that backs all of it up. The more of it you normal people read, the more obvious it will become that this is a case of strange, but true. If there is some credibility problem, I would suggest that you start with tv.htm , hit.htm , and then go back and try minn.htm again.

I can usually be found on dalnet or undernet in the #[FekLar] room

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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 10:27:35 -0600 From: "R. Nelson" <protogod@swbell.net> Subject: For Troll identification purposes

Maybe this will serve to weed trolls out of this list:

If what were said were true about a generator or motor that was proven to convert at 80 percent efficiency, rather than the 66 percent efficiency than had been (and likely still is) acepted as the mathematically proven maximum efficiency in any motor or generator, the following fact still remains, and yet was noticible by its absence in the detractor's post who attacked my credibility:

Any diesel engine automatically wastes 20 percent of its input energy potential as heat: Trolls can verify this by running an engine for 30 minutes, and then standing over the radiator cap and removing it. Hold your head real close to the cap so that you can see the result. Normal people can verify this by waiting 20 minutes, then placing their hand over the radiator.

Don't post about the high efficiency of the internal combustion home heat furnace: that is a heat production device, not a power production device. In terms of heat production, its verified claims of better than 99 percent efficiency are true, but this is for heat production, not mechanical energy production. Any diesel or internal combustion engine wastes about 20 percent of the burned fuel as exhaust heat and radiated heat.

Let's theorize, and say that a motor and a generator did exist that were both capable of acheiving an efficiency of 80 percent. The first conversion, from fuel to mechanical power is 80 percent efficient. The conversion from mechanical energy to electricity would be 80 percent. The conversion back to mechanical energy would be 80 percent. 80 percent times 80 percent times 80 percent equals a total fuel efficiency of a mere 51 percent (.8*.8*.8=0.512). The 'hypotehetical locomotive' that could attain fuel efficiency of 80 percent would have to contain motors and generators that were 100 percent efficient, because there is always a unused heat energy loss of 20 percent. I would suggest that you walk up on top of an operating diesel-electric lcomotive, and stand directly on top of one of the heat exhaust fan grates, to gain a true appreciation of the amount of wasted heat.

What was contained in that post that claimed the existence of a locomotive that had a total fuel efficiency of 80 percent was outright disinformation.

The correct information is 80 percent * 66 percent * 66 percent, or a grand total of a 35 percent fuel efficiency, under perfect operating conditions. (.8*.66*.66=0.34848) If what I say is true, then the total fuel efficiency of a diesel-electric locomotive is 35 percent. If what the detractor posted were true, then the total fuel efficiency of a diesel-electric locomotive is 51 percent.

A steam engine, that converts the fuel directly to heat, with very little heat loss, and converts the heat directly to mechanical energy, at a better than 99 percent efficieny, will run at better than 90 percent total fuel efficiency, under normal operating conditions. If what I say is correct, then the railroads are paying three times as much for fuel as they really need to pay. If what the detractor said were true, then the railroads are paying twice as much for fuel as they really need to pay.

As for the safety of passenger rail, or safety in general, a flatcar can be carried directly behind the locomotives, (with an aerodynamic cover), carrying 8 small CNG (compressed natural gas) tanks, arranged four to each side, with pressure sensitive valves that close if a fuel line break should occur. Upon an impact (collision or derailment), the tanks would detach and go flying off away from the train in random directions. Housing technologies exist that can produce containment strong enough to house a small nuclear reactor within a 747, capable of withstanding a midair collision with another plane at 25,000 feet, followed by a 25,000 foot fall to a concrete parking lot with no containment breach, and no loss of radioactivity whatsoever. Search the internet for honeycombed aluminum and honeycomb construction steel containment vessels. Obviosuly, for safety reasons, you wouldn't simply place a natural gas tank car between AMTRAK natural gas powered steam locomotives and the passenger cars.

While I should have read the rules better and refrained from flaming, all of the above facts can be verified, and many are common knowedge, therefore that the reply was a troll and an effort to attack my credibility are self-evident. I apologize again for the flaming, regardless of that it was deserved.

I know what I know about railroads. In 1984, I invented a technology that automatically prevents head on train collisions, which the railroads installed in 1987. This is why you haven't heard of a head on train collision since 1987. http://protogod.exit.de/rrcontrib.htm , or go to http://home.swbell.net/protogod and wait until you are redirected to my server, then type in rrcontrib.htm , or click on the skull and scroll down to the railroad contribution (my contribution to date)

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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 09:03:32 -0800 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> Subject: List replies

protogod@swbell.net said:

> Second, I wish to apologize for the flames. I receieved the reply > message in my mailbox, replied to it, but I thought it was a private reply, >not a general reply to the entire list.

The MC list is set up so that replies automatically go to the sender, rather than to the list, as you can verify by examining the full header. Normally, email software sets the "To" when replying to the "Reply-To" that the list sends (for example: Reply-To: protogod@swbell.net). You might see if there's a setting in your Outlook Express to correct the use of "Reply-To" or else switch to another email program.

> An obvious troll

What do you mean by "troll"? The usage on the Net I'm familiar with refers to list spying.

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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 09:09:47 -0800 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> Subject: RE: [MC] For Troll identification purposes

Railroads are off-topic on this list unless you're discussing infrasound or some other aspect related to the list focus.

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Date: Mon, 19-Mar-2001 23:12:05 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: MC Picket

Got a call today from a friend that someone was seen out in front of McMaster University (on the other side of town from Me) picketing with sign that said something about MC. We went down to find them and join in, but had a bunch of car trouble on the way, so we never made it.

JV

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Date: Mon, 19-Mar-2001 23:17:20 GMT From: <ecotoday@aol.com> Subject: MILABS ( MILITARY MIND CONTROL AND ALIEN ABDUCTION. )

from surfingtheapocalypse.com:

MILABS ( MILITARY MIND CONTROL AND ALIEN ABDUCTION. ) (AN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT ASPECT OF TODAY'S UFOLOGY.) http://www.thelosthaven.co.uk/Milabs.html An Article By Malcolm Robinson. (SPI England)

UFOlogy today, is a mish mash of many weird and wonderful ideas, speculations and theories abound like there is no tomorrow and one wonders can this subject get any more fanciful !! Admittedly we should not forget that speculation is fine so long as it is constructive and is done with the sole purpose of finding some answers. UFOlogy has seen many books all portraying our subject with these differing ideas. Some authors would have us believe that we are being visited by 'beings' from Zeta Reticuli, whilst others would have us believing that we are being visited by Time Travellers, Parallel Universal 'beings' or whatever, the list is extensive. One things for sure, there is no denying that we have a UFO presence, that much we can say, but a presence is one thing determining what that presence can be, is another.

I am in total agreeance with researchers wearing as many 'hats' as possible and opening as many UFOlogical doors as possible, the truth of the matter is within all these avenues of possibilities an answer must lie somewhere it's just a case of finding it. I am in the fortunate position of being sent many UFO and paranormal books by publishing houses to review and recently I was sent a copy of a book which absolutely blew me away !!! Why ! well because it was so new, and was so shockingly important to the subject of UFOlogy that it just screamed out to be read by UFOlogists and sceptics alike. The book is entitled MILABS, subtitled (Military Mind Control And Alien Abduction) and is written by Dr Helmut Lammer and his wife Marion Lammer. It is my opinion, that this book holds a very big piece of the UFO puzzle and I hope that through this article I can at the very least, share some of the salient points with you. Of course for a more overall view of the book, one must purchase a copy oneself, but take it from me, it will be the best money you will have parted with for some time. Dr Lammer has a Ph.D in geophysics and works at the Austrian Space Research Institute as a planetary scientist. He has published many scientific papers in prestigious scientific journals such as Journal Of Geophysical Research, Geophysical Research Letters, and Planetary and Space Science. Dr Lammer is a member of the European Geophysical Society (EGS) and the New York Academy of Sciences. In his spare time, he writes for numerous UFO magazines and is the Austrian representative for the American society, The Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) and is also an associate member of the Society for Scientific Exploration (SSE). Marion Lammer studies law at the University of Graz, Austria, has a lifetime interest in Fortean phenomena and has helped her husband with his studies in his MILAB research. O.K. let's take a look at what Helmut and Marion Lammer have to say.

MILABS, A STUDY OF UFOLOGICAL IMPORTANCE. THE MILITARY KIDNAPPING OF ALIEN ABDUCTEES.

The main thrust of the Lammer's book is to inform us that 'not all is as it seems' ! We are informed that many UFO abductions are the result of Military personnel, men in business suits, or men in white lab coats each who are abducting individuals either 'to'

(a) To obtain as much information from the abductee as to what Transpired during their abduction i.e., to obtain any 'technology Or advanced information as they possible can which could Potentially be used by their country (America) to advance their Own technology from the 'abducters' OR

(b) The American Government 'agencies' are themselves imprinting false and misleading information into the minds of the unsuspecting public to further the cause/belief that UFO abductions/aliens are a reality, this is to steer the public's belief away from what really is going on, i.e., a new Stealth technology or advanced black budget technology to which they, (the Americans) do not wish the public to learn about, and they are more than happy for this technology to be camouflaged under the guise of 'alien abductions'.

Now, as we progress, both the above categories play an important role in the understanding of the MILAB scenario and it is my hope to paint a presentation of facts which you the reader can judge for yourself. So let us now continue on with what the Lammer's have to say about the above and I ask that you keep an open mind and try and grasp the importance of what this article is all about.

Now, what we have to bear in mind, and what is a proven fact, is that numerous UFO abductees not only report seeing small grey 'beings' during their abduction, but they have also told researchers the world over that they have also been 'interrogated' by what appear to be 'humans' who not only threaten them but implant devices into their head which cause them much distress. They describe being taken to Military Hangers in which strange UFO like craft are housed. For instance, Brenda a Canadian UFO abductee, explains that she was abducted and taken to a Military Hanger where she was met by two 'men' in white coats who interrogated her for a period of time. This proved most distressing to her more so because these men used chloroform to knock her out. The main thing is though, she claimed to have seen advanced disc shaped objects in this 'facility' similar, it is said (by the author) to advanced disc shaped objects that are apparently being developed at Lockheed'' Hellendale underground research facility near Palmdale in southern California.

Another MILAB abductee, Melinda Leslie has also experienced both alien and Military abductions. One of which occurred at an aerospace facility in southern California near Lancaster. Not only did she witness men in Navy uniform during her abduction, whilst she was being examined by small grey 'beings' but she also claims to have seen a strange triangle shaped craft in a large hanger, and also a dark unmarked helicopter. Melinda remembers being forced to sit in a chair where she was forcibly given a strange drink and had a syringe inserted into her arm by a human in a lab coat. She was then asked repeatedly by a red haired Military officer to tell them all about her 'alien' experiences and that he wanted information about the 'aliens' technology. Leah Haley one of America's more noted UFO abductees, also talks about being taken by a helicopter to a Military base where she was interrogated by 'humans' in regards to her 'alien' experiences. She also states that she was given a shot in her arm and asked repeated questions by Military officers to tell them all about the 'aliens' technology.

These are but a few of the many references that are made by the author in regards to individuals being forcibly taken by Military people in order to try and extract some details to better the minimal knowledge of the Military chiefs. We are also told that the husband of the late Dr Karla Turner (a noted UFO researcher) also recalls an abduction in which he too was forcibly taken by Military personnel to an underground facility where he too was drugged and repeatedly asked all about the 'aliens' technology. Although some of these UFO abductions in regards to Military precenses being seen on board strange looking objects have been reported elsewhere, it has only been tentatively as if the authors of previous UFO books really didn't know what to do or make with them. I would probably say that some, if not a lot of other UFO authors, have in point of fact, kept these vital facts away from their readers not knowing whether there were any truth in them or moreover, it may well spoil the thrust of the book they were writing. Thankfully these stories are now surfacing. Karla Turner referred to them numerous times and told many people that we should start to sit up and take notice of these accounts, Dr Lammer states, "The presence of human Military and/or civilian personnel inhabiting the same physical reality as the alien beings exceeds the mindsets of the sceptics and the open minded researchers by several orders of magnitude.

A more truer statement has never been said. Dr Scott Jones believes that it's quite possible that the Military machines interest in UFO abductees may well be due to them (the Military) gaining important ground as to developing brain implants, virtual reality implants, holographic image projection and cloaking devices but more so for genetic research. This all sounds incredible and seems like something out of Star Trek or Deep Space Nine, but the facts are, that more and more UFO abductees are coming forward with stories of not only meeting up with 'aliens' but seeing and being interrogated by their fellow human beings. Of course as things stand, this would all appear to be hidden from the U.S. Congress and may be masked under the secret 'black budget' projects. During the 1980's, a lot of money we are told, was being used for top secret Military projects, the major one being for (SDI) Strategic Defence Initiative. It's not that hard to imagine, that a certain percent of the black budget programme, went towards the procedure of finding, locating, abducting and interrogating helpless UFO abductees to try and elicit from them, what the 'aliens' were up to. Now this all presupposes that we 'have' an alien presence, and this is what makes this book so darned important. The evidence contained within this book, clearly shows that there is indeed, without any shadow of a doubt, an alien presence on this planet who's programme is decidedly targeted towards a genetic programme of sorts. Let us now take a look at some of the other important issues contained within this book.

CONTROLLED EXPERIMENTS ON HUMANS WITHOUT CONSENT, AN INFRINGEMENT OF HUMAN RIGHTS.

The Lammers present the reader with case after case of experimentation by the people we have been led to trust, Military chiefs on not only the people of the United States, but on citizens of Canada and other countries. These experiments from many years ago, were nothing to do with UFOs or the search to understand alien technology, it was to find out various things about what the human individual could endure. Covert operations have been deployed on countless thousands of people for many years, even our own Ministry of Defence has carried out secret radiation experiments on humans during the past 40 years. In America, nerve gas, LSD, and various biological agents were used on people without their permission. We often talk about the atrocities that the German Army committed during the second world war, the experimentation on the Jews both children and adults, filled us with horror, and to think that the people we elected to serve and protect us are still experimenting on our minds and bodies of citizens today should make everyone everywhere stand up and protest from the highest tower. Whilst I appreciate that mankind must learn what biochemical agents can do to someone, to use it on people without their consent is immoral. Dr Lammer tells us that horrific psychological experiments were conducted on American soldiers at Edgewood Arsenal Maryland, eight former Nazi scientists worked at Edgewood for the Americans between 1947 to 1966 developing and testing lethal nerve gas and psycho chemicals on humans. Dr Ewen Cameron led a CIA funded laboratory at McGill University during the 1950's where people were used as guinea pigs for brainwashing experiments. People were given huge amounts of hallucinogens, some were given electro-convulsive therapy, and others were subjected to sensory deprivation. More importantly, Dr Lammer tells us that a panel appointed by the Clinton administration in 1994 to look into these matters, found that four hundred documented Government backed bio-medical experiments involving humans were undertaken between the years of 1944 and 1975.

How much more has gone on that we don't know about ! I'm sure we'll never really know. Mind control victim Claudia Mullen testified before the advisory Committee on Human Radiation Experiments in Washington D.C. during March 1995 where she explained that she was taken by Military people over a course of many years, and subjected against her will, in experiments concerning Chemicals, radiation, drugs, hypnosis, electric shock, sleep deprivation and even sexual abuse ! Another witness, Delora, recalls that he father who was a career Navy Officer, was stationed at an ammunition depot in Shoemaker Arkansas, and during those early years whilst he was stationed there she remembers flashbacks of being with both her parents inside a Military bunker where she saw 'aliens' performing experiments on humans. Delora knew that this bunker housed chemical and biological weapons which may have been an interest to these 'aliens'. She also claims to have seen a number of humans suspended in gas or liquid filled capsules. Delora holds the opinion that those people that were contained inside these capsules were clones and being used for secret bio-warfare or chemical warfare experiments. American UFO researcher Dan Wright who is head of the MUFON abduction Transcription Project has a number of records on file which detail this description of humans being witnessed in large tubes or containers, some of his cases, feature humans who somehow had to 'breathe' the strange liquid that was found inside these containers. This puts me in mind of the famous Scottish A70 UFO Abduction, where one of the two witnesses, Colin Wright, found himself enclosed in a large glass or Perspex container. He was naked and was strapped to a chair when suddenly this glass or Perspex started to frost up. Colin doesn't recall the container being filled with any fluid, but certainly recalls the situation very vividly and with a certain amount of fear.

The Lammer's explain that this concept about 'fluid breathing' more or less began in the mid 1960's when a certain Dr J. Kylstra, a physiologist at the state University of New York at Buffalo, found that salt solutions could be saturated with oxygen at high pressures. He went on to perform experiments with mice and was able to keep them alive for 18 hours, however, his eventual use of this practice did not work when he applied it to humans ! Other researcher's began to take an interest in the work of Dr Kylstra and a number of people began their own experiments (mostly on mice). We learn that the early 1990's proved successful, scientists kept dogs alive for around 2 hours in a perfluorocarbon container. After removal, the dogs were apparently hypoxic but returned to normal after a few days. UFOlogists will of course recall another famous American UFO witness by the name of Betty Andreasson. Betty claimed that she was placed inside a large tube filled with liquid of which she was told was to cushion the large force of the gravity during the UFO's acceleration. The Lammers also go on to explain that during the 1960's a Dr Robert Goodwin experimented with human embryos by keeping them alive in artificial womb like steel containers. However, pressure applied by the scientific community and also members of the public forced him to abandon these experiments. Clearly then this business with UFO abductees reporting tubes and containers which hold some form of liquid and which they have either been placed in there themselves, or have seen others in there, is something which is a major part of the UFO abduction phenomenon. But of course why ! What real purpose does these containers hold ? Is it as was told to Betty Andreasson 'to cushion the G forces of acceleration', or does it hold a more sinister purpose ! Is it really for the benefit of the UFO abductee !! It's frustrating that as we approach the Millennium, we are no further forward in answering these and other questions, than we were when the modern era of UFOlogy first began.

One might say however, that we do have the answers, and those answers are all to do with the genetic interbreeding programme that seems to be part and parcel of the make up of the 'aliens' agenda. They may be modifying the genetic make up of humans for their own purposes, introducing their own DNA to create some kind of hybrid species, a species which will be adaptive in all environments which can stand high pressures, breathe liquid with ease etc. However, and I've said and written about this many times before, why oh why is this abduction procedure 'still occurring' ! Haven't they (the aliens) got enough genetic material by now ! They have been abducting the people of this planet for nigh on 50 years if not more, and here at the close of the century, they are still taking people from their homes and environments and subjecting them to clinical and medical procedures without consent. As a researcher, this angers me as I'm sure it does to most people, but more so because, if there truly is any truth to what these UFO abductees are telling us, i.e., that the Military chiefs of this world know what's going on, and are assisting in this, then this is the biggest deception, this is the biggest lie, and this is the biggest shock. As human beings, we expect those in power to look after us and to think that those we elected to serve us can betray us in this way, well it just beggars belief.

The Lammers present case after case after case, of factual data which informs us that the Governments of this world have not been treating their citizens with any respect, far from it, they are abusing our trust, abducting us for medical procedures which can cause lasting harm if not death, all in the name of science. We quite rightly concern ourselves about the plight of the animal kingdom, it's also about time that we should equally be concerned about the plight of humans as well ! During the Cold war scientists were using mind control on helpless victims by inserting devices up their nostrils in order to control them, a procedure all to reminiscent of alien abductions. In the authors studies, they soon came to realize that there were around 3, 'human' agendas associated with the 'alien abduction' scenario. They found that one group of humans were interested in UFO abductees purely for mind and behaviour projects, sensory deprivation and liquid breathing experiments. Another group were interested in biological and genetic experiments, indeed a number of MILAB abductees, clearly recall seeing other human beings enclosed in tubes filled with liquid, they also tell of seeing genetically altered animals ! All these were witnessed in Military Underground research facilities. A third group the authors explain, are solely interested in the actual alien abduction phenomenon itself, purely for information gathering purposes.

Dark unmarked helicopters, have been a growing trend within the confines of UFOlogy of late. A large number of UFO witnesses (but more so UFO abductees,) claim that their lives have been subjected to harassment by low flying unmarked helicopters that have buzzed their homes morning afternoon and night, and when they complain to the local or national airports, no one can provide them with an answer a to where or who they belong to !!! Debbie Jordan, Budd Hopkins star UFO abductee, claims that her life has been a misery since she had her UFO abduction, for since that time many large dark unmarked helicopters have stalked both her and her family. Debbie was quoted as saying. "Even when I am outside and obviously watching back, it doesn't seem to bother them, they just sit there in mid air about 60 to 90 feet above the ground whirling and watching. They are completely without identification and are always low enough so that I could easily see the pilot if the windshield were clear glass. But the windshield is smoky black, and with a finish that makes it impossible to see who's inside".

What I, as the author of this article finds hard to believe, is that this form of harassment is necessary !! For surely the pilots of these helicopters are drawing much attention to themselves by doing this ! If they are so interested in these unfortunate UFO abductees, then this form of behaviour surely shouldn't happen and could be done in their usual 'covert' way. Of course we can't forget the fact that these black unmarked helicopters, have been seen many times over the pastures in which cattle mutilations have been found, and more recently, dark unmarked helicopters have been witnessed flying above the wheat fields of England where many strange crop circle formations have been found. Clearly then, there is great interest by these shady 'agencies' in the lives of the UFO abductees, and the crop formations in Southern England, not forgetting the obscene and tragic animal mutilations that have been discovered in unusual circumstances with each passing year. In their book, the Lammers present many cases where dark unmarked helicopters have made the lives a misery of many a UFO abductee.

WORKING IN HARMONY !!!!!

Probably the most important aspect and significant if not disturbing part of the Lammers book, is their presentation of facts which clearly show that certain American Government 'agencies' have been working side by side with the 'greys' for a good number of years now. This aspect of UFOlogy, has of course been speculated on by many UFOlogists for a number of years now. And this is why perhaps UFOlogists and the general public at large never obtain a statement of sorts from the American Government admitting what's going on. They 'know' what's going on, 'they' are part of it. The abduction of humans from this planet is part orchestrated by the Military chiefs of this Earth in order to obtain information from these visiting 'intruders' which may further and advance the cause of potential warfare capabilities of those who learn the secrets first of people from other worlds.

The above of course sounds incredibly fanciful and full of speculation, but can there be any real truth in this ! The Lammers again present an incredible amount of information to say that this is so. The MILABS book will clearly change your perception about what UFOlogy is all about, it certainly changed mine. I was sent this book to review, believe you me, it's impossible to review a book of such a proportion in so little words, hence I chose to do a slightly more worded version, and even so, this will not do it justice. At the end of the day, where would UFOlogy be without the sterling work of a number of UFOlogists like the Lammers and the late Karla Turner who are bringing these Military/Alien cases to our attention.

TERRESTRIAL & EXTRATERRESTRIAL IMPLANTS !!

The finding of implants in the bodies of UFO abductees is a well known factor in UFOlogy. Strange small metallic devices some round, some small and slim, have been found in the nasal cavities in abductees, and also other parts of their bodies as well (sometimes even their big toes !!) Why would a sophisticated intelligent race of beings want to track and monitor a person in this way is beyond this writer's comprehension. If they (the aliens !) can ghost into someone's bedroom and abduct someone of an evening, it seems unusual that they would need to know where people are, or do these devices perform some other kind of function ? The Lammers present the reader of the MILABS book with an in-depth look at the implant phenomenon. They tell us that the Military have been implanting electrodes into the bodies of unwitting subjects as early as 50 years ago and some horrific tales can be found in this book. I present the following paragraph (with permission) to illustrate the point.

During the 50's and early 60's, neuro scientist Dr Jose Delgado invented the stimoceiver, an electrode capable of receiving and transmitting electronic signals via FM radio waves. Such a device, implanted in the brain via the sinus cavities, will act as a powerful stimulant when activated by FM radio waves. One can speculate, that the stimoceiver has since been modified to receive stimulation from microwave pulses, and is capable of wielding a great degree of control over the implanted victim's response mechanisms.

We then learn that this implant technology was developed after World War 11 and by now, as we approach the millennium, I'm more than sure that this technology has superseded it's expectations. The Lammers speculate that the Military Intelligence community are or have more than likely been using this technology for secret Government projects, some of the photographic plates contained within this book, clearly show the implants on the X Ray skulls of various individuals. The Lammers uncovered a pre classified 1960's Government document pertaining to a secret project called MKULTRA which clearly showed that the CIA was interested in expanding implant studies onto humans, they speculate, could the various Military Agencies that implant various humans, be using the 'alien' cover story to mask their own clandestine endeavours ? This is entirely feasible and may account for a high percent of abductions the world over. This is not to say, that the actual 'alien' abduction phenomena is not real, it may well be, but we have to consider the fact, that the Military Chiefs would be more than happy to use the 'alien' abduction cover story in order for the public at large to be kept in the dark about their secret and unsavoury actions.

Of course there is another way to look at the implant phenomenon, and that is that the Military Chiefs may be inserting these implant devices, to monitor the 'real' UFO abductees respiration, muscle tension and physiological data. There is no denying the evidence by UFO abductees, when they say that they have witnessed Military personnel, either on board a strange craft, or in an underground cavern whilst they have been 'operated' on by 'beings' which are clearly not human. Admittedly implant technology has it's medical benefits, (for a whole range of reasons) one can safely say that a pacemaker is one of the biggest implants that we have in the human body which serves a very useful purpose, but what we are talking about here is entirely different. We are talking about the implanting of devices (without consent) into the bodies of terrified victims by humans and 'non humans' alike. The one main aspect of the Lammer's book, is the continued reference to the fact that many UFO abductees are taken to underground facilities where they see both humans and 'non humans' alike. They (the UFO abductees) also witness strange disc shaped craft, large dark unmarked helicopters. They are interrogated by Military personnel, sometimes viciously and with mind bending drugs, all in a desired attempt to find out from these poor unfortunate abductees, what the 'aliens' have told them. I found the following paragraph quite illuminating in regards to the overall theme of the Lammer's book.

"Perhaps the Military split the personality of some abductees with known mind control techniques like sensory deprivation, spin programming, flashlights, electric shocks, rape, in order to create 'Manchurian Candidates' for information gathering purposes during alien abduction experiences".

The Lammers then pose 2 interesting questions to the reader.

1. Are MILAB abductees Military programmed 'Manchurian Candidates' who spy for a secret Military task force in alleged 'alien crafts' ? Are they so called 'Trojan Horses' inside 'real' UFOs during an alien abduction experience ? OR

2. Is their alien abduction experience a synthetically programmed screen memory for hiding secret spy or Military missions ?

What we can deduce from all this, is that the Military people are clearly involved and very much concerned about the alien abduction phenomenon as they have been for decades now. The CIA FBI and NSA, have in the past denied their involvement in the UFO study, but thankfully under the Freedom of Information Act passed several years ago now, it was plain to see from the documentation released, that the above agencies were indeed, very much involved with what's going on, and are surely now 'still so' ! In closing this article, I must say that I am deeply concerned about not so much the threat from the 'non humans' in all this, (although that is still a concern) but the threat and deceit from those people of whom we elected to serve and protect us. They are abusing their trust, they are abusing their positions to learn what is going on, but ultimately they have now become a 'big part' themselves in the UFO problem. It seems inconceivable that we have a situation such as this, it's like something you would find in a 1950's B movie or back street American comic shop, but this is 'real', this is 'happening', and it's happening now. I think we should be deeply concerned about what's going on, this is a crime against humanity. But like any crime, we require proof, and this subject is so bizarre that the stories told to us by these unfortunate UFO abductees may not be believed, but slowly we are turning the screw, this monumental book has untold possibilities for the community, no longer are we talking about strange lights in the sky, we are now on the threshold of an alarming twist in the UFO enigma, a twist that is unsavoury and demands action. It's bad enough having to deal with UFO abductions at all, but to have the Military involved (who deny everything) just begs for action to be taken.

Article continues at: http://www.thelosthaven.co.uk/Milabs.html ==== EcoNews Service http://www.ecologynews.com

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Date: Mon, 19-Mar-2001 23:25:38 GMT From: James R. Rose <eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: MC Picket

John Vincent wrote: > Got a call today from a friend that someone was seen out in front of > McMaster University (on the other side of town from Me) picketing with > sign that said something about MC. We went down to find them and join > in, but had a bunch of car trouble on the way, so we never made it. > > JV

Isn't it the truth. Have been experiencing synchronistic task iniciating and task interference for some time. Past couple of weeks has been full of the physical drivers and phrases of intimidation after iniciating a task and following with physical frenzy.

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Date: Mon, 19-Mar-2001 23:31:16 GMT From: James R. Rose <eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com> Subject: Voluntary Muscle-see Begick entry

Ecclesiastes :: The Segregated Fields ::: Page 697, Principles of Psychology, William James(1952) :: Production of Movement :: Effects on the Voluntary Muscles : Every sensorial stimulus not only sends a special discharge into certain particular muscles dependent on the special nature of the stimulus in question--some of these special discharges we have studied in Chapter XI, others we shall examine under the heads of Instinct and emotion--but it inervates the muscles generally. M. Fere has given a very curious experimental proof of this. The strength of contraction of the subject's hand was measured by a self- registering dynamometer. Ordinarily the maximum strength, under simple experimental conditions, remains the same from day to day. But if simultaneously with the contraction the subject recieved a sensorial impression, the contraction was sometimes weakened, but more often increased. This reinforcing effect has recieved the name of 'dynamogeny.' The dynamogenic value of simple 'musical notes' seems to be proportional to their loudness and height. Where the notes are compounded into sad strains, the muscular strength diminishes. If the strains are gay, increased.--The dynamogenic value of "colored lights" varies (page 698) with the color.

In a subject, { The figures are from an hysterical subject, and the differences are greater than normal. M. Fere considers that the unstable nervous system of the hysteric ("ces grenouilles de la psychologie" ) shows the law on a quantitatively exaggerated scale, without altering the qualitive relations. The effect remind us a little of the influence of sensations upon minimal sensations of the orders discovered by 'Urbantschitsch', and reported on page 470 of this volume. ), whose normal strength was expressed by 23, it became 24 when a blue light was thrown on the eyes, 28 for green, 30 for yellow, 35 for orange, and 42 for red. Red is the most exciting color. Among 'tastes,' sweet has the lowest value, next comes salt, then bitter, and finally sour, though, as M. Fere remarks, such sour as acetic acid excites the nerves of "pain" and "smell" as well as of taste. The stimulating effects of tobacco-smoke, alcohol, beef-extract ( which is innutritious ), etc., etc., may be partly due to a dynamogenic action of this sort.--Of "odors," that of musk seems to have a peculiar dynamogenic power. { Shows a graph of small peaks on subject without stimulus, and the higher peaks of stronger ones when under the influence of red rays of light. }

Everyone is familiar with the "patellar reflex," or jerks upwards of the foot which is produced by smartly tapping the tendon below the knee-pan when the leg hangs over the other knee. "Drs. Weir Mitchell and Lombard have founf that when other sensations come in simultaneously with the tap, the jerk is increased."{ Mitchell in (Philadelphia) Medical News ( Feb. 13 and 20, 1886 ); Lombard in American Journal of Psychology ( Oct., 1887 ), } "Heat, cold, pricking, itching, or fardic stimulation of the skin, sometimes strong ""optical impressions,"" music, all have this dynamogenic effect, which also results whenever voluntary movements are set up in other parts of the body, simultaneously with the tapp.

[ Hypnopaedic verbal expressions-Pavlov-Skinner conditioning, Gestalt deceptive stereoimages, electromagnetic stimulation, ears ringing with tone(s) and oscilation(s), as constant sources of stimulation(s)-constant stimuli ] These "dynamogenic" effects, in which one stimulation simply reinforces another already under way, must not be confounded with reflex acts properly so called, in which new activities are originated by the stimulus. All instinctive performances and manifestations of emotion are reflex acts. [ Hence the verbal series repetitions and rotations for conditioning responses and reactions-brainwashing ] But underneath those of which we are conscious there seem to go on continually others smaller in amount, which probably in most persons might be called fluctuations of muscular tone, but which in certain neurotic subjects can be demonstrated ocularly. M. Fere figures some of them in the article to which I have already referred. { Revue phil., p. 572 ff. }

[ Quite the deception as an artificially created forced stimulus of an unpleasant nature of which the subject could do nothing about, for portraying paranoid schitzophrenics and bipolar disorders, of which most of us are experiencing being labeled if we have atempted professional assistance, "Take this medication or we'll lock you away;" while many are committing violent acts as domestic manchurians thereby reinforcing the public's perception toward them. "If you here something often enough you will believe it." Recall that in my own situation my claims of homes and buildings being inlaid in texture and stucco with the Gestalt art. An additional factor to consider in my case was the home I was living in and their uses of these types of arrangements. The window panes were utilized with color outside of the window in the form of carpet (green) laid in my carport, a bar (red covered) outside of the carport window, and carpet (blue) covered particle board spread out in the backyard in sections covering the expanse of the yard. The back fence was aligned with carpet (gray) covered particle board. Is it too much to say that considering all of the information and its relations to my entries that something is afoot? The after-image effects of being cued to stare fixatedly at the inlaid Gestalt art, and the art is done in a technique of smaller to larger increments of images so while staring at the smaller, the larger are imprinted on the retina, and cued to a different background color leaves the retinal after-image effect. ""Ecclesiastes"" for the operation. Recall there was a federal agent murdered in the 70's at about the same time as a newspaper reporter was murdered by car bombing. He left information pertaining to that section of the Bible and "using the youth." Hypnopaedic reinforcements of pseudo affirmations (positive followed by negative, negative followed by positive action-behavior constructs as sequence(s) of series arrangements) are neverending verbal assaults and simultaneous physical assaults, and when allowed sleep mental holography-hallucination conditioning toward these behaviors are injected into the brain as real time experiences; a never ending mechanical choreographed orchestration..... My hours awake at present are over 3100, sleep comes in half hour and one hour spurts. The images are not restricted to sleep alone. Mental images are being utilized as a forced stimulation per "attitude-self-object" sequence rotations and repetitions. "it's your im a ges"u can't stand it" it can get wors er"it can"it's ur arm"arms'we're burn n ya"i's ur leg"legs"we're laf n"ur cra z"ur like Rus el"i's ur mus els"u cant prove nuth n"ur b n made a fool of"we want u ta go"u aw ta--go"kil n"on ly way"ur get n it"ur it"u aw ta go"u did it"so"Im so proud of u"u ca(nt) sta(nd) this"ur this"ur get n this"ur the smart est"kil er"ur er"; the shorthand or CVC arrangements are what term physical frenzy, where heartrate is errattic causing a felt sensation from the blood pressure alternating to the beat of the heart, additionally, contractions release and contract are felt as sensation, contraction holds amount to added pain, and with the heartrate and the contraction combination there is additional pain where the muscles feel as though pulsating, this is also done with my kidneys. There are verbal instructions toward each instance. Mine are consciously heard, how about yours? Although there are instances when not consciously heard included in the repetitions and rotations. My perception of the physical occurring. On another note, the mexicans are re-stuccoing homes in the area (as a result of my posting areas with handouts, and marking the sidewalks where the homes contain the Gestalt inlaid art), as well as businesses they are opening ] Looking back over all these facts, it is hard to doubt the truth of the law of diffusion, even where verification is beyond reach. ""A process set up anywhere in the centres reverberates everywhere, and in some way or other effects the organism throughout, making its activities either greater or less.""[ In the world of psuedo affirmations all positive action(s) are negatively reinforced affirmations inhibiting that action, while all actions positively reinforced actions are negative inciting toward the serial arrangements in algebraic terms.] ""We are brought again to the assimilation which was expressed on a previous page of the nerve-central mass to a good conductor charged with electricity, of which the tension cannot be changed anywhere without changing it everywhere."" Her Schneider has tried to show, by an ingenious and suggestive zoological review, that all "special" movements which highly evolved animals make are differentiated from the two originally simple movements, of "contraction" and "expansion," in which the entire body of simple organisms takes part. "The tendency to 'contract' is the source of all self-protective impulses and reactions which are later developed, including that of flight." "The tendency to expand splits up, on the contrary, into the impulses and instincts of an aggressive kind, feeding, fighting, sexual intercourse, etc." [ progressive irritations and intermittent expansion constantly driving physical sensations ] Schneider's articles are well worth reading, if only for careful observations on animals which they embody. I cite them here as sort of an evolutionary reason to add to the "mechanical" 'a priori' reason why there 'ought' to be diffusive wave which our "a posteriori" instances have shown to exist.

I will now proceed to a detailed study of the more important classes of movement consequent upon cerebro-mental change. They may be enumerated as-- (1) Instinctive or Impulsive Performances; (2) Expressions of Emotions; (3) Voluntary Deeds.

In cases where the feeling is strong the law is too familiar to require proof. Professor Bain many years ago gave the name of the Law of Diffussion to this phenomenon of general discharge, and expressed it thus: "According as an impression is accompanied with Feeling, the aroused currents diffuse themselves over the brain, leading to a general agitation of the moving organs, as well as affecting the viscera." As professor Bain says : Each of us knows in our own experience that a sudden shock [ verbal or physical ] of feeling is accompanied with movements of the body generally, and with other effects. When no emotion is present [ one of the products of the verbal and physical drives, to creat negative emotion for the drives, enlisting sequences and serial arrangements-dictates to behaviors-brainwash; recall that the mental holography and hallucination conditionings are for all intents and purposes the very same as real experiences, vivid dreams forgotten-vivid dreams intermittently revisiting throughout the day, somnambulism, and operant conditioning-hypnopaedia; cueing during waking hours and the mystical account of having had experienced as a forced stimulus ] we are quiescent; a slight feeling is accompanied with slight manifestations; a more intense shock has a more intense outburst. Every pleasure and every pain, and every mode of emotion, has a definate wave of effects, which our observation makes known to us; and we apply the knowledge to infer other men's feelings from outward display. . . . . The organs first and prominently affected, in the diffused wave of nervous influence [ "your nervous"its yourself"ur ex cit n us"its ur spir it"spear it"ur the smart est man on the plan it"its ur head"u can't stand it"ur b n run off"ur n love"u aw ta go"I got ta"u must kil er", any number of variable arrangements utilizing word-nonsense syllable-consonant-vowel-consonant sequences of the alphabet. Also word plays are utilized from similar sounding arrangements "thats what your being"ats wat ur b ing"sti n ya-u'ur crazy"ur cra z"you are"u r!"ur just b n stupid"ur ju b n stu id"ur lips r num n"ur lis r nu min"at's wat ur a fraid of" a's wa ur a fra of"heartrate-body pulsating-burning sensation-headache, or head-neck-tendon contraction hold intense pain, individually and combination, utilize each in its turn in rotations and repetitions, formula for Pavlov and Skinner- conditioning and operant conditioning, and also Hypnopaedia->hypnotism. Pairing thereof to symbols of as paired associates. As is being done as I type the entry, medula pain and heartrate with endless succession of verbal expression assaults and instructions, sweating under a fan and is 50 degrees, a regular for the irregular heartrate rythm, "J ur b n an as ole"go"u bas ard"go"go along with this"ur this"kil this" and there are the segregated conflict and approach constructs spaced in the sequences, some are intermittent closely spaced and some are spread out drives within drives. The variance of electrical stimulation and verbal assault is basically the same, disorientation of muscles-rigidity, "ur clumsy"ur trip n"ur b n run off" for cues of run into, muscles freeze and become uncordinated due to rigid contraction-"ur fru a ed" its ur __"(hed-ed-arm-r ums-nos-knos-ich n u-ya-i n u-ya-I'll show u-ya"i's ur shoulders"ur put n on hell of a sho"ur pu n on l of a sho"ur b n on erd"kil ur sef"ur cra z"on ly way"kil n"its ur tendons"ur on er y"on er e"i's ur on es t" like a scratched record over and over and over,"ur a-gamler"u jus lost it"ich n"scra it"an does it-this" which is a segregated means of iniciating the directives toward kil-forget-ur for get n this, both ends are self serving containments for multiple dictates by paired associates procedure(s) ]

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Date: Mon, 19-Mar-2001 23:33:43 GMT From: James R. Rose <eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com> Subject: Brain Waves

Ecclesiastes :: The Segregated Fields ::: Bugelski, An Introduction to Psychology(1973) :: Brain Waves ::: We can now make some general observations about the brains activity and then proceed to our speculative interpretations of what the brain is doing in the head. About 1929 it was discovered that if electrodes were attached to the scalp of an animal or human, minute changing electrical potentials could be detected. [ see John Ginter-Vacaville Prison-California, located at http://.calweb.com/~welsh/ginter.htm ; also see Aldous Huxley, Brave New World Revisited (1958), Hypnopaedia-Tulfar Prison Camp, located at http://www.psychops.com ] When such potentials are amplified, oscilloscopes or other recording devices show them in the form of waves, the so-called waves-- the next time you have an idea, don't say you "had a brain wave"--you nearly always have brain waves unless you are in a coma or dead. The waves can be described in terms of frequency and amplitude. Different kinds of frequencies may be picked up under different conditions. For example, when you are asleep the waves are slow ( up to 4 per second and rather large ); as you awaken to the day's activities, the brain waves become faster and smaller and a typical waking wave ( resting with eyes closed ) will run off at about 8 to 12 cycles per second. This is the alpha wave; the slow wave mentioned earlier is called the delta wave. Between the alpha and delta waves we have other names ( none of these names mean much, the frequencies are continuous )--bet, and gamma--to describe decreasing frequencies. When an alpha wave is being recorded and the subject opens his eyes, the alpha wave usually disappears and is replaced by waves of high frequency and low amplitude. What the meaning of this disappearance ( "desynchrony" ) is cannot be stated with certainty. When the waves disappear, it is assumed that there is a loss of synchronization of neural firing and that whatever potentials are present are organized in some different fashion. The point is that the disappearance of the waves does not reflect lack of activity in the brain, but does, on the contrary, indicate more specific kind of activity than that involved in resting with "the mind blank." ""Any kind of stimulation is likely to disturb the pattern of brain waves and special kinds of stimulation--for example, a light flickering at about 12 times per second--can iniciate and to some extent control the brain wave pattern; this is called photic driving ( Walter, 1953 ) . [ Think again on the uses of light as a means to control-disturb through the television, incancescent light, and any light source once conditoned, and or, induced-instructed ( the television screen reflects any outward light source back upon the viewing parties additionally to enlarge the effect ); and consider my advocating the use of Gestalt images within images, stereo images to influence and creat predispositions toward and away from particular behavior(s), imaging as a conditioned sensation by direct view and deceptive subliminal manipulation; see Dr. Nick Begick entry and consider again the ramifications; see page 699 use of light-W. James-contraction and expansion of which the entire body takes part making its activity either greater or less; p. 697, the dynamogenic value of "colored lights varies with the color", musical notes seem to be proportional to their loudness and height-sensorial impression; circulation-heartrate altered by sensation and course of thought ]

Our concern here is not so much with the nature of brain waves as with the fact that they exist. They indicate clearly as any evidence might that the brain is alive, that it is active, that it is using energy, and that any additional neural activity iniciated through sensory stimulation must take its chances on getting past the reticular system and finding its place or function in an already active brain. "" If the brain is not ready for such stimulation it either will become disorganized in its operations or it will not accept the new entry."" [ see page 835,William James, Principles of Psychology(1952), The Education of the Will, no other path has a chance of being organized."Motor Circle." Also see "constant stimuli," B.K. Bugelski, An Introduction to Psychology(1973). ] In short, we are insisting that the brain determines whether external energy changes are entitled to the term "stimulus," or merely external energy change.

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Date: Mon, 19-Mar-2001 23:36:17 GMT From: James R. Rose <eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com> Subject: Reticular Formation

Ecclesiastes :: The Segregated Fields ::: Bugelski, An introduction to Psychology(1973) :: The Reticular Formation : Just above the medula ( a bulbous development of the spinal cord near the base of the brain, an area containing many reflex centers which control such activities as breathing and temperature regulation ) is a complex arrangement of neural structures consisting of neurons with connections in all directions with the midbrain, the cortex, and the sensory structures--the "reticular formation" ( French, 1957 ). From the reticular formation pathways lead back and forth to the cortex and subcortical centers so that complex interactions can occur. The reticular formation can activate the cortex and the cortex can activate the reticular formation which can then modify the activity of the cortex and so on and on. Because the anatomical detail of the reticualr formation is so complex its limits are difficult to establish. Because it is not obvious as a solid lump or well defined body, nothing much was known about its function until only recently when we have come to regard it as sort of an ""activation center.""

"If the reticular formation is not recieving impulses and is relatively quiescent, the rest of the brain is quiet too, and the owner of the brain is asleep." "With activity in the reticular formation or "arousal" center, the brain can be wakened and set into action." "The reticular formation is apparently activated by receptor activity." Our dinural patterns of waking and sleeping, of eating at more or less regular periods and consequently "developing other conditions also may have much to do with the amount of activity in the reticular system." "If there is any self-controling mechanism in the brain at all, the closest approximation to one may be the reticular formation." "We can think of it as a govenor of the level of activation in the brain as a whole." The reticular formation may very well determine what sensory inputs are processed to the thalamus and get to the occipital lobe or temperal lobe or other way station.[note: pathways-override by constant stimuli not allowing for any other activity to enter, see William James] "It can determine to some degree whether motor activity will be iniciated and how energetically." "Whether we think of something, and whether one action will lead to another, may be functions of this area of the brain." "Enough has been established, however, to enable us to recognize the reticular system, a lower-brain-level "structure," as a regulator of the activity that goes on in the cortex." "But we should question whether the cortex is necessarily related to higher mental activity or whether, in fact, it merely facilitates such activity going on at lower levels, with perhaps greater elaboration and integration with past experience."

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Date: Mon, 19-Mar-2001 23:42:47 GMT From: James R. Rose <eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com> Subject: Sense Organs-Receptors

Ecclesiastes :: The Segregated Fields ::: Bugelski, An Introduction to Psychology(1973) :: Classification of the Sense Organs : While we are not going to concern ourselves with specialized receptor systems, it is important to note that stimulation has numerous ports of entry into the nervous system. They are briefly discussed below.

Exteroceptors ( distant ). Some forms of energy can effect the organism even though the source of stimulation is far removed. Thus we can see for great distances, that is, reflected light rays from objects at varying distances can enter the eye. Similarly, sound energy can travel for miles from its original source, if, like thunder, it is intense enough, and reaches our ears. Odors from stockyards can travel for several city blocks.. Stimulation from objects at some distance from the body is classified as being recieved by exteroceptors or distance receptors. It might be argued that actual physical contact is made via some medium that is clearly so in the case of audition where air, water, or some other medium is agitated at the locus of the earbdrum, but we might have the concept of a luminiferous ether.

Exteroceptors (contact ). The various skin senses, and here we have to include the taste buds on the tongue, form another 'class' of receptors. Here actual physical contact must occur although this is a rather vague affair in the temperature discrimination which we make in terms of outdoor weather conditions. Touching hot or cold objects is clearly a contact matter but feeling cold in winter time calls for more abstract concept of contact. In order to taste a substance, the material must be dissolved and flow around the taste buds which are somewhat hidden within the papillae on the tongue.

Interoceptors ( organic). The various internal organs are supplied with sensative cells which can iniciate neural impulses under some conditions such as distention by food or gas. Unusual activity in the heart, lungs, intestine, or the esophagel tract iniciates sensory stimulation. Most of these organs are insensitive to stimulation of external origin but are effective sources of impulse from internal pressures and distress conditions, inflammation, etc. Many organs in the viscera appear not to be effective sources of stimulation--we are unable to report activity in the liver, pancreas, and other glands. ""The lungs and the heart, on the other hand, provide a variety of stimulation, including auditory and visual effects."" [ blood pressure from overactive heartrate ( heart enlargement ), sleep deprivation in the form of overstimulation, psychophysical galvnic reactions (stings, itches, engorged muscles-prolonged stimulation accrues as fatigue, causate kidney pulsation and pain, etc., etc. ; shortness of breathing or lack of oxygen intake with overstimulated heartrate to produce irritation and anxiety-panic attack ]

Proprioceptors. The muscles, tendons, and joints are supplied with sense organ structures which react to movements of flexion or relaxation. These stimuli comprise the kinesthetic sense or sense of movement and are especially important in coordinated activities and in balance. Because each muscular contraction and skeletal movement is a rich source of stimulation, movements can be organized in sequences in which one movement leads to another and, "through the process of conditioning" a "habitual sequence" can run off with no visual or other aids. [ this applies also to behavior-predispositions thereof, in the form of repetition, "with a rare perfection," see Hypnotisism by William James(1952) ] These "movement-produced stimuli" plays agreat role in Guthrie's 'systematic psychology' and, indeed, one form or another of such internal stimulation is used by most theoretical speculators to "account for continuous or prolonged action beyond the reflex level." We shall return to, and rely heavily on, movement produced stimulation in our later considerations. We will make use of them as "mediators." [ for chronic fatigue-contraction chains, tight contraction-recontraction, quivering muscle-tendon, see also Hypnopaedia, Hypnotism for all that is entailed for artificially producing-conditioning-creating as a distance effect ]

The Vestibular Senses. In the internal ear, along with the cochlear structures which are essential for auditory stimulation, there are to be found the semicircular canals, the utricle, and the saccule, all of which are connected with the sense of balance and orientation in space of the head and of the body. The semicircular canals contain a liquid which is displaced whenever the head moves and the flow of this liquid past tiny hair structures provides the stimulation which we learn to associate with head position. In the utricle and saccule we have tiny grains ( ear stones or otoliths ) which are embedded in a gelitatinous mass. These tiny structures also stimulate the vestibular branch of the auditory nerve through specialized hair cells and provide us with a sense of "gravity" effectively because of the so-called pull of gravity on the otoliths. Damage to these structures would deprive us of a sense of weight--we would be weightless, as our space children will be when they take off for Mars in a rocket and are deprived of the gravitational influence on the otoliths. [ and conversely, made to feel with an opposite influence ]

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Date: Mon, 19-Mar-2001 23:49:53 GMT From: James R. Rose <eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com> Subject:

Ecclesiastes :: The Segregated Fields ::: Leuba(1940) : The concept of the image as a conditioned sensation has been illustrated by Leuba (1940) in a series of experiments using hypnosis as a technique for isolating the presumed basic processes. A subject is hypnotized (see Hypnotism by William James (1952) and told that "he can only hear a buzzer and the hypnotist's voice," "that he can see nothing, feel nothing except on the back of one hand." The experimenter then sounds the buzzer and at the same time pricks the back of the subject's hand with a needle or a pencil point. The subject is then brought back to a normal condition and while he is otherwise occupied, the buzzer is sounded. Immediately the subject starts to rub the back of his hand which had been pricked earlier. When asked why he does this, he replies that he felt an itch.

[ basic format for controlling and manipulating based on hypnopaedia-hypnosis, can arrange instances by instruction both continuously and by post hypnotic containment field ]

If this experimental analogue is taken as a suggestion about how imagery is iniciated, we might presume that the occurrence of apprpriate stimuli in the external world,

[ Gestalt deceptive artwork-stereo images within commercial products, televison (dating back into the 1950's ), and in my case around the city of Chandler on homes and buildings, have also located these inlayed deceptions in public offices ]

or internal reactions which might generate stimuli, might also give rise to neural activity which previously accompanied such stimuli and the subject will have an image. Such imaginal activity, i.e., the neural processes involved, can by a similar process be associated with other imaginal neural surrogates so that a whole chain of imagery can be initiated by some one stimulus. One image can lead to another, just as other sequential activities as in walking, etc., can occur.

According to Berkeley, it was the activity of the mind that generated physical objects as appearances in an 'apparent' physical world. Sounds , sights, odors, tastes, etc., were mental experiences which depended upon the mind alone and out of which we constructed alleged items in an alleged external world. It is hypothetically correct, that if we could iniciate the same neural activity in the optic nerve, that follows stimulation from some source, say the "reflected light" from a "particular person or painting," we would then ""see"" that painting or person without the actual presence of the external stimuli.

[ This applies to all of the senses as depicted above. "Reconstruction" thereof, as a paired associate procedure, (Leuba,1940), or a vector, (Kohler,1944), for those smelling, hearing, seeing, feeling, as previous experience of a sensation. Repetative tunes is what refer when use the incestant repetition of a song. ( and these are coinciding with the verbal expressions series arrangements-sequences-conditionings ) A one liner was what termed the "echolia" instruction. As have stated many times, the field is as vast as the imagination for the manipulation of an individual, a family, or a group of persons in a given area. ]

To a degree we are always doing this with all of our senses, more effectively with some than others. The behavior involved when people report seeing or hearing, or otherwise experiencing objects in their absence, is called "imagery." At one time psychologists made a great deal of fuss about imagery. It was considered by Wundt one of the three basic psychic processes, an element of mental activity. Galton (1883) studied individual differences in imagery in a celebrated introduction of the questionnaire technique in psychology. He asked several hundred friends to imagine their breakfast table and describe carefully all their reactions as they called it up in their fancy. Other psychologists wondered if thinking went on through the process of imagery and in some cases decided that thinking could go on in the absense of any image content. They became known as "imageless thought" school. When Watson launched his program of behavioristic psychology he dismissed images from psychology as mystical hangovers from an unscientific day.

[ Appropriate for a controling faction of knowledgible person's intending to utilize the facts as a foundation for manipulating the masses with the Gestalt type of artwork coinciding to William James' Laws of Contrast, 1947 and 1952, respectfully. See entries on television, computer, paintings, lithographs, environmental and behavioral engineering. B. F. Skinner, Walden's Pond (1938) ]

Watson's debonair dismissal of the image by the simple process of denial disturbed many pschologists who could not so easily dismiss their own images. For many years an uneasy atmosphere prevailed in relation to talking about images in psychology. A strictly behavioristic view denied the possibility of observing such private experiences. There was some concession to an undeniable fact in connection with "so called "afterimages" (if you look persistently at some patch of color for about thirty seconds and then look at a neutral surface you will ""see"" an apparent color on this surface which will be the color complement of the original, e.g., if the original was red, the aftereffect will be bluegreen ). Afterimages were grudgingly admitted by the most extreme behaviorist, but other images were treated as some sort of spiritualistic poltergeists and inadmissile in scientific conversation. We have recently become somewhat more sophisticated on this subject and images are again coming into psychological conversations. But now it is held that the image is no different in origin and nature from the original kind of reaction except for whatever support the actual stimulation might provide. ""If by any means the neural activity involved in seeing your mother, for example, can be iniciated without mama's actually being present, then you will be likely to report that you can see your mother, perhaps a little vaguely, but to some degree.""

Such neural activity can be aroused, it is argued, through the arousal of other neural activity which has been associated with that which occurred at the original stimulation. To use some technical jargon, the image is a "conditioned" neural reaction. If one desired to speak of the basic neural reaction involved in the original stimulation as a "sensation," then an image would be a "conditioned sensation." [ see Hypnotism by William James (1952): Hallucianation ]

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Date: Tue, 20-Mar-2001 00:03:44 GMT From: James R. Rose <eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com> Subject: Sense Organs-Receptors

Ecclesiastes :: The Segregated Fields ::: Bugelski, An Introduction to Psychology(1973) :: Classification of the Sense Organs : While we are not going to concern ourselves with specialized receptor systems, it is important to note that stimulation has numerous ports of entry into the nervous system. They are briefly discussed below.

Exteroceptors ( distant ). Some forms of energy can effect the organism even though the source of stimulation is far removed. Thus we can see for great distances, that is, reflected light rays from objects at varying distances can enter the eye. Similarly, sound energy can travel for miles from its original source, if, like thunder, it is intense enough, and reaches our ears. Odors from stockyards can travel for several city blocks.. Stimulation from objects at some distance from the body is classified as being recieved by exteroceptors or distance receptors. It might be argued that actual physical contact is made via some medium that is clearly so in the case of audition where air, water, or some other medium is agitated at the locus of the earbdrum, but we might have the concept of a luminiferous ether.

Exteroceptors (contact ). The various skin senses, and here we have to include the taste buds on the tongue, form another 'class' of receptors. Here actual physical contact must occur although this is a rather vague affair in the temperature discrimination which we make in terms of outdoor weather conditions. Touching hot or cold objects is clearly a contact matter but feeling cold in winter time calls for more abstract concept of contact. In order to taste a substance, the material must be dissolved and flow around the taste buds which are somewhat hidden within the papillae on the tongue.

Interoceptors ( organic). The various internal organs are supplied with sensative cells which can iniciate neural impulses under some conditions such as distention by food or gas. Unusual activity in the heart, lungs, intestine, or the esophagel tract iniciates sensory stimulation. Most of these organs are insensitive to stimulation of external origin but are effective sources of impulse from internal pressures and distress conditions, inflammation, etc. Many organs in the viscera appear not to be effective

sources of stimulation--we are unable to report activity in the liver, pancreas, and other glands. ""The lungs and the heart, on the other hand, provide a variety of stimulation, including auditory and visual effects."" [ blood pressure from overactive heartrate ( heart enlargement ), sleep deprivation in the form of overstimulation, psychophysical galvnic reactions (stings, itches, engorged muscles-prolonged stimulation accrues as fatigue, causate kidney pulsation and pain, etc., etc. ; shortness of breathing or lack of oxygen intake with overstimulated heartrate to produce irritation and anxiety-panic attack ]

Proprioceptors. The muscles, tendons, and joints are supplied with sense organ structures which react to movements of flexion or relaxation. These stimuli comprise the kinesthetic sense or sense of movement and are especially important in coordinated activities

and in balance. Because each muscular contraction and skeletal movement is a rich source of stimulation, movements can be organized in sequences

in which one movement leads to another and, "through the process of conditioning" a "habitual sequence" can run off with no visual or other aids. [ this applies also to behavior-predispositions thereof, in the form of repetition, "with a rare perfection," see Hypnotisism by William

James(1952) ] These "movement-produced stimuli" plays agreat role in Guthrie's 'systematic psychology' and, indeed, one form or another of such internal stimulation is used by most theoretical speculators to "account for continuous or prolonged action beyond the reflex level." We

shall return to, and rely heavily on, movement produced stimulation in our later considerations. We will make use of them as "mediators." [ for chronic fatigue-contraction chains, tight contraction-recontraction,

quivering muscle-tendon, see also Hypnopaedia, Hypnotism for all that is

entailed for artificially producing-conditioning-creating as a distance effect ]

The Vestibular Senses. In the internal ear, along with the cochlear structures which are essential for auditory stimulation, there are to be found the semicircular canals, the utricle, and the saccule, all of which are connected with the sense of balance and orientation in space of the head and of the body. The semicircular canals contain a liquid which is displaced whenever the head moves and the flow of this liquid past tiny hair structures provides the stimulation which we learn

to associate with head position. In the utricle and saccule we have tiny

grains ( ear stones or otoliths ) which are embedded in a gelitatinous mass. These tiny structures also stimulate the vestibular branch of the auditory nerve through specialized hair cells and provide us with a sense of "gravity" effectively because of the so-called pull of gravity on the otoliths. Damage to these structures would deprive us of a sense of weight--we would be weightless, as our space children will be when they take off for Mars in a rocket and are deprived of the gravitational

influence on the otoliths. [ and conversely, made to feel with an opposite influence ]

""All Is Vanity""

""All Is Vanity""

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Date: Tue, 20-Mar-2001 00:34:54 GMT From: James R. Rose <eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com> Subject: Ideao Motor Actions

Ecclesiastes :: The Segregated Fields ::: Ideo-Motor Action-Will, William James, ( page 792 ), We know what it is to get out of bed on a cold morning in a room without a fire, and how the very vital principle within us protests against the ordeal. Probably most persons have lain on certain mornings for an hour at a time unable to brace themselves to the resolve. We think how late we shall be, how the duties of the day will suffer; we say, "I 'must' get up, this is ignominious," etc.; but still the warm couch feels too delicious, the cold outside too cruel, and resolution faints away postpones itself again and again just as it seemed on the verge of bursting the resistance and passing over into the decisive act. [ this is a layout for the hypnopaedic hypothetical constructs-linguistic fictions-story lines-scenarios-characterizations pertaining to the hypnotic control over sensation as pain and pleasure to which are utilized to influence-push and or inhibit motor actions-mental to physical;-vivid dreams-mental holography-hallucination conditioning; insert behavior(s) and predispositions to or away from action;-scripts ] If I may generalize my own experience, we more often than not get up without any struggle or decision at all. We suddenly find that we have got up. A fortunate lapse of consciousness occurs; we forget the warmth and the cold; we fall into some revery connected with the day's life, in the course of which the 'idea' flashes across us, "Hello, I 'must' lay her no longer!'--an idea which at that lucky instant awakens no contradictory or paralyzing suggestions, and "consequently produces immediately its appropriate motor effects." It was our accute consciousness of both the warmth and the cold during the period of struggle, which paralyzed our activity then kept our 'idea' of rising in the condition of 'wish' and not 'will.' The moment these inhibitory 'ideas' ceased, the original 'idea' exerted its effects. [ the artificial series arrangements as constant substitute stimuli, repetitions and rotations toward specified behaviors-actions ] This case seems to me to contain in miniature form the data for an entire psychology of volition. It was in fact through meditating on the phenomenon in my own person that I first became convinced of the truth of the doctrine which these pages represent, and which I need here illustrate by no farther examples.{ Professor A. Bain (The Senses and the Intellect, pp. 336-48) and Dr. W. B. Carpenter (Mental Physiology, chapter VI) give examples in abundance. }

The reason why that doctrine is not the self-evident truth is that we have so many 'ideas' which 'do not' result in action. But it will be seen that in every such case, without exception, that is because other 'ideas' simultaneously present rob them of their 'impulsive' power. But even here, and when a movement is inhibited from 'completely' taking place by contrary 'ideas,' it will 'incipiently' take place. To quote Lotze once more :

The spectator accompanies the throwing of a billiard-ball, or the thrust of the swordsman, with the slight movements of his arm; the untaught narrator tells his story with many gesticulations; the reader while absorbed in the perusal of a battle-scene feels a slight tension run through his muscular system, 'keeping time as it were with the actions' he is reading of. "These results become the more marked the more we are absorbed in thinking of the movements which suggest them;"[hypnopaedia] they grow fainter exactly in proportion as a complex consciousness, under the dominion of a crowd of other representations, withstands the passing over of mental contemplation into outward action.

The "willing game," the exhibitions of so called "mind reading," or more properly muscle-reading, which have lately grown so fashionable, are based on this "incipient obedience of muscular contraction to idea,' even when the deliberate intention is that no contraction shall occur." { For a full account by an expert, of the "willing game," see Mr. Stuart Cumberland's article, "A Thought-reader's Experiences," in the Nineteenth Century, XX, p. 867. M. Gley has given a good example of ideo-motor action in the Bulletins de la societe de psychologie physiologique for 1889. Tell a person to think intently of a certain name, and saying that you will then force her to write it, let her hold a pencil, and do yourself hold her hand. She will then probably trace the name involuntarily, believing that you are forcing her to do it. } [ouji board]

"We may then lay it down for certain that every representation of a movement awakens in some degree the actual movement which is its object; and awakens it in a maximum degree whenever it is not kept from so doing by an antagonistic representation present simultaneously to the mind."

""All Is Vanity""

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Date: Tue, 20-Mar-2001 04:21:13 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: Caught Red Handed

This evening I was roused from watching TV at about 10:45PM, by some noise out front of my house. I quickly ran to the upstairs washroom the is at the front of the house as well. I quietly opened the window and peered outside just in time to see an individual closing the hood of my truck.

JV

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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:38:38 -0700 From: "chuck" <xfiles@uswest.net> Cc: mc@topica.com Subject: Re: [MC] Caught Red Handed

They use to be under the hood of my truck constantly with little regard to me observing them. When I would call the Glendale City police about this they would come out and talk to me but they always refused to file a report or even open the hood of my truck. These events were conducted by a drug cartel know as the Dirty Dozen who was ran by the DEA under the CIA I was never able to fully understand what they were doing under my hood. They did alter my CB radio to transmit all of the time but other then that I have no idea of what they were doing under my hood. The DEA during that period of time monitored me through the button in my pants which were levies which transmitted in code at 724.56 MHz. The DEA would gas me anytime the Dirty Dozen was working on my truck. They used a arm with a gas bottle on it that extended to the 2nd floor window of my home and plugged into the vent in my window frame. After gassing me they would come in and interrogate me and even remove me for photos to discredit me. Some times taking me for up to three days at a time. This went on for about 14 years as I called the police constantly about what was happening. When the FBI started to monitor me and my wife this stopped and allowed me to start to feed the FBI information on what was happening. After the DEA found out what was happening and that the FBI understood and believed what was happening then the DEA came back and injected me with the devices they now torture me with. Wilkey was the name of the DEA agent responsible and he worked for the DEA agent in charge of Arizona named Wood who my wife was setting up orgies of girls for. Wood worked for George Bush and at that time in 1991 ran a large percent of the drugs in America. The CIA official figure was 35 % but they were skimming off 2 % making the real figure 37 %. Chuck

John Vincent wrote:

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Interesting Audio circuits By thefbiisthecatcherintherye@hotmail.com

Mind control on TV By west@sonic.net

FW: [isml] Future soldiers could get enhanced minds By west@sonic.net

REAL UFO/ETs & MIND CONTROL By ecotoday@aol.com

Los Angeles MC Conference April 28 By cpps@erols.com

"Repression Study Backs Freud" (Washington Post, 2/19/01) By cloudrider@aol.com

Research links Schizophrenia and Alzheimers?... (London; 3/15/01) By cloudrider@aol.com

Continuing Saga By eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com

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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:49:15 -0000 From: "Catcher of The Catcher in the Rye" <thefbiisthecatcherintherye@hotmail.com> Subject: Interesting Audio circuits

Interesting Audio circuits can be found at :

http://www.mitedu.freeserve.co.uk/

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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 04:52:44 -0800 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> Subject: Mind control on TV

Ed [e.maatkamp@hccnet.nl] from the Netherlands, a new list member, points out that the Pretender Series on TV presents a Monarch mind control scenario.

"In one episode there was an explosion in a sublevel of the programming center, and you could see a damaged copy of the Wizard Of Oz book lying on the floor. That was the thing that made it 100% sure that these guys know about the Monarch program."

Watch for a new Pretender Movie on April 9th from TNT, he advises.

(quoted with permission)

By the way, I've noticed a curious TV commercial on CNN or Fox news (can't remember the advertiser) that ends in a Wizard of Oz scene. One of the quick flashes shows a school bus with a sign, Monarch School, and scenes of rural south and baseball (Jackie Robinson?). Has anyone else seen that?

There's another curious commercial from Enron (http://www.enron.com ), the Houston energy company, with a robot-tin man stumbling over a bridge ending with a metallic voice saying, "Why...why?" (They're running a whole series of these hypnotic "why" commercials.

"One of the biggest beneficiaries of the California power crisis is a Texas energy conglomerate that more than any other single company has helped bankroll President Bush's political career." http://seattlep-i.nwsource.com/business/enrn25.shtml

See Mind Control Slavery and the New World Order, http://www.nexusmagazine.com/MindControlNWO.html

Connect the dots ....

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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 12:15:05 -0800 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> Subject: FW: [isml] Future soldiers could get enhanced minds

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>From UPI, http://www.vny.com/cf/news/upidetail.cfm?QID=169532 - Future soldiers could get enhanced minds Monday, 19 March 2001 21:21 (ET)

Future soldiers could get enhanced minds

WASHINGTON, March 19 (UPI) -- Researchers hope to use advances in computers, communications and neuroscience to medically enhance the mental acuity of future soldiers, while connecting their body and minds to smarter machines.

"Military planners are looking to science to find better ways to exploit human perception and memory," said Dr. Dennis McBride, a former naval officer and a professor in the department of psychology and engineering at the University of Central Florida in Orlando.

"Thanks in part to MRIs we can actually see mental processes, or correlates of mental processes," McBride said. "That will one day help us to find ways, for example, to help information in the human brain move more quickly from short-term store to long-term store."

McBride said scientists might be able to boost mental awareness, regulate mood, control anxieties and more, using custom-tailored medicines whose effect and dosage are based on genetic information and delivered by novel methods made possible through nanotechnology. Pharmaceutical companies are leading the way in developing drugs to those ends, but the most pressing challenge is avoiding side effects, he said.

One key to augmenting the thinking of tomorrow's soldiers is learning more about how emotion affects decision-making, specifically learning how emotional attachments and highly stressful situations effect the brain's ability to retrieve information.

McBride said the Navy has sponsored a research program, called tactical decision-making under stress, that has lead to an important understanding of the co-relationship between emotion and cognition. But real advances will occur when tomorrow's soldiers, perhaps already biologically enhanced through drugs, are seamlessly integrated with small, powerful computers.

"It will likely be possible that the future soldier, for instance, will wear eyewear that allows him to see a person and instantaneously be presented with a complete dossier on who that person is," McBride said.

He also described a video chip that might one day record a soldier's sensory experiences and perceptions and download it for access by other soldiers.

"We have developed drugs that have proven to enhance mental acuity in animals, and we are very optimistic that they can be tailored for human use," said Dr. Dan Alkon, formerly of the National Institutes of Health and now scientific director of the Blanchette Rockefeller Neurosciences Institute, co-sponsored by Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore and West Virginia University in Morgantown.

"We have extracted mathematical principles to find and map neurological systems, then developed drugs that enhance those systems. From the perspective of warfighting, this is a great wave of the future."

But many social and ethical considerations exist, as demonstrated by a publication entitled "Out of the Box and Into the Future," released by the Potomac Institute for Policy Studies in Washington, D.C.

The publication cites a paper that highlights these worries: "Our understanding of all human social arrangements is based, ultimately, on an understanding of human nature. If that nature becomes subject to significant alteration through human artifice, then all such arrangements are thrown into doubt. Can humanity trust itself with such capabilities? Should it? How can we know before the fact?"

(Reported by Technology Writer Kelly Hearn in Washington)

-- Copyright 2001 by United Press International. All rights reserved. --

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Date: Tue, 20-Mar-2001 20:15:17 GMT From: <ecotoday@aol.com> Cc: ewar@topica.com

Subject: REAL UFO/ETs & MIND CONTROL

To EWAR & MC-L members - In the several years that I have been a member of the EWAR/MC list, the list moderator has positionally attacked any view that UFOs/ETs are real, and might be other than MK-ULTRA or other mind control phenomena.

In fact, the moderator's position that all UFO/ETs are mind control is curiously identical to the goal of MILAB mind control disinformation, eg. to create the impression that all UFO/ET experiences are mind control-generated.

In fact the Best Available Evidence shows that BOTH are true. Some UFO/abduction experiences are the product of mind control - MILAB (military abduction) cases are an example of this. There is also a body of UFO/ET cases that are not mind control generated, but that suggest UFOs/ET are real phenomena.

The moderator has challenged any list member to come forward with evidence to show that UFOs are real and might indeed have a separate, perhaps extraterrestrial or ultradimensional origin.

We enter BEST AVAILABLE EVIDENCE onto the EWAR/MC lists now. At the URL below, you will find the Case Histories of the Best available Evidence documents, produced in the mid-1990s for presentation to scientific, governmental and social leaders worldwide.

http://www.isso.org/inbox/ubd/table.htm#case

In May, 2001, the testimony of myself and 90 high-level witnesses to UFO/ET reality will be presented at the National Press Club, Washington, DC. Preceding the press events will be private briefings for US congresspeople, congressional staff, space activists, social activist organizations, environmental organizations, etc.

This effort is at securing an extra-official disclosure where the USA military-intelligence apparatus has chosen to continue 50 years of coverup.

Alfred Lambremont Webre, JD, MEd Vancouver, BC

BEST AVAILABLE EVIDENCE CASE HISTORIES http://www.isso.org/inbox/ubd/table.htm#case

From OVERVIEW: Best Available Evidence (See URL above) ===== "The great conflict between official positions and trustworthy observations constitutes the mystery of Unidentified Flying Objects. A possible solution to this mystery is the suggestion that the official position is based on an elaborate cover-up. If it is a cover-up, what then is being protected, and by whom?

The answers to these questions generally focus on the issue of national security as well as fear of the public reaction to an official disclosure of UFO reality and its extraterrestrial origin. The question of extraterrestrial intention and the frightening aspects of the alleged abduction phenomena could be extremely disturbing. However, many researchers believe that it is the science and technology behind the national security veil which lies at the heart of the secrecy, and that:

-fallen discs are being reverse engineered, repaired and/or copied, and being tested;

-the technology is so advanced that we can barely imagine the science behind it (which could be based on a fundamentally different understanding of gravity and electromagnetic fields);

-whichever nation masters this extraordinary technology will certainly be the most powerful nation on earth;

-in the opinion of those in control, the guarding of this technology for defense purposes, far outweighs its potential value for other purposes - i.e. a non-polluting, cost efficient solution to our present energy and environmental crisis. _______________________________________

FOOTNOTES

2. Memo from Lt. Gen. Nathan Twining, Commanding General of the Air Materiel Command, Wright Field, to Gen. Spaatz, Commanding General of the U.S. Army Air Forces, September 23, 1947.

3. Menkello, F.V., "Quantitative Aspects of Mirages," USAF Environmental Technical Applications Center, 1969.

4. Steiger Brad, ed. Project Blue Book, Ballantine Books, 1976.

5. GEPAN, Note Technique No. 16, Enquête 81/01, Analyse d'une Trace, Toulouse, March 1, 1983. (English translation published in the MUFON UFO Journal, March 1984.)

6. Air Force Base Intelligence Report, "Flying Discs," AFBIR-CO, July 30, 1947.

7. Twining, ibid.

8. Draft Intelligence Collections Memorandum issued by Brig. Gen. George Shulgen, Chief of the Air Intelligence Requirements Division of the Office of the Assistant Chief of Staff of the U.S. Air Force, October 28, 1947.

9. U.S. Air Intelligence Report #100-203-79, "Analysis of Flying Objects in the U.S.," December 10, 1948.

10. Air Force Project Blue Book, "Special Report No. 14 (Analysis of Reports of Unidentified Aerial Objects)," May 5, 1955.

11. Gillmor, Daniel S., ed., Scientific Study of Unidentified Flying Objects, New York Times Books, 1969.

12. Bolender, Brig. Gen. C.H., USAF, Memo re Project Blue Book, October 20, 1969."

===== EcoNews Service http://www.ecologynews.com Vancouver, BC posted by Alfred Webre

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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 01:46:27 -0500 From: Carole Price <cpps@erols.com> Subject: Los Angeles MC Conference April 28

Mary Ann Stratton asked me to post this: There will be an all-day conference in L.A. on 4/28. Speakers will be Walter Bowart (Operation Mind Control) and Albert Taylor. Taylor is a former NASA engineer and is the author of Soul Traveller and will soon have a new book out. The cost is $25 before April 15. It will be held at Patriotic Hall. Mary Ann can be reached at 909 883-7696.

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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:59:32 EST From: CloudRider@aol.com Subject: "Repression Study Backs Freud" (Washington Post, 2/19/01)

Verbatim quote, in full:

From "The Washington Post," Monday, March 19, 2001 (Page A-7; Science Notes)

Cross-reference: "Nature," March 15, 2001 (British scientific journal.)

REPRESSION STUDY BACKS FREUD

One of the most controversial areas of psychology is whether it's really possible to repress memories. Some psychologists argue that it is, and that children often repress memories of physical or sexual abuse. Researchers have found new evidence supporting the idea, which was first put forth by Freud.

Michael C. Anderson and Collin Green of the University of Oregon in Eugene asked 32 college students to learn a list of pairs of unrelated words, such as "ordeal" and "roach." The students were presented with one of the words, then were asked to say the paired word or avoid thinking about it.

The subjects could recall more easily the paired word that they were asked to remember than the one they were asked not to think about.

"These findings thus support a supression mechanism that pushes unwanted memories out of awareness, as posited by Freud," the researchers wrote in the March 15 issue of Nature.

In an article accompanying the research, Martin A. Conway of the University of Bristol in England said the findings lend "support to Freud's original definition of repression; it unambiguously shows the existence of consciously initiated ... inhibition of memory.

"Even in the innocuous setting of the laboratory, and with stimuli as trivial as randomly paired words, powerful inhibition can be evoked. How much stronger must this inhibition be for objects central to our thoughts and emotions?" Conway wrote.

(End quote: Washington Post 3/19/01; Page A-7)

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CloudRider note: This topic is central to a range of issues, from "UFO abductions" to alleged (perceived) "mind control" victimizations, to "SRA" (satanic ritual abuse) and child sexual abuse & incest; as well as long-standing "Project Monarch" allegations of hypno-spy and hypno-sex ring activities (in and out of government, U. S. and "others"), some of which overlap the "UFO" and "alien abduction" publicity threads.

As such, the report in "Nature" and the bibliographical citations should be of more than passing interest to serious researchers into these phenomena, as broadly defined. "True Believers" will no doubt be unaffected, but nevertheless the dialogue will be altered by this research and the provocative conclusions its authors draw.

This material may also be of interest to therapists exploring "past life regression" and other so-called New Age paradigms, "paranormal" activity and transpersonal psychology, as anytime we uncover more "brain-mind" mysteries, everything past is altered and everything we believed we knew must be suspect. THAT IS SCIENCE!

- - - - + We suggest this be posted with attribution to "The Washington Post" and "Nature," so a wider discussion of these implications may be stimulated and conveyed online. It will, of course, be helpful to revisit some of the past "scientific debunking," as well as to scrutinize the debunkers of notoriety (having suspected past ties with "MK ULTRA" and other programs which these currently high-profile "academics" have spent the balances of their lifetimes "covering up," to the detriment of their victims.

A little research goes a long way toward "outing" scientists who've done bad stuff! It is important not to overstate or "overblow" this information, but it really ought to be considered. We'll be following the "content analysis" of how the debate proceeds, so any copies of specific dialogue about this topic and its impacts will be appreciated.

Thanks!

And "Follow the money!"

DF <cloudrider@aol.com>

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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 21:38:49 EST From: CloudRider@aol.com Subject: Research links Schizophrenia and Alzheimers?... (London; 3/15/01)

Wasn't very long ago that we were reading about researchers who believed that Schizophrenia had a viral etiology, (i.e., might be caused by a virus, opening up all sorts of possibilities for those looking into alleged "induced" schizophrenia, as its symptoms parallel those of some "UFO" or "alien contact" experiences and "psi."

As for Alzheimer's, there is steady info-flow from the "fringes" of the R & D folks, at least news-media wise, about Alzheimer's having at least some of its "triggers" in environmental insults, most notably aluminum compounds and organic halocarbon compounds, chlorinated products and other long-chain organic molecules such as might be found in some herbicides and pesticides, (many discontinued today). It's worth a look, as many topics (including alleged "mind control" or "alien abduction" perceptions among a rather significant sample) have brain-mind links or etiologies.

DF <cloudrider@aol.com>

From AOL Newswire:

New Research From the Institute of Psychiatry Links Schizophrenia and Alzheimer's Disease

LONDON, March 13 /PRNewswire/ -- Research from the Institute of Psychiatry, London, that offers a radical new approach to treating schizophrenia has received a substantial grant from the Stanley Foundation, a major mental health charity based in the United States. The new study developed by Dr. Tonmoy Sharma and his team involves giving an Alzheimer's drug for one year to people with schizophrenia.

Schizophrenia is best known for its so-called positive symptoms such as hallucinations or delusions. But cognitive difficulties - such as problems with memory, attention and decision making - are thought to be core and enduring features of schizophrenia. It is these cognitive problems that prevent many people with the condition from being independent, making friends or finding a job.

Older drug therapies target the positive symptoms of schizophrenia but do not help the cognitive problems. In fact, their associated side-effects mean that patients often have to take anticholinergic drugs as well, which lead to more cognitive problems. While newer antipsychotics cause fewer side effects and can sometimes improve cognition, up until now, cognitive problems in schizophrenia have not been a specific target for drug therapy.

In this study, 40 people with schizophrenia taking newer antipsychotic medication will also be given either placebo or rivastigmine, a drug that has been shown to conserve cognition in Alzheimer's disease. Researchers will test participants' memory, attention and planning skills during the trial to detect any cognitive improvements. They will also perform functional magnetic resonance imaging to see whether there are changes in the way the brain works.

Dr. Sharma was delighted to hear of the Stanley Foundation's decision: 'Cognitive problems are such a major part of schizophrenia that it is time they became a focus of treatment. This grant is an indication that the mental health community is beginning to take cognitive problems in schizophrenia more seriously. We are grateful to the Stanley Foundation for recognising the potential of this innovative research project.'

Notes:

The Institute of Psychiatry is based at the Maudsley Hospital and is part of King's College London.

For further information on the study contact visit our website on: www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/scp .

For more information on Alzheimer's disease and schizophrenia visit, www.emental-health.com .

For further information on the Stanley Foundation visit; www.stanleyresearch.org .

To find out more about Brain Awareness week visit, www.edab.net

SOURCE Institute of Psychiatry

CO: Institute of Psychiatry

ST: England

IN: MTC

SU:

03/13/2001 07:47 EST http://www.prnewswire.com

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Date: Wed, 21-Mar-2001 03:57:06 GMT From: James R. Rose <eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com> Subject: Continuing Saga

Physical frenzy as type entry. Bought computer and unable to link to internet. Phone company techs baffled. Overcharge for phone,$200. Phone number listed as Chandler Court and recieve phone calls evry morning beginning at 8 a.m. Walk to library, leg cramps each time, have to stop as walk. Aches, pains, rigid muscle and tendons, ears ringing noisily, heart rate unreal, burning sensations, bowel movements,urine movements, task iniciate-task interference, endless verbal sequences and repetitions to "kill" paired with "go" paired to "u", "your", etc.. quivering-shaking as write,skin red and flushed. People see and notice who have spoken with. Regular. Its ur mouth"u cant stand it"ur it"kil it" and the same with other nonsense syllables and CVCs. Forget routines endless, one irritant to the next, "go"go off"u de ser this"kill us all"ur all of us" (word-sequence arrangements as isolation-encapsulation contaiment field) endless "ur queer"quer ya"ur queer"quer ya" as type "its ur driv er"kil er"u did it"its us"_ _" (identifier(s)) Wake now 3148, sleep-stupor sleep is 348. Brady and Liddell. Half hour to one hour wake up when allowed to sleep. Hallucination action-reaction conditioning. Ears and head extensive pain as write. Throat muscle begin pain this morning and continues. "Kil"yeah yeah yeah" Later! ""All Is Vanity""

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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:30:53 -0500 From: "Allen L. Barker" <alb@datafilter.com> Subject: Re: [MC] List replies

Wes Thomas wrote: > > > An obvious troll > > What do you mean by "troll"? The usage on the Net I'm familiar with refers > to list spying.

from http://www.webster.com

Main Entry: 1 troll Pronunciation: 'trOl Function: verb Etymology: Middle English Date: 15th century transitive senses 1 : to cause to move round and round : ROLL 2 a : to sing the parts of (as a round or catch) in succession b : to sing loudly c : to celebrate in song 3 a : to fish for by trolling b : to fish by trolling in <troll lakes> c : to pull through the water in trolling <troll a lure> intransitive senses 1 : to move around : RAMBLE 2 : to fish by trailing a lure or baited hook from a moving boat 3 : to sing or play in a jovial manner 4 : to speak rapidly - troll·er noun

Main Entry: 2 troll Function: noun Date: 1869 : a lure or a line with its lure and hook used in trolling

A "troll" in the newsgroups or in a mailing list is a metaphor to the fishing usage above. It is a posting or article designed to draw responses, usually by pushing certain well-known "hot buttons" which people will almost always reply to. Often cross-posted to many inappropriate groups.

-- Allen L. Barker MC:TT&P --> http://www.datafilter.com/mc

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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:27:46 -0700 From: <shepard@yucca.net> Subject: Sattlite Computer Generated Holographic Projections:

Grettings: Being a mind controlled victim must be like prospecting. Once the ore has been located. You be come rich. I filed criminal charges today against the San Bernadino Sheriff's Headquarters with Sheriff Pin Rod.Charges for Violation of Civil Rights And Obstruction of ustice FederalStatues Tille 28 Section 453 And Title 42 Section 1983 1985 1986 And Notice of Seditious Conspiracy Under Title 18, Section 2384I must of hit pay dirt. I am here to let every body know that I am seeing computer generated sattilite holographic projectons. Artifical Intelligence beaming its Hollowen Geio SpOoK images. They are so thick that I can actually feel their harassment as they stick ungodly images in my face and other parts of the body. This must be Satanic rituals at work. The voices are so loud with words of we are going to kill you. Hmmmmm Sounds like a verbal threat. I never could fiqure out which was the worst. Them micro-waving me to death or their Synthetic Telepathy Bull Shit. Globaltwa.com seem to be a real threat to their tecknology. Any way, Not only have I hit pay dirt with the sheriff's headquarters. I now have footage on my cam recorder of their Satanic projections. BoO ! I see you.

shepard,

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Hearing for experiment bill in Massachusetts By 1927@glasscity.net

re: 'priests abuse of nuns' report By smartnews@aol.com

More Stuff By frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca

microwave audio By thefbiisthecatcherintherye@hotmail.com

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Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:15:39 -0800 From: Pat Mougey <1927@glasscity.net> CC: 1927@glasscity.net Subject: Hearing for experiment bill in Massachusetts

Since human beings are vertibrates they should be protected by this law:......

This is from Roy Bercaw, please do not reply to me.... _Pat Mougey _____________________________________________________________

Subject: hearing on experiment bill Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:49:43 -0500 From: "Roy Bercaw" <roybercaw@hotmail.com> To: roybercaw@hotmail.com

A hearing before the Massachusetts General Court, Committee on Education, Arts and Humanities will be held for a petition of Roy Bercaw, H 591, (text below) to regulate experiments on vertibrates and the practice of vivisection and the dissection of animals in certain medical and educational institutions in the Commonwealth of Massachsuetts. Since human beings are vertibrates they should be protected by this law. Current public policy at state and federal levels is to protect animals but not humans from medical research abuses.

Date: March 20, 2001 Time: 1:00 PM Place: Room B-2 The State House Park Street and Beacon Street Beacon Hill Boston MA 02133

If you can attend you are invited to testify; else you can send written comments to the Committee at:

Rep. Peter J. Larkin, Chairman Education, Arts and Humanities Committee The State House, Room 43 Boston MA 02133 617-722-2030

The current statute appears below with Roy Bercaw's proposed amendment identified by; ***(deleted words)*** ***[added words]***

GENERAL LAWS OF MASSACHUSETTS

PART IV. CRIMES, PUNISHMENTS AND PROCEEDINGS IN CRIMINAL CASES.

TITLE I.

CRIMES AND PUNISHMENTS.

CHAPTER 272. CRIMES AGAINST CHASTITY, MORALITY, DECENCY AND GOOD ORDER.

Chapter 272: Section 80G. Experiments on vertebrates; vivisection, dissection of animals; care.

Section 80G. No school principal, administrator or teacher ***[or [professors, researchers, institutions, medical professionals, HMO's, licensed professionals, medical associations, or educational institutions]*** shall allow any live vertebrate to be used in any elementary or high school ***[, college or any institution or facility private or public, whether or not]*** under state control or supported wholly or partly by public money of the state as part of a scientific experiment or for any other purpose in which said vertebrates are experimentally medicated or drugged in a manner to cause painful reactions or to induce painful or lethal pathological conditions, or in which said vertebrates are injured through any other type of treatment, experiment or procedure including but not limited to anesthetization or electric shock, ***[or any acoustic devices, devices which emit sounds or any form of energy, or devices which emit electromagnetic radiation]*** or where the normal health of said animal is interfered with or where pain or distress ***[or vertigo or disorientation]*** is caused.

No person shall, in the presence of a pupil in any elementary or high school under state control or supported wholly or partly by public money of the state, practice vivisection, or exhibit a vivisected animal. Dissection of dead animals or any portions thereof in such schools shall be confined to the class room and to the presence of pupils engaged in the study to be promoted thereby, and shall in no case be for the purpose of exhibition.

Live animals used as class pets or for purposes not prohibited in paragraphs one and two hereof in such schools shall be housed or cared for in a safe and humane manner. Said animals shall not remain in school over periods when such schools are not in session, unless adequate care is provided at all times.

The provisions of the preceding three paragraphs shall also apply to any activity associated with or sponsored by the school.

Whoever violates the provisions of this section shall be punished by a fine of not more than ***(one hundred dollars)*** ***[one hundred thousand dollars and or imprisonment for not less than five years nor more than 20 years in a jail or house of correction or both.]***

Roy Bercaw, Editor Watch ENOUGH ROOM L-I-V-E-! Tuesday 4:30 PM ET/ 1:30 PM PT Channel 9 Cambridge Community Television Video streamed (live only) at http://www.cctvcambridge.org Rebroadcast locally Wednesday 9:00 AM Eastern Time PO Box 400297 Cambridge MA 02140 USA roybercaw@hotmail.com

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Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 23:03:08 EST From: SMARTNEWS@aol.com Subject: re: 'priests abuse of nuns' report

Dear List,

Below find info on this article.

Sincerely, Neil Brick

This article may be heavy for survivors of abuse to read.

Vatican denies 'priests abuse of nuns' report - The Vatican has denied a report in the National Catholic Reporter that says sexual abuse of nuns by priests is a serious problem. The article is based on five reports by senior members of women's religious orders and a priest going back to 1994. The National Catholic Reporter said the reports have been discussed at top Vatican levels. from http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_249036.html

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Date: Thu, 22-Mar-2001 07:00:22 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: More Stuff

Some more reading material

http://www.parascope.com/dossier.htm

http://www.parascope.com/ds/articles/ciasubliminaldoc.htm

http://www.parascope.com/articles/1296/imager.htm

http://davidicke.www.50megs.com/icke/magazine/vol9/articles/desb2.html

http://elfis.org/elfol0/mkconsp/apcia.txt

http://www.azstarnet.com/~freetht/puharich.htm

JV

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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:01:29 -0000 From: "Catcher of The Catcher in the Rye" <thefbiisthecatcherintherye@hotmail.com> Subject: microwave audio

In reply to : "MORE STUFF"

Does anyone have the circuits or schematics to a microwave-audio device which is able to create the sensation of audio in the human head on a conscious basis and doesn't use the human ears to do so ?

If so, please post them here or let us know where they are posted

Some info :

http://www.raven1.net/v2s-kohn.htm

http://www.raven1.net/v2ssp.gif

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http://www.parascope.com/dossier.htm

http://www.parascope.com/ds/articles/ciasubliminaldoc.htm

http://www.parascope.com/articles/1296/imager.htm

http://davidicke.www.50megs.com/icke/magazine/vol9/articles/desb2.html

http://elfis.org/elfol0/mkconsp/apcia.txt

http://www.azstarnet.com/~freetht/puharich.htm

JV

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RE: microwave audio By frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca

RE: microwave audio By frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca

Dutch microwave audio patent By thefbiisthecatcherintherye@hotmail.com

RE: Dutch microwave audio patent By frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca

RE: microwave audio By frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca

MKULTRA By e.maatkamp@hccnet.nl

Out of state Caller By packrat@texas.net

"Telepathic" Gunman Kills 2 In N. Carolina By abemarf@aol.com

RE: Out of state Caller By frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca

Re: only one savior By e.maatkamp@hccnet.nl

Mindcontrol and Billy Graham's Deception By e.maatkamp@hccnet.nl

Congressional Record 3 20 01 On Directed Energy & on lethal use of force By 1927@glasscity.net

RE: only one savior By west@sonic.net

RE: only one savior By e.maatkamp@hccnet.nl

RE: only one savior By west@sonic.net

Re: only one savior By e.maatkamp@hccnet.nl

More Murder And Mayhem In The Carolinas By abemarf@aol.com

re: Psychological Abuse May Cause Changes in Brain By smartnews@aol.com

MC: Spooks, Cyber-goons declare open season on whistleblowers/Fwd By ecotoday@aol.com

microwave audio : BULLSHIT, MR. VINCENT ! By thefbiisthecatcherintherye@hotmail.com

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Date: Thu, 22-Mar-2001 10:40:26 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: RE: microwave audio

Catcher of The Catcher in the Rye wrote: > > In reply to : "MORE STUFF" > > Does anyone have the circuits or schematics to a microwave-audio device > which is able to create the sensation of audio in the human head on a > conscious basis and doesn't use the human ears to do so ? >

Below is a URL to a patent issued for a Microwave Audio Effect Hearing Aid design which is intended as a hearing aid for the deaf. It refences older schemes which used external emitters. It also references some of the drawbacks of the older system designs that include subject heating due to the "Magnetron Heating Effect". This is a result of higher field density requirments when using external emitters. Rapid heating is often a complaint of Electronic Harassment and MC victims. The design and description is quite detailed.

http://www.delphion.com/cgi-bin/viewpat.cmd/WO09310730A1

JV

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Date: Thu, 22-Mar-2001 10:52:29 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: RE: microwave audio

John Vincent wrote: > > Catcher of The Catcher in the Rye wrote: > > > > In reply to : "MORE STUFF" > > > > Does anyone have the circuits or schematics to a microwave-audio device > > which is able to create the sensation of audio in the human head on a > > conscious basis and doesn't use the human ears to do so ? > > > > Below is a URL to a patent issued for a Microwave Audio Effect Hearing > Aid design which is intended as a hearing aid for the deaf. > It refences older schemes which used external emitters. It also > references some of the drawbacks of the older system designs that > include subject heating due to the "Magnetron Heating Effect". This is a > > result of higher field density requirments when using external emitters. > > Rapid heating is often a complaint of Electronic Harassment and MC > victims. The design and description is quite detailed. > > http://www.delphion.com/cgi-bin/viewpat.cmd/WO09310730A1 > > JV

Daaaa, as a followup to the above, patent. Unfortunatly, people who were profoundly deaf and actually benefited from the above mentioned device or any such similar devices would also have to be forcably confined and treated for Schizophrenia under Canadian Law. Probably the reason why it may not be terribly popular as a remedy for deafness. The Canadian public payed good money to perpetrate the MC scam on the public and they'll be damned if that gets interfered with by trivialities like legitament medical uses.

JV

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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:00:53 -0000 From: "Catcher of The Catcher in the Rye" <thefbiisthecatcherintherye@hotmail.com> Subject: Dutch microwave audio patent

I physically examined & tested the Dutch microwave-audio device. I also back-engineered its circuits. Unfortubately, IT DOESN'T WORK !!! AT ALL !!! ------------------------ John Vincent wrote:

Catcher of The Catcher in the Rye wrote:

In reply to : "MORE STUFF"

Does anyone have the circuits or schematics to a microwave-audio device which is able to create the sensation of audio in the human head on a conscious basis and doesn't use the human ears to do so ?

Below is a URL to a patent issued for a Microwave Audio Effect Hearing Aid design which is intended as a hearing aid for the deaf. It refences older schemes which used external emitters. It also references some of the drawbacks of the older system designs that include subject heating due to the "Magnetron Heating Effect". This is a

result of higher field density requirments when using external emitters.

Rapid heating is often a complaint of Electronic Harassment and MC victims. The design and description is quite detailed.

http://www.delphion.com/cgi-bin/viewpat.cmd/WO09310730A1

JV Daaaa, as a followup to the above, patent. Unfortunatly, people who were profoundly deaf and actually benefited from the above mentioned device or any such similar devices would also have to be forcably confined and treated for Schizophrenia under Canadian Law. Probably the reason why it may not be terribly popular as a remedy for deafness. The Canadian public payed good money to perpetrate the MC scam on the public and they'll be damned if that gets interfered with by trivialities like legitament medical uses.

JV

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Date: Thu, 22-Mar-2001 11:32:09 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: RE: Dutch microwave audio patent

Catcher of The Catcher in the Rye wrote: > > I physically examined & tested the Dutch microwave-audio device. I also > back-engineered its circuits. Unfortubately, IT DOESN'T WORK !!! AT ALL > !!! > ------------------------

Good, because if it did work and you travelled with it to Canada, you would be Psychciatrically imprisoned.

JV

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Date: Thu, 22-Mar-2001 12:07:45 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: RE: microwave audio

Catcher of The Catcher in the Rye wrote: > > In reply to : "MORE STUFF" > > Does anyone have the circuits or schematics to a microwave-audio device > which is able to create the sensation of audio in the human head on a > conscious basis and doesn't use the human ears to do so ? > > If so, please post them here or let us know where they are posted >

Simply asking this question in the wrong places in Canada will get you Psychciatrically Imprisoned ... permanently.

JV

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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:59:42 +0100 From: "Ed" <e.maatkamp@hccnet.nl> Subject: MKULTRA

Those who know of MKULTRA know that Dr. Sidney Gottlieb was the leading figure there. Isn't it a great coincidence that in the Pretender TV series and movies the programmer of the children is also a man named Sidney? This is just too obvious no go unnoticed

Ed

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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:22:49 -0600 From: Sueann Campbell <packrat@texas.net> Subject: Out of state Caller

Glory be!

Talked to an out of state caller Tuesday who is having heavy street theater. The caller talked for 4 hours and said my web site really hit home and followed exactly the harassment being done to him/her. He/she thanked me profusely for putting up the web site and said he/she had already posted a link to the site on every news service and bulletin board he/she could find.

This just makes my day! God bless the caller! God bless all the survivors! God bless the perps that they may see the evil that they do and quit! Pray for them to just walk off the job and turn informant!

Sueann

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Date: Thu, 22-Mar-2001 15:36:12 GMT From: Martin F. Abernathy <abemarf@aol.com> Cc: RMNEWS_DAILY_EMAILS@yahoogroups.com

Subject: "Telepathic" Gunman Kills 2 In N. Carolina

LAWYER DESCRIBES DEFENDANT'S BELIEFS, OPENING ARGUMENTS MADE IN CHAPEL HILL SHOOTING SPREE-- LAWYER: DEFENDANT SAW SELF AS TELEPATH

Charlotte Observer, Thursday, October 26, 1995 by ESTES THOMPSON, Associated Press Page number 3C

HILLSBOROUGH - A man charged with killing two people during a random shooting spree in Chapel Hill believed he could hear other people's thoughts, a defense lawyer said Wednesday. Wendell Justin Williamson also thought he, and he alone, could save the world from destruction, public defender James Williams told the jury during opening remarks in the double-murder trial.

Williamson, 26, has admitted firing the shots Jan. 26 that killed restaurant worker Ralph Walker, 42, and UNC-Chapel Hill student Kevin Reichardt, 20. Williamson has been diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic with delusions, and he has pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity. A prosecutor said Williamson is a calculating killer who planned his actions and took 600 rounds of ammunition when he went on a well-planned murder spree.

Williamson carried 75 eight-round clips of ammunition, wore a black T-shirt with a skull on it and taped his boot laces so they wouldn't trip him, District Attorney Carl Fox told the jury.

Key to Williamson's defense is his belief that he was a telepath. ``He felt if he was not acknowledged as a telepath, something would happen that would destroy the world,'' Williams told the nine-woman, three-man jury.

Williamson is charged with two first-degree murder charges and could face the death penalty if convicted. He also is charged with wounding a police officer, shooting into a dwelling and attempted murder for shots fired at other people.

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WAS GUNMAN'S BEHAVIOR AN EARLY WARNING? FORMER LAW STUDENT'S ACTIONS DREW ATTENTION WELL BEFORE HE OPENED FIRE IN CHAPEL HILL.

Charlotte Observer, Wednesday, November 1, 1995 Associated Press Page number 1C

HILLSBOROUGH - The former law student charged with shooting two people to death in January had acted strangely as early as his freshman year in law school, fellow students testified Tuesday. Wendell Williamson, 26, of Clyde is charged with two counts of first-degree murder. He was arrested after stalking people along Henderson Street in Chapel Hill on Jan. 26, firing an M-1 military rifle.

Williamson has pleaded innocent by reason of insanity and his defense lawyers began calling witnesses to trace the defendant's mental history. The last of 32 prosecution witnesses was a police officer who testified that Williamson's fingerprints were on the weapon and its ammunition. J. Patrick Huber, a 1994 UNC-Chapel Hill law graduate, testified that he heard Williamson howling and saw him hit himself on Sept. 29, 1992, outside the law school building.

``His face was extremely distorted,'' Huber said. ``He was very red.'' Police officers took Williamson to the university hospital, where he was interviewed the next day by a psychology graduate student. ``He was making me very nervous,'' testified Joseph McClintock, the student who interviewed Williamson. Williamson told him there was a ``thing'' that lived in his spinal cord that could punish him for thoughts and behaviors. The voice once told Williamson to stop smoking, McClintock said.

The thing told Williamson what others said about him and had a voice that was likable and honest. ``He said I would like the voice,'' McClintock testified. But the ``thing'' had the power to punish Williamson, McClintock said, and one punishment was the ability to make Williamson's underwear smell bad.

``The thing doesn't want him to go to law school,'' the psychologist testified. ``He should beg for money until some girl came along and took him home.'' During the testimony about voices, the psychologist was interrupted when voices from a citizen's band radio conversation were picked up by the courtroom public address system.

A UNC psychiatrist testified that Williamson was released in 1992 by a judge despite doctors' opinions that he should remain hospitalized. Dr. Christina Mickiewicz testified that medical staff thought Williamson was schizophrenic and that he was still psychotic several days after the incident in which he hit himself and howled.

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JURORS HEAR TAPED ADMISSION OF SLAYINGS-- DEFENDANT ASKED FOR RECOGNITION AS TELEPATH AFTER CHAPEL HILL SHOOTING SPREE

Charlotte Observer, Friday, November 3, 1995 by ESTES THOMPSON, Associated Press Page number 1C

HILLSBOROUGH - The former UNC-Chapel Hill law student who admits killing two people during a Chapel Hill shooting spree talked to a jury Thursday without taking the witness stand. ``I killed the people,'' Wendell Williamson said at one point on a poor-quality tape that was played during his first-degree murder trial. He also said he was telepathic.

``I would be satisfied with one of two things - the death penalty or admission that I'm a telepath,'' Williamson said on the tape. The tape, made during a police interview, was played by defense lawyers, who tried last week to have it excluded from evidence. Williamson, who has been diagnosed as paranoid schizophrenic, has pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity. The defense finished calling witnesses by midafternoon Thursday and was expected to rest today after the prosecutor cross-examines a witness.

Closing arguments will follow - either today or Monday. The father of one victim bowed his head, and the sister of another victim cried as the tape was played. Williamson stared at his attorney's table as he listened to himself talking rapidly about being telepathic. Williamson, 27, is on trial in Orange County Superior Court on first-degree murder charges in the deaths of restaurant worker Ralph Walker, 42, and Kevin Reichardt, 20, a UNC lacrosse player from Annapolis, Md. If convicted, he could face the death penalty.

Nicole Wolfe, a psychiatrist at Dorothea Dix Hospital, a state-run mental institution. ``He did not appreciate the wrongfulness of his conduct.'' Williamson also is charged with wounding a police officer, shooting into a dwelling and attempted murder for shots fired at other people. On cross-examination, Wolfe told District Attorney Carl Fox that there was no medical test for insanity and that someone could be a paranoid schizophrenic and not be violent or legally insane.

Legal insanity is a condition in which a mental illness renders a defendant incapable of telling right from wrong.

``He knew shooting people was wrong, but the reasons why he shot them were different,'' Wolfe said. She also said the shootings were the only way Williamson knew to tell the world of his telepathic powers. ``He was so delusional he thought he might have to shoot hundreds of people in Chapel Hill in order for the knowledge he was a telepath to get out of town,'' Wolfe said. ``He thought he would get a Congressional Medal of Honor for the act.''

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MARtin F. ABErnathy [abemarf@aol.com]

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Date: Thu, 22-Mar-2001 15:46:36 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: RE: Out of state Caller

Sueann Campbell wrote: > Glory be! > > Talked to an out of state caller Tuesday who is having

Here's another link

http://www.icom.ca/~mccoy

JV

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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:52:36 +0100 From: "Ed" <e.maatkamp@hccnet.nl> Subject: Re: only one savior

http://hermes.spaceports.com/~eddy4god/Icke's-Faith.htm

This site explains Icke's false belief-system Ed

-----Original

It was brilliant receiving such a quick response to my searching the internet on the latin words on the one dollar bill. I have known about the conspiracy for about 20years now. Before Rhodesia, S.W.A. and South Africa fell into the hands of the communists I was receiving mail called "The Signpost". Of course most people one talks to think that we are crazy. Once the scales have been removed from our eyes everything falls into place. Our great Saviour had to overcome not only death, but also the powers of spiritual darkness when he went to the cross. I have a few friends who also can see everything unfolding, the One World Government, the One World Church and of course The United Nations playing such an important role in causing havoc everywhere.

Have you read any of David Ike's books. I went to hear him when he came to S.A. but walked out when he started on his theories of the spiritual side of man. Very interesting except not very sure about the reptilian side of it. Unless it is the demonic powers in action.

Hope to hear from you and also I would like to know some other books I could read on the subject. It is getting very difficult to find literature these days as they seem to be disappearing off the shelves.

Praise to our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ for the wonderful gift of eternal life and for the work of the Holy Spirit who has set us free.

Yours because I am his Beverley

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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 20:01:27 +0100 From: "Ed" <e.maatkamp@hccnet.nl> Subject: Mindcontrol and Billy Graham's Deception

http://hermes.spaceports.com/~eddy4god/Manipulation.htm

http://hermes.spaceports.com/~eddy4god/Graham.htm

Ed

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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:59:16 -0800 From: Pat Mougey <1927@glasscity.net> CC: 1927@glasscity.net Subject: Congressional Record 3 20 01 On Directed Energy & on lethal use of force

Congressional Record: March 20, 2001 (Senate) Page S2571-S2572

DIRECTED ENERGY AND NON-LETHAL USE OF FORCE

Mr. DOMENICI. Mr. President, I rise today to discuss a serious and effective use of new technologies in our military operations. While I will focus on a specific directed energy technology, the Joint Non- Lethal Weapons Program Office is involved in many other research areas that provide innovative solutions to our military men and women in their daily missions. Recently, the Marines unveiled a device known as Active Denial Technology, ADT. This is a non-lethal weapons system based on a microwave source. This device, mounted on a humvee or other mobile platform, could serve as a riot control method in our peacekeeping operations or in other situations involving civilians. This project and technology was kept classified until very recently. The Pentagon noted that further testing, both on humans and, evidently, goats will be done to ensure that it truly is a non-lethal method of crowd control or a means to disperse potentially hostile mobs. The notion that the Pentagon is using ``microwaves'' on humans, and especially on animals, has inflamed some human and animal rights groups. Among others it has simply sparked fear that a new weapon exists that will fry people. This is not the case. And, unfortunately, few of the media reports offer sufficient detail or comparisons to clarify the value of such a system or put its use in perspective. While ADT is ``tunable,'' the energy cannot be ``tuned up'' to a level that would immediately cause permanent damage to human subjects. The technology does not cause injury due to the low energy levels used. ADT does cause heat-induced pain that is nearly identical to briefly touching a lightbulb that has been on for a while. However, unlike a hot lightbulb, the energy propagated at this level does not cause rapid burning. Within a few seconds the pain induced by this energy beam is intended to cause the subject to run away rather than to continue to experience pain. Such technologies have never before been used in a military or peacekeeping endeavor. Therefore, there is

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naturally suspicion or fear of the unknown and usually the worst is imagined. I believe this is unwarranted, especially when one considers the currently available options in these types of military situations. Think of 1993 in Somalia. The U.S. lost 18 soldiers and somewhere between 500 and 1,000 Somalis were killed on the streets of Mogadishu. The Somalis used children as human shields, and our military was forced to fire on angry crowds of civilians, some civilians having automatic rifles and grenades. Peacekeeping operations are not void of lethal threats. Oftentimes our military is confronted with armed civilians or situations where unarmed, defenseless civilians are intermixed and indistinguishable from persons possessing lethal means. Regardless of the new Administration's approach to involvement of the U.S. military in non-traditional operations, I believe these types of missions will continue to be a staple of our military's daily operations for a long time to come. Further, these missions often involve situations that render U.S. soldiers vulnerable or threaten the lives of innocent civilians. I believe that the applications of directed energy technologies in these and other operations can provide a more humane and militarily effective approach. Active denial technology is merely one device on a list of research and development endeavors currently underway by the Pentagon's Joint Non-Lethal Weapons Program. I would encourage my colleagues to get briefed on the mission and projects in the Non-Lethal Weapons Program. Further, I believe that the tunability of microwave and laser technologies will offer a palette of readily available options to address operational needs in both traditional and non-traditional military operations, and I fully support further funding of research in this area.

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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 13:10:58 -0800 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> Subject: RE: [MC] only one savior

> not very > sure about the reptilian side of it. Unless it is the demonic powers in > action.

From the http://hermes.spaceports.com/~eddy4god/Icke's-Faith.htm , it appears that Icke is either a victim or a controller, or both. His ideas are too wacky to take seriously, but the question is: does belief in a "reptilian side" and "demonic powers" make one more suspectible to mind control? Satanic ceremonies, Catholic exorcisms and "alien abductions" following certain meditation exercises (Whitley Streiber is an example) appear to support this idea, since all of these are hypnotic induction ceremonies that create dissociated alters.

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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 22:12:43 +0100 From: "Ed" <e.maatkamp@hccnet.nl> Subject: RE: only one savior

Those who are not saved are already under the control of the evil one, the master programmer. Icke believes in the "reptilian brain" in humans as a leftover from the evolution process. Springmeier also speaks about the condition of mind as "reptilian" so as to explain the "survivor-instinct" in man. But Springmeier does believe in the creation account. Icke looks too much like a showman too

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From the http://hermes.spaceports.com/~eddy4god/Icke's-Faith.htm , it appears that Icke is either a victim or a controller, or both. His ideas are too wacky to take seriously, but the question is: does belief in a "reptilian side" and "demonic powers" make one more suspectible to mind control? Satanic ceremonies, Catholic exorcisms and "alien abductions" following certain meditation exercises (Whitley Streiber is an example) appear to support this idea, since all of these are hypnotic induction ceremonies that create dissociated alters.

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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:08:09 -0800 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> Subject: RE: [MC] only one savior

> Those who are not saved are already under the control of the evil one, > the master programmer.

So the billions of non-fundamentalist Christians in the world are all mind control victims? Hmmm...we've got our work cut out for us on this list! :-)

I wonder if there's a Buddhist or Moslem mind control list where they are saying the same thing about Christians.

> humans as a leftover from the evolution process. Springmeier also > speaks about the condition of mind as "reptilian"

Right, this is basic neurophysiology. The primitive brain (brain stem structures, including medulla, pons, cerebellum) evolved from the reptile brain, See http://www.epub.org.br/cm/n05/mente/limbic_i.htm .

Icke is talking about something entirely different, claiming he has "seen people had seen people in positions of power, not exclusively so, but overwhelmingly so, turn into a reptilian form and then go back to human" and not asking the obvious: are they having acid flashbacks? (http://www.davidicke.com/icke/articles/aliens.html ).

Lster he says about Cathy O'Brien:

"She talks about being with George Bush, and him saying that they were an extraterrestrial race that came from a "far off space place" who'd taken over the world, and no one realized it because they look human. But, she said, he changed in front of her into a reptile. She talked about being with the Bennett brothers, these politicians, political figures in America, and how they put her through a mind-control program in which they said they came from another dimension and they were inter-dimensional beings."

The rational explanation is that she was under the influence of drugs and/or hypnosis. By pushing the "alien" explanation, he makes readers and listeners more susceptible to such mind-control tactics. The question is: is this intentional or a result of his own mind control experiences?

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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 23:21:36 +0100 From: "Ed" <e.maatkamp@hccnet.nl> Subject: Re: only one savior

>> Those who are not saved are already under the control of the evil one, >> the master programmer.

>So the billions of non-fundamentalist Christians in the world are all mind >control victims? Hmmm...we've got our work cut out for us on this list! :-)

Well, being saved does not depend on being "fundamentalist" or not, but on what the fundament is the christian believes in. There is oine Fundament and that is Christ.

>I wonder if there's a Buddhist or Moslem mind control list where they are >saying the same thing about Christians.

O I know that for sure. But I have found in debates with muslems that they go away soon because they do not have the right answers

> humans as a leftover from the evolution process. Springmeier also > speaks about the condition of mind as "reptilian"

Right, this is basic neurophysiology. The primitive brain (brain stem structures, including medulla, pons, cerebellum) evolved from the reptile brain, See http://www.epub.org.br/cm/n05/mente/limbic_i.htm .

If you believe in evolution perhaps. Or are you referring to development in the womb? Because I for one, reject evolution as a scientific fact, and even as a science as a whole.

>Icke is talking about something entirely different, claiming he has "seen >people had seen people in positions of power, not exclusively so, but >overwhelmingly so, turn into a reptilian form and then go back to human" and >not asking the obvious: are they having acid flashbacks? >(http://www.davidicke.com/icke/articles/aliens.html ).

I know a woman whom I talked to very often, who has also seen reptilians. if they appear they are either materialized evil spirits, or hybryds of genetic experiements, or as you say hallucinations.

>Lster he says about Cathy O'Brien:

>"She talks about being with George Bush, and him saying that they were an >extraterrestrial race that came from a "far off space place" who'd taken >over the world, and no one realized it because they look human. But, she >said, he changed in front of her into a reptile. She talked about being with >the Bennett brothers, these politicians, political figures in America, and >how they put her through a mind-control program in which they said they came >from another dimension and they were inter-dimensional beings."

>The rational explanation is that she was under the influence of drugs and/or >hypnosis. By pushing the "alien" explanation, he makes readers and listeners >more susceptible to such mind-control tactics. The question is: is this >intentional or a result of his own mind control experiences?

Well i do not know. But you can let people believe things very easily. Some say Al Gore shapeshifted on TV during the presidential debate, hehe

Ed

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Date: Thu, 22-Mar-2001 22:43:11 GMT From: M. F. Abernathy <abemarf@aol.com> Cc: RMNEWS_DAILY_EMAILS@yahoogroups.com

Subject: More Murder And Mayhem In The Carolinas

What's happening in the Carolinas? They sure seem to have a *lot* of 'paranoid schizophrenics"...

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MENTALLY ILL OR READY FOR TRIAL? MAN MIGHT BE TRIED IN MOTHER'S KILLING

CHARLOTTE OBSERVER, SUNDAY May 15, 1988 by GARY L. WRIGHT, Staff Writer Page number 1A

(CHARLOTTE) - In a Dec. 1, 1984, letter to Mecklenburg mental health officials, Emily Cannon described her frustration in trying to get help for her mentally disturbed and often violent 20-year-old son. Four days later the 40-year-old South Mecklenburg High School history teacher was dead - beaten with a blunt object, cut with a butcher knife and dumped in a patch of woods in northwest Charlotte.

For 3 1/2 years since, her son and accused killer, Bobby Cannon, has lived in state mental hospitals, judged mentally ill and unable to stand trial. Now, however, a state psychiatrist reports improvement in the man who once said God told him to kill his mother. Bobby Cannon, says Dr. Patricio Lara, is capable of standing trial.

Lara's report has touched off a fight over releasing Cannon from Broughton Hospital in Morganton for return to face murder charges in Mecklenburg County. Mecklenburg Assistant District Attorney Gentry Caudill wants to try Cannon this summer, and has announced he'll seek the death penalty. Cannon's attorneys, Mecklenburg Public Defender Isabel Day and Harold Bender, believe Cannon, now 23, is still mentally ill. They have asked that the trial be delayed until another hearing to determine whether Cannon is competent.

In an interview last week, Robert Cannon said his son should not be held accountable for his former wife's slaying. "The boy is not well," said the 47-year-old principal at Huntingtowne Farms Elementary School. "I doubt if he ever will be. He knows his mother is dead. He has an understanding that he took his mother's life. "As to why it happened, I doubt he will ever understand."

Bobby Cannon, who once said he "hears voices of trillions of other people" telling him what to do, was first declared mentally ill and committed to Broughton following a competency hearing in April 1985. Cannon had received psychiatric care since he was a senior at West Charlotte High School in 1981. Once a model student, his grades suddenly dropped off and his teachers said he seemed a different person. In September 1982 he attacked his mother for the first time, threatening her with a screwdriver. The next day he was voluntarily committed to the Mecklenburg County Mental Health Center.

Psychiatrists, however, said Bobby Cannon was not mentally ill at the time and discharged him. Less than a month later, he attacked both his parents with a board. Robert Cannon required emergency medical treatment and stitches. Emily Cannon was knocked unconscious and hospitalized for a week. Bobby Cannon's psychiatric treatment continued off and on until Emily Cannon was killed in December 1984.

During the 1985 competency hearing, Cannon was described by psychiatrists as a chronic paranoid schizophrenic and a danger to himself and others. In court documents filed at the Mecklenburg County Courthouse, Day said Cannon was unable to differentiate between reality and delusion.

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PSYCHOLOGIST SAYS SHOOTING SUSPECT IS SCHIZOPHRENIC CHARLOTTE OBSERVER, FRIDAY April 7, 1989 Associated Press Page number 5D

WINSTON-SALEM - A psychologist testified Thursday that Michael Charles Hayes is a paranoid schizophrenic who was suffering delusions the night four people were killed and five were wounded by gunfire. Dr. Jerry Wayne Noble, who spent about 12 hours testing and interviewing Hayes after the shootings, found that the 25-year-old moped mechanic was operating under a variety of misbeliefs July 17, including that he was on a mission from God to rid the world of demons.

In interviews with Noble, Hayes said God spoke to him at least three times before the shootings and told him he would know the demons by their "glazed eyes, fixed stares, the odor of their breath and by their not knowing their way around."

Hayes of Davidson County is charged with four counts of murder and eight counts of assault stemming from a rampage in which a .22-caliber rifle was fired at motorists passing through a Forsyth County neighborhood. Noble's statements followed testimony by acquaintances and family members that they had noticed drastic changes in Hayes' behavior. The defendant's wife of four years, Karen Hayes, testified Thursday that she had left her husband days before the incident because he had been acting strangely and had failed to come home nights.

Judge James Beaty Jr. disallowed some of her testimony. Still, the judge allowed Noble to relate statements she made while Noble was gathering her husband's medical history.

In the week before the shootings, she told Noble, Hayes had become unusually irritable. On the Wednesday before the killings - the day she left him - she said, he called her demon-possessed. By Friday, he told her, he had found seven or eight new girlfriends, had wealth in the millions of dollars and would soon be going on tour with the rock group Van Halen.

Hayes' attorneys, Gregory Davis and Michael Grace, argue that the defendant was insane when the shootings occurred. Noble said he found the defendant able to stand trial. But the psychologist said he did not think Hayes understood that he had killed four people.

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MAN SEEKS TO LEAVE MENTAL HOSPITAL CHARLOTTE OBSERVER, THURSDAY July 13, 1989 Associated Press Page number 3B

WINSTON-SALEM - Three months after being found not guilty by reason of insanity in the shooting deaths of four people, Michael Charles Hayes is trying to win his release from a state mental hospital, a prosecutor says. "I think he has a hearing next week," said Eric Saunders, an assistant district attorney who helped prosecute Hayes. "That's what I've been informed. At this point, it's being contested. That means that the attorney who is representing Michael Hayes is contesting his confinement."

Hayes was found not guilty April 14 of killing four people and wounding five others the night of July 17, 1988. He told investigators he was killing "demons." He was ordered committed to Dorothea Dix Hospital in Raleigh but can be released under state law when a doctor rules that he is no longer a danger to himself or others.

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WOMAN GETS LIFE FOR MURDERING SCHIZOPHRENIC BROTHER CHARLOTTE OBSERVER, THURSDAY May 25, 1989 by DIANE SUCHETKA, Staff Writer Page number 1A

CHESTER, S.C. - Lothell Tate sobbed Wednesday as 6th Circuit Judge Don Rushing told her the way she murdered her schizophrenic brother "truly was horrible" and then sentenced her to life in prison. "It was as brutal and dispassionate a murder as I've had a chance to see as a trial judge," Rushing told Tate, 32, in Chester County General Sessions Court.

"The law of the state is clear . . . that you be committed to life in prison." Tate, of Gastonia, cried softly, wiped her nose with a tissue and made no comment as officers led her from the courtroom after the guilty verdict was announced at 2:30 p.m. Her mother, Pauline Wilkerson, crying afterward, refused to comment. She was the only family member in the courtroom when the two-day trial ended.

Jurors had deliberated for about an hour. Tate must serve a minimum of 20 years, but public defender Tyre Lee told the judge he will appeal. He could not be reached for comment after the trial. Tate, who confessed to police and jurors that she shot her brother Malcoum Tate 13 times in December, said she did it because she loved him, and life with him "was a living hell."

"I was scared that Malcoum was going to come in the house and hurt somebody or kill somebody . . . ," she told the jury during 45 minutes of testimony Tuesday. "I was scared. I was scared for my daughter." According to testimony, Lothell Tate and Wilkerson drove Malcoum Tate from Gastonia to Chester County late Dec. 18.

When Malcoum Tate stepped onto the roadside to relieve himself, Lothell shot him, reloaded her mother's .25-caliber semi-automatic gun and shot him again. When she felt no pulse, Lothell Tate and her mother rolled Malcoum Tate's body into a gully, covered it with leaves and a dog food bag and drove home.

"I said to Malcoum, I said, Malcoum, I love you, and I only want what's best for you, and I'm sorry,' and I shot him . . . ," Lothell Tate said Tuesday between sobs. "And I told him again, Malcoum, I love you, and I'm sorry,' and I shot him again until he quit moving." Wilkerson, 62, of Gastonia, also has been charged with murder. Her trial will likely begin in July, and Justice has said charges against her could be reduced.

Malcoum Tate, 34, had been diagnosed with schizophrenia at least as early as 1977. He had been hospitalized five times. Lothell and other family members have said Malcoum threatened them and said he believed God was telling him to kill Lothell Tate's daughter, now 8, and other family members. He kicked down their apartment door one morning last fall, and the family was evicted, Lothell Tate said.

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SUSPECT IN KILLING RULED INCOMPETENT CHARLOTTE OBSERVER, WEDNESDAY July 19, 1989 by ED MARTIN, Staff Writer Page number 4B

(CHARLOTTE) - A man who was in and out of the mental health system for a decade before he was accused of killing a Charlotte businessman was ruled incompetent to stand trial Tuesday. Tony Harrison, 36, is a chronic schizophrenic who couldn't tell right from wrong when George Kaloudis was shot to death on June 1, says the report of Dr. Bob Rollins, state forensic psychiatrist.

In his report to Mecklenburg County Superior Court Judge Kenneth Griffin, Rollins says Harrison does not understand the murder charge against him and cannot help his attorney prepare his defense. Police say Harrison walked into Kaloudis's home, either by mistake or in search of food, and shot Kaloudis when confronted. Kaloudis, 59, was a Greek immigrant who often talked about his love for America. He had operated several restaurants.

Harrison had been committed to state mental hospitals four times, dating to the early 1980s. Harrison's Glenwood Drive neighbors in northwest Charlotte say his behavior became increasingly strange before Kaloudis's death. They said they often saw him kneeling in his driveway or in their yards, laughing, talking to himself and praying.

In March, three months before the shooting, Harrison told his sister that "devils and angels" were telling him to kill someone. Family members tried to have him involuntarily committed to a state hospital.

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SUMTER MAN GETS LIFE TERMS: SUSPECT ENTERS GUILTY BUT MENTALLY ILL PLEA The State (Columbia, SC), TUESDAY November 22, 1988 by JAN TUTEN, Camden Bureau Page number 1C

A Sumter man charged with a string of crimes that included four murders and assaults on two other people pleaded guilty but mentally ill Monday. Circuit Judge James M. Morris sentenced Phillip Johnson, 28, to eight consecutive life terms plus an additional 141 years during a hearing that initially was scheduled for pretrial motions.

The guilty but mentally ill plea means Johnson will receive psychiatric counseling before he becomes a member of the main prison population. Prosecutors had intended to seek the death penalty against Johnson. His trial had been set for Dec. 5. Third Circuit Solicitor Wade S. Kolb Jr. said prosecutors and defense attorneys had been discussing a plea ''for some time'' and reached an agreement Monday. The investigating officers and the victims' families agreed to the plea arrangement, Kolb said.

''That and the factor of his mental illness and the Limmie Arthur decision ,made us decide not to go forward with seeking the death penalty,'' Kolb said. The South Carolina Supreme Court in October reversed a death penalty conviction for Arthur, a Richland County man with an IQ of 65 and the mental capacity of a 10-year-old.

The high court ruled in that case that a trial judge must go to great lengths in determining if a defendant fully understands his rights. Johnson, who also is mentally retarded with an IQ of 62, had been found competent to stand trial, Kolb said, but also was diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic. Kolb said the state's sole evidence in the four murders was a confession, during which Johnson claimed ''evil spirits'' told him to commit the crimes.

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S.C. KILLER SCHIZOPHRENIC, HIS BEHAVIOR 'BIZARRE,' PSYCHIATRIST TESTIFIES CHARLOTTE OBSERVER, FRIDAY June 1, 1990 Associated Press Page number 3D

COLUMBIA, SC - Death row inmate Larry Gene Bell is a lunatic who believes he is Jesus Christ, smears himself with excrement and urinates in drinks, his lawyers and a psychiatrist say. At a court hearing, Dr. Jonas Rappeport, a Baltimore forensic psychiatrist, said Bell, formerly of Charlotte, is a paranoid schizophrenic whose inability to perceive reality has gotten worse as he has gotten older. He said Bell hears voices, including that of the sister of one of his murder victims, and often falls into trances.

"He thinks people know his thoughts and ideas around the world," Rappeport said. "This is an individual who goes off into bizarre, unusual behavior for reasons that are not obvious to anyone else." Rappeport testified Wednesday at a hearing before Special Circuit Judge Walter Bristow, who is being asked to overturn Bell's death sentence and conviction for the 1985 murder of Shari Smith, 17, of Lexington County.

Bell was sentenced to die in the electric chair for the 1985 murder of 9-year-old Debra May Helmick, who was kidnapped from her home in Richland County. And Charlotte police have considered Bell a suspect in the Nov. 18, 1984, disappearance of Sandee Cornett.

Bell, 41, a former Gilbert electrician, was convicted of the two murders in separate trials in Berkeley and Pickens counties. One of Bell's court-appointed lawyers, Stephen Morrison, said Bell has smeared food and his excrement on himself and urinated in tea given him in his cell.

Prosecutors contend Bell's behavior is an act designed to help him avoid the electric chair. The state Supreme Court upheld Bell's conviction and death sentence in 1988, ruling there were no legal flaws in Bell's 1986 trial for Shari's murder. Bell is appealing his conviction and death sentence for Debra's murder. The U.S. Supreme Court has not ruled whether it will consider hearing the appeal in that case.

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RIMERT WILL GO TO PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL BEFORE PRISON Charlotte Observer, THURSDAY September 19, 1991 by LOLO PENDERGRAST and DAN HUNTLEY, Staff Writers Page number 1Y

Doctors said Wednesday that Gary Allen Rimert suffers from paranoid schizophrenia - an incurable "thought disease" that probably will keep him in a state mental hospital or prison for life. Rimert, 22, of Lafayette, Ind., was found guilty but mentally ill Wednesday on charges of murdering his grandmother, her husband and two next-door neighbors in River Hills in July 1990.

He was sentenced to four life terms, which he will serve in a psychiatric hospital until he is deemed ready to join the general prison population in a maximum-security facility. The guilty-but-mentally-ill verdict is a relatively recent addition to the S.C. Code of Laws.

"I don't believe any states had guilty-but-mentally-ill verdicts before the late 1970s, and South Carolina didn't have it until about 1984," said USC law professor William McAninch, the author of Criminal Law of South Carolina. Dr. Donald Morgan, a USC psychiatry professor and former Walter Reed Army Medical Center chief psychiatrist, told the court he examined the cases of 100 schizophrenic prisoners in S.C. prisons. He said the 24 who were found guilty but mentally ill received no more treatment than the 76 who were found guilty.

During this week's trial, Morgan testified Rimert showed classic symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia. He suffered illogical thoughts, staid emotions and command hallucinations - outside voices that order a person to do things.

Records showed Rimert was treated for a psychotic episode a month before the killings. He was taking Loxitane, an anti-psychotic drug that softens the symptoms of schizophrenia, court records showed. Generally diagnosed when its victims are teenagers, the illness is biological, traced in recent years to the brain's inability to metabolize nutrients.

Rimert also suffered the accompanying paranoia, feelings that police or other people wanted to hurt him and could read or inject thoughts into his mind. He suffered a sensation that his skin was crawling or burning, common among paranoid schizophrenics, Morgan said.

Dr. Larry Montgomery, a forensic psychiatrist at the William S. Hall Institute in Columbia, testified Rimert followed orders to kill the two couples or burn in hell. Forty percent of paranoid schizophrenics hear and follow command hallucinations, according to medical studies. Rimert didn't fully realize he'd killed his grandparents - and he didn't cry about it - until months later, said Montgomery, who testified for both the defense and the prosecution.

He told a nurse, "I scared my grandparents" and was segregated from other patients because he fought over the phone. "He said he had to call his grandparents," Montgomery testified. Morgan, who testified for the defense, said the disease stopped Rimert from making the right moral choices. "The key thing is that he was obeying voices that gave him no option," Morgan testified. "I don't believe there was any possibility he could tell right from wrong."

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HOSPITAL RELEASED MAN BEFORE 4 WERE KILLED The State (Columbia, SC)-- TUESDAY September 17, 1991 ASSOCIATED PRESS Page number 4B

YORK - A 22-year-old man accused of killing his grandparents and another elderly couple was released from an Indiana hospital days before the slayings because his insurance coverage expired, a defense lawyer said Monday during opening arguments in the murder trial. Gary Rimert of Lafayette, Ind., is accused of killing his grandparents, 81-year-old Henry and 82-year-old Alice Rohrs, and their River Hills neighbors, 71-year-old Ralph and 69-year-old Dee Petersen.

He pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity to the four murder charges Monday and to four charges of the use of a knife in the commission of a murder. Earlier in the day, Circuit Court Judge Paul Short found Rimert competent to stand trial.

Rimert faces four life terms in prison or an indefinite term in a psychiatric hospital if convicted. Two days before the July 14, 1990, killings in the posh Lake Wylie community, Rimert was released from a hospital in Lafayette where he spent less than a month for psychiatric treatment.

''He (Rimert) was admitted to Home Hospital for 30 days and he was kicked out of the hospital on the 27th day,'' defense lawyer David Belser said Monday. ''The administrator of the hospital sent his mother a memorandum reminding her that he only had three days left on his hospital coverage,'' Belser said. Home Hospital officials in Lafayette could not be reached Monday night for comment.

Two days after his release, Rimert hopped in his car for what Belser described as an imaginary journey,'that lasted until the morning of July 14, 1990. ''The original plan was to go to Florida to save his girlfriend from being a prostitute. But he ran out of money and decided to visit his grandparents in River Hills,'' Belser said.

''He arrived at 8 o'clock that morning and within 2 hours four people were dead.'' Authorities said Rimert was hallucinating during the stabbings and did not have his medication. The murdered couples all had been stabbed several times with a 14-inch carving knife, and Rimert told police he killed them, according to arrest warrants.

In late December, psychiatrists at the State Hospital in Columbia declared that Rimert was insane at the time of the slayings. He was diagnosed a paranoid schizophrenic. Schizophrenia is thought to be caused by an organic or biological deficiency that can be controlled by medication.

At the request of York-area Solicitor Larry Grant, Rimert has spent the past 14 months in the State Hospital undergoing psychiatric treatment and evaluation. He told jurors details about Rimert to bolster the insanity defense. ''The voices were urging him to kill his grandparents and their neighbors or burn in hell. And he fought a losing battle with these voices,'' Belser said.

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HORNSBY GUILTY BUT MENTALLY ILL IN 1992 SLAYING, JURY DECIDES The State (Columbia, SC) FRIDAY September 2, 1994 by LISA GREENE, Staff Writer Page number B3

A jury found a Richland County man guilty but mentally ill Thursday in the 1992 murder of a 73-year-old man. Brent Hornsby, 39, was sentenced to two consecutive life terms for murder and first-degree burglary. He will be eligible for parole in 20 years.

Hornsby stabbed Calvin Henry, 73, in the chest with a 14-inch bayonet knife in November 1992. Henry had just returned home from choir practice to care for his invalid wife, who had multiple sclerosis.

Both sides agreed that Hornsby, a paranoid schizophrenic, has mental problems. But his lawyer said Hornsby should be found not guilty because he is insane. The prosecutor said Hornsby was guilty but mentally ill. If Hornsby had been found not guilty by reason of insanity, he would have gone to the state hospital, spending anywhere from four months to life there. A court hearing would have been required to release him. Instead, Hornsby will go a psychiatric unit in the Department of Corrections, then be imprisoned with other inmates.

Prosecutors believe Hornsby was the first Richland County defendant to use an insanity defense in a murder case in about 15 years. Hornsby's lawyer, chief public defender Jeff Bloom, said he was satisfied with the verdict. He said he achieved his main goal before the trial, when prosecutors decided not to seek a death sentence against Hornsby.

But Bloom said he still is worried that Hornsby won't get the help he needs. ''My concern is that mentally ill defendants are not getting the type of treatment they need in prison,'' he said.

Psychiatrists testified that Hornsby, who has had mental problems since 1973, has hallucinations, sometimes thinks he can communicate with people telepathically, has irrational fears that others may harm or kill him, and sometimes thinks that inanimate objects, such as furniture, can speak to him.

MAN MIGHT FACE TRIAL IN 2 SLAYINGS COMPETENCY HEARING TODAY The State (Columbia, SC )-- Monday, September 8, 1997 by MICHELLE R. DAVIS Staff Writer Page number B1

Four years ago, police say, Allen Johnson killed his girlfriend's two children, watched television, then pedaled his bicycle to a convenience store to report the crimes. But Johnson, who could face the death penalty, has never come before a jury. Three years ago, evaluators at the state Department of Mental Health found he was not competent to stand trial, and he has been hospitalized ever since.

Today, Circuit Judge Gary Clary will hold a hearing in a Richland County courtroom to determine if Johnson, 29, is well enough to be tried. A recent evaluation by a different psychiatrist found that Johnson was able to understand court proceedings and assist in his defense.

Normally, when defendants are found incompetent to stand trial, the charges pending against them are nullified but can be reinstated later. In this case, prosecutors with the 5th Circuit solicitor's office, left the charges - including notification they would seek the death penalty - pending, Solicitor Barney Giese said.

Johnson is accused of killing the 4-year-old son and 8-month-old daughter of Sylvia Gilmore on Aug. 22, 1993. Johnson had been living with Gilmore at her Saxon Homes apartment. Johnson's attorney, Richland County Chief Public Defender Jeff Bloom, said he questions whether his client can really help with his case after years of medication.

"Competence is something that can change rapidly," Bloom said. While Johnson may be found competent today, on the day a trial is scheduled he may be unable to help in his defense, Bloom said. Johnson has failed at least six competency evaluations in the last three years.

The reports say Johnson often hears voices telling him to do things, including choking and killing other people. He also has hallucinations, sometimes imagining that the dead children are clinging to his back as he tries to rub them off, the reports say.

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MARtin F. ABErnathy

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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:40:12 EST From: SMARTNEWS@aol.com Subject: re: Psychological Abuse May Cause Changes in Brain

Dear List,

Please find excerpts from this article below.

Sincerely, Neil Brick

Psychological Abuse May Cause Changes in Brain - Psychiatric News - 3/02/01 -Clinical & Research News - By Joan Arehart-Treichel "it appears as if this psychological impact can hurt the temporal lobes, important for sound and spoken language, and the limbic system the brain's emotional processing center....it appears as if the psychological impact of childhood physical abuse can damage the corpus callosum the major information pathway between the two brain hemispheres....the psychological impact ensuing from childhood physical abuse appears capable of damaging the cerebellar vermis, an area of the brain involved in emotion, attention, and the regulation of the limbic system....An overview of the findings by Teicher and his colleagues, as well as of the implications of these findings for psychiatry, was published in the fall 2000 issue of Cerebrum." http://www.psych.org/pnews/01-03-02/abuse.html

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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 20:18:35 EST From: Ecotoday@aol.com CC: illusions@beyond-the-illusion.com, Comentary@listbot.com (Cosmic Comentary), SNETNEWS@topica.com, mc@topica.com Subject: MC: Spooks, Cyber-goons declare open season on whistleblowers/Fwd

From John Quinn at Newshawk:

Barbara Hartwell Legal Defense and Research Fund PO Box 832 Woodstock NY 12498 websites: http://www.ulster.net/~babs7/ http://www.homestead.com/barbarahartwellsurvivor/

SPOOKS AND CYBER-GOONS DECLARE OPEN SEASON ON WHISTLEBLOWERS

I have just been informed by my new webmaster, Ron Garon, that the perps who have been hacking into my websites --ever since he put the first NEW one up several weeks ago-- have now TORN DOWN the latest new and improved site Ron constructed for me.

If you look at my old site ( babs7) you will see that the perps have wiped out my hit-counter, so I now have no way to check how MANY visitors are coming to my site. Shortly before that, they hacked in and changed my password, so I could not find out WHO ALL was visiting my site. (A lot of spooks, for sure, the last time I was able to look.)

If you check my newer site (homestead) you will see that the perps have hacked in and distorted the photo of me, wearing camo gear --taken on a nocturnal field mission-- by my friend Bruce Cornet. Bruce is an excellent photographer... but after the hackers' handiwork, I look like hell.

And I guess they didn't much like my motto on the front page: DON'T TREAD ON ME. I thought the rattler, ready to strike, was kind of cute. But alas, along with his message, they wiped him out too.

And who knows what else the cyber-vandals may have done--like destroying more of my links-- which continues to happen on a regular basis.

Many people have told me that they have NEVER been able to access my websites -- ever since the first one was constructed last May.

Ron has worked very hard and spent many hours --volunteering his time-- to help me because he supports my work and believes, as I do, that the criminals who are commiting human rights absuses, such as mind control and nonconsensual human experimentation must be EXPOSED --and STOPPED. Considering the fact that Ron holds a regular full-time job, as well as serving as a Christian minister in two different ministries, he doesn't have much free time to devote to the mind control websites he sponsors and related research he is conducting. I wonder how he even finds time to sleep....And as if he doesn't have ENOUGH to deal with, he has been targeted for harassment with high-tech weapons....harassment which has been escalating ever since he became associated with me and other whistleblowers exposing the abuses of mind control.

But AS USUAL the cyber-goons are on a rampage--running amok and destroying as MUCH as they can, as FAST as they can. ( I wonder, are they paid for overtime ?.....for their sakes, I sure hope so.)

For more details re computer hacking and intimidation tactics used against my previous webmasters, please see my December 2000 report on Rumor Mill News: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RMNEWS_DAILY_EMAILS/message/9917

I have also been informed by a fellow-whistleblower, Major Steve Young, that the perps have been tampering with my phone lines AGAIN (It's nothing new.) Steve has tried to reach me by phone numerous times in the past several weeks. On most occasions he got a recorded message saying that my phone # was "disconnected" and that no further info was available. And he is only one of several people who have told me the same thing: These folks also got the spooks' recording instead of the one on my answering machine. Steve is willing to be my witness and to make a formal complaint to the phone company, Verizon, in my local area.

Ron, Steve, and many others have also had their phone calls with me disrupted by high-pitched signals, echo chambers, military-style radio transmissions and outright and repeated disconnections on the line.

As I write this, I am trying to recover from a long night of sleep deprivation -- caused by an intrusive, pervasive, LOUD, high-pitched, pulsing "signal" in my home. I am not a technical researcher, so I don't know precisely WHAT type of technology is involved. But I DO know WHO has given the orders behind the scenes. And WHY this weaponry is being deployed against me.

I may not be able to stop these perps from hacking my websites, tampering with my phone and computer lines and hitting me with their high-tech weaponry. But at least I can let EVERYONE know about their criminal activities.

U.S. Constitution, Amendment 4 states:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Although there is no specific mention of the word "privacy" in the 4th amendment, nor for that matter, anywhere in the constitution, it is certainly implied in the language, given that the U.S. Supreme Court has interpreted this amendment as a protection of an individual's "reasonable expectation of privacy". Phone taps; surveillance devices; computer hacking; theft and destruction of personal "effects"; bodily invasions such as installing implants or attacks by high-tech weaponry: ALL of these are flagrant violations of the individual's 4th amendment "right to a reasonable expectation of privacy".

The constitutional perspective notwithstanding; to my mind, the phrase "secure in their persons" certainly describes the basic HUMAN right of the "Inviolability of Personhood" as well as the right of persons to maintain their INDIVIDUAL sovereignty over their bodies. But how can we possibly maintain "security" in our persons, when the very government which is supposed to be serving us by guaranteeing these rights is instead engaged in criminal activities by violating them ?

I know that the perps' harassment of me is not helping their cause. By harassing me, all they accomplish --aside from making my life miserable-- is that my credibility is enhanced, as more and more witnesses come forward to testify on my behalf. As more and more of their transgressions are exposed. As more and more people realize that these goons would not be spending so much time and energy harassing me UNLESS I am telling the truth about their violations of human rights, many of which I have witnessed and experienced firsthand. And UNLESS they don't want that truth exposed. But then, "intelligence" was never their strong suit. And the way I see it, the term "intelligence operative" is an oxymoron --if ever there was one.

But lastly, consider this: What is this country coming to, when ministers, military personnel and other patriotic Americans like Rev. Ron Garon and Major Steve Young --whose honorable purposes are serving God and their country-- are treated like a collective Public Enemy Number One ?

God help us all.

-Barbara Hartwell

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Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 09:17:54 -0000 From: "Catcher of The Catcher in the Rye" <thefbiisthecatcherintherye@hotmail.com> Subject: microwave audio : BULLSHIT, MR. VINCENT !

Bullshit, Mr. Vincent !

I hired two former KGB scientists and collaborated with them to try and back-engineer this fascinating technology. And I also wrote a manuscript about it. STOP BULLSHITTING !!!!

------------------ IN RESPONSE TO : ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Simply asking this question in the wrong places in Canada will get you Psychciatrically Imprisoned ... permanently.

JV

Good, because if it did work and you travelled with it to Canada, you would be Psychciatrically imprisoned.

JV --------------------------------------------------------------- Does anyone have the circuits or schematics to a microwave-audio device which is able to create the sensation of audio in the human head on a conscious basis and doesn't use the human ears to do so ?

If so, please post them here or let us know where they are posted

Some info :

http://www.raven1.net/v2s-kohn.htm

http://www.raven1.net/v2ssp.gif

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RE: microwave audio : BULLSHIT, MR. VINCENT ! By frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca

microwave audio By thefbiisthecatcherintherye@hotmail.com

RE: REAL UFO/ETs & MIND CONTROL By west@sonic.net

Reality Check By m.a.norman@ntlworld.com

RE: [MC] only one savior By fastrackesp@hotmail.com

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Date: Fri, 23-Mar-2001 11:24:31 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: RE: microwave audio : BULLSHIT, MR. VINCENT !

Catcher of The Catcher in the Rye wrote: > > Bullshit, Mr. Vincent ! > > I hired two former KGB scientists and collaborated with them to try and > back-engineer this fascinating technology. And I also wrote a manuscript > > about it. STOP BULLSHITTING !!!! > > ------------------ > IN RESPONSE TO : > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Simply asking this question in the wrong places in Canada will get you > Psychciatrically Imprisoned ... permanently. > > JV > > > > Good, because if it did work and you travelled with it to Canada, you > would be Psychciatrically imprisoned. > > JV > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Does anyone have the circuits or schematics to a microwave-audio device > which is able to create the sensation of audio in the human head on a > conscious basis and doesn't use the human ears to do so ? > > If so, please post them here or let us know where they are posted > > Some info : > > http://www.raven1.net/v2s-kohn.htm > > http://www.raven1.net/v2ssp.gif > >

Feel free to do a search of the archives of this group, you may find posts that relate more specifically to your original question.

JV

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Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 11:51:00 -0000 From: "Catcher of The Catcher in the Rye" <thefbiisthecatcherintherye@hotmail.com> Subject: microwave audio

Thanks for a more sensible reply.

-------------------------------------------- Bullshit, Mr. Vincent !

I hired two former KGB scientists and collaborated with them to try and back-engineer this fascinating technology. And I also wrote a manuscript about it. STOP BULLSHITTING !!!!

------------------ IN RESPONSE TO : ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Simply asking this question in the wrong places in Canada will get you Psychciatrically Imprisoned ... permanently.

JV

Good, because if it did work and you travelled with it to Canada, you would be Psychciatrically imprisoned. JV --------------------------------------------------------------- Does anyone have the circuits or schematics to a microwave-audio device which is able to create the sensation of audio in the human head on a conscious basis and doesn't use the human ears to do so ?

If so, please post them here or let us know where they are posted

Some info :

http://www.raven1.net/v2s-kohn.htm

http://www.raven1.net/v2ssp.gif

------------------------------------------------------------------- Feel free to do a search of the archives of this group, you may find posts that relate more specifically to your original question.

JV

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Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:50:56 -0800 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> Cc: <KKasten@mednet.ucla.edu> Subject: RE: [MC] REAL UFO/ETs & MIND CONTROL

Comment by Kathy Kasten [KKasten@mednet.ucla.edu]:

The most fascinating position of UFO investigators/ researchers is their insistence that the government/military is lying/ covering up the "ufo phenomena." Then, if one reads the URL listed and reads testimony after testimony from either a high level military or government official, one finds that 80% of the testimony cited in the introduction of this website is military or government officials. It is a bit disingenuous to want it both ways. Sort of like eating your cake and having it too. Frankly, if you are going to call people liars how can you turn around and cite them in support of your theory? KK

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Date: Sat, 24-Mar-2001 01:33:31 GMT From: <m.a.norman@ntlworld.com> Subject: Reality Check

The loss of such a highly moral campaigner of human rights as the honourable and good Mary Robinson does not bode well for the oppressed / tortured / abused.

Re: the press release below:

Maureen

'Dear all,

In Mary Robinson's words: "You hear fine, glowing statements [on commitment to human rights], but when it comes down to it, it's not the reality". Tragic but true, as the politically elected worldwide preach human rights, legislate human wrongs, Lynette. ****************** http://www.independent.co.uk/news/World/Europe/2001-03/outside240301.shtml ) THE INDEPENDENT, London, 24 March 2001 Time for a reality check on rights, says Robinson United Nations: The outgoing commissioner doubts the world's commitment to defending human rights at the core of international dialogue mary Anne Penketh

Mary Robinson is not a quitter. "If I was, I would have left in the first two months in the job," says the former Irish president, the scourge of despots and bullies around the world for the past four years, who announced this week that she was standing down as the UN high commissioner for human rights. During her time in office, Mrs Robinson has ruffled many feathers: she angered Russia by raising the issue of abuses in Chechnya and she aired her views on the crackdown on the Falun Gong sect during a visit to China. Nor did she mince her words on the killing of civilians by Nato during the Serbia bombing campaign. Given her reputation as a feisty lawyer and campaigner, her decision to step down sent waves of consternation around the world. Activists and many governments wondered what led her to walk away from such a high-profile. Is it the end of a short-lived experiment to put human rights at the heart of international relations? Mrs Robinson does little to discourage such a view. In an interview with The Independent yesterday, she explained that her announcement that she would not seek a second term as the world's most prominent human rights advocate was designed to show governments that "it's now time for a reality check". Bemoaning the lack of resources for her office from the UN's regular budget ­ decided by the 188-member UN General Assembly ­ Mrs Robinson freely admits that the funding issue reflects the unwillingness of governments to make a long-term commitment to human rights issues. "I'm afraid it does beg a question. You hear fine, glowing statements, but when it comes down to it, it's not the reality," she said. Mrs Robinson announced her decision to leave the job on Monday, the opening day of the annual Human Rights Commission session, saying that she could no longer work within the "constraints" of the UN system. Noting that her office received less than 2 per cent of the UN budget, she singled out the fact that "a significant number of colleagues," including virtually all those in the field, were working on short-term, insecure contracts, "and this, to me, is deeply troubling". She also expressed frustration with the "roadblocks" of UN bureaucracy: a radical proposal to incorporate a human rights element into all peace-keeping missions was greeted enthusiastically by member states but they have failed to implement the plan. Mrs Robinson pointed to her success in attracting an additional $44m (£30m) from the main donor countries but stressed that this raised other problems because Western countries were giving "twice as much" as developing states. Whether her successor ­ as yet unnamed ­ will have any more luck in securing funds from the UN budget is uncertain. The intense Mrs Robinson, 56, has failed to cajole the member states behind the UN bureaucracy into financing

her office, which has grown to include a 200-strong staff in Geneva. "It's been an uphill struggle," she said. "But I have shown the office is one that warrants proper funding and support." Mrs Robinson insisted she would not abandon human rights, but would continue to lobby outside the UN, linking with non-government organisations to advance the cause. Asked why anyone should pay attention to her once she leaves office in September, she replied: "I have a moral integrity. If I have a moral voice, I am keen to continue to engage on the agenda of human rights." Mrs Robinson said she had the support of the UN secretary general, Kofi Annan, who announced on Thursday that, unlike her, he would be seeking a

second term, to pursue the link between the UN and non-government organisations to advance human rights.

"I have been to 60 countries," Mrs Robinson said. "It has given me a sense of the urgency of dealing with human rights, including civil and political rights, as well as economic and social rights, such as the right to development." '

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Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 22:06:23 -0500 From: "Russ fastrackesp Warwick" <fastrackesp@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [MC] only one savior

In a plasmatic state, accomplished by years of eastern type meditation, etheric matter and ectoplasm from our assymetical selves gives us the means to appear at times as basically anything we want, ie reptile, devil, Jesus or monster. This phenomenom is well known in Hindu circles and I have been told many times that I have 'morphed' to appear different. I have seen this done with the So-called English Teachers based in Jakarta, a CIA front specializing in the paranormal and electomagnetic radiation. I asked my guru in Malaysia about this and what am I appearing as to cause some startling reactions at times. He said that if someone appeared with ill intent, I could appear as an even bigger monster, so it seems that it is a rare survival phenomenom, now brought out by certain meditation techniques, Warm Regards, Russ Warwick.

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CIA Boasts of Manipulating News (Assoc. Press - 3/24/01) By cloudrider@aol.com

Electrical weapons bill By 1927@glasscity.net

Re: [EWAR] REAL UFO/ETs & MIND CONTROL By ecotoday@aol.com

RE: Reality Check By jhgraf2@earthlink.net

Re: REAL UFO/ETs & MIND CONTROL By xfiles@uswest.net

RE: microwave audio By frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca

ABC News on Espionage Techniques By alb@datafilter.com

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Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 09:32:07 EST From: CloudRider@aol.com Subject: CIA Boasts of Manipulating News (Assoc. Press - 3/24/01)

CloudRider comment: A quote attributed to Winston Churchill, repeated by noted war correspondent William Manchester in the title of one of his books decades ago, reads: "In war, truth is the first casualty." During the Cold War, and continuing into today, as American interests (defined by the corporate internationalists, to whom a majority of our supposedly elected officials in Washington and New York kowtow) are subordinated to planetary manipulations and hegemonies of new empires rising, the broadcast and print media and now much of the global Internet are grotesquely and cynically manipulated by operatives ("assets") of transnational propaganda forces.

As long as one recognizes this, particularly regarding "fringe" or "marginal" news and commentary contexts such as "UFOs" and "mind control" allegations, paranormal, psychiatric, "lone gunmen" and other core-stories around which conspiracies turn, it is still possible to pursue ethical journalistic initiatives, keeping to "what do we know and how do we know it" principles. Sunshine is still the best disinfectant. Fight on!

It is not "CIA" that is a primary manipulator these days. It is the Internationalistas, the French, Israeli, Russian, EU, world finance and criminal cartels, and yet other factions bent on destroying our American Experiment and capturing our future, a future without a cohesive America able to project and protect our interests and lives.

Indeed, in a world where "truth is what is believed" and "all wars are about beliefs," that dangerous land "in the province of the mind," where what is believed to be true becomes true, politically and militarily, we must renew our commitment to science and journalism, honest academic pursuits and historical facts, as our compasses.

Dick Farley <cloudrider@aol.com> Washington, DC USA

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Associated Press report follows, verbatim (AP-NY-03-24-01 0100EST)

CIA Boasts of Manipulating News

.c The Associated Press

HAVANA (AP) - The CIA boasted in a recently declassified section of its propaganda plan for the Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba 40 years ago that it would be able to place stories about the operation ``directly on international wire services.''

``Should military action be extended over a long period of time, the radio and leaflet operations previously described will be augmented by all the regular propaganda apparatus,'' read the document, which was shown for the first time Friday to key figures in the Bay of Pigs drama, who gathered here this week to compare notes.

``This will include press placement throughout the hemisphere through CIA assets; through Miami exile contacts with Florida papers; and through Headquarters placement directly on international wire services,'' read the newly declassified sections of the propaganda plan passed among conference participants in Havana.

The document did not indicate how the Central Intelligence Agency would accomplish getting its information on news wires.

Much of the propaganda plan had previously been declassified in large part as an attachment to the government's Taylor Commission report, which examined the U.S. role in the April 17-19, 1961 armed invasion of Cuba by CIA-trained exiles.

The three-day invasion ended in disaster. Without U.S. air support and running short of ammunition, more than 1,000 invaders were captured. Another 100 invaders and 151 defenders died.

The propaganda plan was also included in a briefing book supplied to conference participants. But a section on wire services was blacked out, leaving it unreadable, even though it had been declassified through the efforts of the National Security Archive at George Washington University, one of the conference organizers.

Jon Ellington, a former National Archive Security employee who used the Freedom of Information Act to gather U.S. documents for his book ``PsyWar on Cuba: The Declassified History of U.S. Anti-Castro Propaganda,'' said he received the more complete version of the document upon request from the John F. Kennedy Library in Boston.

``It may have been a mistake,'' Ellington said of the passages that were not blacked out. ``This shows how far they were willing to go, even to reach a domestic audience.''

The document said that the placement of news stories on the international wire services ``deserves special comment.''

``For in spite of all elaborate planning to reach the Cuban people and the rest of the world directly, it is the output of the established wire services which most effectively do the job,'' it said. ``One report on United Press International, for example, will be repeated on nearly every radio station and most of the newspapers of the Caribbean area. UPI was the only news agency mentioned by name.

``Because of the importance of this, military planners should be aware of Headquarters capability of placing items directly on the wire service tickers,'' the document continued.

``During a period of fighting, especially in the first few days,'' the document said, ``we will be in a position to place specific messages and propaganda lines. This will be enormously important in influencing the actions of Cuban government leaders and stimulating sympathetic support of the patriotic rebellion from other countries.''

AP-NY-03-24-01 0100EST

Copyright 2001 The Associated Press.

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Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 19:55:05 -0800 From: Pat Mougey <1927@glasscity.net> CC: 1927@glasscity.net Subject: Electrical weapons bill

This is from Roy Bercaw......please direct your replies to him. Thanks, Pat Mougey

A hearing will be held on Massachusetts House bill No. 3490, a petition by Roy Bercaw to amend Mass General Laws Chapter 140, Sec. 131 J. The text of Ch. 140 S. 131 J (an electrical weapons statute) is below with the proposed amendments. The scheduled hearing before the Criminal Justice Committee is for April 3, 2001, at 10:00 AM. Room number is not available yet.

If you can provide information come and testify; else send your comments to the two (yes, two; it is a joint committee) Chairmen of the Criminal Justice Committee at:

Senator Cynthia Stone Creem, Chairman Mass State Senate Criminal Justice Committee The State House Room 416 B Boston MA 02133 617-722-1639 CCreem@senate.state.ma.us

Rep. Stephen A. Tobin, Chairman Criminal Justice Committee Mass House of Representatives The State House Room 166 Boston MA 02133 617-722-2900 Rep.AStephenTobin@hou.state.ma.us

In view of the numerous high tech devices and weapons being tested on humans for military purposes using local law enforcement without the consent of the human subjects, penalties for possession of these weapons need to be increased. Presently police refuse to investigate no less stop the uses and abuses of these devices by police, their informants and psychologists for harassment and provocations. (They call it treatment!) It is not known how many homicides have resulted from relentless abuses of these devices by criminal psychopaths. More information is at the state site http://www.state.ma.us look under "administration;" "General Court" "Pending bills;" or type in my name "bercaw" at the state home page. Current laws are under "General Laws of Mass," in the publications menu.

Roy Bercaw

HOUSE, NO. 3490

House, No. 3490. Presented by: Representative Jarrett T. Barrios. Petition filed at the request of Roy Bercaw relative to the penalty for the sale or......

http://www.state.ma.us:80/legis/history/h03490.htm

The amendments are identified by:

***(words to be deleted)*** ***[words to be added]***

GENERAL LAWS OF MASSACHUSETTS

TITLE XX. PUBLIC SAFETY AND GOOD ORDER.

CHAPTER 140. LICENSES.

Chapter 140: Section 131J. Sale or possession of electrical weapons; penalties.

Section 131J. No person shall sell, offer for sale or possess a portable device or weapon from which an electrical current, impulse, wave or beam ***[or electromagnetic radiation, or acoustic weapons, or sound weapons]*** may be directed, which current, impulse, wave or beam is designed to incapacitate temporarily, injure or kill. Whoever violates the provisions of this section shall be punished by a fine of not less than ***(five hundred)*** ***[ten thousand]*** nor more than ***(one thousand)*** ***[five hundred thousand]*** dollars or by imprisonment for not less than ***(six months)*** ***[two years]*** nor more than ***(two years)*** ***[twenty years]*** in a jail or house of correction, or both.

Roy Bercaw, Editor ENOUGH ROOM Watch ENOUGH ROOM L-I-V-E-! Tuesday 4:30 PM ET/ 1:30 PM PT Channel 9 Cambridge Community Television Video streamed (live only) at http://www.cctvcambridge.org Rebroadcast locally Wednesday 9:00 AM Eastern Time PO Box 400297 Cambridge MA 02140 USA roybercaw@hotmail.com

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Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 20:10:58 EST From: Ecotoday@aol.com CC: west@sonic.net, 1927@glasscity.net, mc@topica.com, econews@ecologynews.com Subject: Re: [EWAR] REAL UFO/ETs & MIND CONTROL

In a message dated 01-03-23 16:26:00 EST, KKasten@mednet.ucla.edu writes: << <snip> -----Original Message----- From: ecotoday@aol.com [mailto:ecotoday@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 12:48 PM To: mc@topica.com Subject: [EWAR] REAL UFO/ETs & MIND CONTROL

To EWAR & MC-L members - In the several years that I have been a member of the EWAR/MC list, the list moderator has positionally attacked any view that UFOs/ETs are real, and might be other than MK-ULTRA or other mind control phenomena.

KK's comments: the only comments I have seen from the moderator have been requests to provide research support documentation. >> Kathy - Thanks for your multi-part response. I am going to respond to each part separarely, because of the multi-issues in each part.

This response places on the record the moderator's post on UFO/ET and Mind Control, together with his explicit challenge to members of the list. If you or the moderator denies the authenticity of his post, and the explicit challenge included therein [Emphasis added in original}, please let you or him email me a response. My other responses to the remaining issues in your post will follow. Alfred Webre, Vancouver, BC

URL: http://www.topica.com/lists/iufo/read/message.html?mid=1705889670&sort=d&start

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WES' THOMAS POST:

MK-ULTRA returns? (fwd) MICHAEL SPITZER Mar 15, 2001 15:31 PST

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:09:11 -0800 From: Wes Thomas <we-@sonic.net>; Subject: MK-ULTRA returns?

LSD experimentation is back. They got smarter this time and are using subjects in Switzerland and Russia, safely out of the purview of U.S. human experimentation protocols and (in Russia) under the supervision of likely FSB (formerly KGB) psychiatrists like Krupitsky, who is using ketamine, likely the most powerful mind-control drug ever invented

http://mir.drugtext.org/maps/news-letters/v6n3/06319ket.shtml

http://www.freedomdomain.com/mindcontrol/mkultra01.html

Note funding by CIA cutout Laurence S. Rockefeller, purveyor of "alien" disinformation to cover mind control experiments.

See:

http://www.visitations.com/mindnet/MN137.htm

"The mind control is central to the function of the disks. They came together after WW II, because Laurence Rockefeller and other national security wigs went to Germany to study the advanced technology at Penemunde, Himmler's redoubt and the source of the Japanese economic "miracle" - also the R&D center of the disks. Years later, Laurence headed up a UFO study group. Of course, they depended heavily on "aliens." Of course, Laurence today funds Scott-Jones, et.al."

And,

http://www.towardfreedom.com/may98/messing.htm

"... the CIA was forced to abandon the MK-ULTRA project in the 60s. But the effort to manipulate minds and blame the victims didn't end; it simply moved from public institutions to cults and private foundations, facades less open to public scrutiny. As a result, the Human Ecology Fund has been replaced by groups such as the Human Potential Foundation in Falls Church, Virginia, founded by Sen. Claiborne Pell and lavishly funded by Laurence Rockefeller."

Also, do a search (or read Acid Dreams) for members of the advisory panel at

http://www.heffter.org/

for some revealing connections. For example, Janiger:

http://victorian.fortunecity.com/daddio/202/mindctrl.html

"Many victims of the CIA-anchored experimentation have been left with multiple personalities induced at a young age, and it is certain that the CIA can trigger induced multiple personalities electronically from a remote source to commit any act on cue the ultimate Manchurian Candidate. Under Dr. West's tutelage at UCLA, parapsychology experiments of another sort were conducted by Kirlian aura researcher Thelma Moss, a writer for television and a human guinea-pig herself in LSD experiments conducted in 1957. Three years later, as a UCLA psychology student, she designed protocols for her own LSD experiments under the supervision of Dr. Oscar Janiger.

"The CIA, of course, could not be far away. Dr. Janiger's supplier of the drug was the legendary Captain Al Hubbard, the Johnny Appleseed of LSD. "Nothing of substance has been written about Al Hubbard," Janiger once said, "and probably nothing ever should."

[EMPHASIS ADDED - ALW]: I challenge list members to follow the breadcrumbs to the rest of the story ....

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/03/13/health/13DRUG.html

March 13, 2001

Scientists Test Hallucinogens for Mental Ills

By SANDRA BLAKESLEE

Hallucinogenic drugs like LSD and peyote - derided as toys of the hippie generation - are increasingly drawing the interest of neurologists and psychiatrists who want to test the idea that they may be valuable tools in treating a range of mental disorders.

Although there are anecdotal reports that psychedelic drugs can help some people with mental illness, the idea has never been substantiated by mainstream psychiatry and remains highly controversial - some would say outlandish.

And even the researchers involved in the new work are not suggesting that people start medicating themselves with hallucinogens.

But researchers like Dr. David E. Nichols, a professor of pharmacology and medicinal chemistry at Purdue, believe the drugs' potential should be investigated.

For example, Dr. Nichols, an expert on hallucinogenic drugs, said there were reports that symptoms of obsessive compulsive disorder, like washing one's hands dozens of times a day, subside under the influence of psilocybin, a hallucinogen derived from mushrooms.

Dying patients given LSD have reported less pain and less fear, he said. Ayahuasca (a Brazilian plant extract) and peyote (derived from cactus) have reportedly helped alcoholics stay sober.

"We now know a lot about how they work in the brain, but we have not begun to investigate their potential for treating brain disorders," he said.

Dr. Nichols is the founder of the Heffter Research Institute, begun in 1993 and named for Arthur Heffter, a 19th-century chemist who was the first person to identify a hallucinogenic molecule, mescaline, which he extracted from peyote. Backed by private donors like Laurence S. Rockefeller and Bob Wallace, a Microsoft millionaire, the institute is financing clinical trials with LSD, psilocybin and other hallucinogens to treat phobias, depression, obsessive compulsive disorders and substance abuse, said James Thornton, its executive director.

Dr. Nichols said trials were under way or planned in Switzerland, Russia and the United States. Most of the work is being done overseas, he said.

Dr. Janet Woodcock, director of the Center for Drug Evaluation and Research at the Food and Drug Administration, said that any proposal to study the medical use of a hallucinogen must meet the same rigorous medical and scientific standards used to evaluate any other unapproved drug.

Furthermore, because hallucinogens are controlled substances, the investigator will need a license from the Drug Enforcement Agency to use such a substance in a clinical trial.

The D.E.A. classifies hallucinogens as drugs with no known medical value - purely "drugs of abuse." But if a valid medical use is found for hallucinogens, Dr. Woodcock said, the F.D.A. has safeguards to prevent the drugs from being diverted and used for unapproved purposes.

Separating a drug's beneficial effects from the harm it can cause is possible, said Dr. Alan Leshner, director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse. "Morphine works for pain, but it's horrendous when used in an addictive way," he said. "The same may or may not be true for hallucinogens. It's a mistake to confuse the two issues."

Much has changed in the half-century since LSD was first used by psychiatrists and then found widespread recreational use in the 1960's and 70's. Modern psychiatry has embraced drugs that affect the same brain molecules that are tweaked by hallucinogens. Tools for studying the brain's neurochemistry and response to drugs like LSD are far more advanced than they were in the 1960's and 70's.

Moreover, many of the people who hold political and scientific power today came of age during the 1960's, and they, unlike their parents, are not as afraid of hallucinogens, Dr. Nichols said.

By definition, hallucinogens are drugs that produce bizarre sights, sounds and feelings that appear to have no basis in reality. All work by changing levels of a brain chemical called serotonin, a substance involved in the modulation of many brain states, including depression, euphoria and appetite.

While antidepressants like Prozac work by making the neurotransmitter serotonin linger in the gaps between brain cells, hallucinogens have a different mechanism of action. They are what are called serotonin agonists - molecules that are very similar to the body's natural serotonin and, when taken in large doses, push the serotonin system into overdrive, making many brain systems more sensitive, Dr. Nichols said. "It's like turning up the volume on your radio. Suddenly you can hear very weak stations."

Thus, for example, hallucinogens amplify signals in the visual system to produce distortions of form and size. Instead of seeing one object, a person sees many copies of that object, he said. Perceived motion is similarly distorted. People begin to "hear" colors and "see" sounds or have out-of-body experiences. Some are so disoriented they experience a terrifying "bad trip."

But very little is known about how hallucinogens can be used therapeutically, Dr. Nichols said. "The first thing we want to know is, Are they safe?"

Dr. John H. Halpern, a psychiatrist at McLeans Hospital in Boston, is looking at this question in a study financed by the Heffter Research Institute and the National Institute on Drug Abuse. The study will involve members the Native American Church who, as part of their religious rituals, take peyote in a group setting but use no other drugs, not even alcohol.

Using a battery of tests for mental and social health, three groups of Native Americans - 70 church members, 70 alcoholics and 70 people from local communities in the Southwest - are being followed and compared for two to three years. The goal is to see whether peyote users are healthier or less healthy than the others.

Similar studies in Brazil showed that violent alcoholics who took hallucinogens in a ritualistic context often stopped drinking and had higher blood levels of serotonin, said Dr. Dennis McKenna, Heffter's director of ethnopharmacology.

Those changes may reflect an increase in their brain levels of serotonin, added Dr. McKenna, who is also a lecturer at the University of Minnesota Center for Spirituality and Healing, which seeks to integrate cultural and spiritual aspects of care with the biomedical aspects.

Dr. Francisco Moreno, a psychiatrist at the University of Arizona, and his colleagues there have permission from their hospital review board and expect final approval from the F.D.A. soon to carry out a study on obsessive compulsive disorder and psilocybin.

"We want to know if psilocybin can reduce symptoms, and if so, how much do you need to take?" Dr. Moreno said. Subjects will be closely supervised while under the influence of the drug and kept in the hospital overnight as a precaution.

At the University of Zurich in Switzerland, Dr. Franz Vollenweider has permission from his government to explore hallucinogens in treating depression and schizophrenia. "We are interested in the nature of the human experience, of the subjective me-ness or self that guides our behavior," Dr. Vollenweider said.

He wonders whether a medically facilitated experience in which the self temporarily "dissolves" might reduce the symptoms of a clinical depression.

With money from the Heffter Institute, Dr. Vollenweider and his colleagues are conducting a three-year study of 64 depressed patients treated with psilocybin.

In related research, Dr. Vollenweider plans to continue brain imaging studies of healthy volunteers who have taken psilocybin and LSD.

"We can tease out specific brain regions responsible for hallucinations and ego boundaries," he said in a telephone interview.

At Harvard, Dr. Harrison Pope, a professor of psychiatry, is planning to carry out a study to see whether LSD can alleviate fear and anxiety in dying patients. Studies in the 1960's suggested that the drug reduced pain and improved mood, he said, but they were not done under rigorous standards.

Eighty patients would be given an "active placebo," a drug that has physiological effects but is not hallucinogenic, or LSD under close supervision of a psychiatrist or trained mental health worker, Dr. Pope said.

And in St. Petersburg, Russia, Dr. Evgeny Krupitsky, chief of the research laboratory at the Leningrad Regional Center of Addictions, is administering ketamine, an anesthetic with strong hallucinogenic properties, to alcoholics and heroin addicts, as they are treated with talk therapy.

One day, advocates of this research say, their results will be valuable.

"If hallucinogens ever find their way into mainstream medicine - and I am convinced they will - they will never be handed out like Prozac," said Dr. George Greer, Heffter's medical director and a psychiatrist in private practice in Santa Fe, N.M. "People will need guidance. These are not drugs you administer every day."

================================================================ Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT

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Date: Sun, 25-Mar-2001 03:38:08 GMT From: James Graf <jhgraf2@earthlink.net> Cc: jhgraf_@excite.com

Subject: RE: Reality Check

Dear Maureen and All:

UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Mary Robinson has taken a number of courageous stands. She has spoken truth (some truth) to power (some powers). She has not hesitated to speak out, particularly, against the outrageous abuse of women and children that many cultures tolerate and from which many economies profit. She has presented herself with dignity and apparent sincerity.

Budgetary restrictions imposed by the USA's reluctance to pay its dues have severely hampered Mrs. Robinson's efforts. So has an unwieldy UN bureaucracy that in recent years has placed far stronger emphasis on peacekeeping (NATO-style) than on human rights.

There are things, however, that the High Commissioner could have done but, for some reason, failed to do.

On August 27, 1997, as Mrs. Robinson was about to assume office, I mailed her the text posted on my web site at http://www.angelfire.com/nj/jhgraf/unhchr.html , pleading that she take action to fix a broken and corrupt UN human rights system. Neither she nor any of her subordinates saw fit to respond to my communication, nor have they done anything at all to address the issues presented therein. Here are examples of this grievous non-feasance.

The Clinton Administration submitted, four years late, the Initial Report of the United States of America to the UN Committee Against Torture http://www.state.gov/www/global/human_rights/torture_index.html . This remarkable exercise in evasion, buck-passing, and sophistry speciously rationalized the "understandings" that the the US Senate had imposed in its ratification of the Convention Against Torture. While complaining that the USA was imposing its own definitions on those stated in the Treaty, the UN Committee Against Torture failed to note, and apparently didn't want to be reminded, that these "understandings" provide convenient loopholes for just the kinds of mental and physical torture experienced by many on this list. The Committee noted and praised President Clinton's toothless Executive Order 13107 and the USA's system of civil rights laws. Ignored however, was the reality that federal civil rights laws are generally enforced only at the discretion of the authorities -- that US residents don't enjoy a RIGHT TO COMPLAIN AND TO HAVE THE COMPLAINT EXAMINED AND PURSUED, as the Treaty assures.

The UN's own record regarding individual complaints submitted under the Optional Protocol of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights or under Article 22 of the Convention Against Torture is abysmal. The table at http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu2/8/stat2.htm , for instance, shows clearly that most complaints are found inadmissible by the Human Rights Committee, including ALL those submitted against West European nations.

The UN appears to be "soft" on America and Western Europe, and Mrs. Robinson has done nothing about it. This discrimination -- this corruption -- has cost many lives, especially among persons who sought asylum in Europe, as I did.

Nine years of effort http://www.angelfire.com/nj/jhgraf/unsumm.html have failed to prompt any information from the UN about the reception, admissibility, or status of my own complaints against Denmark and the Netherlands.

I invite the Honorable Mrs. Robinson, therefore, to assure herself a place in the history of heroism by taking dynamic action now to end this corruption and coverup. For my sake and the sake of humanity, I ask her, and all persons of good will to Please Make the UN Do Its Job! http://www.angelfire.com/nj/jhgraf/makeun.html

James Henry Graf Unacknowledged Prisoner of Conscience ("confined to a village") and "non-person" trapped in "Virtual America," "A Nation In Denial." James Henry Graf's Angelfire Home: http://www.angelfire.com/nj/jhgraf JH Graf's Human Rights Forum (Delphi): http://www.delphi.com/jhgraf/start

m.a.norman@ntlworld.com wrote: > The loss of such a highly moral campaigner of human rights as the > honourable and good Mary Robinson does not bode well for the oppressed / > > tortured / abused.

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Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 20:46:38 -0700 From: "chuck" <xfiles@uswest.net> Cc: "Mc@Topica. Com" <mc@topica.com>, KKasten@mednet.ucla.edu Subject: Re: [MC] REAL UFO/ETs & MIND CONTROL

Wes I have long wrote about the Don Bolles Papers which were in part many CIA and other documents. In these files the United States was covering up all information in support of life on other planets and had been doing so since the crash outside of White Sands in 1947 which we now call the Roswell crash.

It may be foolish of me to submit such truths to the the court in my lawsuit but I have done just that and what I submitted is correct and truthful. In the files we called the Don Bolles papers were the government files on the crash in New Mexico and all information on this crash would be denied by the government for ever with there never being any chance of these files ever being released to the public or even to government officials needing the information.

This part of the files was the most classified of all the files we had and other parts of the files were so sensitive that the information on them could never be repeated. Chuck

> Comment by Kathy Kasten [KKasten@mednet.ucla.edu]: > > The most fascinating position of UFO investigators/ > researchers is their insistence that the government/military is lying/ > covering up the "ufo phenomena." Then, if one reads the URL listed and > reads testimony after testimony from either a high level military > or government official, one finds that 80% of the testimony cited in > the introduction of this website is military or government officials. > It is a bit disingenuous to want it both ways. Sort of like eating > your cake and having it too. Frankly, if you are going to call people > liars how can you turn around and cite them in support of your theory? > KK

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Date: Sun, 25-Mar-2001 04:59:41 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: RE: microwave audio

Catcher of The Catcher in the Rye wrote: > Thanks for a more sensible reply. >

Better you spend your time researching microwaves than me. The tech being used on me has very little to do with microwaves.

JV

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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 04:38:14 -0500 From: "Allen L. Barker" <alb@datafilter.com> Subject: ABC News on Espionage Techniques

A couple of excerpts:

Slivers of metal and fiber optics, embedded in window seals and furniture, to serve as supersensitive listening equipment.

[...]

One new development is the airborne microphone. "Having no metallic content whatsoever makes it immune from X-rays," said surveillance consultant Martin Kaiser.

The full article: -----------------------------------------------------------

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/spy_thomas.html

Trade Secrets America's Cutting-Edge Espionage Techniques at Risk

By Pierre Thomas

March 24 - Is America's top-secret spy tradecraft still secure?

Miniature cameras placed in the headlights of vehicles of known Russian spies, to record their movements.

Homing devices, and an extensive system of transmitters, to track them as they traveled throughout New York City.

Slivers of metal and fiber optics, embedded in window seals and furniture, to serve as supersensitive listening equipment.

Now, these surveillance techniques, among the best practiced by U.S. counterintelligence, may be lost.

ABCNEWS has learned that suspected Russian spy Robert Hanssen was in a position to reveal the techniques, called tradecraft, to his Russian and Soviet handlers, when he worked for the FBI in New York from 1985 to 1987.

At that time, Hanssen was a counterintelligence agent, supervising a squad targeting Soviet spies in the home town of the United Nations and international finance, the prime domestic location for American espionage efforts against the Russians.

"Hanssen would have had access and knowledge of all of the techniques that would be used against the Soviets," said Harry Brandon, who once oversaw the FBI's counterintelligence program.

"I would assume everything is gone. Assume the worst," he said.

Secrets from the Playbook

Among the secrets that Hanssen may have revealed is the location of a supersecret counterintelligence center in New York known as MEGAHUT.

That knowledge would allow the Russians to closely monitor undercover FBI operations.

He might have also revealed a large scale real estate program maintained by the United States, that bought properties in expensive areas throughout New York City so they could be used for surveillance.

Other secrets from the tradecraft playbook include an FBI system for photographing passengers coming in from Russia - to monitor for incoming spies.

FBI officials are now reviewing failed covert operations from the period Hanssen was in New York, trying to see if the failures were because their tradecraft playbook had been given to the Russians.

But the electronic snooping war continues to evolve, with more sophisticated devices that are increasingly difficult to detect.

One new development is the airborne microphone. "Having no metallic content whatsoever makes it immune from X-rays," said surveillance consultant Martin Kaiser.

"It makes it immune from known wire detection processes so it's really the ideal microphone."

'Exceptionally Strong' Evidence

Meanwhile, a federal judge recently ordered Hanssen to stay in jail on the grounds that the government's evidence against him was "exceptionally strong."

Hanssen was arrested Feb. 18, charged with selling secrets to Russia and the Soviet Union since 1985, including the names of double agents and U.S. surveillance methods.

The counts against him say he "compromised numerous FBI counterintelligence investigative techniques, sources, methods and operations, and operational practices and activities targeted against" Soviet and Russian agents in the U.S.

He faces life in prison or death if convicted. His lawyers have said he is planning to plead not guilty.

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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 10:20:30 -0000 From: "Catcher of The Catcher in the Rye" <thefbiisthecatcherintherye@hotmail.com> Subject: microwave audio

I would greatly appreciate hearing from ANYONE who either already has researched or wants to research the microwave-audio effect in a reasonable & sensible manner. What I'm especially looking for are precise technical details, circuits, schematics & plans along with a description of how the device(s) work any maybe some experimental data. Anyone in posession thereof, please post it here or post it on the net and let us know the URLs. Thanks.

Some info :

http://www.raven1.net/v2s-kohn.htm

http://www.raven1.net/v2ssp.gif

--------------------------------------------- Catcher of The Catcher in the Rye wrote: Thanks for a more sensible reply.

Better you spend your time researching microwaves than me. The tech being used on me has very little to do with microwaves.

JV

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Date: Sun, 25-Mar-2001 22:17:43 GMT From: M. F. Abernathy <abemarf@aol.com> Cc: RMNEWS_DAILY_EMAILS@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Mind Control-Related Murders In California?

Why are the police and the courts always so quick to label the people involved in incidents such as these as "mentally ill" ? Is there another possible explanation for their actions? Read these articles and decide for yourself -- mental illness or MIND CONTROL ?

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COMPETENCE TRIAL STARTS FOR ALLEGED SLASHER

San Francisco Chronicle,THURSDAY, November 4, 1993 by John Woolfolk, Chronicle Correspondent Page number C16

Accused multiple murderer Phillip Carl Jablonski hunched over the defendant table in a Redwood City courtroom yesterday and silently stared at nothing as his attorney told a jury he is mentally incapable of standing trial. A jury of eight women and four men will decide whether Jablonski should proceed to trial or be treated at a state mental hospital.

Jablonski, 47, is charged with the April 1991 mutilation slayings of four women, including his wife and her mother in Burlingame, while on parole for killing his third wife. He could face the death penalty if convicted. If he is found competent to stand trial, a different jury will decide whether he is guilty of the charges.

Jablonski has been diagnosed with schizophrenia, a mental disorder that causes him to hear voices, said Jeff Boyarsky, his court-appointed attorney. ``He is not connected to reality,'' Boyarsky said. ``It is not enough to just sit there.''

But according to prosecutor Martin Murray, Jablonski's detached stares and occasional wide-eyed glances around the courtroom are part of a carefully planned act to manipulate the system and evade justice. Jablonski is charged with killing his wife, Carol Spadoni Jablonski, 47, and her mother, Eva Inge Peterson, 72, in their Burlingame home on April 23, 1991.

The women were shot and sexually mutilated. Carol Spadoni married Jablonski on June 16, 1982, while he was serving a prison sentence for the 1979 murder of his third wife, Melinda Kimball. Jablonski also is charged with killing Fathyma Vann, 38, in Indio, about 25 miles from Palm Springs, the day before the double-murder. Vann was found shot and sexually mutilated in the desert with ``I love Jesus'' carved in her back.

Jablonski is also charged with killing Margie Rogers, 58, during a $158 robbery in Grand County, Utah, on April 27, 1991. He was captured the next day at a rest stop in Kansas.

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SUIT AGAINST HOSPITAL OFFICIALS TO OPEN - FREED KILLER OF 3

SAN FRANCISCO CHRONICLE, MONDAY April 25, 1988 by Bill Wallace, Chronicle Staff Writer Page number A2

Napa State Hospital officials negligently released a mental patient who later killed the sheriff of Humboldt County and two other men, according to a lawsuit scheduled to begin trial in Eureka today.

The suit, which asks unspecified damages, was filed on behalf of the three victims' widows after the November 1982 shooting. It alleges that officials at Napa State Hospital released Clarence McCutcheon even though they considered him a violent and dangerous psychopath.

McCutcheon was a diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic with a long history of violent acts and threats. He was killed by police on Nov. 29, 1982, after he gunned down his three victims.

Hospital Director At the time, the director of Napa State Hospital was Dr. Michael O'Connor, the current state director of mental health. The suit accuses O'Connor and other officials of ignoring state laws that allow psychiatric officials to confine dangerous mental patients up to 90 days if they may injure themselves or others.

O'Connor and other state officials deny the allegations. Killed in the murderous rampage were Gene Cox, sheriff of Humboldt County for 16 years; Jack Alton, Cox's father-in-law, and Claire Montgomery, a resident of the trailer park where the shooting took place. Plaintiffs in the suit are Shirley Cox, Doris Montgomery and Hannah Alton.

Jury selection in the case is scheduled to begin today. The lawsuit stems from a series of incidents that began in Eureka in October 1982.

McCutcheon, a 50-year-old Santa Monica man, was sent to Napa after destroying the signs in a Eureka campground and threatening to kill a neighbor who asked him to stop.

Previous Arrest

His medical and psychiatric records show that he had previously been arrested by federal officials for making a bomb threat on an airliner. He had spent a year in a federal mental facility in Springfield, Mo., after he was found incompetent to stand trial on the bomb-threat charges. While in custody in Eureka, McCutcheon fought with mental health technicians and police, threatened to kill a doctor who examined him and had to be restrained to prevent him from attacking workers at the county crisis intervention center, according to his records.

His medical records from the center describe him as "easily agitated, angry, threatening," and ordered his isolation from others "given recent evidence of unpredictability and threats of violence." "This patient is undoubtedly manic," said a psychiatric evaluation prepared in Eureka by Dr. William Patrick Murphy. "I believe him to be dangerous and capable of anything."

After his transfer to Napa, McCutcheon continued to behave in a bizarre and threatening manner. Napa medical records prepared shortly after his admission describe him as "quite hostile and angry on approach." "He has recently been combative to staff."

Priest Claim During a Nov. 3, 1982, Napa Superior Court hearing on whether he should remain in custody, McCutcheon, who had no formal religious affiliation, described himself as a Roman Catholic priest who had been attacked in Santa Monica by a witch and who was being oppressed by followers of Satan. He accused the judge of being in collusion with the CIA, and objected to being represented by a female public defender because "it's not appropriate for a woman to represent a Roman Catholic priest."

Napa psychiatrist Dr. John Baker told the court that McCutcheon was severely delusional, and obsessed with the notion that the CIA was plotting against him. "On the basis of the information I received, I feel he is a danger to others," Baker told the court.

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SLASHER SUSPECT ARRESTED IN ATTACKS ON S.F.'S POOR

San Francisco Chronicle, WEDNESDAY, November 11, 1998 by Jaxon Van Derbeken, Chronicle Staff Writer [Chronicle staff writer Henry K. Lee contributed to this report. ] Page number A17

San Francisco - The man arrested yesterday in the throat-slashing attacks on San Francisco's homeless allegedly told police he is a 2,000-year-old vampire who uses the blood of his victims to scrawl an Asian-language character for death.

Joshua Rudiger, 21, of Oakland, was on probation for wounding a former friend with a bow and arrow and had been charged last year with stabbing a homeless man. He was arrested early yesterday after a fourth victim in the monthlong string of slashing assaults was attacked in Chinatown.

Police said they believe Rudiger killed 48-year-old Shirley Dillahunty on October 29 in the doorway where she slept on 18th Street in the Mission District. They also suspect he slashed the throats of two homeless men in a Nob Hill alley October 16. Both men survived. "We have physical evidence tying four of these attacks together," said Deputy Chief Richard Holder. At three crime scenes, he said, the attacker left behind "an Asian character or symbol."

Sources said the character was the word "death" and that Rudiger claimed to have written it in blood. Rudiger has another Asian character tattooed across his chest that refers to childhood or youth, police say. Holder said Rudiger had "admitted some guilt to the four incidents," but added, "We need to corroborate his statements."

One claim was particularly gruesome, said a source close to the investigation. "He said he sucks the blood of the victims after he has cut their throats."

Rudiger was booked on suspicion of murder and assault and was being held without bail at San Francisco County Jail. He is slated to undergo psychiatric evaluation today at San Francisco General Hospital, sheriff's officials said.

Rudiger was arrested at 12:30 a.m. yesterday after a 48-year-old homeless man fought off an assailant who slashed his throat as he slept on a park bench near Vinton Court and Quincy Street in Chinatown. The unidentified man, who is expected to survive, alerted police. Officers Alane Baca and Gregory Huie spotted Rudiger about two blocks away, at Grant Avenue and Sacramento Street. He allegedly had a bloody knife in his belt. "It was pretty good police work by the guys on the street," said Captain John Goldberg of Central Station.

Rudiger has been portrayed in court records as a schizophrenic as well as suffering from bipolar disorder. He is described as having an "odd" appearance and being prone to violent outbursts. He attempted suicide at age 15, stabbing himself with a samurai sword, according to court documents. He was then institutionalized at Napa State Hospital.

"Mr. Rudiger exhibits low frustration tolerance along with the delusional belief that he is a samurai whose duty it is to `kill all bad people,' " according to one evaluation in court records. "I'm a samurai. I was samurai before I was born, even in another life," he told one evaluator, according to court records.

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GUNMAN SAID HE HEARD VOICES OF DEMONS

SAN FRANCISCO CHRONICLE, FRIDAY September 28, 1990 by Beatrice Motamedi, Michael Taylor, Bill Wallace, Chronicle Staff Writer Page number A1

The man who unleashed a night of terror in Berkeley prayed every day, worked as a handyman, collected guns, hated blond Americans and heard voices that said he owned the state of California.

Police and FBI reports, academic records and interviews with people who knew and lived with Mehrdad Dashti paint a picture of a 30-year -old Iranian immigrant torn between big dreams and dangerous delusions.

Dashti's roommate, Frederick Smith, 19, described him as "a really nice guy . . . easy to get along with," and a religious Muslim who prayed in the living room. "He must have snapped," Smith said.

According to investigators, Dashti used a variety of fake identities, occasionally masqueraded as a police officer and had several run-ins with the law before yesterday's violent outburst. Alameda County social service officials classified Dashti as a paranoid schizophrenic in April 1988, according to a document found in his apartment.

"I believe that I am the victim of a government experiment, whereby I can communicate with many people using mental telepathy," Dashti said in a sworn statement to police last year. "I am not in control of the material that is being broadcasted through my mind."

Details of Dashti's fantasy world are contained in records compiled by FBI agents and San Francisco police, who investigated allegations that Dashti and a friend had tried to pass $16,900 in stolen checks. The records reveal that:

He used at least five different Social Security numbers, including one issued to a 9-year-old girl, and several birth dates. -- He complained on several occasions of hearing voices. After being arrested for allegedly ramming 48 vehicles in Berkeley and Albany in a 1988 vandalism spree, he claimed he was not responsible because "demons" had made him wreck the cars.

During an interview with the FBI last year, Dashti said he had been having mental problems for the past three years and was seeing a counselor at Berkeley-Oakland Support Services, a public assistance agency.

POLICE RECORD

Dashti's erratic personality brought him into frequent conflict with the law. Shortly after immigrating to the United States from Iran in 1979, he was arrested for petty theft; he was arrested again on similar charges in 1983. Both times, he was placed in a pretrial diversion program for small-time offenders. After his 1988 car spree, Dashti was sentenced to 18 days in jail and three years probation. He was meeting regularly with his probation officer just before his death.

Dashti's cramped apartment on Martin Luther King Way in Berkeley is cluttered with travel posters, books and hundreds of pages of photocopied letters to President Bush, Mayor Art Agnos, Health and Human Services Secretary Louis Sullivan and Supreme Court Justice William Rehnquist. In his letters, Dashti wrote that he had been hearing voices for four years, telling him that he owned the states of California, Oregon and Alaska and urging him to demand that the U.S. government pay him $14 trillion.

"As you probably know," Dashti wrote in an undated letter to Agnos, "some kind of supernatural phenomenon is going on around here by means of which people hear voices in their head. These voices come as different messages relating to our social life, God and different power levels that exist among us."

Dashti wrote that he started hearing voices in September 1986. "I first noticed in radio and television they were talking to me," he said. "I became real mad after a while. They not only are reading thoughts, but injecting thought into the mind."

RANTING ABOUT BLONDES

There were signs that Dashti was progressively incapable of dealing with society. During the siege, Dashti ranted about blond women, saying they tempted men with provocative clothing.

"For some reason, he had something against blondes -- Caucasian women -- and blond-haired, blue-eyed men," said Douglas Moore, 25, one of the hostages. "He had something against Americans." As recently as a month ago, Dashti had asked his black roommate, UC Berkeley junior Frederick Smith of Los Angeles, whether he knew any black women Dashti could marry. Yet, Smith said, Dashti also alternately dated and spurned a white blonde named Julie.

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SUSPECT RULED INSANE

SAN FRANCISCO CHRONICLE, THURSDAY April 12, 1990 [BAY AREA REPORT ], Page number B8

SANTA ROSA -- A 24-year-old man accused of killing the matriarch of a prominent Santa Rosa area turkey-ranching family was found incompetent to stand trial and sent to a state mental hospital yesterday. Superior Court Judge Raymond J. Giordano said Pierre Creager could still face murder charges in connection with the death of Eleen (Johnnie) Nicholas, 74, if his sanity is restored through treatment at Atascadero State Hospital. The judge ordered Creager to spend three years at the hospital.

Dr. Ronald W. Byledbal, a psychiatrist who interviewed the suspect on Tuesday, told the court that Creager suffers from delusions and should be classified as a paranoid schizophrenic.

Byledbal said Creager told him that he is guided by a power known only to him and "believes he has done a good thing and would do it again." Nicholas, mother-in-law of Sonoma County Supervisor Janet Nicholas, was found dead in her home last Thursday.

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MARtin F. ABErnathy [abemarf@aol.com]

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Date: Sun, 25-Mar-2001 22:45:49 GMT From: <Perpdetector@hotmail.com> Subject: Microwave gun with 150 meter range

http://members.spree.com/sip/d-roc/abupdate/handguns/heavyweapons.htm

ARASAKA HMWBW-12 12,590eb SPECIAL - +2 - N - R - SPECIAL (microwave) - 1 - 1 - VR Another new and innovative weapon from Arasaka. This weapon is a one-shot heavy microwave gun. Developed to take out the electronics of a target even though shielding, it has a range of 150 meters. Unlike normal microwave weapons, which project a wide spread pattern of microwaves, this weapon fires a tight condensed beam (about 8 inches in diameter) at the target, disabling its electronics even through most shielding. This weapon uses and expels a lot of energy, so is powered by a very powerful battery (about the size of a car battery but much stronger). It must be recharged for 12 hours after every use. This weapon is perfect for SWAT teams, although its hefty price tag will keep it out of their hands for now.

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Date: Sun, 25-Mar-2001 23:17:48 GMT From: James R. Rose <eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com> Subject: Explosive Will

Ecclesiastes :: The Segregated Fields ::: The Explosive Will by William James, Principles of Psychology(1952) :: There is a normal type of character, for example, in which impulses seem to discharge so promptly into movements that inhibitions get no time to arise. These are the "dare-devil" and "mercurial" temperments, overflowing with animation, and fizzling with talk, which are so common in the Latin and Celtic races, and with which the cold-blooded and long-headed English character forms so marked a contrast. Monkeys these people seem to us, whilst we seem to them reptilian. It is quite impossible to judge, as between an obstructed and an explosive individual, which has the greatest sum of vital energy.

In infancy, and in certain conditions of exhaustion as well as in peculiar pathological states, the inhibitory power may fail to arrest the explosions of the impulsive discharge. We have then an explosive temperment temporarily realized in an individual who at other times may be of a relatively obstructed type. I cannot do better here than copy a few pages from Dr. Clouston's excellent work :

Take a child of six months, and there is absolutely no such brain-power existent as mental inhibition; no desire or tendency is stopped by a mental act. . . . At a year old the rudiments of the great faculty of self control are clearly apparent in most children. They will resist the desire to sieze the gas-flame, they will not upset the milk jug, they will obey orders to sit still when they want to run about, all through a higher mental inhibition. But the power of control is just as gradual a development as the motions of the hands. . . . Look at a more complicated act, that will be recognized by any competent physiologist to be "automatic and beyond the control of any ordinary inhibitory power," e.g., "irritate and tease a child of one or two years sufficiently, and it will suddenly strike out at you"; "suddenly strike at a man, and he will either perform and act of defence or offense, or both quite automatically, and without power of controling himself." Place a bright tempting toy before a child of a year, and it will be instantly appropriated. Place cold water before a man dying of thirst, and he will take and drink it without power of doing otherwise. "Exhaustion of nervous energy always lessens the inhibitory power. Who is not conscious of this? "Irritability" is one manifestation of this.

[sleep deprivation-phrase sequences-to commit actions-reinforcements chain as operant conditioning,avoidance and approach conflict constructs, chain pairings of words nonsense syllables-consonant-vowel-consonant mixtures as Pavlovian conditioning, attitude-self-object, artificial conversation constructs of operant chains-hypnopaedia-ears ringing with tone and oscilations-bodily responses-heckling sequences-reinforcement "ur such a fighter"ur the most a maz n man" "kil n"ur the smart est man"kil n". . . . . . . . . .and after sequences of "ur queer"u queer ya"ur ya"; ya=ur=queer-u etc.,etc. The little switch-big switch!!! Heartrate, rigid muscles, stings, itches, cramps, aching pains, paired and multiples as a forced stimulus amounting to artificially created experimental neurosis(Liddell; Pavlov; Brady, Solomon-Ecclesiastes Operation, reinforcement heckle-irritate-frustrate as constant stimuli, and reinforcement fighter,bastard,proud of,ur an asshoe,proud of you=dogs continuously jumping hurdles without ever showing any sign of stopping using words-nonsense syllables-consanant,vowel,consanant arrangements in form of operant conditioning -hypnopaedia-hypnosis;see experimental neurosis, , in the form of shocks to physiological system.. Ponder this: If the new testament were considered in its relationship to hypnosis and experimental psychology-physiology, how many instances can be found of interelated concepts to both texts; the false prophet, the graven image,"a house cannot stand divided against itself." Especially considering hypnosis-hypnopaedia-at a distance! and the conditioning of a nation-world. ]

Many persons have so small a stock of reserve brain-power--that most valuable of all brain qualities--that is soon used up, and you see at once that they lose their power of self-control very soon. They are angels or demons just as they are fresh or tired. That surplus store of energy or resistive force which provides, in persons normally constituted, that moderate "excesses in all directions shall do no great harm so long as they are not often repeated," not being present in these people, overwork, over-drinking, or small "debauches leave them at the mercy of their morbid impulses without power of resistance. . . . ." Woe to the man who uses up his surplus stock of brain-inhibition too near the bitter end, or too often!. . . .The physiological word inhibition can be used synonymously with the psychological and ethical expression self-control, or with the will when exercised in certain directions. It is the characteristic of most forms of mental disease for self-control to be lost, but this loss is usually part of a general mental affection with melancholic, maniacal, demented, or delusional symptoms as the chief manifestation of the disease.

[ This is part of the problem of artificial unobservable forced stimuli of mind control at a distance, as relates to the professions, the symbolisms are reinforced by their learning, the violence of individuals so situated, ego-gratification predispositions thereof . The medical professions used to rely on a person's description of their ailments. No longer is this being done. Even though paying for a service. One of the great cons of our society is for the medical professions to drain insurance companies by having a patient return again and again for un-needed services. A paying customer can and does recieve in one visit what it takes a person on some sort of assistance, several visits to their offices. One reason I ask people to read the http://www.hypnotism.org , case histories of Palle, Mrs. E, Z. Kanter, and Candy, so that they can read the difficulties of persons subjected to criminal hypnosis. Even more so with at a distance-unobservable-criminal hypnosis. People on assistance are blamed by the working men and women for being on welfare, and in turn, people on assistance are penalized for atempting to better their situations, a vicious "motor circle" of deciept by corporate America involved in government institutions.] There are other cases, not so numerous, where the loss of the power of inhibition is the chief and by far the most marked symptom. . . . . I shall call this form "Inhibitory Insanity." Some of these cases have uncontrollable impulses to violence and destruction, others to homocide, others to suicide prompted by no depressed feelings, others to acts of animal gratification ( satyriasis, nymphomania, erotomania, beastiality), others to drinking too much alcohol ( dipsomania ), others toward setting things on others fire ( pyromania ), others to stealing ( kleptomania ), and others toward immoralities of all sorts. The impulsive tendencies and morbid desires are innumerable in kind. Many of these varieties of Insanity have been distinguished by distinct names : to dig up and eat bodies ( necrophilism ), to wonder from home and throw off the restraints of society ( planomania ), to act like a wild beast ( lycanthropia ), etc.

Action from impulse in all these directions may take place from a loss of controlling power in the higher regions of the brain, or from an over-development of energy in certain portions of the brain which the normal power of inhibition cannot control. The driver may be so weak that he cannot control well-broken horses, or the horses may be so hard-mouthed that no driver can pull them up. Both conditions may arise from purely cerebral disorder. . . .or may be reflex. . . .The 'ego', the man, the will, may be non-existent for the time. ""The most perfect examples of this are murders done during somnambulism or epileptic unconsciousness, or acts done in the hypnotic state."" "There is no desire to attain the object at all in such cases."

[ These at one time were isolated instances. After the 1930's they became prevailent. Hypnotism in the form of radio at a distance to creat many more hypnopaedic subjects. Russia, in the 1930's were experimenting with radio controlled subjects using hypnosis at a distance. Also see Judy Wall, Silent Sound, where her research indicates that the Frey discovery in 1974 was a farce. Her research indicates the discovery was in 1961. There exists evidence it was even earlier in the form of broken windshields and welt like burns all over the world in 1952. See Mysteries of Time and Space by Brad Steiger(1974). A person under the effects of hypnosis would be by appearances to be schiz or bipolar, especially unto themselves per command. Think to the Hypnotism entry in archives and see what is possible concerning the body and mind. Orchestrating a script of choreographed movements, post hypnotic instructions to be your own worst enemy, a simple instruction of "opposite" would suffice to creat "Helter-Skelter" for all intents and purposes. Radio-ultra sensitivity-voice character hypnotist, sound bites to reinforce created hypthetical constructs. Instruction to believe this is the voice of yourself or listen to the voice of your mother etc.,etc. "ur la z"ur cra z"its ur im a ges" (whatever image) in the form of approach-avoidance, avoidance-avoidance conflict constructs. Goal gradients toward a goal or away from. All prefabricated on tape(reel to reel) or disc. When a persons body is responding to an unobservable stimulus it is mind boggling. Have been under grueling physical attack last several days.No sleep. Extensive pain. Lay in bed groaning for past three days unable to do anything but freeze,burn,ache,piss cues,shit cues. Heartrate body pulsating (hard)irregular rythm past five days and my whole body is aching from blood engorged muscles. Tendons at side of head aching unreal. Ears ringing incesstantly with tone and oscilations. Heartrate seems to match rythm of oscilations. Relentless "ur queer"sequences and segregated set of ur the brav est man"kil n"kil n er"ur the mos a maz n man"kil n" and refer to these as psuedo affirmations,of which there are many.And a set of "u did it"u jus did it"ur get n it"ur it"; same formula per whole program, variable concepts constructs of avoidance-avoidance, approach as "kil" and using the attitude-self-object, as well as , names, and sequence drives as paired associated so when one is named recall of the other. Long line of deceptive bullshit. ]

""All Is Vanity""

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Date: Sun, 25-Mar-2001 23:46:32 GMT From: James R. Rose <eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: Sattlite Computer Generated Holographic Projections:

shepard@yucca.net wrote: > I now have footage on my cam recorder of their Satanic projections. BoO > ! I see you. > > shepard, > > How well did the footage turn out? Check around to see if there are > inlaid images in texture and stucco in your home and neighborhood.See > the archives in the list on "Laws of Contrast" I have seen them too, as > well as , the inlaid Gestalt artwork and stereo images,images within > images. If you have managed to catch these on film it would benefit us > all in the way of knowing that there are possibilities to consider,not > one,but all. Send a copy to artbell.com and let him post them. Alot of > people visit his site and we could use the coverage.Thanks James. "ALL > IS VANITY" >

""All Is Vanity""

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Date: Mon, 26-Mar-2001 01:20:12 GMT From: <Perpdetector@hotmail.com> Subject: NON LETHAL DEATH By David Guyatt

http://www.deepblacklies.co.uk/non_lethal_death.htm

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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 18:09:37 -0800 (PST) From: Flora Gedenberg <cheerful144@yahoo.com> Subject: MC I've been subject to this for 37 years

I've lost my children, I've been married five times, numerous boyfriends that were morons, I despised but couldn't break up with them or get away from them.I've been in a mental institution at least five times twice ordered by the court, And they are hammering on me right now day and nite.

The only thing that helps is lots of prayer, lots of prayer from others,and myself, speaking out the word of God believe it or not really helps.

They crashed my website today, as I put numerous links on it that was from people who are fighting mind control, I'll tell you what it is in a nut shell?

Our government has been taken over by the communists. This is the God's truth. I've been made a specticle infront of people like Alexander Haige and the like. My main control or watchers as I call them are the Red Chinease. But it's communism what every flavor it comes to us.

I've been a prisoner for 37 years, Altough I'm free to walk and go where I want alot of the time. I've seen them use zombies what I call, and they do jogging, ride bikes and the like but they are in a trance and don't even hear you when you talk to them. They are clean in a trance, and can't hear you.They've used me to give someone who I can't see but I remember giving a bunch of numbers to? Like a data report in numbers, I don't know who it was to, and I don't know when they stopped, but they don't do it anymore.

I've been used as a prostitute,I've been sent to Viet Naum, I've been used as so many things I'm afraid to tell you, because like........they can have moving pictures of you doing illeagal things and you're doing it alright only you're in a trance and can't stop what every they are making you do.

I think they are trying to make me commit suicide right now. Like I said they've hammered me for two weeks, day and nite. I keep busy, is all I can say, and don't watch tv, or listen to the radio and it helps. And yes prayer does help, yes it does.

They craced me up a year ago in June, and it took them 38 days to do it, because I used the power of the spoken word, and prayer. yes that's all I used. I was knocked to my knees litterally at least twice by their electrical waves and with the power of the spoken word, (Bible) and prayer and praise of Christ I was able to with stand 38 days of it, and then I crashed.

That's a miracle for me, as I've never been able to even stand one day before God told me what to do. This is all so preposterous, what they do to me, that If I hadn't lived it myself, I wouldn't believe me either.

They've made me an alcoholic, it just goes on and on. The main message I'm giving you is that it is communism in the first degree. And it goes deep within the government. Deep with in the government.

So far I've heard some of you battling at who's the smartest? I've had wonderful articles to read, I've heard Sue and Ed and I think they are for real, but unexperienced.

Sue? They can call you on the phone and make you think you are talking to your best friend, and it will appear you are getting lots of help? And it's a trance they've put on you and you're really spilling your guts to your controller.

You sound for real, but lets not fight amongst ourselves? We've got the enemy all around. Mental health is deeply into MK Ultra, and they do you harm, and laugh about it.

Thankyou for your time, and thank God for you all that are for real, and the intelligent articles that are sent out. I agree with the person who sent http://www.hypnotism.org that is a fantasic book, and web page. Just fantasic. Carla did a thourough job of writing it.

If you have buz'z in your home, go around to each and every plug in in your house, and don't tell anybody what you are doing because they have "ways" of hearing you as you well know.

Plug in and un plug each plug in, and you will find that one plug in in the house is making that noise, and simply don't tell anybody not anybody just don't use that plug in again.

You can also unplug your phone jack, but if you tell anybody about it, they will relocate the power someplace else.

From where I'm from the Governer despises me, and so does nearly everyone I meet. They spit on me when they go down the street. I have no friends, and the friends I do have use a MoJo and make me sick and bla bla?

I don't trust anybody at all, not anybody, but I believe that some of you are for real. I thank God for that.

Flora The road to success is always under construction.

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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 18:15:06 -0800 (PST) From: Flora Gedenberg <cheerful144@yahoo.com> Subject: Now my site is revived? After I told every one they crashed it.

http://www.acts2.com/cheerful144/index.html

The precepts of Alcoholic's Anonymous really really helps. Being powerless and admitting it.

Then using a higher power, which from my last letter you all know is Christ.

The road to success is always under construction.

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Date: Mon, 26-Mar-2001 02:15:29 GMT From: <Perpdetector@hotmail.com> Subject: Home made microwave gun

http://www1.omnitel.net/savel/mad/microwavegun.html

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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 18:21:35 -0800 (PST) From: Flora Gedenberg <cheerful144@yahoo.com> Subject: They just blocked a long letter from me about MK Ultra?

I spent about 30 minutes telling you some helpful things and they blocked it? My controllers are the red chinease, and this mind control is all communistic.

It doesn't matter if it's Chinease or Russian, or Vietnaumese it's communism. Now if this gets through I'll try some of ther form of posting? F.

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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 07:29:43 +0200 From: "Ed" <e.maatkamp@hccnet.nl> Subject: AA

The "higher power" in which AA wants you to put your trust, is not our God, but the higher powers called "gods," and sometimes it means your own higher self. AA is just as NWO as any other organization Ed

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Date: Mon, 26-Mar-2001 06:54:53 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: RE: AA

Ed wrote: > The "higher power" in which AA wants you to put your trust, is not our > God, > but the higher powers called "gods," and sometimes it means your own > higher > self. AA is just as NWO as any other organization > Ed >

Sounds like we may have some friends of Bill Wilson on the group.

JV

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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 23:45:07 -0700 From: "chuck" <xfiles@uswest.net> Cc: mc@topica.com Subject: Re: [MC] microwave audio

Everyone wants these same questions answered but no one will except the answers. I have supplied the answers to your questions and you write me off as a nut. You are unable to except the truth and your are unable to except your fate. You believe that your government is there to protect you, freedom and the American way. Part of it is but the other part is not.

Your government is there to protect evil, rich and powerful people who control us while telling us how free we are. They do this under the pretense of law and use investigations to authorize their use of torture, murder, drug running and the funneling billions of dollars out of the States and Federal governments. They tell us who to vote for and even tell us how to think and they make us believe that this was of our choosing.

When one side murders, tortures, sell drugs and controls the banks and power while the other side works under the laws, Constitution and Bill of Rights which side will win? You like to believe that good always wins but this is not the truth money and power always wins.

I am being satanically tortured as I write this letter with them screaming in my head louder then if I was standing inside a jet engine while it was running up to full power. I read the designing of this mode of torture in the CIA files a group of us once had on who and how and why these devices were designed. After reading these files I was offered any position in the government I wanted in exchange for my loyalty to those in power. I was asked to become a DEA agent and when I refused I was offered to become a police officer and when I refused I was offered a position as a actor and when I refused I was offered a position as a Rock and Roll Star and when I refused they offered me anything I wanted to be one of them and as much money as I could ever spend in exchange for my loyalty. They also told me that the price was for my soul. They made it very clear that I would be working with them for the rest of my life and that I would aid them in many murders, drug running, framing innocent people for their crimes and I would of even been involved in the fixing of the elections and convincing you that it was really your choice of who you voted for.

When I refused I was set up and busted as being a drug manufacturer by the Sheriffs department and the DEA. In a Federal trial I was acquitted of all charges and when I was acquitted the judge demanded the arrest of the agents involved in the framing of me for perjury and obstruction of justice. The DEA, Sheriffs department and the newspapers then made it look like this horrible drug dealer was set free over some technicality. In truth I was set up and framed and the government planed everything to remove me as a witness to imprison me to force me to become one of them and sell my soul and work for them..

The devices being used against all of us are similar but can be used in many different ways and placed differently to cause different effects. These devices were first used in the 1970's with the early research being done in Nazi Germany during the 2nd World War in the concentration camps on the jews. The Nazi's experimented with sound to break down the will of those they were torturing as a form of mind control. Many people were tortured to death using horrible sounds and sleep deprivation. After the war the OSS who later became the CIA brought these doctors to America to continue their research in mind control and torture. As technology allowed things to become small and even built on the atomic levels the use of very small bugging devices became possible and even very common place all over the world.

The devices being used against us are what the government calls monitoring devices and they are capable of monitoring us completely hearing every word and sending massive amounts of other information like where we are and how fast we are breathing and what our heart rate is and so on. The devices are micro computers built on the atomic level and if you found one and cut it apart you would not be able to see anything except a piece of metal. You would need a electron microscope and billions of dollars to even be able to begin to understand the devices. Your quest to see them and be able to make drawings of them is so far beyond your abilities that you will never be able to accomplish your goals. The sounds you hear are generated by the filters that were designed to filter out background sounds before transmission of what your saying or of what others around you are saying. These filters filter out background sounds like your breathing, heart beat and other body sounds that could make what your saying hard to hear. The filters are programmable and can be programed using radio waves to filter out different modes of torture and are as powerful as your computer in storing and using these modes of torture. The sounds you hear are not heard by those listening to you making you crazy in their eyes even though the sounds are real only you can hear them or feel them as your being tortured.

The devices can be placed in your clothing to torture you with other modes other then sounds and can even be glued to you for weeks at a time for monitoring you. The devices can be made in false teeth or caps and can also be placed in breast implants or other things surgically placed in your body.

In most cases the devices are injected into your neck and ears after gassing you during your sleep to stop you from waking up during the procedure in investigations which are usually false in nature. They do try to get you involved in drugs or guns or money laundering or other such crimes first before out right framing you for some crime to authorize their investigation against you to authorize the injection of you.

Some people they torture openly and others just believe they have tinnitus or arthritis others suffer from headaches and a large number of other different conditions. Others they talk to through the devices to make them appear nuts and they always call these people paranoid and mentally ill but they are really only tortured to deprive them of their lives and human rights under the pretense of law because they pose some threat to those in power. Many never even figure out what it is they know that is of a threat. I know all of the details on the designing of the devices and this is my case which is now before the Supreme Court. As you should know the Supreme Court is the finest court money can buy and these devices are used to protect most of the judges on the Supreme Court from being exposed for their corruption.

Some of you will slowly be tortured to death and others will be forced to kill or commit other crimes after being drove mad during the torture. Others that believe what they want you to believe may be kept alive and out of prison to be use to convince others of what is not true. The devices are even capable of terminating the target at the flip of a switch if the devices are injected into their neck. Once injected you are considered dead but in truth you are now a cyborg which is part human and part machine with the machine part trying to drive the human part mad. Chuck

Catcher of The Catcher in the Rye wrote:

> I would greatly appreciate hearing from ANYONE who either already has > researched or wants to research the microwave-audio effect in a reasonable & > sensible manner. ------------------------------

Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:38:51 +0200 From: "Ed" <e.maatkamp@hccnet.nl> Subject: Re: AA

Sorry sir, can you please explain to me who this Bill Wilson guy is? Just for your information, I don't live in the USA but in Europe. Ed

You wrote:

Sounds like we may have some friends of Bill Wilson on the group.

JV

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Date: Mon, 26-Mar-2001 09:11:34 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: RE: AA

Ed wrote: > Sorry sir, can you please explain to me who this Bill Wilson guy is? > Just for your information, I don't live in the USA but in Europe. > Ed > > You wrote: > > Sounds like we may have some friends of Bill Wilson on the group. > > JV

I believe he was one of the founding members of AA, I could be mistaken though. There was a movie out titled "My name is Bill W." or something like that a few years back.

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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 06:11:23 EST From: Zilson@aol.com Subject: Re: [MC] microwave audio

I reposted a piece a short time back that was written by Bob Paddock. The problem with the "Microwave Audio" device is the manner the human auditory system works. Can microwaves cause the necessary vibrations in the human 'hearing system without cooking it?

You will probably find a lot of 'Internet research' saying yes. Patents galore, but no actual working units. You WILL find a lot of low powered microwave device that work through walls. Can they be improvised to create the effects M. Persinger spoke of in his research? I don't know. But wasn't that about the ability to manipulate emotions, and senses (other than hearing)

West would be a good source or could direct you to good sources in this area.

Raven has been attempting to build such (microwave hearing) a device for years.

JZ

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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 04:23:58 -0800 (PST) From: Flora Gedenberg <cheerful144@yahoo.com> Subject: Bill Wilson is one of the founders of Alcoholic's Anonymous

He has a couple of good books for "being powerless" and how to work through Alcoholism. I use it as it works for me, and mine is a spiritual problem as well.

Only 5%of the people who go to A.A. actually get what they call the "program" and the rest either end up dead, insane, or incarcerated. One book of his is As Bill Sees it. It's just little tidbits that keep a crazy person on a level keel.

When I talked and talked for 30 years and nobody would listen that was all I had that helped keep me sane.

It will work for alot of problems if you just substitue alchol for what ever your obsession is.

I don't like the newer A.Aers as its all mixed up with "what your preference is for a sex partner" and I personally don't give a whack who likes pot bellied men, and who likes women.? What has "my" acceptance of your sex partner got to do with figs?

Flora

The road to success is always under construction.

http://www.thehungersite.com/ Click here: The Hunger Site Home - Donate Food for Free to Give to feed Hungry People in the World</A> Would you like power in your prayers? http://homepages.go.com/~cheerful144/prayerpower.htm

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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 04:53:08 -0800 (PST) From: Flora Gedenberg <cheerful144@yahoo.com> Subject: I can understand your objection to what you believe Ed

Ed. people in A.A. have been excruciatingly angry of me and unacepting of my higher power Jesus Christ. And I have been made an out cast by them and by the religious as well?

But for me, I had no where else to turn, and it works for me. You are doing love what they call "selective" listening. And maybe you're programed to do that. I wouldn't call a carp a carp till I knew where it came from and why it was there? Then make "well thought out critisizim."

We all have our reasons for being on guard, and I dont' say A.A. "did" it for me, I say I am a phsyologically ill person, and A.A. is dealing with a form of insanity, and since I had no where else to turn, and about 4,000 people only could tell me I was nuts I had to use the 12 steps of A.A. to work my program. I'm a lunatic with out using the principles of A.A. like the 12 steps and did you see that? And my higher power Jesus Christ.

And the religious just simply profoundly without even taking a moment to "see" so I had no where else to turn. I just hate it when we are fighting against each other, we have so many enemies that it just breaks my heart that you could help me, and I could help you and here we are splitting peas and corn and the Jack ass's that are doing this to us are having a good laugh.

Yes it's satanic, yes it's powerful, yes it's world wide, why can't I have an "opinion" ? It's merely helped me get through 37 years of agony and torment? My opinions are not written down in stone? And I'm not using those machines on any of you? But they are hammering at me nite and day? For the past two weeks.

Prayer from others lots of prayer from ourselves and speaking the word of God outloud, as Jesus prayed out loud. Jesus is Soverign, no one can ever out smart him or out do him God said so.

Please lets respect each others differances without being angry? Yes I'm fumbling around, if I hadn't lived my life myself I'd call me crazy too.?

What works for me may not work for you but lets not be selective in our comments if we haven't researched something lets wait and see if there may not be something from differant people that may help each other.

I can't live the religious way, yet I am very reverant for Christ and my web site is a clear testimonial to Christ. I'm not judging your faith, just your quick response to something you know very little about and make a profound qualifiying "That group is a bunch of lunatics and heritics"

Bill Wilson states that we do not appologize for believing in God. You should read the whole thing before you come down hard on something you "think" might be going on.

7 of teh 12 steps of A.A. deal with God. I'm not comming down on you? I'm merely pointing out that all of us regardless of our suffering are merely human beings and are at best subject to error. If You like somethings and want to use it, fine all the better take what we have you like and use it, and leave the rest for not being usable.

My answer may not work for you but i've only written about five letters so how can you possibly think you or assume you "know me?" or that My way is one of those kooky crap and ext?

Lets not fight amongst ourselves. I don't know the All time answers? Only that Christ is my high priest and nobody can take his place on earth and nobody can change a thing he said, no matter where they come from he is Soverign God.

Blessings on you, truly. Flora The road to success is always under construction.

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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 06:12:23 -0800 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> Subject: Children in mind control experiments

Cheryl and Lynn Hersha, authors of Secret Weapons, about the use of children in MK-ULTRA mind control experiments, were interviewed on Dreamland last night. Audio archive can be heard at http://www.unknowncountry.com/dreamland/. Caution: code words may be triggering.

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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:36:30 -0500 From: "A. Tyner" <atyner@nimbus.ocis.temple.edu> Subject: NYT: Sirhan Hypnotically Programmed

New York Times: March 23, 2001

National News Briefs; Sirhan Sirhan Is Denied Parole for the 11th Time

(AP) Sirhan Sirhan, the convicted assassin of Senator Robert F. Kennedy, was denied parole today, and his lawyer set forth the theory that Mr. Sirhan had been "hypnotically programmed" to kill Kennedy.

After an hourlong hearing at Corcoran State Prison, the three-member parole panel found Mr. Sirhan, 57, unsuitable for release because he refused to take responsibility.

Mr. Sirhan's lawyer, Lawrence Teeter, says his client was programmed to kill Kennedy on June 5, 1968, by government agents who wanted to prolong the Vietnam War.

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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:22:51 -0600 From: "R. Nelson" <protogod@swbell.net> Subject: Re: [MC] microwave audio

chuck wrote:

Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 23:45:07 -0700 From: "chuck" <xfiles@uswest.net> Cc: mc@topica.com Subject: Re: [MC] microwave audio

The devices being used against us are what the government calls monitoring devices and they are capable of monitoring us completely hearing every word and sending massive amounts of other information like where we are and how fast we are breathing and what our heart rate is and so on.

The sounds you hear are generated by the filters that were designed to filter out background sounds before transmission of what your saying or of what others around you are saying. These filters filter out background sounds like your breathing, heart beat and other body sounds that could make what your saying hard to hear. The filters are programmable and can be programed using radio waves to filter out different modes of torture and are as powerful as your computer in storing and using these modes of torture.

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An obvious case of silver poisoning: Silver poisoning http://home.swbell.net/protogod ) makes anyone who gets it empathic, and even a little psychic at the subconcious level; in some cases, at the concious level to some degree. Because of this, its victims see little bits and pieces of the total picture, but now always correctly or precisely.

In the first part of 1982, it was in the newspaper (St. Paul Pioneer Press) that voice recognition techology had been developed, and the the govrenment was going to use it in the telephone company, ostensibly to detect illegal drug activities. This was the only mention of it: there has never been another mention of it in the news since. Al you know is that when you make a collect call via AT&T, the computer can understand 'yes' and 'no'.

If you are familiar with the state of the art in software based voice recognition, for example Dragon Systems Naturally Speaking, and if you know computer technology then you know that what can be done in software will alw ays run orders of magnitude faster if implemented directly in hardware.

I personally seriously doubt that there are implantable microcomputer, as chuck theorizes. However, he may have gotten a glimpse of a somewhat similar reality.

The quality of the voice recognition the phone company had in 1982 dwarfs that that Dragon's software possesses today, n 2001. It uses an average voiceprint and does hardware voiceprint averaging. Dragon cannot do this, becase even at 1 gigahertz computers are not fast enough yet to do this in software. In hardware, a 5 megahertz clock rate can accomplish it, becuase it is done directly; no CPU is used.

I have suspected that since about 1984 or so, cable converter boxes, TV sets, automobiles, etc. have been outfitted with a voice recognition chip, an inverter circuit, and a modulated invisible light LED (ultravilot, most likely) for output, and 16 meg of RAM to hold a dictionary of downloaded words and phrases to listen for. If it hears a word or phrase it is programmed to act upon, it sends out a ultraviloet data stream (or a data signal back down the cable line) on a regular basis until it gets notified that its data has been recieved.

An inverter circuit is one of the most simple circuits in electronics; an electronics student in their second month of training can build one for $5 with parts from Radio Shack. Sound from a microphone or other source travelling down a wire is a continuous series of varying positive and negative voltages. An inverter makes a copy of the original signal, inverts it, and then mixes it back in-phase with the original signal. The inverter replaces all negative voltages with positive voltages and vice versa. Where it finds a +3, it repalces it with -3, where it finds -.0035, it generates +.0035, and so forth. Viewed on an oscilloscope, the signal appears upside down when viewed next to the original.

When the signal is mixed back together with the original, it cancels out the original signal completely. -.0035 + .0035 = 0 volts. -3 + 3 volts = zero volts. So it can sit there in your cable converter box, and eliminate the sound emanating from your telvision set, leaving only the voices in the room to be heard.

The only way to keep a secret in the modern day world (right on schedule there with '1984') is to write messages on paper, and then burn the paper. The good news is that the secret is out, and more and more people are learning about it. If may well not be safe to speak about sensitive plans in your house or car or even at the shopping mall or restaurant, and you know that the device is present and operating in the telephone system.

You know that every email sent across the internet gets scanned for catch words and phrases (the favoritves being "a shitload of money" "an unbelivable opportunity for us" and their variations, and so forth, money making being the prime directive.

Don't think is isn't also happening with voice communications.

I say that chuck has silver poisoning, it made him empathic, and he got a brief but not entirely precise or correct glimpse into the workings of things. I could say the same about something Flora Gedenberg said.

Silver poisoning has to be the single largest cause of headshrink's incomes. There are amny cases where someone is intentionally attacked, and there are many more cases where the victim is never intentionally attacked, but assumes that they are. This is easy enough to do, because if you have silver poisoning, then you ARE being attacked, by every television set and many other devices in any locale you exist in or pass through. It is easy to attach a purpose and an intent to it, even though it is random. Logically, if one is being attacked, there is usually an attacker: to think otherwise is absurd.

I can usually be found on dalnet or undernet in the #[FekLar] and #usa_politics channels

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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:31:40 -0600 From: "R. Nelson" <protogod@swbell.net> Subject: Silver Poisoning: correction

There are many cases where someone is intentionally attacked.

In most cases, the victim is never intentionally attacked, but assumes that they are.

This is easy enough to do, because if you have silver poisoning, then you ARE being attacked, by every television set and many other devices in any locale you exist in or pass through. It is easy to attach a purpose and an intent to it, even though it is random.

Logically, if one is being attacked, there is usually an attacker: to think otherwise is absurd.

In fact, if you were attacked and failed to beleive there was an attacker, and an intent or purpose behind the attack, this would indicate that there was something seriously wrong with you, and that you were some kind of idiot.

I can usually be found on dalnet or undernet in the #[FekLar] and #usa_politics channels

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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:42:34 -0600 From: "R. Nelson" <protogod@swbell.net> Subject: Silver poisoning

What a perfectly nasty little trap. Worse, because of qualities of television, the attack takes the form of amplified empathy, putting a face on the seeming attacker, and making the concept of an intentional attack even easier to adhere to.

http://home.swbell.net/protogod silver poisoning

On the bright side, if this problem does not get addressed and eliminated, and the suffering continues, then two other aspects of silver poisoning will prove to be the downfall of the scum who know the problem exists and refuse to address it. One, the empaths and psychics that it produces will deal with these retards in the real world, because it occassionally produces some truly powerful abilities. Two, the spiritual aspect that silver poisoning generates will spell an immensely unpleasant destiny. This won't be a case of a one to one ratio: they will endure worse suffering than they have caused, not as much, and the ratio could be a respectable number of orders of magnitude greater.

I can usually be found on dalnet or undernet in the #[FekLar] and #usa_politics channels

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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:07:15 -0700 From: "chuck" <xfiles@uswest.net> Cc: mc@topica.com Subject: Re: [MC] microwave audio

> I personally seriously doubt that there are implantable microcomputer, as > chuck theorizes. However, he may have gotten a glimpse of a somewhat > similar reality. >

Any reasonable person knows that these devices are not only possible but have been used for decades. One CIA agent wrote a book on the implants they were using in animals decades ago and they now use implants to monitor fish and track them in the wild. They use implants to monitor bears and even use the devices to monitor them in the winter to check their heart rate.

President Clinton in his last State of the Union address told that American people that there were now micro supper computers now coming on line that would be replacing today's super computers. The president briefed the American people that they were molecular computer about the size of a drop of water and were as powerful as today supper computers.

There are many articles out on the miniteration of computers like the ones they now make that can fit into a human cell. These are to small to torture people but in the future who knows. The ones used to torture us with magnetic fields are about the size of a grain of rice and the ones used in our ears can be as small as a small sonic disk which is barely visible to the naked eye yet it can be used to torture if placed on or near the ear drum.

Popular Science did an article on the miniteration of electric motors about 5 years ago. The smallest electric motors they were building were only atoms in size with the piston being a single atom. If I had a million of these motors I could put them on something and show you but you would be unable to see them because a million of them is still to small to see with the naked eyes.

What I'm talking about is public information and what the government has is always 20 to 40 years ahead of what the public knows about to protect national security.

I am not some uniformed nut I was working with the FBI and the FBI says that the devices are CIA devices not silver poisoning. Someone has badly misled you to believe what they want you to believe and nothing I can say will change your mind. Chuck

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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:13:38 +0200 From: "Ed" <e.maatkamp@hccnet.nl> Subject: Re: I can understand your objection to what you believe Ed

Flora,

I'm glad you know Jesus, that is the most important thing there is. We may have a hell on earth, but nonetheless a heaven afterwards ;-) Isn't that great? I only joined this list because I was invited, not because I am a mindcontrol victim myself. I sympathize with you and can only hope and pray that you will one day feel more whole ....

Love, Ed

------------------------------------------ Ed. people in A.A. have been excruciatingly angry of me and unacepting of my higher power Jesus Christ. And I have been made an out cast by them and by the religious as well?

But for me, I had no where else to turn, and it works for me. You are doing love what they call "selective" listening. And maybe you're programed to do that. I wouldn't call a carp a carp till I knew where it came from and why it was there? Then make "well thought out critisizim."

We all have our reasons for being on guard, and I dont' say A.A. "did" it for me, I say I am a phsyologically ill person, and A.A. is dealing with a form of insanity, and since I had no where else to turn, and about 4,000 people only could tell me I was nuts I had to use the 12 steps of A.A. to work my program. I'm a lunatic with out using the principles of A.A. like the 12 steps and did you see that? And my higher power Jesus Christ.

And the religious just simply profoundly without even taking a moment to "see" so I had no where else to turn. I just hate it when we are fighting against each other, we have so many enemies that it just breaks my heart that you could help me, and I could help you and here we are splitting peas and corn and the Jack ass's that are doing this to us are having a good laugh.

Yes it's satanic, yes it's powerful, yes it's world wide, why can't I have an "opinion" ? It's merely helped me get through 37 years of agony and torment? My opinions are not written down in stone? And I'm not using those machines on any of you? But they are hammering at me nite and day? For the past two weeks.

Prayer from others lots of prayer from ourselves and speaking the word of God outloud, as Jesus prayed out loud. Jesus is Soverign, no one can ever out smart him or out do him God said so.

Please lets respect each others differances without being angry? Yes I'm fumbling around, if I hadn't lived my life myself I'd call me crazy too.?

What works for me may not work for you but lets not be selective in our comments if we haven't researched something lets wait and see if there may not be something from differant people that may help each other.

I can't live the religious way, yet I am very reverant for Christ and my web site is a clear testimonial to Christ. I'm not judging your faith, just your quick response to something you know very little about and make a profound qualifiying "That group is a bunch of lunatics and heritics"

Bill Wilson states that we do not appologize for believing in God. You should read the whole thing before you come down hard on something you "think" might be going on.

7 of teh 12 steps of A.A. deal with God. I'm not comming down on you? I'm merely pointing out that all of us regardless of our suffering are merely human beings and are at best subject to error. If You like somethings and want to use it, fine all the better take what we have you like and use it, and leave the rest for not being usable.

My answer may not work for you but i've only written about five letters so how can you possibly think you or assume you "know me?" or that My way is one of those kooky crap and ext?

Lets not fight amongst ourselves. I don't know the All time answers? Only that Christ is my high priest and nobody can take his place on earth and nobody can change a thing he said, no matter where they come from he is Soverign God.

Blessings on you, truly. Flora

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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:07:36 EST From: SMARTNEWS@aol.com Subject: re: gardner's theories and opinions

Dear List,

Please find information on this below.

Sincerely, Neil Brick

This may be heavy for survivors of abuse to read.

from http://www.geocities.com/nafcj/Dr.RichardGardnerAReviewof.html

Dr. Richard Gardner: A Review of His Theories and Opinions on Atypical Sexuality, Pedophilia, and Treatment Issues by Stephanie J. Dallam, RN, MSN, FNP

Please note: I do not agree with Gardner's ideas. "Richard A. Gardner, M.D., is a prominent forensic expert with an extensive career of evaluating children, especially during custody disputes between parents." "Gardner (1992, p. 588) does not believe in doing therapy with fathers who deny committing sexual molestation. If father desires treatment, the therapist should focus on enhancing his self-esteem. This is accomplished by helping him to appreciate that "there is a certain amount of pedophilia in all of us" and that "pedophilia has been considered the norm by the vast majority of individuals in the history of the world"(Gardner 1992, ppi.592-3)." "Gardner's Views on Pedophilia - "The sexually abused child is generally considered to be the victim," though the child may initiate sexual encounters by 'seducing' the adult." "Gardner (1991, p. 118) suggests that Western society's is "excessively moralistic and punitive" toward pedophiles."

from http://www.geocities.com/nafcj/PASreview.htm

The Evidence for Parental Alienation Syndrome: An Examination of Gardner's Theories and Opinions by Stephanie J. Dallam, RN, MSN, FNP, Paralegal "It should be noted that Gardner's views on pedophilia are at odds with the scientific research on child sexual abuse which has consistently and conclusively shown the negative long-term effect of sexual abuse on children."

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Date: Mon, 26-Mar-2001 22:32:18 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: Effects of high voltage

A graphic example of the effects of harassment equipment. This past weekend the electric charge being induced into my home reached levels so high that I would get a small electro-static shock with characteristic snapping sound while in the bathtub, sitting in 6" or so of water. This would occur every time I would reach for the hot water tap to pour in some more bath water. There are no electrical appliances near the tub at all and it is a cast iron tub. The electrification would effect areas of the boby that were not submerged, producing the characteristic skin irritations as well as the small shocks. I can think of no natural reason for the production of so much charge to a localized area. Any ideas?

JV

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Date: Mon, 26-Mar-2001 22:39:30 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: RE: Effects of high voltage

John Vincent wrote: > A graphic example of the effects of harassment equipment. > This past weekend the electric charge being induced into my home reached > > levels so high that I would get a small electro-static shock with > characteristic snapping sound while in the bathtub, sitting in 6" or so > of water. This would occur every time I would reach for the hot water > tap to pour in some more bath water. There are no electrical appliances > near the tub at all and it is a cast iron tub. > The electrification would effect areas of the boby that were not > submerged, producing the characteristic skin irritations as well as the > small shocks. I can think of no natural reason for the production of so > much charge to a localized area. Any ideas? > > JV

It occurs to me that high voltage sources capable of producing this much charge will also produce low level X-Rays (no way around it) which would get stronger as you approach the high voltage source.

JV

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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:40:39 EST From: SMARTNEWS@aol.com Subject: re: hersha's radio interview on mc

Dear List,

Info on this is below.

Sincerely, Neil Brick

This may be very triggering, please use caution.

Dreamland Special: Children Dreamland Special: Children In Trouble. Kids Who Kill and Kids Used in Cold War Spy Programs - 3/25/01 - An interview with Secret Weapons - co-authors Cheryl and Lynn Hersha

http://www.unknowncountry.com/dreamland/?id

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Date: Tue, 27-Mar-2001 01:28:59 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: ION Pump

Device will transmit wireless energy

http://www.nuenergy.org/plasma.htm

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Re: [MC] NYT: Sirhan Hypnotically Programmed By thefbiisthecatcherintherye@hotmail.com

CNN.com: Inside the NSA By atyner@nimbus.ocis.temple.edu

Re: [MC] NYT: Sirhan Hypnotically Programmed By xfiles@uswest.net

Ideo motor action-cont. By eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com

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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:41:01 -0000 From: "Catcher of The Catcher in the Rye" <thefbiisthecatcherintherye@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [MC] NYT: Sirhan Hypnotically Programmed

Thanks for passing that on. The autopsy of Robert F. Kennedy PROVES that Sirhan didn't do it. RFK was shot FROM BEHIND. Sirhan was standing IN FRONT of RFK. The bullets that killed RFK left burn marks on his clothing, which means the gun that killed him was about an inch from his body. All witnesses agree that Sirhan never got closer than about a yard to RFK. After the first or second shot a bypasser grabbed Sirhan's arm and diverted it AWAY from RFK. RFK was hit by three bullets. And the bullets that killed RFK travelled upwards and ended up stuck in the ceiling tiles which the LAPD removed and destroyed. Sirhan sirhan on the other hand, held his hand and arm at a straight angle. CONCLUSION : Sirhan Sirhan hallucinated that RFK must be "assassinated assassinated assassinated assassinated", fired in RFK's direction and injured a number of people who all recovered. BUT THE AUTOPSY PROVES THAT SIRHAN SIRHAN DID NOT KILL ROBERT F. KENNEDY ----------------------------------------- New York Times: March 23, 2001

National News Briefs; Sirhan Sirhan Is Denied Parole for the 11th Time

(AP) Sirhan Sirhan, the convicted assassin of Senator Robert F. Kennedy, was denied parole today, and his lawyer set forth the theory that Mr. Sirhan had been "hypnotically programmed" to kill Kennedy.

After an hourlong hearing at Corcoran State Prison, the three-member parole panel found Mr. Sirhan, 57, unsuitable for release because he refused to take responsibility.

Mr. Sirhan's lawyer, Lawrence Teeter, says his client was programmed to kill Kennedy on June 5, 1968, by government agents who wanted to prolong the Vietnam War.

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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:52:46 -0500 From: "A. Tyner" <atyner@nimbus.ocis.temple.edu> Subject: CNN.com: Inside the NSA

Series of five articles: Here are first three:

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/nsa/stories/codebreakers/index.html http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/nsa/stories/privacy/index.html http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/nsa/stories/codemakers/index.html

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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 07:47:05 -0700 From: "chuck" <xfiles@uswest.net> Cc: mc@topica.com Subject: Re: [MC] NYT: Sirhan Hypnotically Programmed

Catcher of The Catcher in the Rye wrote:

> Thanks for passing that on. The autopsy of Robert F. Kennedy PROVES that > Sirhan didn't do it. RFK was shot FROM BEHIND. Sirhan was standing IN FRONT > of RFK. The bullets that killed RFK left burn marks on his clothing, which

As I continued to fill in the missing pieces and continued to brief the FBI on the 1,000's of assassinations we had from George Bush's files the DEA obtained a warrant under perjury and came in and injected me with the devices they still torture me with in retaliation for supplying the FBI with the information and to cover up the DEA's part in the cover up of these assassinations. Chuck

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Date: Wed, 28-Mar-2001 03:47:34 GMT From: James R. Rose <eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com> Subject: Ideo motor action-cont.

The significance of speech, whether vocal in the child or sub-vocal in the adult, is that the stimuli leading to the speech activity occur at the same time that the subject is performing some actions.[hypnopaedia-sleep conditioning-leading to hypnosis-psychophysical] As the speech is heard as a feedback, the stimuli from this combination involved with "talking to yourself " become conditioned to other performances involved. The child who says "now I take off my sock" learns, then to take off its socks "when those words are spoken either by itself or another," or when some symbolic

[ Gestalt deceptive

(subliminal) images-laws of contrast-telescopic points of view-reflected

light thereof (direct-indirect-minature-magnified, like that of a shadow-brief glimpse-borderlines-one to next and depending on which borderline dependes on which can be seen at a given moment, in a collage

of gestalt the eye moves from one to the next-,'is it there?' did you see that?'can you see that?'; angle of view is critical to viewing so as

to cause a conflict between persons unaware of the physics involved in angle and reflected light, in effect, mirroring the Gestalt art effects as relates to borderlines ]

(neural) substitute or surrogate for this remark occurs. When the poet says "the thought is father to the act," he is giving us a bit of psychological lore, as the thought, now identified as the verbal expression or its neural substitute, does iniciate the response. This kind of activity used to be identified by the expression of "ideo-motor action." Perhaps we now have a basis for such an expression.

Not all words, of course are "action" words, and the language might have to have frequent assists from other neural activity associated with sensory experiences either from the external world or from internal responses. In playing chess, a player might have difficulty in preventing himself from moving a piece to some square; he hesitates because danger may come

from many quarters and he has difficulty "visualizing" how the piece would look if placed in the square involved.

[ even greater when forced sequence of verbal expressions is over riding that of natural occurring humunculous and visualizations, mesmerized-hypnotized-"I always dream in full color"leads to mental imaging coinciding to artificial series arrangements, utilizing the natural psychophysical machinery to cause performances-actions-responses-reactions-overwhelming impulses-reoccurring as intermittent conditioning; as constant stimuli there is a condition of being unable to attend to external stimuli, another of many techniques utilized in "task" routines, ex: ride the bus

miss stop, have to amend oversight, reoccurring, feeling of extended effort by heckling phrase constructs,"u dont kno who your fool n with"u awta go"ur dum"u did it"ur for get n it-this"ur it-this"this sux"u jus did it-this"ur b n made a fool of"I dont care"ur queer"I dont care--(1/4

to 1/2 delay) a bout noth n"." ." ." ." .";Walk to library "ur for get n"u jus lost it" either lock keys in house, leave billfold,etc.,etc.,lose money . . . . .;my debit card was deactivated and could not access, Bank does not know how occurred, car remains unrepaired(minor work for a guy who can take a car apart from one end to

the other) and always had car running within a day or two, all his life;

when e-mailing people "u love him"u queer" is reoccurring, makes for difficult communication; phone overcharge $85 and listed in phone listing as Tribal Court, calls other than these are not getting through.Father tried on 2 seperate phones and could not get through from

texas. Friends, have them try, cant get through. Report to phone company,no repair as of yet. If you think I'm not being done think again. Since at library, froze three computers, floppy sticks and wont come out,"word" wont open floppy. Arrived at 7pm and is now 8:32 and now

normal usage, over and over-expended effort-cresendoing-explosive will-drivers-......>.>....]

The rules of chess demand "hands off" until you are ready to move. If the player has the assistance of seeing the piece in position in place before he definately places it on the square, he may profit. "Such sensory or imaginal processes aid the language operation" in which the chess player, like any problem solver, "is continuously engaged."

Many kinds of responses are involved in thinking besides those of language. These may include such response patterns as "movements of the eyes from side to side or up and down when we think of positions of objects.

[ or as secondary reinforcement for a verbal expression, or as a means of illiciting the movement for the purpose of deceptive appearances, generating aura-concept toward a person(s) observing the movement, out of context,(talking out loud to self as for appearances, "say this","say it ","keep re peat n this", "u just told us" as hypnosis at a distance, as he is viewing a subject.) Ex: bladder or bowel movements, urgency, commode: "I gotta take a crap-piss"later as

per conditioning there is antedating in which the response occurs quicker and quicker, "a tingle of excitement, of expectancy"almost as if

in anticipation"(i.e., William James), until the response is as quick as

the cue, recall Pavlov, tones-light as paired associate or conditioned stimulus, then consider the "task" iniciatation (chore-work etc.) followed by a bladder or bowel cue as a task interuption, and reoccurring even after relieving oneself, or any of a number of such psychophysical activities as "task" routines over and over and over causing a feeling of unnecessary expended effort, which is cresendoed by

more cues, ratios and intensities, as relates to heart rate speed, stinging, itching, aches, pains, contractions, rigid muscle-tendons, migrain headaches. Factor of controling the heartrate and intensity of beat, can alter the entire system. Use of constriction and dialation can

determines area of blood flow-sensation(s), time factor as a drive mechanism to creat fatigue muscle and tendon. How frequent, how intense?, as intense as the adjective utilized in the verbal expressions, add hypnopaedia-hypnosis-electromagnism and there is a definate "operational system" for manipulating the flesh and blood machine called man and animal ]

If you watch someone's eyes closely and ask him to think of some geographical location which the person has never visited and only knows through a map, he is likely to show an eye-movement corresponding to a search of a map; e.g., children in the eastern part of the United States will move thier eyes leftward when asked to think of California. Thinking of an airplane may be accompanied by actual eye-movements or tendencies to move the eyes up. Thinking about ice-cold water may be accompanied by a tightening of the skin, hair-raising, and "gooseflesh" if the thinking is rather seriously

done. On the other hand, a person who has no familiarity with ice-cold water or ice of any kind cannot think about it except on a verbal level.

[ whether heard consciously or unconsciously, instruction

set-(s)-command-(s)-sequence-serial arrangement-(s)-voice character or

hypnotist, or designated as voice to heed ]

In laboratory experiments psychologists have been able to "condition the constriction of blood vessels" ( a characteristic reaction to plunging the arm into cold water ) to various "external cues" and to the "self-stimulation by thinking of a particular nonsense syllable,"( Rossler and Brogden,1943 ). In such experiments the subject is instructed to say a particular syllable out loud and some means of constricting the blood vessels is applied--it could be electric shock or cold water. After pairing of these events the spoken sound is enough to elicit the vasoconstriction. Later on, the subject is told merely to say the syllable to himself, to "think" it, and the vasoconstriction occurs just as before.

[ such is the same for many activities of psychophysical-tachistoscope-television-environmental

and behavioral conditioning, infrastructural "foundation" ]

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NYT: Sirhan Hypnotically Programmed By thefbiisthecatcherintherye@hotmail.com

Arms Race in Space By atyner@nimbus.ocis.temple.edu

Mass-media mind control By west@sonic.net

Support for "Grassy Knoll" Gunmen By atyner@nimbus.ocis.temple.edu

re: sexual abuse and eating disturbance in children By smartnews@aol.com

Ultra Simple Charge Detector By frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca

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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 11:24:37 -0000 From: "Catcher of The Catcher in the Rye" <thefbiisthecatcherintherye@hotmail.com> Subject: NYT: Sirhan Hypnotically Programmed

NEW RESPONSE AT BOTTOM ----------------------- Catcher of The Catcher in the Rye wrote:

Thanks for passing that on. The autopsy of Robert F. Kennedy PROVES that Sirhan didn't do it. RFK was shot FROM BEHIND. Sirhan was standing IN FRONT of RFK. The bullets that killed RFK left burn marks on his clothing, which means the gun that killed him was about an inch from his body. All witnesses agree that Sirhan never got closer than about a yard to RFK. After the first or second shot a bypasser grabbed Sirhan's arm and diverted it AWAY from RFK. RFK was hit by three bullets. And the bullets that killed RFK travelled upwards and ended up stuck in the ceiling tiles which the LAPD removed and destroyed. Sirhan sirhan on the other hand, held his hand and arm at a straight angle. CONCLUSION : Sirhan Sirhan hallucinated that RFK must be "assassinated assassinated assassinated assassinated", fired in RFK's direction and injured a number of people who all recovered. BUT THE AUTOPSY PROVES THAT SIRHAN SIRHAN DID NOT KILL ROBERT F. KENNEDY ----------------------------------------- New York Times: March 23, 2001 National News Briefs; Sirhan Sirhan Is Denied Parole for the 11th Time

AP) Sirhan Sirhan, the convicted assassin of Senator Robert F. Kennedy, was denied parole today, and his lawyer set forth the theory that Mr. Sirhan had been "hypnotically programmed" to kill Kennedy.

After an hourlong hearing at Corcoran State Prison, the three-member parole panel found Mr. Sirhan, 57, unsuitable for release because he refused to take responsibility.

Mr. Sirhan's lawyer, Lawrence Teeter, says his client was programmed to kill Kennedy on June 5, 1968, by government agents who wanted to prolong the Vietnam War.

In 1992 while I was working with the FBI briefing them on the CIA files we had read I briefed the FBI with the information you wrote here. What you wrote is correct. I also briefed them on the assassination of JFK by the CIA and the killing of Mary Joe and the framing of Ted Kennedy for her death.

As I continued to fill in the missing pieces and continued to brief the FBI on the 1,000's of assassinations we had from George Bush's files the DEA obtained a warrant under perjury and came in and injected me with the devices they still torture me with in retaliation for supplying the FBI with the information and to cover up the DEA's part in the cover up of these assassinations. Chuck ------------------------------------------------ NEW RESPONSE :

Keep in mind that the term "HYPNOSIS" is probably a codeword for an artificially induced MODEL PSYCHOSIS. When making the point that someone who fired a gun is innocent it is very important to get the weird abberations of science straight. In other words, if the same techniques were to be applied to, for example, ABC Nightline reporter Ted Koppel, he too would not be able to avoid hallucinating that "RFK must be assassinated assassinated assassinated assassinated" and take actions in this direction. And I can't see Ted Koppel ever being hypnotized. But I could very easily see him become an unwitting, involuntary victim of a secretly and covertly induced Model psychosis, and once in its grip, being cleverly manipulated with a sophisticated variety of hi-tech trickery and psychological gimmicks in a way he then would have no longer a defense against.

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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 08:35:02 -0500 From: "A. Tyner" <atyner@nimbus.ocis.temple.edu> Subject: Arms Race in Space

PHILADELPHIA INQUIRER

Sunday, March 18, 2001

Section: EDITORIAL

ARMS RACE IN OUTER SPACE?

A U.S. REPORT CONTAINS PERILOUS DREAMS OF WORLD DOMINATION.

By Karl Grossman

The United States is seeking to make space a new arena of war.

This is in violation of the intent of the basic international law on space, the Outer Space Treaty (OST) of 1967. The OST, ratified by most of the world's nations, sets aside space for "peaceful purposes."

But the U.S. administration and military have other ideas.

"In the coming period the United States will conduct operations to, from, in and through space in support of its national interests both on the Earth and in space," declares the recently released report of the "Space Commission" chaired by U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.

Stressing that it is "possible to project power through and from space in response to events anywhere in the world," the report declares that "missions initiated from Earth or space . . . would give the United States a much stronger deterrent and, in a conflict, an extraordinary military advantage."

The 13-member panel, formally called the Commission to Assess United States National Security Space Management and Organization, recommends a transition of the U.S. Space Command, which now coordinates U.S. space military activities, into a "Space Corps," a separate military entity like the Marine Corps.

The report follows up a series of military reports that call for the United States to "control space" and from it to "dominate" the Earth below. These include the "Vision for 2020" report of the Space Command, its cover depicting a laser weapon shooting a beam from space zapping a target below. Vision for 2020 then proclaims the Space Command's mission - "dominating the space dimension of military operations to protect U.S. interests and investment."

Vision for 2020 compares U.S. military plans for space to how centuries ago "nations built navies to protect and enhance their commercial interests," how the empires of Europe ruled the waves and thus the world. The Space Command's Long Range Plan says, "Space power in the 21st century looks similar to previous military revolutions, such as aircraft-carrier warfare and Blitzkrieg." A Space Command logo: "Master of Space."

Far more than words are involved. About $6 billion a year - plus funds in the "black" or secret budget - have in recent years been going to U.S. space military programs.The Alpha High-Energy Laser, a TRW space weapon, last year was test-fired for the 22d time. The Space-Based Laser, a joint TRW, Lockheed Martin and Boeing project, got the go-ahead last year. Its "lifecycle cost" is between $20 billion and $30 billion. In December, the Pentagon chose Stennis Space Center in Mississippi as its development site - and that was under the Clinton administration. In President Bush, we have an administration far more gung-ho for "Star Wars."

And although U.S. citizens may not be familiar with the full extent of what is going on, the nations of the world are.

Because of the U.S. plans, there was a United Nation vote in November on a resolution for "Prevention of an Arms Race in Outer Space." It sought to "reaffirm" the OST, specifically its provision that space be kept for peaceful purposes. More than 160 nations voted yes. We abstained.

It was a Philadelphian, Craig Eisendrath, who as a young foreign service officer at the State Department in the 1960s, was instrumental in drafting the OST. "We sought to deweaponize space before it got weaponized," he explains.

Our leadership may think this country can control space and dominate the Earth below, but other nations will not sit back and accept that. They will respond in kind. There will be an arms race and inevitably war in space.

Our friend and neighbor Canada is leading a U.N. initiative (strongly backed by Russia and China) to strengthen the OST with a ban on all weapons in space. (The treaty now bans nuclear weapons and weapons of mass destruction.) Space could be kept for peace and mechanisms put in place to assure compliance. But our country opposes Canada's effort.

"If the U.S. is allowed to move the arms race into space, there will be no return," says Bruce Gagnon, coordinator to the Global Network Against Weapons and Nuclear Power In Space ( www.space4peace.org ). "We have this one chance, this one moment in history, to stop the weaponization of space from happening."

There's only a narrow window to prevent the heavens from becoming a war zone.

Karl Grossman, professor of journalism at the State University of New York/College at Old Westbury, wrote the forthcoming book "Weapons in Space" and the TV documentary "Star Wars Returns."

Copyright 2001 PHILADELPHIA NEWSPAPERS INC.

May not be reprinted without permission.

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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 09:45:02 -0800 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> Subject: Mass-media mind control

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Look Who's Suggesting ABC, CBS, and NBC combine Nightly News Casts!

CBS Sixty Minutes Producer Don Hewitt must be reading our Network America e-wires.

Earlier this month Hewitt suggested that ABC, CBS, and NBC combine their nightly 6:30 PM newscasts. (Veteran readers know that this Network America e-wire has led the charge on the internet (thanks to all of you!) in spreading the good word that the news departments at the 5 Big TV Networks -- ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, and FOX -- coordinate their news everyday in what amounts to a treasonous conspiracy of mind warfare against the American people.)

We couldn't agree more. Hewitt's stated reason was because such consolidation would save the three Biggest TV networks money. Implicit in Hewitt's suggestion, though, is an admission that all three nightly newscasts are identical with regards to: a) the major stories they cover each day; b) the angle they cover those major stories from; c) the information they suppress about the stories they do cover; and d) the stories they ignore and suppress.

Hewitt was the Sixty Minutes producer who rushed Bill and Hillary Clinton onto his program the week after Gennifer Flowers went public against presidential candidate Clinton in 1992 right before the New Hampshire Primary. On that Sixty Minutes spot, two days before the New Hampshire primary, Clinton vaguely admitted he had caused pain in his marriage and Hillary, faking a mild southern accent, said she was not some kind of a "stand by your man" little woman.

The Big Media then used this lame excuse for TV theater to justify Bill Clinton's "comeback" - at the same time they universally tried to discredit Gennifer Flowers's revelations - even though Flowers made available taped phone conversations with Bill Clinton admitting the illicit relationship and asking Flowers not to admit or confirm anything to the press about their adulterous affair.

This same CBS producer, Don Hewitt, then bragged that he and Sixty Minutes had saved the Clinton presidency by airing this cozy spot on a show watched by millions of Americans.

In fact, this little stunt and the collaboration of all the Big TV networks (neither FOX nor MSNBC existed then) is one of the best proofs of the mind-warfare conspiracy against the American people by the Major TV Networks. That Don Hewitt knows what he's talking about. He knows that the Big Media and the Big Bankers work together to promote their chosen candidates - and they weren't going to let an average American (status wise) like Gennifer Flowers blow their plans for 8 years of Clinton - even though these same Big TV networks sunk Gary Hart's Presidential candidacy (for one anti-Isreali comment Hart had made on McNeil-Lehrer) on the exact same basis 4 years earlier. The "chosen" candidates like Clinton, however, must ever remain on pins and needles, because they are not high enough up in the political food chain to know what the next day's news headlines will bring.

The combining of the Major TV Networks nightly newscasts would bring it out into the open: they are all the same newscast anyway, coordinated by the same like-minded crowd. And this is why the "powers that be" will never do it. Right now, almost every American still believes that the nightly "story picks" by ABC, CBS, and NBC validate that the "chosen" stories are the only stories worth covering. If anything else was important, the vast majority of gullible Americans reason, the Big TV Networks would all choose to cover it, right?

60 Minutes Producer Don Hewitt spoke out of turn and some reporters picked it up. Nevertheless, the mouthing of this suggestion by a major Media Insider is very helpful. Three cheers for the Arrogance of Power!

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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:39:19 -0500 From: "A. Tyner" <atyner@nimbus.ocis.temple.edu> Subject: Support for "Grassy Knoll" Gunmen

Probe Online links three news articles dated 3/26/01 reporting a scientific study that substantiates gunfire coming from the "grassy knoll" in the killing of President John F. Kennedy, November 22, 1963.

http://www.webcom.com/ctka/index.html

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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 21:06:19 EST From: SMARTNEWS@aol.com Subject: re: sexual abuse and eating disturbance in children

Dear List,

Below please find this article.

Sincerely, Neil Brick

This may be heavy for survivors of abuse to read.

Pathways mediating sexual abuse and eating disturbance in children. Wonderlich S, Crosby R, Mitchell J, Thompson K, Redlin J, Demuth G, Smyth J

Int J Eat Disord 2001 Apr;29(3):270-279

Twenty 10-15-year-old female children who were receiving treatment following reported childhood sexual abuse and 20 age-matched controls were compared on a series of measures assessing eating disorder behaviors, body image concerns, substance use, mood, impulsive behavior, and self-concept. RESULTS: Sexually abused children reported higher levels of eating disorder behaviors, impulsive behaviors, and drug abuse than controls. Furthermore, behavioral impulsivity provided the strongest mediational effect between a history of childhood sexual abuse and purging and restrictive dieting behavior....These data support the hypothesis that childhood sexual abuse is related to disordered eating in children, and extend similar findings that have been previously reported with adults....Copyright 2001 by John Wiley & Sons, Inc.

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Date: Thu, 29-Mar-2001 02:23:17 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: Ultra Simple Charge Detector

An ultra simple dual polarity charge detector design. Will detect both positive and negative charged states and give a visual LED indication of the presence and direction of charge movement (toward or away from the pickup antenna) Circuit can be assembled by a novice for approx $20

http://www.icom.ca/~mccoy/#charge

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national exposure By rodthistle@bigpond.com

RE: national exposure By frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca

Nick Begich, author of "Earth Rising" & 2 other books By 1927@glasscity.net

RE: Ultra Simple Charge Detector By frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca

re: preschool children can be reliable witnesses By smartnews@aol.com

RE: Shocker By jhgraf2@earthlink.net

RE: Shocker By west@sonic.net

Conductive Garments By frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca

RE: Ultra Simple Charge Detector By frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca

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Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 22:38:24 +1000 From: "Rodney" <rodthistle@bigpond.com> Subject: national exposure

Hi everyone, I believe I have found an avenue for credible national exposure of MC here in Australia. This morning I was listening to a nationally broadcast talkback radio program, hosted by Dr Karl Kruszelnicki. Dr Karl is a heavily accredited, well respected scientist/author. He is the current Julius Sumner Miller Fellow at the Uni of Sydney. One of his outstanding attributes is having designed and built a machine to pick up electrical signals from the human retina.

A woman rang in and explained that she had purchased a device that promised to remove insects and pests from the house by emitting pulses of EMR. Using her own words "the device worked". The device also apparently worked on her and her young boy. Her symptoms were intense headaches and pain in her ears. She first realised the problem when her youngest boy began to uncontrollably twitch. At first she thought it was some kind of nervous condition he was growing through and the family laughed it off. He apparently was having a fit of the twitches when she placed her hand on top of his head and felt intense heat being emitted from his head. He had a temperature of 40C. Normal is 36.8C. She rushed him to hospital where on arrival the child was completely limp. He has since made a full recovery. After she had turned off the device, magically her symptoms and her childs symptoms disappeared. Her question to Dr Karl was "what did he know of the effects of EMR on the body and specifically to her unborn child?"

Dr Karl immediately stated it depends on the type of EMR being emitted and then as an example stated "that microwaves at a particular frequency coupled with audio can be heard inside the persons head". I'M EXCITED. This is a real opportunity to pose some questions to Dr Karl re his knowledge of this phenomena while speaking to 300,000 plus audience. The question is "what questions?" I WILL NOT be posing as a victim of MC as this could be detrimental to the cause, rather a concerned citizen looking at the bigger picture of mind control. I need some information regarding the "supposed use" of the technology during the Gulf War as a leading question, (super advanced development of the technology), then leading into shielding (how would I prevent this happening to me), then onto raven (stating I have found a very interesting site highlighting the use and effects of such technologies).

I would appreciate some information re the Gulf and any feedback regarding my intended position. The program airs every Thursday 11am- 12noon EST (Australia). TripleJ.

Regards, Rodney ------------------------------

Date: Thu, 29-Mar-2001 15:05:02 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: RE: national exposure

Rodney wrote: > Hi everyone, > Dr Karl immediately stated it depends on the type of EMR being emitted > and then as an example stated "that microwaves at a particular frequency > coupled with audio can be heard inside the persons head". I'M EXCITED. > This is a real opportunity to pose some questions to Dr Karl re his > knowledge of this phenomena while speaking to 300,000 plus audience. > > The question is "what questions?" I WILL NOT be posing as a victim of MC > as this could be detrimental to the cause, rather a concerned citizen > looking at the bigger picture of mind control. I need some information > regarding the "supposed use" of the technology during the Gulf War as a > leading question, (super advanced development of the technology), then > leading into shielding (how would I prevent this happening to me), then > onto raven (stating I have found a very interesting site highlighting > the use and effects of such technologies). > > I would appreciate some information re the Gulf and any feedback > regarding my intended position. > The program airs every Thursday 11am- 12noon EST (Australia). TripleJ. > > Regards, > Rodney >

QUESTION:

What are the Doctors thoughts on the ethics of the use of the type of technology that he mentions amoungst other types of technology as well (by various interests that we don't need to get in to) on humans beings for the purpose of antagonism, harassment or behaviour modification purposes, under non-consentual circumstances?

QUESTION:

What are the Doctors thoughts on the use of the type of technology that he mentions on human beings, including children when the use of these technologies could quite easily lead to permanent crippling or death?

QUESTION:

What are the Doctors thoughts on the method of consent which is normally used in these circumstances, which often involves factions within the Government obtaining Proxy Consent from the victims Family members, Legal and Medical Authorities, without the victims knowledge, prior to the administration of these technologies.

BTW

I have personally buried several people who were cut down in the prime of life as a direct result of the use of such technologies and methods (by various interests that we don't need to get in to) while in the middle of receiving their "theraputic treatments" so to speak.

I could go on and on

JV

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Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:02:32 -0800 From: Pat Mougey <1927@glasscity.net> CC: 1927@glasscity.net Subject: Nick Begich, author of "Earth Rising" & 2 other books

For your information:

We just want to let you know about the following upcoming radio program:

Dr. Nick Begich will appear live on the Art Bell show Monday, April 2 from 9pm to 1am Pacific time.

Subject: A recent Chinese report gathered by the Foreign Broadcast Information Service, a news collecting organization operated by the Central Intelligence Agency, confirms a number of new weapons technologies. Hear about those technologies and their potential implications.

People often ask what they can do to assist Earthpulse. If you are interested in getting the word out about Earthpulse efforts, contact your favorite radio programs and let them know that you would like to hear us on those stations.

Thank you for your continued support and best wishes.

The Earthpulse Team http://www.earthpulse.com

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Date: Fri, 30-Mar-2001 01:28:10 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: RE: Ultra Simple Charge Detector

John Vincent wrote: > An ultra simple dual polarity charge detector design. > Will detect both positive and negative charged states and give > a visual LED indication of the presence and direction of charge > movement (toward or away from the pickup antenna) > Circuit can be assembled by a novice for approx $20 > > http://www.icom.ca/~mccoy/#charge > > JV

Some readings taken in my home with this device yielded some very interesting results. There appears to be a very large amount of positive charge through-out the entire home at all times, even with the power mains shut off. Areas of high negative charge appear at specific areas of adjoining walls. As far as I'm concerned, the presence of so much electric charge in my environment explains a lot of things for me.

JV

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Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:42:32 EST From: SMARTNEWS@aol.com Subject: re: preschool children can be reliable witnesses

Dear List,

Please find info on the article below.

Sincerely, Neil

Credibility and further psychological problems of young children as witnesses in criminal justice procedures: A case study [article in German] Niebergall G, Sporer SL, Warnke A Z Kinder Jugendpsychiatr 1995 Mar 23:1 44-55

Abstract A pair of 3 1/2-year-old twins who had possibly witnessed their mother's murder were examined by a child psychiatrist and a child psychologist as part of a judicial inquiry. The procedure developed specially for this purpose, the actual course of the investigation and the evaluation of the findings with regard to psychological aspects of evidence are discussed. The theoretical part of the study deals with the current state of knowledge and the problems relating to evidence given by young children as witnesses. The main emphasis is on general and specific credibility, identification of people associated with the crime, suggestibility and probabilities related to guessing, perceptual and memory performance, and minimization of emotional sequelae in children who are witnesses to violent crimes. The authors conclude that preschool children can be reliable witnesses in preliminary hearings and court proceedings.

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Date: Fri, 30-Mar-2001 05:48:41 GMT From: James Graf <jhgraf2@earthlink.net> Cc: jhgraf_@excite.com

Subject: RE: Shocker

Dear Ed:

If you want a REAL shocker, I invite you to read how the Netherlands treated an American victim of mental torture who sought political asylum there (see "Hard Realities" on my web site at http://www.angelfire.com/nj/jhgraf/hardreal.html ). In it, you will learn that the Dutch Government allowed American agents to use little girls (mind control victims) as prostitutes at Bethanië Refugee Camp in January, 1993. You will also realize that the Dutch Government has conspired with others to cover up the scandal all these years.

Whether or not you choose to read "Hard Realities," I invite you to "Please Make the UN Do Its Job" http://www.angelfire.com/nj/jhgraf/makeun.html and process my complaints against the Dutch and Danish Governments. If enough persons do so, my life and the lives of many others might yet be saved.

James Henry Graf Unacknowledged Prisoner of Conscience ("confined to a village") and "non-person" trapped in "Virtual America," "A Nation In Denial." James Henry Graf's Angelfire Home: http://www.angelfire.com/nj/jhgraf JH Graf's Human Rights Forum (Delphi): http://www.delphi.com/jhgraf/start

Ed wrote: > The Netherlands (where I live) is the leader in many evils. Saturday 4 > homosexual couples will be legally married ..... Holland is the first > country in the world where this will be possible. It makes one sick to > the > stomach and cry God have mercy on us .... > > Ed >

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Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:21:45 -0800 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> Subject: RE: [MC] Shocker

Religious and moral discussions are off-topic on this list. Attempts to influence moral viewpoints (such as statements by gay rights activists and your own counter statements) are propaganda, not mind control, as defined on this list. If you wish to post religious and moral propaganda, please do so on some other list or newsgroup.

I am removing this off-topic thread from the list archives.

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Date: Fri, 30-Mar-2001 08:30:36 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: Conductive Garments

Does anyone have any lines on conductive garments?

JV

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Date: Fri, 30-Mar-2001 09:25:25 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: RE: Ultra Simple Charge Detector

John Vincent wrote: > > John Vincent wrote: > > An ultra simple dual polarity charge detector design. > > Will detect both positive and negative charged states and give > > a visual LED indication of the presence and direction of charge > > movement (toward or away from the pickup antenna) > > Circuit can be assembled by a novice for approx $20 > > > > http://www.icom.ca/~mccoy/#charge > > > > JV > > Some readings taken in my home with this device yielded some > very interesting results. There appears to be a very large amount of > positive charge through-out the entire home at all times, even with the > power mains shut off. Areas of high negative charge appear at specific > areas of adjoining walls. As far as I'm concerned, the presence of so > much electric charge in my environment explains a lot of things for me. > > JV

This instument has allowed me to determine with a fair amount of certainty that my position within my home is automatically determined and then a high level of electric charge is continually directed to that location. The locating and charging process generally takes no more than half a minute or so to complete while moving from one area of the house to another. This would indicate to me that the harassment gear incorporates some degree of automation. The high level electric charging of the body then facilitates all manner of effects to be implemented, probably including the V2S that many people report as a symptom. Aches, pains, headaches, skin irritations, muscle spasms and twitches, tooth pain, inner ear pain, dizzyness, light headedness, loss of balance, and gastro-intestinal problems etc etc are probably the result of very high levels of electification to different areas the body. A very high level of positive charge is maintained through-out the dwelling with the actual effects being induced by the negativly charged tracking emmitter. No matter where you go, eventually you are caught between two oppositly charged high voltage sources and current will flow through the body thus producing the effects. In the case that the body is located in an area that is sufficiently grounded then, the two emmitter method is not needed, just one is required in this case because currect will always flow through the body to ground It would appear to me that many TI's are being slowly electrocuted. This type of equipment is usully operating within fairly close proximity to a persons location which would imply multiple emitters in multiple locations in order to maintain high levels of continuous effect.

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[MC] national exposure By thefbiisthecatcherintherye@hotmail.com

Sirhan Psychotically (not "Hypnotically") Programmed By thefbiisthecatcherintherye@hotmail.com

please disregard any previous e-mail list requests By superduperduper@webtv.net

RE: national exposure By frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca

Fw: national exposure By rodthistle@bigpond.com

RE: Fw: national exposure By frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca

Street Theatre By frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca

Brain-damaging Mind Control Coming Our Way By nicola@ak.planet.gen.nz

I do not live in La Grande Oregon anymore By cheerful144@yahoo.com

Re: Sirhan Psychotically (not "Hypnotically") Programmed By xfiles@uswest.net

RE: Brain-damaging Mind Control Coming Our Way By west@sonic.net

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Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:46:51 -0000 From: "Catcher of The Catcher in the Rye" <thefbiisthecatcherintherye@hotmail.com> Subject: [MC] national exposure

Why don't you ask him if he knows where you can get a device like that or at least its circuits & schematics. Brian Kohn has stated that the microwave-audio effect can also be observed with cheap, easy to contruct laboratory equipment (or something to that effect) Maybe the radio talk show host can build such a device and demonstrate it to his audience, then post its circuits ONLINE.

More info :

http://www.raven1.net/v2s-kohn.htm

http://www.raven1.net/v2ssp.gif

http://www.raven1.net/frey.htm

http://www.raven1.net/mwhearth.htm

--------------------------- Hi everyone,

I believe I have found an avenue for credible national exposure of MC here in Australia.

This morning I was listening to a nationally broadcast talkback radio program, hosted by Dr Karl Kruszelnicki. Dr Karl is a heavily accredited, well respected scientist/author. He is the current Julius Sumner Miller Fellow at the Uni of Sydney. One of his outstanding attributes is having designed and built a machine to pick up electrical signals from the human retina.

A woman rang in and explained that she had purchased a device that promised to remove insects and pests from the house by emitting pulses of EMR. Using her own words "the device worked". The device also apparently worked on her and her young boy. Her symptoms were intense headaches and pain in her ears. She first realised the problem when her youngest boy began to uncontrollably twitch. At first she thought it was some kind of nervous condition he was growing through and the family laughed it off. He apparently was having a fit of the twitches when she placed her hand on top of his head and felt intense heat being emitted from his head. He had a temperature of 40C. Normal is 36.8C. She rushed him to hospital where on arrival the child was completely limp. He has since made a full recovery. After she had turned off the device, magically her symptoms and her childs symptoms disappeared. Her question to Dr Karl was "what did he know of the effects of EMR on the body and specifically to her unborn child?"

Dr Karl immediately stated it depends on the type of EMR being emitted and then as an example stated "that microwaves at a particular frequency coupled with audio can be heard inside the persons head". I'M EXCITED. This is a real opportunity to pose some questions to Dr Karl re his knowledge of this phenomena while speaking to 300,000 plus audience.

The question is "what questions?" I WILL NOT be posing as a victim of MC as this could be detrimental to the cause, rather a concerned citizen looking at the bigger picture of mind control. I need some information regarding the "supposed use" of the technology during the Gulf War as a leading question, (super advanced development of the technology), then leading into shielding (how would I prevent this happening to me), then onto raven (stating I have found a very interesting site highlighting the use and effects of such technologies).

I would appreciate some information re the Gulf and any feedback regarding my intended position. The program airs every Thursday 11am- 12noon EST (Australia). TripleJ.

Regards, Rodney

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Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:17:55 -0000 From: "Catcher of The Catcher in the Rye" <thefbiisthecatcherintherye@hotmail.com> Subject: Sirhan Psychotically (not "Hypnotically") Programmed

NEW RESPONSE IN MIDDLE, AFTER 2nd paragraph

------------- The autopsy of Robert F. Kennedy PROVES that Sirhan didn't do it. RFK was shot FROM BEHIND. Sirhan was standing IN FRONT of RFK. The bullets that killed RFK left burn marks on his clothing, which means the gun that killed him was about an inch from his body. All witnesses agree that Sirhan never got closer than about a yard to RFK. After the first or second shot a bypasser grabbed Sirhan's arm and diverted it AWAY from RFK. RFK was hit by three bullets. And the bullets that killed RFK travelled upwards and ended up stuck in the ceiling tiles which the LAPD removed and destroyed. Sirhan sirhan on the other hand, held his hand and arm at a straight angle. CONCLUSION : Sirhan Sirhan hallucinated that RFK must be "assassinated assassinated assassinated assassinated", fired in RFK's direction and injured a number of people who all recovered. BUT THE AUTOPSY PROVES THAT SIRHAN SIRHAN DID NOT KILL ROBERT F. KENNEDY

Keep in mind that the term "HYPNOSIS" is probably a codeword for an artificially induced MODEL PSYCHOSIS. When making the point that someone who fired a gun is innocent it is very important to get the weird abberations of science straight. In other words, if the same techniques were to be applied to, for example, ABC Nightline reporter Ted Koppel, he too would not be able to avoid hallucinating that "RFK must be assassinated assassinated assassinated assassinated" and take actions in this direction. And I can't see Ted Koppel ever being hypnotized. But I could very easily see him become an unwitting, involuntary victim of a secretly and covertly induced Model psychosis, and once in its grip, being cleverly manipulated with a sophisticated variety of hi-tech trickery and psychological gimmicks in a way he then would have no longer a defense against.

NEW RESPONSE :

The point I want to add is that the Model psychosis would a) make its subject lose all contact with reality so that he no longer realizes the significance of what he is writing into his notebook or chanting

b) allow for the subject to be tricked into PSYCHING HIMSELF UP while an artificially induced model psychosis grows within him which eventually pushes him over the edge and makes him "do it" (Mark Chapman's statement that right before the assassination he heard a voice inside his head that said "do it, do it, do it, do it" certainly comes to mind here)

----------------------------------------- New York Times: March 23, 2001 National News Briefs; Sirhan Sirhan Is Denied Parole for the 11th Time

AP) Sirhan Sirhan, the convicted assassin of Senator Robert F. Kennedy, was denied parole today, and his lawyer set forth the theory that Mr. Sirhan had been "hypnotically programmed" to kill Kennedy.

After an hourlong hearing at Corcoran State Prison, the three-member parole panel found Mr. Sirhan, 57, unsuitable for release because he refused to take responsibility.

Mr. Sirhan's lawyer, Lawrence Teeter, says his client was programmed to kill Kennedy on June 5, 1968, by government agents who wanted to prolong the Vietnam War.

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Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 06:33:51 -0600 (CST) From: superduperduper@webtv.net (Maximus Theisen) Subject: please disregard any previous e-mail list requests

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Date: Fri, 30-Mar-2001 21:08:04 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: RE: national exposure

Rodney wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I believe I have found an avenue for credible national exposure of MC > here in Australia. >

> Dr Karl immediately stated it depends on the type of EMR being emitted > and then as an example stated "that microwaves at a particular frequency > coupled with audio can be heard inside the persons head". I'M EXCITED. > This is a real opportunity to pose some questions to Dr Karl re his > knowledge of this phenomena while speaking to 300,000 plus audience. > > The question is "what questions?"

------ Some more questions for the good Doctor to ponder ------

Subject: Involuntary Human Experimentation with Non-Ionizing Radiation - - Dear Sir or Madam: - - As a reference, as far back as 1994 U.S. Senator John Glenn's publicly-expressed outrage that his government has (once again) been found to be engaging in brutal forms of involuntary human experimentation, and his demand, in effect, that any and all forms of this type of experimentation be exposed was heartening. - A large and growing number of people hoped that the U.S. Senator's expressed outrage was sincere, and that any investigations are not simply a means of diverting attention from complaints centering on the Government's long-term role in involuntary human experiments with non-ionizing forms of radiation. - For some time now, the U.S. Departments of Defense, Energy and Justice have openly admitted that directed-energy weapons systems do indeed exist, complaints of experimentation with these systems can no longer be ignored. It would seem that this technology has now enjoyed a large scale horizontal and vertical Multi-National proliferation. - This Letter is focused on complaints concerning experiments with non- ionizing, so-called "non-lethal," directed-energy weapons, surveillance and psychotronic systems. In bringing this to your attention, we are forwarding the interests, currently, of many citizens, who are the subjects of both vicious forms of overt harassment and concurrent directed-energy harassment. - Documents detailing Microwave, Microwave "direct-to-skull", Silent Sound, Ultra-Wide-Band "through-the-wall" Technologies, High-Powered Acoustic (using both ultrasound and infrasound frequency ranges), Acoustic Heterodyning Systems, Psycho-Acoustic Harassment and Mind-Control Experimentation are widely available. In addition, articulate, lucid and detailed testimonials from many hundreds of known victims are also available.

People who have been and/or continue to be, routinely and systematically victimized by these Technologies. It can be demonstrated that some of these Technologies are now poised to make offerings into Consumer Electronics Markets as well as legitimate uses in the Medical field, yet denial continues.

References to Commercial Web Sites and numerous Patents and applications for Intellectual Property protection are available on request. One such site offers plans for the construction of a Microwave "direct-to-skull" Mind Control and Harassment unit with an operational range of 1 Kilometer. In short they have been de-Classified, were never Classified and some have been based on well known Scientific principles and Patents available since the 1960's. - As a matter of interest, "sales hype" is provided to the media by National Defense mentalities, making claims as to the non-lethal nature of these Technologies. Furthering the dilemma, these same interests will provide a stunning reversal of these claims by denying their existence out right. Many of these claims would appear to be made by those who share a vested, if not economic interest in the proliferation of these "Products". - They are not gentle systems, as the Government would like the public to believe and neither are they limited to the Government. One must keep in mind that many of these devices were originally developed for battle field, crowd control and interrogation scenarios.

Now they would seem to have been made readily available as an addition to your neighbours tool box, right next to the cordless drill. - - Some pressing questions are as follows: - - 1. By what formal means are Canadian Government agencies prevented from testing "non-lethal", directed-energy weapons, surveillance and psychotronics systems on Canadian citizens under involuntary circumstances? - 2. By what formal means are Government Contractors and Sub-Contractors prevented from testing "non-lethal", directed-energy weapons, surveillance and psychotronics systems on Canadian Citizens under involuntary circumstances? - 3. By what formal means are non-Government Agencies, Private Corporations, Private Groups, Educational Institutions, Organized Crime or even well positioned individuals prevented from using "non-lethal", directed-energy devices, surveillance and psychotronics systems on Canadian Citizens under involuntary circumstances? - 4. Why do Canadian Policies fail to prohibit and protect individuals or groups from involuntary human experimentation with non-ionizing forms of radiation? - 5. How many Members of Parliament and of the Administration have invested in firms which are engaged in the development and testing of directed-energy systems? - 6. Why are Firms from the U.S. and other Countries engaged in the business of promoting "non-lethal" systems as tools for Law Enforcement in Canada, many of them being used under the Community Policing initiative. - 7. Why are these "non-lethal" systems being kept classified, while at the same time enjoying large scale proliferation at the greater Community level? - 8. How can initiatives and operations that are being conducted at the greater Community level be considered Classified? - 9. Where is the test data on the efficacy of these directed-energy weapons, surveillance and psychotronic systems being obtained, and who in the Canadian Government specifically, is overseeing these experiments? - 10. Why are complaints by Canadian Citizens dealing with directed-energy

harassment and Mind-Control experimentation being ignored? During the last several years, lengthy and highly detailed Scientific reports and Studies have been presented to various Western European Governments in an attempt to address the legitimate concerns surrounding the proliferation of these "non-lethal" Technologies. - 11. Why are there no apparent Laws what-so-ever which Govern the use of these directed-energy-weapons, surveillance and psychotronic systems in spite of indications of the potential for large scale and indiscriminant abuse. - In studying these lengthy and highly detailed Scientific reports sponsored by Western European Governments it becomes clear that North American sources are named as being a large supplier of these Technologies. No studies are available in Canada or elsewhere in North America, which would address legitimate concerns surrounding the proliferation of these "non-lethal" Technologies. The only such study to date is one done by the U.S. F.C.C., which attempts to address intrusions into, established radio frequencies by Ultra-Wide-Band equipment, and health concerns regarding cellular phones and micro-wave-hearing (the FCC's terms). No mention is made of privacy issues regarding the "through-the-wall" imaging capability of these Technologies even though the equipment would appear to be readily available to any well positioned individuals. - In conclusion, this is a problem which the Government of Canada can ill afford to ignore. There are many angry people in this country who have been violated by these experiments and equipment. It may do well to remind ourselves that not all experimentees have been kept effectively isolated.

A number of experimentees recognize the rapidly burgeoning numbers of new experimentees. Many have also become well seasoned to the mental illness ploy incorporated as a cover-up for this experimentation. At present they must use their own resources and efforts to guide and aid newly targeted individuals in the right direction, simply because of the lack of any direction provided by this Countries Legislators . We can only hope that those who we have elected to lead us will chose to examine the wider implications of these Technologies and address legitimate concerns in a forthright and timely manner. There is also an ever growing need to present the matter to some level of open public inquiry and scrutiny.

JV

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Date: Fri, 30-Mar-2001 22:55:13 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: RE: Fw: national exposure

Rodney wrote: > > These are very relevant questions pertaining to MC, but with all due > respect, I do not believe that this is the right tact to introduce > people to MC. > I do not want to put the cart before the horse. > The first objective is to get people to undoubtedly beleieve that this > type of technology exists. People need to actively investigate and research > by looking at sites such as Raven and they will only do this if their > interest is really tweaked. So, how best do do this?

By the end of this year or the beginning of next year, technology will be made available to the Commercial and Consumer markets that is capable of discretly transmitting audio over a distance, and do so to only one person in a group of people. Below are 2 links to such technologies, this tech is line-of site (which is no big deal, lots can be done with line-of-site operation), does not use microwaves, and is far more difficult to detect. Additionally, other things can be done with such tech besides V2S, in a post some months ago, I out-lined a scheme by which some real nasty vandalism could be perpetrated using an acoustic heterodyne or similar device. This scheme could be implemented repeatedly on the same target over and over as many times as you wish from either a fixed or mobile installation and would have a very low probabilty of detection. The concerned Emails I received from the group moderator and others, who's concerns were that I might be giving some people bad ideas high-lighted the viability of such a scheme.

http://www.icom.ca/~mccoy/#atc

http://www.icom.ca/~mccoy/#spotlight

JV

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Date: Fri, 30-Mar-2001 23:25:45 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: Street Theatre

For anyone experiencing street theatre or vehicle road harassment and following, I would recommend looking into various initiatives organized by Law Enforcement in your area. In my area the initiative is named "Citizens on Phone Patrol" and has been in operation for at least 4 years now.

JV

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Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:31:21 -0800 (PST) From: Flora Gedenberg <cheerful144@yahoo.com> Subject: I do not live in La Grande Oregon anymore

But when I did live there, I saw many mentally retarded plus Atheletes "zombie fied". It's old had to me.

But nobody but someone on this list may I don't have a clue. They would ride by my house on bikes, and the atheltes would be running just like they were in training but they didn't see or hear me at all, they were in a trance like state.

La Grande, Oregon believe it or not is very bad for this kind of thing going on. Mental health is invovled in it also.

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Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:56:36 -0700 From: chuck <xfiles@uswest.net> CC: mc@topica.com Subject: Re: [MC] Sirhan Psychotically (not "Hypnotically") Programmed

> > New York Times: March 23, 2001 > National News Briefs; Sirhan Sirhan Is Denied Parole for the 11th > Time > > AP) Sirhan Sirhan, the convicted assassin of Senator Robert F. > Kennedy, was denied parole today, and his lawyer set forth the theory that > Mr. Sirhan had been "hypnotically programmed" to kill Kennedy. > > After an hourlong hearing at Corcoran State Prison, the three-member > parole panel found Mr. Sirhan, 57, unsuitable for release because he > refused to take responsibility. > > Mr. Sirhan's lawyer, Lawrence Teeter, says his client was programmed > to kill Kennedy on June 5, 1968, by government agents who wanted to > prolong the Vietnam War. >

The Rockefeller Family was desperate for the Natural resources of Vietnam. Uniroyal needed the rubber plantations for tire production for GM. Mobil Oil needed the off shore oil reserves. They also were desperate for the Chromium deposits and the Aluminum and Uranium deposit were also needed for the expansion of their corporate empire. Vietnam was the pearl of the Orient and was filthy rich in natural resources and the Rockefellers were not willing ot pay one cent for what they could take using the CIA and the American armed services.

Not only was JFK and Robert Kennedy killed over this but many 1,000's of others were also killed or disabled as punishment for trying to stop the war. JFK had vowed to destroy the CIA and was about to pull out the troops that Eisenhower had put into Vietnam as advisors which were the first step in the take over of Vietnam. Chuck

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Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 01:47:46 -0800 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> Cc: "Ivan Fraser" <ivanfraser@cableinet.co.uk>, <pro_freedom_uk@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [MC] Brain-damaging Mind Control Coming Our Way

Regarding http://www.rense.com/general9/xombie.htm , The TETRA System & The Zombification Of Britain's Police:

No evidence is presented for assertions of duplication of "CIA research in optimal mind-control technology" or "psychotron resonance" (whatever that means) or the sources of the comments about manic behaviour, disruption of higher brain function, "zombification," enhanced suggestibility, and emotional and behavioural modification. However, according to Dr. Gerard Hyland, a biophysicist at the University of Warwick (http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/tech/Hyland1.htm ):

"TETRA (Trans European/or Terrestrial Enhanced Trunked Radio Access), which operates at somewhat higher powers than does GSM, and over a much wider range of microwave carrier frequencies. Most disturbing, however, is the fact that the basic frame repetition rate is here 17.6Hz. For this frequency (which lies in the range of beta brain-wave activity) is close both to that at which a flashing visible light can provoke seizures in people with photosensitive epilepsy [8], and to the modulation frequency at which there is a maximum in the expression of calcium ions from brain cells when they are irradiated with pulsed, low intensity electromagnetic radiation over a wide range of carrier frequencies [9]. Furthermore, in consequence of the lower frequency band assigned to the emergency services (380MHz - 400MHz), the penetration of the radiation is here much greater than it is with GSM, facilitating its deeper access into the brain directly through the skull."

I'm copying Ivan Fraser on this message. Ivan: could you please forward this to Tim Rifat and ask him to kindly provide scientific references to support the above statements?

Also see MIND CONTROL IN THE UK, http://www.profreedom.free4all.co.uk/mc_uk.html by Tim Rifat. ------------------------------ __________________________________ Post to: mc@topica.com . Unsubscribe to: mc-unsubscribe@topica.com . List info: www.topica.com/lists/mc/

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aches news 29-30 March 2001 By west@sonic.net

[MC] national exposure By thefbiisthecatcherintherye@hotmail.com

re: ass't urls on drug research, mc, human id, mormons and child abuse By smartnews@aol.com

Initiation of Action By eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com

Hierarchy of Responses By eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com

Laws of Effect By eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com

Consumertronics By frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca

Re:Iniciation of Action By eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com

Re:Laws of Effect (ending-copy?) By eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com

Re: Consumertronics By m.a.norman@ntlworld.com

RE: Consumertronics By frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca

RE: Consumertronics By frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca

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Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 03:07:13 -0800 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> Subject: aches news 29-30 March 2001

Forwarded from Lynne Moss-Sharman [lsharman@microage-tb.com]

Note especially the review of Secret Weapons:

* Review of "Secret Weapons" Uri Dowbenko http://www.steamshovelpress.com/offlineillumination.html * Atlanta: 41 children taken from child beating cult * Winnipeg: porno Shriners * James Kopp arrested in France (abortion clinic sniper) * Website wins right to name abortion doctors * Andrew Leyshon-Hughes must remain in psychiatric hospital * Salem stabbing, McNulty * Wm Shrubsall USA citizen dangerous offender hearing Halifax * Major Hells Angels bust in Quebec and Ontario * BC hospital kept man's brain

************ ATLANTA: 41 CHILDREN TAKEN FROM CHILD BEATING CULT

Judge removes children from Atlanta church where pastor ordered beatings 29 March 2001

ATLANTA (AP) - A judge put 41 children in foster care for a year Wednesday after their parents refused to stop whipping them in church-sponsored beating sessions and forcing teenage girls to marry. "I hate to see these children jeopardized by what I consider to be a cult," Juvenile Court Judge Sanford Jones said. The decision followed a two-day hearing into practices at the House of Prayer, led by the Rev. Arthur Allen Jr.

The judge was told about a seven-year-old left with welts and bruises and a 10-year-old with open wounds on his belly and side. A former church member also testified that she was forced to marry at 15 and was beaten when she refused to have sex with her 23-year-old husband.

Allen has said the beatings are simple discipline. "The Bible says that if you spare the rod you're going to spoil the child," he said last week. "I have the Scriptures that give me the right to do it." The all-black, 130-member nondenominational church was put in the spotlight after children complained they were hit with sticks, switches and belts in front of the congregation, sometimes by their parents, sometimes by other church members. Forty-one of the children in the congregation, ranging in age from a few months old to 17, were taken from the parents over the past two weeks. And police have charged Allen, 68, and six church members with inflicting or allowing excessive beatings of the two boys.

On Wednesday, the judge said the youngsters' parents - four couples and a single father - could have their children back if they agreed to four conditions: No marriages for anyone under 16; no missing school after late-night church events; no physical discipline by anyone else; and no church beatings. "I'm not saying you can't whip your children, I'm just saying you can't leave marks like this on them," Jones said. The parents refused.

"I'm not going to let anyone tell me how long my children can stay in church," Sharon Duncan said. "It's my prerogative." Social workers said the boys were beaten at church for misbehaving in school. The seven-year-old said he was held in the air by three adults while his uncle whipped him with a switch as Allen stood by, giving instructions. "If the white society doesn't want to whip their children, that's their business," said Allen, who was sentenced to 30 days in jail in 1993 for ordering a woman to beat her daughter.

The preacher is also accused of arranging marriages for girls after they turn 14, telling them they have to get married so they do not become burdens to their families. Georgia prohibits marriage before 16, but the church conducts the ceremonies in Alabama.

The parents represented themselves at the hearing, saying the state had no right to interfere with their religious practices. They said no child is permanently injured and the bruises go away. After seeing pictures of a young boy's torso covered in bloody welts, the judge asked David Duncan, one of the parents facing charges, if he thought the beatings constitute abuse. "The only way I can answer that, sir, is that we're going to raise our children according to the Bible," he said.

"Well, the Good Lord isn't deciding whether you get your kids back here. I am," the judge replied. "The Bible also says God told Abraham to kill his son, but that's not acceptable in our society, do you understand me?"

March 30, 2001

Child Abuse at a Church Creates a Stir in Atlanta By DAVID FIRESTONE NY Times

ATLANTA, March 29 - After a 7- year-old boy complained to his teacher in February about welts on his back, Georgia child welfare authorities were surprised to discover that the beating had taken place not at his home but at services in his church, a tiny nondenominational congregation called the House of Prayer, northwest of downtown.

And the boy was not alone, a state investigation concluded. Welfare authorities said nearly 60 children had been seriously beaten by their parents and by church leaders, under the supervision of the Rev. Arthur Allen Jr., the pastor. Several children had open wounds, large bruises and welts, investigators said. Mr. Allen and four church leaders were charged with cruelty to children and released on bail. On Wednesday, in an Atlanta juvenile court, Chief Judge Sanford Jones reluctantly decided not to release 41 children of church families from foster care. Judge Jones said the children could go home if their parents agreed to spank them only with their hands, and by themselves at home, and not to allow girls younger than 16 to marry. The parents refused.

"We're going to raise our children according to the Bible," said one parent at the hearing, David Duncan. Judge Jones replied: "I regret that. I hate to see these children jeopardized by what I consider to be a cult."

In the three weeks since state officials began removing the children from their parents, the case has transfixed the city and illuminated the distinctions that juvenile authorities must make between acceptable corporal punishment and child abuse. D'Anna Liber, of the Division of Family and Children Services, said Georgia law allowed corporal punishment but not physical injury. "Parents have wide latitude in their method of punishment, and spanking is within their right," Ms. Liber said. "But if they lacerate the skin or leave marks or injure the child, that would cross the line into abuse."

Using an object to strike a child is often considered excessive, she said, particularly if the object leaves a mark. The department's investigators are encouraged to take pictures of injuries, she said, and to use common sense in judging them. A single red welt on a 3-year-old is much more serious than one on a 16-year-old, she said, and the location of the injury is also considered. In hearings this month, police investigators told juvenile-court judges that the beatings were standard practice at the church, performed by parents and other adults with belts and switches under the supervision of Mr. Allen. Police photographs showed three-inch-long welts on the children, and a 10-year- old boy had open wounds.

In his testimony at Wednesday's hearing, Mr. Allen told the judge that parents had an absolute right to discipline their children, and that he advised members of his congregation on how severe the beating should be, based on the infraction, the child's age and degree of remorse. "When they administer a whipping, if I think a child is being struck too many times for what they have done, I will come and intervene, and tell them I feel that that's enough," Mr. Allen said. "It depends on what they have done." Children who did not express remorse should be punished more severely, he said. All of the church members are black, and Mr. Allen, 68, said: "If the white society doesn't want to whip their children, that's their business. I'm not trying to make you black, so don't try to make me white."

Investigators also found that several 14- and 15-year-old girls had been ordered to marry after they became pregnant or began having sex. The weddings were often performed in Alabama, where girls may marry at 14. Mr. Allen confirmed the practice on Wednesday, saying it was better for young teenagers to be married than to become "whores." Officials said they were not sure whether the marriages were legal in Georgia, where people must be 16 to marry. "If they tell me I'm going out there anyway and having sex with different ones, I believe it's best for them to have sex with their husbands, and have babies by their husbands only," Mr. Allen said.

Mr. Allen has preached his fierce and literal interpretation of the Bible's teachings at the small church for 35 years, and members - there are currently about 130 - say they rely on his advice for many major decisions. In 1993 he was jailed for 30 days after ordering a 16-year-old girl whipped with belts, a beating that he acknowledged may have lasted half an hour. Tanyaneeka Barnett, 25, a former church member, testified yesterday that teenage girls who had sex were frequently whipped during church services, after removal of their skirts or dresses.

Mr. Allen angrily denied that sexual abuse had occurred. The church was simply trying to prevent the kind of social disorder that had led to school shootings and rampant teenage pregnancy, he said. "When the child is an adolescent, they are not able to think for themselves how to conduct themselves," he said. "So a parent has to be an authority. Someone with a more mature mind. You have to have rules."

*********** WINNIPEG: PORNO SHRINERS

Friday, March 30, 2001 What scandal? By ROSS ROMANIUK Winnipeg Sun

With the shame of a recent scandal weighing on their organization, hundreds of proud Winnipeg Shriners launched their annual circus yesterday keeping heads and fezzes high. And their grin-and-bear-it approach at Winnipeg Arena appeared to win over thousands of smiling faces. Despite early indications of a low debut crowd-count, Khartum Shrine carried on its business of motorcycling, clowning and staging acrobatics and animal acts as if nothing had come between the charity and those it serves. "I imagine that some people would give some thought to it," Khartum spokesman Gervin Greasley said of the uproar surrounding a recent raucous fund-raising dinner that saw female table-dancers and alleged sexual assault. The embarrassing aftermath of the Shrine Motor Patrol event last January has prompted a disbanding of the motor patrol.

*********** JAMES KOPP ARRESTED IN FRANCE; ABORTION CLINIC SNIPER

Vt. man arrested in '98 slaying of doctor By Glen Johnson, Boston Globe Staff, 3/30/2001

WASHINGTON - The international search for a Vermont man accused of killing a New York doctor who performed abortions ended yesterday when French police arrested James Charles Kopp, the FBI and Justice Department announced. Kopp, an antiabortion activist who had joined Boston native James J. ''Whitey'' Bulger on the FBI's Ten Most Wanted list, was unarmed when he was captured in the town of Dinan in northwest France. FBI Director Louis Freeh said Kopp was preparing to leave France. US authorities will seek his extradition to the United States for trial. Kopp, 46, of St. Albans, Vt., is charged with murder in the Oct. 23, 1998, slaying of Dr. Barnett Slepian of Amherst, N.Y. The 52-year-old obstetrician-gynecologist was killed with a single rifle shot as he stood in the kitchen of his suburban Buffalo home. At the time, he was heating soup while talking with his wife and one of his four sons after returning from synagogue.

''This was a particularly egregious and violent action,'' Freeh said in a news conference where he and Attorney General John Ashcroft announced the arrest. ''We are committed to bringing Mr. Kopp back to the United States to face these charges,'' Ashcroft added. Kopp faces federal charges of using a firearm in a crime of violence and violating the Freedom of Access to Clinical Entrances Act, which protects access to abortion clinics. He also faces state second-degree murder charges.

Officials said the firearms charge carries a possible maximum sentence of the death penalty, although prosecutors have not yet decided if they will seek that punishment. Later in the day, a Brooklyn couple was arrested on suspicion of helping Kopp evade arrest. According to police, Loretta Claire Marra, 37, and John Malvasi, 51, operated under aliases when they communicated with Kopp through a Yahoo e-mail account.

In the 1980s and 1990s, Kopp developed a reputation as a wandering antiabortion activist with the nickname ''Atomic Dog.'' In a 1998 Globe interview, his stepmother, Emaline Kopp of Irving, Texas, said he snapped after his fiancee had an abortion in 1982. ''He was upset because it was his child and he was not consulted,'' Emaline Kopp said. ''It just broke him. When he found out about that, it just flipped him out.''

Kopp was raised in California, one of five children of Charles Kopp, a lawyer, and his wife, Nancy, a registered nurse. An Eagle Scout as a teenager, he went to the University of California at Santa Cruz. There he met his fiancee, and the couple moved to Texas for graduate school. Kopp studied marine biology, his stepmother said.

After his fiancee's abortion, their relationship ended, and he converted from Lutheran to Roman Catholic. He volunteered to work with the antiabortion group Operation Rescue. He was arrested outside clinics across the country, from Pensacola, Fla., in 1986, to Atlanta, Houston, and Levittown, N.Y., in 1991.

On March 20, 1990, when observers believe Kopp had already left Operation Rescue for the more-militant Lambs of Christ, he was one of 12 people arrested during a protest outside the Vermont Women's Health Center in Burlington, court records show. Kopp became the subject of the Slepian investigation a month after the shooting. The FBI issued a warrant declaring him a ''material witness.'' His car had been spotted in Slepian's neighborhood in the weeks before the shooting. It was found abandoned at the Newark airport in December 1998, authorities said.

Investigators have said that a scope-equipped rifle found buried about one foot underground near the Slepian home represented a major breakthrough. Law enforcement sources have said that Kopp has been linked, through DNA testing, to a strand of hair found near where the sniper fired. An arrest warrant was issued in May 1999.

Freeh said Kopp, who had been on the most wanted list since June 1999, took numerous steps to avoid detection, including using public phones and anonymous e-mails. FBI agents in Buffalo said Kopp lived in Ireland for about a year, staying in hostels and doing clerical work, then left on March 12 as Irish police closed in.Authorities knew Kopp had been in France for the past several weeks, Freeh said, but ''our investigation determined he was about to leave France.'' The FBI director said his agency passed the information on to French authorities. They arrested Kopp in Dinan, a town in the Brittany region, after following him for several days.

Freeh said French authorities were conducting searches and interviews at the request of the United States. He also said said Kopp's extradition from France would be a long process. Canadian authorities also issued an arrest warrant for Kopp last year in the attempted murder of Dr. Hugh Short, a doctor who performed abortions who was shot at his home in Ancaster, Ontario, in 1995. Police also want to talk to Kopp about the shootings of a doctor in Vancouver in 1994 and another doctor in Winnipeg in 1997. Material from Reuters and the Associated Press was used in this report. This story ran on page A01 of the Boston Globe on 3/30/2001. © Copyright 2001 Globe Newspaper Company.

Friday, March 30, 2001 MD shooting suspect arrested Sought in U.S. and Canadian attacks, Kopp captured in France By MATTHEW FISHER, IN FRANCE, EUROPEAN BUREAU

PARIS -- Interpol has finally caught up with the key suspect in sniper attacks on three Canadian doctors who perform abortions, the slaying of a U.S. counterpart and the wounding of another American. James Charles Kopp, one of the most wanted fugitives in North America, was arrested in France yesterday as he left a post office with a package of cash. Kopp, a 46-year-old Vermont native nicknamed "Atomic Dog" in anti-abortion circles, is wanted in the U.S. in the 1998 shooting death of Dr. Barnett Slepian, of Amherst, N.Y.

Kopp is wanted in Canada in the 1995 attempted murder of Dr. Hugh Short, of Ancaster, and Dr. Jack Fainman, of Winnipeg. He is also the lead suspect in the 1994 attack on Dr. Garson Romalis of Vancouver, the first of five doctors targeted by a sniper around Remembrance Day, promoted by some anti-abortion activists as a time to remember unborn children. Romalis was shot in the leg while eating breakfast at home. A year later, Short was shot in Ontario. On Nov. 11, 1997, Fainman was shot in the shoulder at his Winnipeg home. Kopp has also been implicated in a similar shooting in Rochester, N.Y. French police were tight-lipped last night, but sources said wiretaps placed on telephones of radical anti-abortionists in the U.S. played a part in Kopp's arrest. The wiretaps apparently revealed Kopp was recently in Ireland.

$300 IN PACKAGE FBI agent Joel Mercer said Kopp was arrested outside a post office in the northwestern town of Dinan, where he had gone to pick up a package from New York containing $300. He had arrived from Ireland less than three weeks earlier. Two people who allegedly assisted Kopp were also arrested. They were identified as Loretta Marra, 37, and Dennis Malvasi, 51, of New York City. In 1987 Malvasi pleaded guilty to dynamiting one clinic and planting a bomb, later defused, at another. Marra and Malvasi were ordered held without bail on charges of conspiring to harbour a felon. A U.S. federal complaint alleges they rented an apartment under an alias "as a safe house." One of the charges faced by Kopp carries a potential death penalty. He also faces state charges, including murder.

Slepian, 52, had just returned from synagogue and was heating soup in his home in October 1998 when he was killed by a rifle shot through a window. Kopp, who used at least 28 aliases, became the subject of an international manhunt a month later. He had been arrested in more than two dozen places in the United States and Italy for protesting abortion. He was last seen Nov. 3, 1998, the day before authorities issued a warrant in the Slepian shooting. A month later, Kopp's car was found abandoned at the Newark, N.J., airport. Authorities have said it was seen in Slepian's neighbourhood in the weeks before the shooting. Police sources have also said Kopp has been linked, through DNA testing, to a strand of hair found near where the sniper fired. A rifle found buried near the Slepian home provided what police called a major breakthrough. IN IRELAND Kopp had been in Ireland for about a year, living in hostels and doing clerical work, FBI agents in Buffalo said. He left the country March 12 as Irish police were closing in. "It was getting a little warm in Ireland," said Hardrich Crawford, the FBI's agent in charge.

In Washington, FBI Director Louis Freeh said Kopp had tried to elude capture by using public telephones and anonymous e-mails. "Going back several weeks we had some very strong leads," Freeh said when asked how long the FBI knew Kopp was in France. "Our investigation determined that he was about to leave France. Had he left, it would have further complicated (the investigation)." He said Kopp's extradition from France would be a long process. Winnipeg police Insp. Keith McCaskill said he hoped Canadian authorities would begin the extradition process so that Kopp could be tried in Canada. "The extradition process will hopefully be sooner than later but certainly we have to leave it for the legal minds to get this individual back," McCaskill said.

But an Ontario Provincial Police officer said it was unclear whether Kopp would ever be brought to Canada to face Canadian charges. "Our Crown attorneys have a challenge ahead," Insp. Dennis McGillis said at a news conference in Buffalo yesterday at which delighted police from both sides of the border congratulated themselves on the arrest. Kopp must be extradited from France before the U.S. authorities can begin their prosecution. McGillis said he would be satisfied if, upon conviction, Kopp received justice in the U.S. "If he's incarcerated (in the U.S.) for life, then it's as good as we could have done in Canada," McGillis said.

Friday, March 30, 2001 Shot doctor 'relieved' Hit by sniper in 1995 By JONATHAN KINGSTONE AND HEATHER MIDDLETON, TORONTO SUN

An Ancaster doctor allegedly shot by James Kopp more than five years ago breathed a sigh of relief yesterday at the capture of the accused anti-abortion sniper. "From the family's perspective, we're obviously relieved to hear of his arrest," Dr. Hugh Short's daughter said from their home near Hamilton. "We are very relieved." Short, then a 62-year-old obstetrician and gynecologist at Hamilton's Henderson General Hospital, had his right elbow shattered by a bullet as he and his wife sat in their home Nov. 10, 1995.

Short's daughter, who wouldn't give her name, said her family is "very appreciative" of the work done by Hamilton police and the RCMP, part of the Canada-U.S. task force tracking Kopp. Hamilton Deputy Chief Bruce Elwood said his officers "feel very good about it. 'SPREAD FEAR' "It was a very frustrating investigation -- especially in the early years -- with the very close-knit underground that's involved in the violent anti-abortion organizations." Kopp's arrest was hailed by Henry Morgentaler, perhaps Canada's best-known abortion doctor. "He was a menace to all of us abortion providers," Morgentaler alleged. "The fear and the anxiety might be lifted to a great extent (and) I think we will be able to breathe easier."

Morgentaler claimed the sniper "spread fear" by allegedly planning attacks to fall on or around Nov. 11. "You couldn't really know if you were safe or not, and all the years that he hadn't been caught this has been hanging over us and our families." Mary Ellen Douglas, of the National Organizer with Campaign Life Coalition, said Kopp deserves a fair trial but added her organization does not condone his alleged actions. "We're a pro-life organization. We don't want anyone killed for any reason, including the abortionists."

Friday, March 30, 2001 MD shooting victim relieved with arrest By GREG DI CRESCE Winnipeg Sun

Winnipeg abortion doctor Jack Fainman says he is "delighted" that James Kopp has been arrested. The media-shy 69-year-old doctor told The Sun yesterday: "I'm delighted that (Kopp) has been arrested." But the retired obstetricion-gynecologist quickly added that "I know (Kopp) was a suspect in other shootings and that doesn't mean he was involved in mine." Fainman has stayed out of the media spotlight since the shooting and normally refuses interviews. He learned of the arrest of Kopp from a Sun reporter and was anxious to learn more. Police talked to him later yesterday. He was shot in his right shoulder while watching TV in his home in an upper middle-class neighbourhood in St. Vital at 8:50 p.m. on Nov. 11, 1997. His wife, Fagie, who was in another room when the bullet felled her husband, called 911.

Neighbours told police they heard nothing unusual that night. Police did find a set of tracks in the snow running some 500 metres along a dike behind the Fainman home on Victoria Crescent. Investigators took casts of the footprints. Investigators thought the sniper may have pitched his weapon into the Red River, but police dive teams were unable to find anything. Fainman was taken to hospital the night he was shot and was treated and released shortly afterwards. He told The Sun yesterday his shoulder is about "90%" back to normal.

Friday, March 30, 2001 City doctors breathe easy LOCAL CLINIC PLEASED By CAMERON MAXWELL, CALGARY SUN

Local abortion doctors are breathing a sigh of relief after authorities arrested a man in connection with a string of abortion-doctor shootings. James Charles Kopp was charged in connection with the 1995 shooting of a Canadian doctor from Ancaster, Ont., and is also suspected of killing Barnett Slepian, a U.S. abortion physician. "We're pretty pleased that (an arrest) has finally happened -- we were always confident the authorities would catch him," said Celia Posyniak, executive director of the Kensington Clinic, a Calgary facility where abortions are performed. Posyniak said doctors at the clinic and throughout North America had been on alert prior to Kopp's arrest. "Anyone in North America that has been performing abortions over the last few years has been very vigilant knowing this man, and others, are out there." Calgary's abortion conflict has been relatively violence-free, but a 1996 protest at the Kensington Clinic led to fines.

Friday, March 30, 2001 Significant dates in the so-called Remembrance Day shootings: By CP Nov. 8, 1994: Dr. Garson Romalis is shot in the leg with a high-powered rifle while eating breakfast at home in Vancouver. December 1994: B.C. Medical Association offers a $100,000-reward for information about the Romalis shooting. The reward goes unclaimed. September 1995: In response to the Romalis shooting, the B.C. legislature passes the Access to Abortion Services Act to create 50-metre "buffer zones" around abortion clinics. Nov. 10, 1995: Dr. Hugh Short is hit in the elbow by a bullet from a high-powered rifle while watching TV at home near Hamilton. Nov. 11, 1997: Dr. Jack Fainman is shot in the right shoulder at his home in Winnipeg. Nov. 18, 1997: A national police task force is established in Canada to investigate the Romalis, Short and Fainman shootings. The task force says a doctor wounded slightly in upstate New York on Oct. 28, 1997, may have been the target of the same shooter. Oct. 23, 1998: Dr. Barnett Slepian, 51, is killed by a single shot from a high-powered rifle through the kitchen window of his Amherst, N.Y., home. Nov. 4 1998: U.S. police say anti-abortion activist James Kopp of St. Albans, Vt., is wanted for questioning in the Slepian shooting. Canada-wide immigration warrant for Kopp issued after police confirm he had entered Canada. May 6, 1999: U.S. law enforcement officials issue arrest warrant for Kopp. Canadian authorities confirm he is a lead suspect in the Canadian shootings. June 1999: Kopp is indicted by a grand jury in the Slepian slaying. January 2000: Canada-wide warrant issued for Kopp in connection with Short's shooting. The warrant charged Kopp with attempted murder. Oct. 17, 2000: A U.S. federal grand jury indicts Kopp. March 29, 2001: Kopp is arrested in France.

********** WEBSITE WINS RIGHT TO LIST NAMES OF ABORTION DOCTORS

Friday, March 30, 2001 Web site wins right to ID docs By AP

SAN FRANCISCO -- An anti-abortion Web site that listed the names and addresses of abortion doctors, branded them "baby butchers" and criminals is protected by the First Amendment, a U.S. federal court has ruled. A three-judge panel of the Court of Appeals has thrown out a $107-million verdict against the activists who compiled the information, saying they could be held liable only if the material authorized or directly threatened violence. The ruling came two years after a jury in Portland, Ore., ordered a dozen abortion foes to pay damages to Planned Parenthood and four doctors who sued under racketeering laws that makes it illegal to incite violence against abortion doctors. Planned Parenthood and the doctors were portrayed on Old West-style "wanted" posters passed out at rallies and on the "Nuremberg Files" Web site.

*********** ANDREW LEYSHON-HUGHES MUST REMAIN IN PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL

Friday, March 30, 2001 Eaton killer to stay in hospital Man who stabbed heiress still 'threat' By SARAH GREEN, TORONTO SUN

The killer of department store heiress Nancy Eaton is "a significant threat" to the public and must remain at a medium-security psychiatric hospital in Ottawa, the Ontario Review Board has ruled. In a decision released yesterday, however, the board widened privileges to Andrew Leyshon-Hughes, allowing him a one-week pass to visit his parents in B.C. as well as passes of up to seven days to travel to the family farm in Pickering. The 33-year-old, who was found not guilty by reason of insanity in the 1986 stabbing death of Eaton, is also allowed to travel without direct supervision within 150 km of the Royal Ottawa Hospital for work, school or recreation. Defence lawyer Marlys Edwardh didn't contest her client was a threat -- largely a legal term -- saying his integration into the community must be measured in "small steps."

If the board had found Leyshon-Hughes was not a threat, he would have been discharged completely. "The last thing you want to do is take someone like Andrew and put him in a situation where he's not comfortable," Edwardh said. Eaton, the great-great-granddaughter of store founder Timothy Eaton, was attacked in her Toronto home and stabbed 21 times by Leyshon-Hughes, who was a childhood friend. He then had sex with her dead body. He suffered brain damage at birth and had a long history of impulsive and aggressive behaviour, but psychiatrist Dr. John Bradford told the board Leyshon-Hughes was not a sexual deviant or a psychopath. Leyshon-Hughes was transferred to Ottawa from Kingston Psychiatric Hospital in 1999. His privileges allow him to attend college and work, but he has a curfew, must carry a phone and is randomly tested for drugs and alcohol. At its annual hearing last month to evaluate the patient, the board heard Leyshon-Hughes had an affair with a psychiatric nurse -- who was later fired -- and a female patient. The board found Leyshon-Hughes dealt with those problems appropriately, but it "must be mindful of the opinion of some clinicians ... that the real risk posed by the accused is to those who would be involved in a longterm relationship of any depth with him."

Friday, March 30, 2001 More privileges granted to killer By DONNA CASEY, Ottawa Sun

THE KILLER of department store heiress Nancy Eaton has been given permission to travel unescorted to Vancouver to visit his parents for Christmas. In what was described as a "modest increase" of the privileges already granted to the 33-year-old killer, the Ontario Review Board also gave Andrew Leyshon-Hughes the go-ahead for week-long trips to his parents' farm in Pickering. However, the five-member panel denied his request to live in an "approved" residence off hospital property. In its decision following a two-day hearing last month, the board agreed with the view held by the Royal Ottawa Hospital, the Crown and even the killer "that the evidence establishes that Mr. Leyshon-Hughes is a significant threat to the safety of the public." In 1985, Leyshon-Hughes stabbed the 23-year-old Eaton 21 times in a psychotic, drug-induced rage and then had sex with her body. He was found not guilty by reason of insanity. The board found Leyshon-Hughes still needs "the intensive supports" of hospital-based rehabilitation, adding the public needs to be protected with "careful supervision and monitoring."

"He's very pleased," said Marlys Edwardh of her client's reaction to his new freedoms. "He's very anxious to keep going to school and working in the community. "From my perspective, it is a real step forward and yet it's a cautious decision." Under the conditions for his travel to B.C., Leyshon-Hughes must be supervised by his parents during the maximum seven-day stay. The ROH must also notify local police when he travels. The board also granted Leyshon-Hughes' request to travel within a 150-km radius of the hospital, allowing him to ski at area hills. He previously had a 100-km travel radius, allowing him to take computer and business courses at Algonquin College. In 1999, Leyshon-Hughes moved to a medium-security unit at the ROH after spending 13 years in maximum-security psychiatric hospitals. BRAIN DAMAGE AT BIRTH Last year, ROH forensic psychiatrist Dr. John Bradford convinced a medical review board Leyshon-Hughes wasn't insane but his mental illness stemmed from brain damage suffered during a difficult birth. The board agreed with Bradford's view that it was a psychiatric nurse, not Leyshon-Hughes, who was at a fault for an illicit affair that led to the nurse's firing last May. However, the board said it needs to "be mindful" of other experts who've testified at other annual hearings that partners in a long-term relationship with Leyshon-Hughes pose "the real risk" for the killer.

********** SALEM STABBING, MCNULTY

In Salem, suspect held in stabbing attack on 3 By Mac Daniel, Globe Staff, 3/30/2001

SALEM - The young man in the hooded sweatshirt was ''acting kind of weird and scared about something'' after walking into a temporary employment agency in downtown Salem yesterday morning and asking to call a cab, according to Richard Mimms, who was cleaning up around the business. Then Mimms saw the blood, dripping from the man's hands, coating his clothes, streaking the counter as he leaned on it. As everyone gawked, the man went over to the glass door and tried furtively to wipe away a handprint before leaving.''He was trying to hide the blood,'' Mimms said. At the same time, Salem police received two frantic 911 calls from an apartment on Peabody Street, one from a 10-year-old girl screaming that she, her mother, and her baby sitter had been stabbed. It was an explosion of domestic violence, police said.

When police arrived, ''it was a bloody mess,'' said one evidence officer. The 10-year-old, Alexandra Correia, had been stabbed in the leg with a large knife. A baby sitter, Heather Colohan, a pregnant 20-year-old from Beverly, was stabbed several times in her back and chest, and the young girl's mother, Linda Correia, 28, lay near death on the floor with at least 15 stab wounds to her face, neck, and body. Police and prosecutors said the stabbings were the result of a domestic argument that turned violent. Correia had been a girlfriend of the alleged attacker.Down the street, motorists flagged down Patrolman Michael Levesque about the man on the corner of Harbor and Lafayette streets, covered in blood. Jerome G. McNulty, 23, of Lynn, offered no resistance when arrested and was ordered held without bail after pleading not guilty to armed assault with intent to murder, drug possession and distribution, and assault and battery with a dangerous weapon. Correia was in critical condition last night at North Shore Medical Center in Salem. Colohan and Alexandra Correia were both treated and released. Neighbors described ''a lot of noise and shouting'' from the third-floor apartment around 6:45 a.m., according to Essex District Attorney Kevin Burke. ''When he went up to the house, they started arguing and fighting,'' neighbor Gale Fernandez told WBZ radio. ''He was a nice kid. Then this happened.'' The neighbors said Correia works in a nursing home and had moved into the apartment last summer. She sometimes lived with her sister, who was not in the apartment during the attack, police said.

Forensic teams remained at the apartment late yesterday. Police said that knives - including a butcher knife and a blade that is a foot long - were taken from the apartment and would be tested to help find the weapons used. ''There may be multiple weapons,'' said Essex District Attorney spokesman Steve O'Connell.McNulty, who is unemployed, has no criminal record in Massachusetts and has had no restraining orders placed against him in the last three years in either Lynn or Salem, according to prosecutors and court officials. Relating their first meeting yesterday, McNulty's court-appointed attorney, Raymond Buso, reported to the court that his client ''was shivering from the cold, related he had not slept, stated he was scared, and when asked if he knew what he was charged with, stated: No.'' Outside the courtroom, McNulty's mother and fiancee said through tears that this is unlike him, that Linda Correia - an off-and-on girlfriend - had harassed and bothered him. They speculated that McNulty must have been there to end their 2 1/2-year relationship.

This story ran on page B1 of the Boston Globe on 3/30/2001. © Copyright 2001 Globe Newspaper Company.

*********** WM SHRUBSALL USA CITIZEN DANGEROUS OFFENDER HEARING HALIFAX

Thursday, March 29, 2001 Killer found religion Ex says Shrubsall took her to church to `save' her By RACHEL BOOMER -- The Halifax Daily News

After he was released from jail for killing his mother, born-again Christian William Shrubsall told his Catholic girlfriend she would go to hell because she was worshipping the wrong God. Shrubsall, then 21, told the woman God had forgiven him for beating his mother with a baseball bat. "(He said) he had talked to God and God had forgiven him for what he did," the woman, whose name is banned from publication, said in taped testimony played at Nova Scotia Supreme Court yesterday. "He took me to (his church) one time to save me," the woman said, laughing.

The Niagara Falls, N.Y., man also told her he could outsmart any psychiatrist, she said. "He always used to say, `They don't know what makes me tick. They don't understand me, and they can't help me, because I know more than them. I know what they're going to ask me, and I know what to answer to get around their questions.'"

A New York psychiatrist called him a psychopath in his teens, and told Halifax police last year Shrubsall would commit crimes for the rest of his life. Shrubsall, now 30, is being sentenced for attacks on two Halifax women - a February 1998 beating that left a store clerk in a coma, and a violent May 1998 sexual assault on a student. Crown attorneys Paul Carver and Rob Fetterly want Justice Felix Cacchione to declare Shrubsall a dangerous offender and jail him indefinitely.

The woman started dating Shrubsall after he killed his mother in 1988, and kept up the relationship until the fall of 1993, when Shrubsall was finishing an art history degree at the University of Pennsylvania. She said it was known at their high school that Shrubsall's mother abused him, a claim backed up by a Niagara Falls resident who said in taped testimony, also played yesterday, that Shrubsall's mother once beat up her husband. But a longtime neighbour told a different story. "(Shrubsall's uncle said) `There's big money involved and we have to do everything we can to save Billy. We may have to make (Shrubsall's mother) look bad in order to do so,'" the neighbour said. The neighbour didn't know what money was involved, but Shrubsall's ex-girlfriend said she believed money from Shrubsall's parents paid his legal fees.

******** MAJOR HELLS ANGELS BUST QUEBEC AND ONTARIO

Friday, March 30, 2001 Members in Ontario worry Concerned they'll be next in crackdown By CP

KITCHENER, Ont. -- Southwestern Ontario bikers are concerned they may be next, after the roundup of 128 motorcycle gang members in Quebec and Hamilton this week. Local members of the Hells Angels fear their homes could be raided as police aggressively crackdown on bike gangs. "Even if you don't do anything wrong, you will go down anyway," Andre Watteel, a member of the local Hells Angels chapter and former president of the local club, said yesterday. Watteel, 48, has been a biker for 20 years. "One of these days, they could break my door down and raid my house," said Watteel, who's concerned for his two young children, his wife and his elderly mother who lives with him in Cambridge, Ont. "They (police) are grouping us all together," Watteel said. But Waterloo regional police say the raids in Quebec and Hamilton were part of a lengthy criminal investigation based in Quebec. Many of the charges, which involve 13 murders, stem from the turf war between the Hells Angels and their rivals, the Rock Machine. There are no local raids planned, said Const. John Hargest, who investigates local bikers.

"It (the raids) shows even though the Hells Angels are a large criminal organization that any organization is able to be investigated and prosecuted by police," Hargest said.

********* B.C. HOSPITAL KEPT MAN'S BRAIN

Autopsy doc kept dead man's brain The Vancouver Province 29 March 2001

Wendy McLellan Edmonton Journal Ken Nyman's brain is soaking in a jar in a laboratory at Vancouver General Hospital and his family would like to know how it got there. Nyman, 41, who lived with a severe physical disability, died in his Burnaby apartment on Jan. 13 after choking on a wiener. His mother, Gloria Nyman, said the family were told the coroner had to perform a full autopsy to determine the cause of his death. She said that after the autopsy her son's body was transferred to a funeral home and cremated on Jan. 18. They thought Nyman's brain was cremated along with the rest of his remains.

"Nobody said anything about removing Kenny's brain," said his mom. "I wonder what else they took that we don't know about." About two weeks later, the family learned that the brain was sitting in a jar of fluid in a laboratory. "We were just shocked," Gloria said. "We have no idea why they removed his brain." It was Ken's sister, Christine Bosworth, who found out that her brother's brain was still in the laboratory at Royal Columbian Hospital. Bosworth had called the University of B.C. neurology clinic where her brother was treated for many years to inform them of his death, and a nurse asked if the clinic could receive a copy of the autopsy report for their records.

Bosworth phoned the pathologist who'd done the autopsy to request the report, and learned that it wasn't finished yet and that her brother's brain was still at the laboratory. "The pathologist had no right to take it without our permission. We should have had a choice," said Bosworth. Dr. Sydney Pilley, director of medical services for the B.C. Coroner's Service, said pathologists sometimes remove whole organs, usually the heart or brain, during an autopsy. When they do, it can take weeks or even months to "fix" the organ in fluid before it can be examined. "When we take a heart or a brain or any other organ, it's not taken for any other reason than to determine the cause of death," said Pilley. "You don't sit with the body open waiting to replace the heart or the brain. But if we've taken a whole organ, the family should be aware . . . "We try to tell the family when we've done it. That's what we should do. Do we always do it? No. But I feel we should tell the family whenever we retain an organ and explain why -- and we should do it right up front." He said that after the autopsy is complete, the family should be given the choice of getting the organ back for internment with the body or having the laboratory organize the organ's cremation. Bosworth said Ken's family would be happy to donate his brain to science. "What bothers me is they kept his brain without our consent," she said. "We buried him and they still had his brain." Ken suffered from a severe form of dystonia, a rare condition that affected his muscles. The neuro-degenerative disorders centre at UBC Hospital had tried to treat him for 10 years, but nothing could reduce the muscle twisting and cramping that left him in a wheelchair, unable to communicate without an electronic device. Because of his involuntary muscle spasms, he was often mistaken for a erson with a mental disability. Despite his painful condition, Ken was an intelligent, independent man who operated a printing business from his apartment. "He had a lovely laugh," said his grandmother Jean Bougie. "He always tried to put a little something in his sentence to make you laugh . . . He was very special. I miss him." Today, Ken's brain is still in a laboratory at VGH awaiting examination by a pathologist who specializes in neuro-degenerative disorders. The family has asked that it then be donated to science.

"Let Us Consider The Human Brain As A Very Complex Photographic Plate" 1957 G.H. Estabrooks FOR K A R E N #01182 who died fighting 4/23/99

lsharman@microage-tb.com www.aches-mc.org 807-622-5407

For people like me, violence is the minotaur; we spend our lives wandering its maze, looking for the exit. (Richard Rhodes)

Never befriend the oppressed unless you are prepared to take on the oppressor. (Author unknown)

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Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 13:58:17 -0000 From: "Catcher of The Catcher in the Rye" <thefbiisthecatcherintherye@hotmail.com> Subject: [MC] national exposure

GREAT POINT & RESPONSE ! Try to get him to hire an electromagnetic engineer and see if he can build such a device, demostrate it on the air to the public, then post all circuits & schematics on the Internet and let us know all URL's.

Some info :

http://www.raven1.net/v2s-kohn.htm

http://www.raven1.net/v2ssp.gif

http://www.raven1.net/frey.htm

------------------------ John,

These are very relevant questions pertaining to MC, but with all due respect, I do not believe that this is the right tact to introduce people to MC. I do not want to put the cart before the horse.

The first objective is to get people to undoubtedly beleieve that this type of technology exists. People need to actively investigate and research by looking at sites such as Raven and they will only do this if their interest is really tweaked. So, how best do do this?

I do not want to appear left field by taking a stance from a victims point of view, hence morals crusading. This is why I am interested in the technology used by the US during the Gulf War. This is tangible for people. The technology has an application. This will then lead to the broader picture. The more people discover the origin of this and other kinds of MC technologies, the more concerned they will be......and justly so.

Regards, Rodney

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Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 13:11:42 EST From: SMARTNEWS@aol.com Subject: re: ass't urls on drug research, mc, human id, mormons and child abuse

Dear List,

Below please find articles on these topics.

Sincerely, Neil Brick

These may heavy for survivors of abuse.

Ketamine, drug research information - "continued studies into underlying psychological mechanisms of ketamine psychedelic therapy (KPT) - Evgeny Krupitsky, M.D., Ph.D., and A.M. Burakov, M.D. "Since 1985, we have been conducting special studies of the underlying biochemical, neurophysiological and psychological mechanisms of KPT with alcoholics in order to explain its high rate of clinical efficacy for the treatment of alcohol dependency." http://mir.drugtext.org/maps/news-letters/v6n3/06319ket.shtml

Government Research into ESP & Mind Control - "Hypnosis, drugs, and psycho-surgery; separately and combined, were the tools of this quest for the ultimate truth serum on the one hand, and the capability to create an agent who could not have his or her mission tortured out of them, or even be aware that they were carrying secret information given to them in an altered state of consciousness. More and more sophisticated drugs were experimented with, such as LSD, Ketamine, and Psilocybine". http://www.freedomdomain.com/mindcontrol/mkultra01.html

Scientists Test Hallucinogens for Mental Ills - By SANDRA BLAKESLEE - 3/13/01 Mary Ann Carter for The New York Times - "Hallucinogenic drugs like LSD and peyote ....are increasingly drawing the interest of neurologists and psychiatrists who want to test the idea that they may be valuable tools in treating a range of mental disorders." http://www.nytimes.com/2001/03/13/health/13DRUG.html

Mind Control Operations at Stanford Research Institute - Lloyd Miller - 1. CIA Mind Control Operations at Stanford Research Institute by Alex Constantine - Concrete evidence that electronic mind control was an object of study at SRI was exposed by the Washington Post in 1977: "When the Navy awarded a contract to the Institute,... ELF and mind control. http://victorian.fortunecity.com/daddio/202/mindctrl.html

Human Identification at a Distance - (Humanid) - Baa00-29 - Proposer Information Pamphlet (Pip) - 2/10/00 - "The1997 Defense Science Board's Summer Study Task Force report - "DoD Responses to Transnational Threats" - stated that advanced technologies were needed for enhanced and extended perimeter security to U.S. facilities.... The goal of the Human ID program is to develop and demonstrate advanced surveillance methods that will automatically detect, recognize, and identify individuals from a distance and alert operators to any potential security concerns." http://www.darpa.mil/iso/HID/BAA0029_PIP.htm

Smile, You're On Scan Camera - by Julia Scheeres - 3/14/01 - When football fans learned that their faces were scanned and compared to mugshots of common criminals at this year's Super Bowl, many were outraged.....In the United States, face scans are used by casinos to look for cheats; law enforcement to digitalize mug shots; welfare departments to look for double-dippers.... Israel's Ministry of Defense uses facial scanning to monitor movement along the Gaza Strip....London uses them to remotely patrol the streets. Mexico and Uganda use them to register voters....The facial scans work by converting images into numerical codes that can be easily stored and searched in large databases....It ...started with ...the FERET program, a Department of Defense initiative in the early 1990s to determine the viability of using algorithms to measure faces. A handful of universities were selected to work on the $6.5 million program and to turn the futurist concept into reality." http://www.wired.com/news/print/0,1294,42317,00.html

Allegations of Mormon improprieties are at http://www.helpingmormons.org/documentation.htm http://www.helpingmormons.org/Evidence.htm

Altered Pituitary-Adrenal Axis Responses to Provocative Challenge Tests in Adult Survivors of Childhood Abuse - C. Heim, Ph.D., D. J. Newport, M.D., R. Bonsall, Ph.D., A. H. Miller, M.D. and C.B. Nemeroff, M.D., Ph.D. "Early adverse life events may predispose individuals to the development of mood and anxiety disorders in adulthood, perhaps by inducing persistent changes in corticotropin-releasing factor (CRF) neuronal systems.... These findings suggest sensitization of the anterior pituitary and counterregulative adaptation of the adrenal cortex in abused women without major depressive disorder. On subsequent stress exposure, women with a history of childhood abuse may hypersecrete CRF, resulting in down-regulation of adenohypophyseal CRF receptors and symptoms of depression and anxiety. Am J Psychiatry 2001;158 575-581"

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Date: Sat, 31-Mar-2001 20:05:45 GMT From: James R. Rose <eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com> Subject: Initiation of Action

Ecclesiastes :: The Segregated Fields ::: The Iniciation of Action, Bugelski, An Introduction to Psychology(1973) ::: [Shadow People,see Gestalt images,Gestalt Psychology,Wolfgang Kohler(1947); Laws of Contrast,Principles of Psychology,William James(1952) ] The concept of ideo-motor action is as direct an attack on the ancient mind-body problem as can be proposed. It is usually associated with William James (1890) and his atempt to solve the problem of the will or willing. How does a movement of the physical body or one of its appendages arise? The problem is as old as Aristotle ( see his De Anima ), who first discussed it and proposed a solution that is not essentially different from that of James. But first let's look at James's statement: "We may then lay it down for certain that every representation of a movement which is its object; and awakens it in maximal degree whenever it is not kept from doing so by an antagonistic representation present simultaneously to the mind." By representation, James was referring to images. His solution to the ancient problem of willing was to assign this function to imagery. Aristotle similarly wrote of imaging as the 'final cause', i.e., a mover which is not moved, as an image in the soul. James's notion was, of course, somewhat modern. For him the image or imagery involved was a rather special kind of imagery which had to be caused itself, to be sure, but which is more acceptable to today's psychologists than it was when James first wrote about it: "When a particular movement, having once occurred in a random, reflex, or involuntary way [hypnopaedia-mental holography-hallucination conditioning-tachistoscope-stroboscopic effect(animantion of and on fixed flat surface,movement and peripheral causated)-telescopic points of view on flat surfaces-laws of contrast-Gestalt stereo images-commercial products-televison-films-environment] has left an image of itself in the memory, then the movement can be desired again, proposed as an end, and deliberately willed. [ utilized as a forced stimulus-conflict construct-verbal sequences-series arrangement as constant stimuli-over ride of own free willed thought causing-effecting psychophysical system coinciding to Pavlov-(experimental neurosis)-Liddell-(artificially created experimental neurosis)-Brady-(avoidance conditioning)-Solomon ; see archives MC@topica.com (under mind control), http://www.psychops.com message board , psychoMK@topica.com]

The image that James talked about was an image 'of the results' or feedback [ Gestalt subliminal stereo images within images-imprinting-afterimage effect-mental holography-hallucianation conditioning per verbal sequence-series arrangements-complex movement(s) ] from an action which in modern terms (as a sensori-neuro process) could become conditioned to a movement. This may be a little difficult to appreciate, but Anthony Greenwald (1970) has made an excellent case for such a concept. We will follow his arguement: suppose that some response R(a) is made frequently to some stimulus, S(1). Then the response will inevitably evoke proprioceptive or kinesthetic stimuli on it's own part as shown here, where s(a) is the kinesthetic or feedback stimulation S(1)-->R(a)-->s(a) . Now by assumming the practicality of sensory conditioning [ Gestalt images-->shadow people ], we can expect S(1) to begin to generate s(a) in an antedating fashion, so that before the movement is quite complete, a reasonable facsimile of s(a) will begin to occur in the nervous system. In time, with repeated evocations, s(a) will antedate the response completely.(as above) In fact, s(a) will be in a position to become conditioned to the response itself s(a)-->R(a) . Now whenever s(a), a kinesthetic image of the consequence of a movement, occurs either spontaneously or through conditioning, the movement will occur as a conditioned response. The result will be, in effect, "mind over matter," except that no mind is involved, as we have previously indicated that "images are not mental processes but the ***"replays"*** of previously excited sensory neuron assemblies."[note see page 156 ] The widespread acceptance and readmission of imagery to the psychology of the 1970's allows us to restore James's doctrine to its deserved position of respect. The denunciation of imagery by Watson and its refusal or recognition by the Behaviorists had prevented us from working with what seems to be a concept of high promise. The notion of ideo-motor action removes a major obstacle to the acceptance of Mowrer's theory for the iniciation of action. James's time-honored solution can now be applied to this weakness in the Mowrer theory. In the treatment of ideo-motor action by Greenwald, the concept is broadened to incorporate or replace the Hullian concept of r(g) and Osgood's r (m)-->s(m) (see page 372). It also provides a more generally useful substitute for Mowrer's comparison function for imagery. The image not only serves as a standard, but it also iniciates the action that will bring the desired results. Greewald also finds the concept useful to account for imitative behavior and for much Russian research dealing with the "initiation of action through language" (Pavlov's"second-signal system"). Language might better be considered as a "third-signal system" because children too young to talk can image and iniciate activity.

The adaptation of imagery to account for voluntary behavior is a giant leap forward which should be carefully examined. Its application to other problem areas calls for even more critical study and evaluation because of the risks of error. Neal Miller, for example, suggests that succesful efforts at control of autonomic functions (e.g., heartbeat, blood pressure, skin temperature, etc. ) might be a function of images conditioned to appropriate reactions.(Neal Miller's remarks on this subject were made at the 1972 meetings of the Eastern Psychological Association, where Miller was the guest speaker. ) Pribram (1971) has assummed images of input and outcome information in what he calls "the image of achievement" as necessary for the next step in an ongoing action. Horowitz (1970), a psychiatrist, has "images evoking emotional responses similar to those originally experienced in life situations." In all these cases, as in James's original postulation, as well as that in that of Aristotle, "the image is viewed as the motivator." As our appreciation develops with continued research, we may find that the problem of the nature of motivation had been solved long ago, but that we were unable to recognize the solution because of our own biases.

""All Is Vanity""

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Date: Sat, 31-Mar-2001 20:25:52 GMT From: James R. Rose <eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com> Subject: Hierarchy of Responses

Ecclesiastes :: The Segregated Fields ::: A Hierarchy of Responses by B. K. Bugelski, An Introduction to Psychology(1973) ::

If we wanted to, we might plot the frequency and reaction time of each response to a given present stimulus and arrange the various responses in some order of probability of occurrence. We would then have a "hierarchy" of responses to the same persistent stimulus. [ this applies

to both physical stimuli and mental stimuli-mental holography-Gestalt subliminal stereo images-Laws of Contrast, and has a relation to Liddell's artificially created experimental neurosis, avoidance conditioning-cell assemblies-motor circles ]

One of the members of this hierarchy we can roughly describe as climbing the chain. This is the one we selected for the animal to learn. We note that the animal already could do this;.all that

we have accomplished in our "educational" program was to change the time

at which this would happen. We wanted it to happen first, not later in the sequence. [ hypnopaedia-hypnosis at a distance ] We wanted it to happen, furthermore, when a light came on and without the shock being applied. This we managed, as educators, to accomplish. [ inlaid Gestalt art in commercial products-television-and the environment, homes-buildings as relates to deceptive art-stereo images as Laws of Contrast by William James, Principles of Psychology(1952); puzzle-box homes and environment-human experimental lab rats ] But note, we merely managed the affair, we did not teach. No educator teaches. He manages. What does the management consist of? Only this, : "arranging for the systematic appearance of unnatural and natural stimuli which bring out the desired response, and arranging for the stimuli to be eliminated by virtue of this response."[ altering behavior by a forced stimulus brainwash unaware it is occurring ] If any learning was done, it was done by the rat [human]. Nobody taught the rat anything, just as no one has ever taught anyone anything. [ with hypnopaedia-hypnosis at a distance there is interviening variables of repetitions of verbal expressions and forced behavior-action(s) choreographed in sequences]

Words referring to teaching or training, or education, are just convient and conventional noises which actually refer to the management process and have no other real or actual detonation. This is quite clear

in the case of the rat. No one showed it how to do it or told it what to

do. In the case of a child it might appear somewhat different, but basically the same story will unfold. The teacher [ hypnopaedia-verbal expressions-operant conditioning-hypnotic conditioning-prefabbed sequences-series arrangements, etc.,etc.] may have to make noises in order that the learner is managed into making certain noises too, but making the noises is not teaching, it is still making noises and if the learner does not make them, no learning will take place. [ artificial conversation constructs as operant conditioning and hypnotic instructions, "keep say n it"u said it"go" go a long with it-this," choreographed script much as a producer produces a theatrical stage-play, see About Behaviorism by B. F. Skinner ]

Now we go back to the rat [ human-environmental and behavioral engineering ]. We saw that the rat learned to pull the chain when the light itself came on and before the shock. But before that, the rat learned to pull the chain when the shock was present. And it did learn. We know this because the time that elapsed between the onset of shock and chain-pull gradually got shorter and shorter [ antedating effect ]. But chain

pulling was very low in the hierarchy of the rat's responses to shock. We deliberately chose it because it is so low. Had we chosen to terminate the light and shock when the rat jumped in the air, for example, the learning would take place so fast that we couldn't follow it and we might even say that no learning took place, that the rat had done what rats naturally do in response to shocks and lights. But jumping up is a "natural" response. [ per verbal series-pairing of associates-Gestalt images-mental images-internal dialogue- hypnopaedia........] Can you learn to do the natural thing? You can certainly improve in time and efficiency. This is the difficulty we referred to earlier. You can do the natural thing as well or better than

the unnatural thing. And to talk about learning to do what comes naturally seems paradoxical. Yet consider such things as thumb sucking. It appears to be natural enough and yet there also appear to be learning

features to it. Within limits, the longer a child sucks its thumb, the better it gets at it, the stronger the "habit" becomes.[ intermittent reinforcement-schedules of reinforcement-operant conditioning ] We can even learn to sleep more effectively, and to eat better, ( more efficiently and, perhaps, greater amounts ) [ for purposes of hypnopaedic conditioning ], but all of these [ seemingly ] natural "habits" get so thoroughly involved with unnatural stimuli that it is "difficult to concieve of improvement in the basic activity itself." In an interesting experiment Sheffield (1948) watched the time it took rats

to get started running ( a natural response ) to a shock. As soon as they had started to run, the shock stopped. The rats learned to run almost at once; they learned so rapidly that Sheffield argued, as does Guthrie, that learning can and does take place in one trial. We are normally so inefficient about arranging and managing conditions that the

proper stimuli are not presented at the proper time and consequently learning is delayed, or the wrong things are learned, or we try to "teach" one thing and test in some other fashion which we mistakenly assume is appropriate. We find that we do not get the "correct" answers,

and so "we call the learner stupid." Only teachers can be stupid. Only teachers can be stupid, it might be assumed from the remarks of Guthrie or the conclusions of Skinner (1968)

""ALL IS VANITY""

""All Is Vanity""

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Date: Sat, 31-Mar-2001 20:29:50 GMT From: James R. Rose <eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com> Subject: Laws of Effect

Ecclesiastes :: The Segregated Fields ::: An Introduction to Psychology, B.K. Bugelski(1973), Thorndike and the Laws of Effect ::

By the 1890's psychologists had come under the influence of Darwin and his general conclusions that men and other animals varied only in evolutionary histories and that all living organisms were related in various degrees. If men were to be regarded as a spieces of animals, completely new orientations were open. Whereas animals had formerly been considered dumb brutes, they could now be considered to share some human characteristics. Many delightful works appeared (Hobhouse, 1901; Romances, 1883) in which animals were described as intelligent, loyal, sensitive, generous, etc. This literature did not survive with any strength and is largely forgotten. The other side of the story involved thinking of man as an animal--perhaps dumb and brutish--struggling to survive. Thorndike took this view. He reasoned as did many of his successors, that if man were an animal, one could learn about learning in man by observing learning in simpler animals in simpler situations. In his earliest studies Thorndike used chickens, which are notoriously stupid animals. Later on he turned to cats ( although he did use a number of other spieces ). For reasons that were never explained, Thorndike chose to view learning as a problem-solving process. He placed cats in boxes (called "puzzle boxes") where they had a problem: that of getting out. The only way of getting out would be to pull a string hanging down from the cieling of the box or, in other cases, by depressing a latch that held the doorclosed. [ see my entries for the human factor as relates to the verbal sequences-series arrangements-hypnopaedic constant stimulis for the controling of humans in their puzzleboxes; Homes lot design closely spaced, physics of sound and light in the archetecture of these homes, view as infrastructural design of the human puzzleboxes-environmental and behavioral engineering, see About Behaviorism by B. F. Skinner, also Walden's Pond, and Walden's Pond II . ] In this situation cats appeared to act out Darwin's evolutionary struggle for survival. They would try one thing after another and finally do the right thing. Thorndike labeled the process he observed as "trial and error."

[ view much of man's behavior toward personal welfare and commercial products in this concept: headache=aspirin, ad infinim per interviening variables as relates to diseases-pains-aches-surgery . . . . . ....... see Solomon entry on Selye and psychosamatic ailments, see Hypnopaedia, Subconscious Persuasion, Brainwashing, The Art of Selling, in Brave New World Revisited by Aldous Huxley(1958) entries ]

Because even when the cats did the right thing they showed no sign of knowing what it was all about, Thorndike stated that the correct response had happened by chance--as indeed it might. Thorndike, for example, might let the cat escape if it scratched its ear. Such a response presumably would occur only by chance. Thorndike then combined the "trial and error" phrase with "chance success" as descriptive of problem-solving behavior. Learning became a matter of "trial and error and chance success." Because the cat would normally repeat the successful response somewhat sooner with succeeding trials ( note that the learning was reported to be gradual, with no inteeligent "insight"). Thorndike was faced with the question of why there was any improvement with practice. Here again Darwin comes to the rescue. The last response performed was adaptive, it had survival value. While this does not really answer the question, Thorndike chose to think it did and stated that the results (the effects) of a response had a bearing on the connection between the stimuli to that response and the response itself. Thus, Thorndike argued, a stimulus had a connection or bond with a given response to begin with--thatis, a natural connection in the nervous system that could be symbolized as S----->R. An adaptive effect (like finding food outside of the box ) was then supposed to lead to a "satisfying state of affairs" and somehow to strengthen this bond and make it more likely to operate in the future. If the aftereffect were negative or punishing, e.g., painful or tiring or an "annoying state of affairs," it was supposed to weaken the bond. [ constant psychophysical-electromagnetic attack, see Continuing Saga entries ] Thorndike attributed this strengthening or weakening of bonds that depend on satisfying or annoying consequences to the animal to what he called The Law of Effect. Note all that is involved in this rather simple law. First, it is recognized that the animal already has the necessary bonds in its nervous system. That is, in the given stimulus situation S it has some tendencies (bonds) to make a variety of responses R(s), so that we can symbolize the circumstances: S--->R(1), S--->R(2), S--->R(3), S--->R(4). This means that any given stimulus might elicit, quite naturally, any of a number of responses. In a problem situation, however, the normally strongest response R(1) is not effective, or there would be no problem. Some other R, perhaps R(3), is "correct." Before the animal will perform R(3), however, it will go through R(1) and R(2), perhaps frequently, until it gets tired of doing so or is prevented by other factors. Eventually R(3) occurs. It is successful and the bond between S and R(3) now becomes stronger. On a future occassion it might be exercised sooner. Eventually it gets so strong by exercise (Thorndike had a Law of Exercise to fit this need ) or practice that the bond between S and R(3) is stronger than that between S and R(1) and replaces it in the hierarchy. { Professor Clark L. Hull developed the concept of the Habit-family-hierarchy (see page 202) which involved the notion of many possible responses to one stimulus as well as the notion of a single response to a variety of stimuli } Second, we note that this replacement of one response by another is a rather dumb, mechanical, chancy process. No intelligence is at work. You are either lucky or unlucky depending upon whether or not the correct response occurs. There is nothing you can do about the sequence of responses that occurs. [ such is not the case with Hypnopaedia-Hypnotism at a distance-managing the state of affairs, see Iniciation of Action, and Ideo-motor Action entries, motivators-motivation; This also app(À>À>

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Date: Sat, 31-Mar-2001 20:54:03 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: Consumertronics

Some previously sold equipment from Consumertronics. Schematics and plans may still be available.

JV

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Date: Sat, 31-Mar-2001 21:29:23 GMT From: James R. Rose <eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com> Subject: Re:Iniciation of Action

Ecclesiastes :: The Segregated Fields ::: The Iniciation of Action, Bugelski, An Introduction to Psychology(1973) ::: [Shadow People,see Gestalt images,Gestalt Psychology,Wolfgang Kohler(1947); Laws of Contrast,Principles of Psychology,William James(1952) ] The concept of ideo-motor action is as direct an attack on the ancient mind-body problem as can be proposed. It is usually associated with William James (1890) and his atempt to solve the problem of the will or willing. How does a movement of the physical body or one of its appendages arise? The problem is as old as Aristotle ( see his De Anima ), who first discussed it and proposed a solution that is not essentially different from that of James. But first let's look at James;s statement: "We may then lay it down for certain that every representation of a movement which is its object; and awakens it in maximal degree whenever it is not kept from doing so by an antagonistic representation present simultaneously to the mind." By representation, James was referring to images. His solution to the ancient problem of willing was to assign this function to imagery. Aristotle similarly wrote of imaging as the 'final cause', i.e., a mover which is not moved, as an image in the soul. James's notion was, of course, somewhat modern. For him the image or imagery involved was a rather special kind of imagery which had to be caused itself, to be sure, but which is more acceptable to today's psychologists than it was when James first wrote about it: "When a particular movement, having once occurred in a random, reflex, or involuntary way [hypnopaedia-mental holography-hallucination conditioning-tachistoscope-stroboscopic effect-telescopic points of view-laws of contrast-Gestalt stereo images-commercial products-televison-films-environment] has left an image of itself in the memory, then the movement can be desired again, proposed as an end, and deliberately willed. [ utilized as a forced stimulus-conflict construct-verbal sequences-series arrangement as constant stimuli-over ride of own free willed thought causing-effecting psychophysical system coinciding to Pavlov-(experimental neurosis)-Liddell-(artificially created experimental neurosis)-Brady-(avoidance conditioning)-Solomon ; see archives MC@topica.com , http://www.psychops.com message board , psychoMK@topica.com]

The image that James talked about was an image 'of the results' or feedback [ Gestalt subliminal stereo images within images-imprinting-afterimage effect-mental holography-hallucianation conditioning per verbal sequence-series arrangements-complex movement(s) ] from an action which in modern terms (as a sensori-neuro process) could become conditioned to a movement. This may be a little difficult to appreciate, but Anthony Greenwald (1970) has made an excellent case for such a concept. We will follow his arguement: suppose that some response R(a) is made frequently to some stimulus, S(1). Then the response will inevitably evoke proprioceptive or kinesthetic stimuli on it's own part as shown here, where s(a) is the kinesthetic or feedback stimulation S(1)-->R(a)-->s(a) . Now by assumming the practicality of sensory conditioning [ Gestalt images ], we can expect S(1) to begin to generate s(a) in an antedating fashion, so that before the movement is quite complete, a reasonable facsimile of s(a) will begin to occur in the nervous system. In time, with repeated evocations, s(a) will antedate the response completely.(as above) In fact, s(a) will be in a position to become conditioned to the response itself s(a)-->R(a) . Now whenever s(a), a kinesthetic image of the consequence of a movement, occurs either spontaneously or through conditioning, the movement will occur as a conditioned response. The result will be, in effect, "mind over matter," except that no mind is involved, as we have previously indicated that "images are not mental processes but the "replays" of previously excited sensory neuron assemblies."[note see page 156 ] The widespread acceptance and readmission of imagery to the psychology of the 1970's allows us to restore James's doctrine to its deserved position of respect. The denunciation of imagery by Watson and its refusal or recognition by the Behaviorists had prevented us from working with what seems to be a concept of high promise. The notion of ideo-motor action removes a major obstacle to the acceptance of Mowrer's theory for the iniciation of action. James's time-honored solution can now be applied to this weakness in the Mowrer theory. In the treatment of ideo-motor action by Greenwald, the concept is broadened to incorporate or replace the Hullian concept of r(g) and Osgood's r (m)-->s(m) (see page 372). It also provides a more generally useful substitute for Mowrer's comparison function for imagery. The image not only serves as a standard, but it also iniciates the action that will bring the desired results. Greewald also finds the concept useful to account for imitative behavior and for much Russian research dealing with the "initiation of action through language" (Pavlov's"second-signal system"). Language might better be considered as a "third-signal system" because children too young to talk can image and iniciate activity. The adaptation of imagery to account for voluntary behavior is a giant leap forward which should be carefully examined. Its application to other problem areas calls for even more critical study and evaluation because of the risks of error. Neal Miller, for example, suggests that succesful efforts at control of autonomic functions (e.g., heartbeat, blood pressure, skin temperature, etc. ) might be a function of images .conditioned to appropriate reactions.(Neal Miller's remarks on this subject were made at the 1972 meetings of the Eastern Psychological Association, where Miller was the guest speaker. ) Pribram (1971) has assummed images of input and outcome information in what he calls "the image of achievement" as necessary for the next step in an ongoing action. Horowitz (1970), a psychiatrist, has "images evoking emotional responses similar to those originally experienced in life situations." In all these cases, as in James's original postulation, as well as that in that of Aristotle, "the image is viewed as the motivator." As our appreciation develops with continued research, we may find that the problem of the nature of motivation had been solved long ago, but that we were unable to recognize the solution because of our own biases. [the previous entry failed to fully post] ""All Is Vanity""

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Date: Sat, 31-Mar-2001 21:39:15 GMT From: James R. Rose <eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com> Subject: Re:Laws of Effect (ending-copy?)

This also applies to the Gestalt subliminal stereo images and as relates to Laws of Contrast entries ] Learning is a plain and simple matter of dumb luck. But remember, the organism must engage in responding, that is: be active. Dumb luck cannot occur if the organism does not act or do something. Third, note that learning is not a matter of adding something new or learning how to do something. The animal already knows how to pull a string. No one can teach you to do something you cannot do. If you can do something, learning amounts to not doing other things you are also able to do as responses to stimuli. If you state that you cannot do a backflip and you are of normal weight and health, what you presumably mean is that in a situation you are frightened; you are not about to try. With a couple of friends

[ carefully placed verbal expressions as internal dialogue (surrogate humunculous) in serial sequences-repetitions-rotations of a variety or single attitude-self-object formula thereof ]

and a jumping belt around your waist you might find a backflip quite easy. What you have to do to perform a backflip is to get rid of R(1), R(2), and perhaps a few more. R(backflip) then emerges like a new evolutionary spieces. [ The same as the spieces killing, molesting, stalking, child molesting, bombing, etc., etc., etc. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ]

""All Is Vanity""

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Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 23:40:41 +0100 From: "maureen" <m.a.norman@ntlworld.com> Cc: <mc@topica.com> Subject: Re: [MC] Consumertronics

Thanks John:

But when I asked you for countermeasures thought there may be something home-made that wasn't so expensive. That would stop the signals that keep being aimed my way. Some kind of defence would be good, but I just cannot afford any of these.

Maureen

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Date: Sun, 1-Apr-2001 05:29:57 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: RE: Consumertronics

maureen wrote: > Thanks John: > > But when I asked you for countermeasures thought > there may be something home-made that wasn't > so expensive. That would stop the signals that

Maybe conductive garments.

JV

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Date: Sun, 1-Apr-2001 05:45:52 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: RE: Consumertronics

BTW, this post wasn't about any countermeasures.

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Mind Control counter measure By cheerful144@yahoo.com

Just since I wrote the last letter they have started from By cheerful144@yahoo.com

It's been three hours since I last said anything to any of you By cheerful144@yahoo.com

It is now approximately five hours of constant hammering? By cheerful144@yahoo.com

Conductive Garments By frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca

electricity By crscrt1@home.com

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Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 09:00:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Flora Gedenberg <cheerful144@yahoo.com> Subject: Mind Control counter measure

I am merely giving facts here not some religious balter dash some lunitic with nothing to say or nothing to give insisting we listen to their "opinions" while we in this machine assualt are litterly being driven to madness.

These are how I do it to come against these machines. These are facts. I do it using the 12 steps of A.A. and I mean it's because I didn't have a soul for 35 years of my 37 years of this constant madness.

I have a higher power, and whether you like this statement or not I use the steps and I am powerless over these wicked, insane, dehumaizing crap.

I read the scripture out loud, and leave my radio, and televison off, George Bush doesn't have a television did you know that?

Now whether this sounds like balterdash crap or not it works. I've been being hammered and hammered since about two and a half weeks ago. Dayly and nitely. They are trying to drive me out of my mind as they have driven me totally insane for a period of time and I was sent to mental institutions. They hate my guts because my higher power works as long as I use the 12 steps of A.A. and work my program and trust my higher power. And God damn it it works.

Whether you like it or not, I'm supposed to be a babbeling idiot right now, and I'm calm and sane because of the process I've written above.

You can feel the vibrations while you're watching tv or listening to the radio. And it's not wise to play either of these while you're online on your computer as I did that one day and suddenly turned off the computer and I had many voices comming over the radio and when I relalized this I've quit playing them and I'm in a sane mannor today.

don't tell me I can't tell you the truth, and give you some relief if you use this process it works for me, and I'm supposed to be competely mad at this point and my higher power is working wether you like it or not. Flora ------------------------------

Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 09:17:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Flora Gedenberg <cheerful144@yahoo.com> Subject: Just since I wrote the last letter they have started from

a differant source to hit me. OK? I'm powerless, and I defy anybody else to say they have the power to stop these fiends. So it's not me that wins out, it's my higher power. I'm getting hammered big time right now, and I can't do one thing about it except what I just told you in the other letter.

Those idiots know I'm powerless so until I crash which I may well do, but If I don't it's because I use the formula I told you. Yes I'm miserable, but now I just go to the good book and read for me Psalms because it's easy to read. I don't do one single thing but rely on my higher power and his instructions and formulas, and I'm a religious bigot if I do this in a religious way. I have to use the 12 steps to keep me from being and playing God.

And I will without malice, or anger, read out loud the bible, and the end results by using my steps of A.A. are in whether you like it or not......God's hands. I am absolutely powerless.

? And when you come at me with your religious crap with no knowledge what so ever of what we are going through I'm going to tell you that I'm not interested, you haven't got a clue as to what I'm talking about.

My higher power allows me to say shit when I see it, so keep your religious bull crap to yourself, cause I'll delete it as fast as you send it. You go be shocked some place else. This is a blood and guts situation and religion doesn't have one thing to do with the bible. you religious rape people's minds and make us feel guilt that should be on your own big blabbing shoulders. If you hate my guts for saying this I'm simply going to say thankyou, comming from you that's a complitment. Flora

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Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 13:43:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Flora Gedenberg <cheerful144@yahoo.com> Subject: It's been three hours since I last said anything to any of you

Immediately upon the shutting down of my computer from writing to you, they came at me from the East, which until then it had been from the west.

It was severe. I wouldn't of been suprised it it had of blown the back of my head off it was that much pressure. I simply spoke out the bible, and trusted my Higher Power with all my heart as I'm totally powerless over ems or elf.

I'm in good spirits, and I am sane. They gave me two shots of that stuff since I've talked to you last.

I'm fine, but it was a heavy duty little hummer.

? Nope I'm not even close to nuts yet? Oh, the cops are sticking very close to be sure and pick me up to slam me in a mental institution, but I am just as good as fine can be at this point.

I guarantee you it's nothing at all that I'm doing. None what so ever. I'm powerless and I mean it. There's a differance between being Spiritual and having tremendous respect and reverance for your Higher power, then being a religious bigot whom gives no one respect what so ever and every thing they do is to trap you into their way of thinking and if you don't your well? you need to be delivered they say in a huge voice?psft. ? No thanks

I'm fine? Flora

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Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 16:27:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Flora Gedenberg <cheerful144@yahoo.com> Subject: It is now approximately five hours of constant hammering?

I'm doing fine with my formula.

They deleted one message I sent to you, but then that doesn't suprise me. I've had no one to help me at all What so ever for 37 years except A.A. and my higher power.

They dont' want anyone to hear the truth, I have no idea who deleted the message, don't really care. I am what I am, and my formula works for me.

I can do nothing on my own, I am powerless. There's a great differance between being "religious" and being Spiritual. I am Spiritual, and it's all by grace, and I did nothing on my own.

bye for now, am doing fine and expect to be fine with a little disturbance through the days till Easter anyway. I feel I will make it that long no matter how long they hammer me. What I supose will happen is they can't crack me up, so they'll come and haul me off to the funny farm anyway because they don't like someone spitting on Superman's cape. ha.

Flora

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Date: Mon, 2-Apr-2001 00:41:37 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: Conductive Garments

Baseball caps, scarfs, jackets and aprons lined with copper/polyester.

http://www.shieldworks.com/catalog.html

JV

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Date: Mon, 2-Apr-2001 08:00:28 GMT From: <crscrt1@home.com> Subject: electricity

Hi - I'm new to this list and have been targeted for six years. My question is this: How does the perps turn off my tv, computer or even half the Christmas lights on the tree? They seem to send power surges thru the line knocking out my computer even in the dead of night when no storms are in the area. I know of them shutting down half an apt. complex and turning the lights on after a drug shippment had been delivered. Does anyone know?

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RE: electricity By frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca

Dirt Cheap RF Detector By frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca

What did the C.I.A. do to Eric Olson's father? By atyner@nimbus.ocis.temple.edu

Pray for Francie Tierney By packrat@texas.net

Non Lethal Weapons By m.a.norman@ntlworld.com

RE: Pray for Francie Tierney By frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca

RE: Pray for Francie Tierney By crscrt1@home.com

re: Annie McKenna's Presentation on ra/mc and scrapbook therapy By smartnews@aol.com

Re: Cheryl Hersha: Response to U. Dowbenko's review of "Secret Weapons." By smartnews@aol.com

Review - "EXOPOLITICS" By ecotoday@aol.com

I've been under heavy MC Ultra ems waves for at least By cheerful144@yahoo.com

Did anyone? By packrat@texas.net

RE: I've been under heavy MC Ultra ems waves for at least By frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca

JV suggests to Flora and her reply is: By cheerful144@yahoo.com

This is the last of this as far as I'm concerned I'm here for survivors By cheerful144@yahoo.com

RE: This is the last of this as far as I'm concerned I'm here for surviv By frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca

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Date: Mon, 2-Apr-2001 09:02:36 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: RE: electricity

crscrt1@home.com wrote: > Hi - > I'm new to this list and have been targeted for six years. > My question is this: > How does the perps turn off my tv, computer or even half the Christmas > lights on the tree? They seem to send power surges thru the line > knocking out my computer even in the dead of night when no storms are in > > the area. I know of them shutting down half an apt. complex and turning > the lights on after a drug shippment had been delivered. Does anyone > know? > > csrcrt1

See X10 modules.

JV

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Date: Mon, 2-Apr-2001 09:27:58 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: Dirt Cheap RF Detector

Only $15, will even detect an incomong cell phone call.

http://www.goodygadgets.com/Products/CoolGadgets/RFBug/rfbug.html

JV

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Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 10:33:52 -0400 From: "A. Tyner" <atyner@nimbus.ocis.temple.edu> Subject: What did the C.I.A. do to Eric Olson's father?

NYT Magazine: April 1, 2001

What Did the C.I.A. Do to Eric Olson's Father?

By MICHAEL IGNATIEFF

For a quarter of a century, a close friend of mine, a Harvard classmate, has believed that the Central Intelligence Agency murdered his father, a United States government scientist. Believing this means, in my friend's words, "leaving the known universe," the one in which it is innocently accepted that an agency of the American government would never do such a thing. My friend has left this known universe, even raising his father's body from the grave where it had lain for 40 years to test the story the C.I.A. told him about his death. The evidence on the body says that the agency may have lied. But knowing this has not healed my friend. When I ask him what he has learned from his ordeal, he says, "Never dig up your father." Then he laughs, and the look on his face is wild, bitter and full of pain.

On Nov. 28, 1953, around 2 a.m., Armand Pastore, night manager at the Statler Hotel opposite Penn Station in New York, rushed out the front door on Seventh Avenue to find a middle-aged man lying on the sidewalk in his undershirt and shorts. "He was broken up something awful," Pastore told reporters many years later, flat on his back with his legs smashed and bent at a terrible angle. Looking up, Pastore could see a blind pushed through an empty window frame high up in the Statler. The man had fallen from the 10th floor -- apparently after crashing through a closed window -- but he was alive. "He was trying to mumble something, but I couldn't make it out. It was all garbled, and I was trying to get his name." By the time the priest and the ambulance came, the stranger on the sidewalk was dead.

When Pastore went up to the stranger's room -- 1018A -- with the police, they found a man who gave his name as Robert Lashbrook sitting on the toilet with his head in his hands. Down at reception, Pastore asked the hotel telephone operator whether she had overheard any calls from 1018A. Two, she said. In one, a voice had said, "He's gone." The voice on the other end replied, "That's too bad." Lashbrook admitted making two calls but has denied saying anything of the sort.

The high trees over the family house in Frederick, Md., were still in darkness when Eric Olson was woken by his mother, Alice, and taken into the living room. Upstairs, his younger sister, Lisa, and brother, Nils, slept undisturbed. Lt. Col. Vincent Ruwet, his father's boss at the Army research establishment at Fort Detrick, told Eric something bad had happened. "Fallen or jumped" and "accident" were the words he heard as he looked across the room at his mother, frozen and empty-eyed, on the sofa opposite. "In that moment when I learned that my father had gone out a window and died," Eric later wrote, "it was as if the plug were pulled from some central basin of my mind and a vital portion of my consciousness drained out." He was 9 years old.

hen I first met Eric Olson in 1974, both of us were working on doctorates at Harvard. Mine was in history, his in clinical psychology. What I liked about him was his maniacal cackle. One minute he would be laboring some abstruse point in his Southern drawl, the next his face would be alight with a snaggle-toothed grin, and his body would be electrified by the joke he had just slipped by me, deadpan. The laugh was an attractive and alarming trait, because sometimes he would laugh about things that weren't funny at all.

His Harvard research was about how to help people recover from trauma. With the psychiatrist Robert Jay Lifton, he had been to Man, W.Va., to interview survivors of a disaster in which 125 people had been killed and 4,000 people made homeless when a dam burst and a wall of black water containing coal waste swept down Buffalo Creek. He and Lifton wrote a paper that spoke of the way sudden, violent loss left people imprinted with death anxiety and long-term psychic numbing.

I remember Eric talking for hours in his Cambridge apartment about a technique he had been using to help the people of Buffalo Creek. It was called the "collage method," and it involved getting survivors to paste together pictures, using anything they felt like clipping out of newspapers and magazines. It seemed childish to me at first, but Eric said that for people whose lives were in pieces anyway, collage was mysteriously satisfying. They would work for hours in silence, he said, moving about the floor, sticking things down, and sometimes when they had finished, they would contemplate what they had done and start to cry.

After 75 years of psychoanalysis -- the talking cure -- here was a therapy, Eric believed, that didn't start from words but from images. It seemed to unfurl the winding processes of a person's unconscious and lay them out flat on paper. Eric had been playing around with his father's camera and making photomontages since childhood. But he didn't stumble on the power of collage until he was in his 20's. One stoned night, he and a girlfriend got down on their knees in her apartment and began cutting pictures out of magazines and gluing them down. When Eric finished, the central image of his collage was a grainy picture of a man falling head first out of a window.

n June 11, 1975, The Washington Post revealed that a commission led by Vice President Nelson Rockefeller had discovered that "a civilian employee of the Department of the Army unwittingly took LSD as part of a Central Intelligence Agency test" and "developed serious side effects." After being sent to New York with a C.I.A. escort for psychiatric treatment, the employee jumped from a hotel window and died as a result. The Rockefeller report added a footnote: "There are indications in the few remaining agency records that this individual may have had a history of emotional instability."

Back in Frederick, Lisa Olson confronted Vincent Ruwet, her father's old boss at Detrick. He had regularly visited Alice Olson, shared a drink with her, become a trusted friend of the children. Ruwet stalled at first but eventually confirmed that the man in the story was Frank Olson and that he had known the details in The Post story all along.

If Ruwet had known all along, then the family had lived for 22 years in a community of lies: families of government scientists who had kept the truth away from a family dying from the lack of it. This culture of secrecy had also contaminated the family from within. Alice Olson covered the whole subject of Frank's death with a silence that was both baffling and intimidating. Her mantra, whenever Eric would ask what really happened in Room 1018A, was, "You are never going to know what happened in that room."

Maintaining stoic silence took its toll. By the 1960's, Alice Olson was routinely drinking on the quiet, locking herself in the bathroom and then coming out mean and confused. One time, when Eric returned from a year away in India, he walked right past her in the airport. The drinking had left her so thin and wasted that he didn't recognize her. All the time, Ruwet had been there for her, keeping her company. It later turned out that he had received orders from the C.I.A.'s director, Allen Dulles, to keep in touch with her.

With their mother locked in silence, the children were left alone with their own sense of shame about their father's death. Eric told other children that his father had suffered "a fatal nervous breakdown," without knowing what that could possibly mean. Thanks to The Post's revelations, the summer of 1975 was the family's "Copernican Revolution." They gave the exclusive on their personal story to Seymour Hersh of The New York Times, and when he came through the door of the house in Frederick, his first words were: "This must be the most uncurious family in the United States. I can't believe you fell for that story for 22 years." Later, at a news conference in the backyard at Frederick, under the big trees, the family announced that they were going to sue the government for wrongful death. Their ultimate purpose, they said, was to imprint what had happened to their father in "American memory."

The news conference had immediate results. On July 21, 1975, Alice, Eric, Nils, Lisa and Lisa's husband, Greg Hayward, were invited to the White House. In the Oval Office, according to newspaper accounts, President Gerald Ford expressed "the sympathy of the American people and apologized on behalf of the U.S. government." There is a photograph of Alice shaking the president's hand. Her face is glowing. Even so, catharsis was brief. The meeting with the president lasted 17 minutes.

A week or so later, Eric, Lisa, Nils and two lawyers met the C.I.A.'s director, William Colby, at the agency's headquarters in Langley, Va. In his memoirs, Colby remembered the lunch as "one of the most difficult assignments I have ever had." At the end of the lunch, Colby handed the family an inch-thick sheaf of declassified documents relating to Frank Olson's death. What Colby did not tell them -- did not reveal until he published his memoirs just three years later -- was that Frank Olson had not been a civilian employee of the Department of the Army. He had been a C.I.A. employee working at Fort Detrick.

The Colby documents were photocopies of the agency's own in-house investigation of Olson's death and like Eric's collages: a redacted jumble of fragments, full of unexplained terms like the "Artichoke" and "Bluebird" projects. These turned out to be the precursors of what became known as MK-ULTRA, a C.I.A. project, beginning in the Korean War, to explore the use of drugs like LSD as truth serums, as well as botulism and anthrax, for use in covert assassination.

The documents claimed that during a meeting between the C.I.A. and Fort Detrick scientists at Deep Creek Lodge in rural Maryland on Nov. 19,1953, Sidney Gottlieb of the C.I.A. slipped LSD into Olson's glass of Cointreau. After 20 minutes, Olson developed mild symptoms of disorientation. He was then told the drink had been spiked. The next day, Olson returned home early and spent the weekend in a mood that Alice remembered as withdrawn but not remotely psychotic. He kept saying he had made a terrible mistake, but she couldn't get him to say what it was.

On Sunday night, they went to see a film about Martin Luther. It followed the young Luther to the moment of spiritual crisis -- Here I stand, I can do no other" -- when he decided to take on the might of the Catholic Church. The next day, Olson went straight to Ruwet's office and said he wanted to resign. Ruwet told him to calm down. The next morning, he returned to Ruwet's office and insisted that his resignation be accepted. While Alice's memory was of Frank being in the grip of an ethical dilemma, Ruwet told C.I.A. investigators that Olson "appeared to be greatly agitated and in his own words, 'all mixed up."'

Ruwet and Robert Lashbrook, a C.I.A. liaison at Fort Detrick, took Olson to New York -- ostensibly to seek psychiatric advice. But the doctor Olson saw, an allergist named Harold Abramson, was receiving C.I.A. financing to experiment with LSD, and his sole exercise of therapeutic attention was to prescribe Nembutal and bourbon to help Olson sleep.

Olson was also taken to see John Mulholland, a New York magician on the C.I.A. payroll, who may have tried to hypnotize him. Ruwet told C.I.A. investigators that in Mulholland's presence, Olson became highly agitated. "What's behind this?" he kept asking his friend Ruwet. "Give me the lowdown. What are they trying to do with me? Are they checking me for security?" "Everyone was in a plot to 'get' him," he told Lashbrook. He begged them to "just let me disappear."

According to the documents Colby had given the family, Olson spent an agonized night wandering the streets of New York, discarding his wallet and identification cards. He said he was too ashamed to go home to his wife and children, so he and Lashbrook ate a cheerless Thanksgiving dinner at a Horn & Hardart automat in Midtown.

Late the next day, according to the C.I.A. story, it was decided that Olson needed to be institutionalized. Yet when Olson phoned Alice that night, he said that he felt "much better" and "looked forward to seeing her the next day." That night, in Room 1018A, with Lashbrook in the bed by the door, Olson was calm: he washed out his socks and underwear and went to sleep. Four hours later, Armand Pastore found him lying on his back on Seventh Avenue.

The C.I.A.'s general counsel, called in immediately in 1953 to investigate Olson's death, noted that the official story -- that LSD "triggered" the suicide -- was "completely inconsistent" with the facts in the case. Disciplinary action was recommended against Gottlieb and Lashbrook, but the agency's director, Allen Dulles, delivered only a mild reprimand. Lashbrook left the agency, but Gottlieb remained in senior positions for 20 more years. He told the internal inquiry that Olson's death was "just one of the risks running with scientific experimentation." Far from ending with Olson's death, the LSD experiments continued for two decades.

The Colby documents left the family marooned, no longer believing that Frank's death was a simple suicide but not knowing what to believe instead. A photograph in People magazine in July 1975 shows each of them in the living room in Frederick, unsmiling and not looking at one another. In 1976, after negotiations in which they traded away their right to further civil or criminal proceedings against the government, the family received a total of $750,000, half a million less than originally recommended by the White House and even the C.I.A. itself.

If this was "closure," it was of an especially cursed kind. Shortly after receiving her portion of the money, Eric's sister, together with her husband and their 2-year-old son, Jonathan, set off by small plane from Frederick to a destination in the Adirondacks, where they were going to invest the money in a lumber mill. The plane crashed, and everyone on board was killed.

n the aftermath of Lisa's death, Eric took his portion of the money and went to Sweden to escape the accursed story. In Stockholm, he read intensively, exploring the connection between his spatial, collage-based theory of the mind and linguistic accounts of mental processes. He also had a son, Stephan, by a woman he never married. If distance was supposed to heal him, however, the cure didn't work. He "smoldered" in Stockholm and in 1984 returned to the States determined, he said, to find out the truth "once and for all."

"Once and for all" meant returning to the hotel and checking into Room 1018A. He recalls this strange night now as a revelation. "It just hit you," he says. The room was simply too small for his father to have gained the speed to take a running plunge through the window. The sill was too high and too wide -- there was a radiator in front of it -- for him to have dived through a closed window and a lowered blind in the dark.

Eric, Nils and Alice, now recovered from alcoholism, tracked down Sidney Gottlieb in his ecologically correct home in Culpeper, Va., where the retired spymaster was raising goats, eating yogurt and preaching the values of peace and environmentalism. He received them pleasantly but conceded nothing. "I was outclassed," Eric remembers. "This was a world-class intelligence." They also found Lashbrook, at his vine-covered stucco house in Ojai, Calif., where they watched him twitch in his seat as he told his version of what happened in room 1018A -- that he was awakened by a crash, saw a broken window and an empty bed and concluded that Frank Olson had jumped to his death.

From these encounters, Eric realized that he was up against a brotherhood of silence and that his father had once belonged to it. It was, as one former Detrick employee called it, "a community of saints" dedicated to using the most fearful and secret science to defend the republic.

rank Olson's specialty, it turned out, had been the development of aerosols for the delivery of anthrax. With the discovery in the 1950's that the North Koreans were brainwashing American prisoners, the Special Operations Division at Detrick became the center for the development of drugs for use in brainwashing and interrogation. LSD emerged as one of the interrogation drugs of choice. Alice Olson never knew exactly what her husband was doing -- he was, in fact, working for the C.I.A. by this time -- but she did know that whenever his lab tested chemical or biological compounds on monkeys and the monkeys died, her husband would bring a testy silence home.

One mystery -- entry and exit stamps in Frank Olson's passport, indicating that he had been to Sweden, Germany and Britain in the summer of 1953 -- seemed to offer a crucial clue to his state of mind in the months before his death. Through Gordon Thomas, a British journalist and author of numerous books on intelligence matters, Eric learned that during a trip to London his father had apparently confided in William Sargant, a consultant psychiatrist who advised British intelligence on brainwashing techniques.

According to Thomas, who was a lifelong friend of Sargant's, Olson told Sargant that he had visited secret joint American-British testing and research installations near Frankfurt. Thomas's hypothesis is that the C.I.A. was testing interrogation and truth serums there -- not on monkeys but on human subjects, "expendables," captured Russian agents and ex-Nazis. Thomas says that Olson confessed to Sargant that he had witnessed something terrible, possibly "a terminal experiment" on one or more of the expendables. Sargant heard Olson out and then reported to British intelligence that the young American scientist's misgivings were making him a security risk. He recommended that Olson be denied further access to Porton Down, the British chemical-weapons research establishment.

A document Eric later saw from his father's personnel file confirmed that doubts had been raised about Olson's security clearance before his death, possibly because of Sargant's warning. Alice Olson, who knew nothing about the nature of his visit, did recall that when he returned from Europe that summer, Frank was unusually withdrawn.

Olson, a scientist by training, would have known that he was working for a government that had put Nazi scientists on trial at Nuremberg for immoral experiments on human beings. Now, in the late summer of 1953, his son says he believes, a naive American patriot faced up to the possibility that his own government was doing the same thing. If the C.I.A. was in fact experimenting with "expendables" in Germany, and if Olson knew about it, Eric reasoned, then it would not be enough to hospitalize him, discredit him with lies about his mental condition and allow him to slip back into civilian life. It would be better to get rid of him altogether but make it look like suicide. This was the truth, Eric came to believe, that lay hidden in the collage of the Colby documents.

If Eric is right, slipping LSD into Olson's Cointreau was not an experiment that went wrong: it was designed to get him to talk while hallucinating. The trip to New York was not to manage and contain his incipient psychosis. It was intended to assess what kind of risk he posed and then eliminate him if necessary. Housing a possibly deranged and desperate man in a hotel room high above Seventh Avenue was not a regrettable error of judgment. It was the prelude to murder. If Frank Olson had realized this, his son could now read his father's last words ("Just let me disappear") as a cry for help.

In 1997, after the C.I.A. inadvertently declassified an assassination manual dating from late 1953, Eric Olson was able to read the following: "The most efficient accident, in simple assassination, is a fall of 75 feet or more onto a hard surface. Elevator shafts, stairwells, unscreened windows and bridges will serve. . . . The act may be executed by sudden, vigorous [excised] of the ankles, tipping the subject over the edge." The manual went on to recommend a blow to the temple to stun the subject first: "In chase cases it will usually be necessary to stun or drug the subject before dropping him."

Reading this passage at the kitchen table in Frederick, Eric realized that the word he had been looking for all his life was not "fallen" or "jumped" but "dropped." It was, he recalled, one of the few moments when, after nearly 50 years, he actually experienced his father's death, when the truth he had been seeking finally took hold of him.

In allowing the Olson family to receive the ultimate sacrament of American healing -- a formal apology from the president in the Oval Office -- the C.I.A. tacitly acknowledged that it had committed a sin against the order that holds citizens in allegiance to their government. Now, it seemed to Eric Olson, that apology had been a cynical lie. It enabled the C.I.A. to hide, forever, a perfect murder.

It is one thing to believe in a truth as painful as this. It is another to prove it. In 1994, Eric had his father's casket raised from the ground. At the funeral in 1953, the coffin was shut because the family had been told that the body was broken up and that there were extensive cuts and lacerations to the face caused by the fall through the glass. In fact, the body had been embalmed, and it was in nearly perfect condition.

Eric stared down at a face he had last seen 41 years before. There were no lacerations consistent with damage by glass. On further examination, the forensic team, led by James Starrs of George Washington University, discovered a blow to Olson's temple, on the left side, which caused a fist-size bleed under the otherwise unbroken skin. It could not have occurred, the pathologists agreed, after he went out the window because the velocity of his descent would have caused more extensive trauma. While one team member thought it could have occurred as the head hit the window frame on the way out, Starrs and the others were certain it had been inflicted before that. The conclusion that both Starrs and Eric drew was that someone had knocked Olson out, either while he slept or after a struggle, and then thrown him out the window.

Since the autopsy, Eric has pursued leads to find out who actually carried out "the wet work" on his father. H.P. Albarelli, a writer-researcher with contacts among retired C.I.A. agents in Florida, has found agents who say they know the identity of the men who went into Room 1018A that night in November 1953, supposedly to tip Olson through the window. They were not C.I.A. men, they say, but contract killers associated with the Trafficante mob family hired by the C.I.A. But none of the retired C.I.A. agents, men now in their 70's and 80's, are about to come forward unless they are released from their confidentiality agreements with the agency.

In 1996, Olson approached Manhattan's district attorney, Robert Morgenthau, to see if his office would open a new investigation into the Olson case. Stephen Saracco and Daniel Bibb of Morgenthau's "cold case" unit have deposed Lashbrook in Ojai; they have followed up a few of the hundreds of leads that Eric Olson besieges them with almost daily. But the Manhattan D.A., while probably agreeable to immunity for Albarelli's sources in Florida, has not pursued the confidentiality releases. If you talk to Saracco and Bibb in the Italian restaurant in lower Manhattan where they hang out after-hours, you get the impression that they don't think there's a case to send to a grand jury. If you ask them why they don't go down to Florida to talk to Albarelli's jealously guarded sources, they look at you as if to say, "How do you know these people exist?"

If there isn't enough for the Manhattan D.A. to take to a jury, Eric and his lawyer, Harry Huge, will have to bring a civil suit of their own, claiming that the C.I.A. lied in 1976 when it secured the family's agreement to waive further legal proceedings. Eric says he knows the truth, but it is not the "smoking gun" kind of forensic truth that will force the agency to go to court and be put through the discovery process. And if you lack provable truth, you do not get justice. Without justice, there is no accountability, and without accountability there is no healing, no resolution.

ast autumn, after nearly 25 years of our lives going in different directions, I went to see Eric in Frederick. The family home, a ranch house, is in a decayed state of suspended animation -- seemingly the same carpets, same couches, same dusty jar of Vaseline in the bathroom cabinet that were there the night Frank Olson died. Living there is worst at Thanksgiving, the time of his death.

Eric has taken a break from his work on the collage method, and the huge books of patients' collages now lie shut up in storage nearby. The house is full of drafts of books on collage, as well as books about his father's story that remain unfinished because the story itself lacks an ending. Eric lives on foundation grants, book advances and some help from his brother and others. He spends his days hounding journalists, the Manhattan D.A., anyone who will listen, with a steady stream of calls and e-mail messages from an office just feet away from the same living room, the same chair, the very spot where he was told by Ruwet that his father had "fallen or jumped." That he is convinced that the word was neither "fallen" nor "jumped," but "dropped," does not heal. Indeed, his story makes you wonder about that noble phrase "The truth shall make you free." As it happens, that phrase is inscribed in the entry hall of the C.I.A.'s headquarters.

Eric knows that to charge the most secretive agency of American government with murder is to incur the suspicion that you have become deranged by anger, grief, paranoia, greed or a combination of all four. "Eric is crazy, Eric is obsessed," he says, mimicking his accusers. "Fine. I agree." A maniacal cackle. "But it's not the point. The point is" -- and here his eyes go flat and cold and relentless -- what happened in the damned room."

Just before I left, we went to the graves of his mother, sister and brother-in-law and their child, the place where he wants his father to be buried. When I asked him when the reburial will happen, he paused to think. "When we know what to say," he said finally, looking down at the spare piece of grass beside his mother's grave. "When it is over. When we can do it right."

It takes me a while after I leave Eric to grasp one salient fact that may make resolution difficult. For seven years, his father's bones have lain in a filing cabinet in James Starrs's office. Only the bones -- and not all of them -- remain intact. To get at the truth of what happened to Frank Olson, the pathologists had to rip the skin off his limbs and tear his body apart, macerate it and send it in chunks to various labs for analysis. In the search for truth, Eric had to tear his father's body limb from limb.

The fact is, it will never be possible to bury all of Frank Olson again. Now I understand why, when I asked Eric what he had learned from his 25-year ordeal, he told me that no one should ever dig up his father's body. Now I know why my friend's wild laugh is so full of pain.

Michael Ignatieff is the director of the Carr Center for Human Rights Policy at Harvard University's John F. Kennedy School of Government.

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/04/01/magazine/01OLSON.html?ex=987215818&ei=1&en=7909876590831e64

Copyright 2001

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Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 11:54:28 -0500 From: Sueann Campbell <packrat@texas.net> Subject: Pray for Francie Tierney

Please pray for Francie Tierney, a 37 year old Survivor who called this morning. The Perps are really torturing her and trying to get her to join them.

Sueann

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Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 19:16:04 +0100 From: "Maureen Norman" <m.a.norman@ntlworld.com> Subject: Non Lethal Weapons

I've forwarded a message received from another list with more info on the cruel torture and rubbish we have to put up with. And I've replied that these things are also done to an aging innocent woman who has been subjected to 20 years of their hate campaign.

Maureen

----- Original Message ----- From: Janet M Eaton <xxxxxxxxxxx.ca> To: <GSN@xxxxxxxxx.com> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 3:26 AM Subject: [GSN] NWO Non-Lethal Weapons vs Peaceful Protesters [Covert Action]

Forwarded from mai-not listserv:

Gas me * Stun me * Shoot me * Zap me * Douse me * Drug me * Shut me up Welcome to the Free World !!!

..... draconian powers allow the FBI, CIA, police and armed forces to turn their non-lethal weapons on you ... They are especially keen to take civil liberties if you protest on issues including civil rights, politics, labor issues, environmental issues or if you are the whipping boy of the day, the global trade activist.

In the Cover Feature of the latest Covert Action Quarterly Frank Morales reveals how non-lethal weapons are being used with . sometimes deadly effect against peaceful campaigners !!!

Downleaded from PDF file fyi- janet

Let us begin asking questions of our elected MP's, party leaders, the RCMP and the Quebec Police as to what manner of 'non-lethal weaponry' the Canadian 'paramilitary' forces might intend to use against us in Quebec City - As Canadian citizens and "global citizens' from across the Americas and world expressing our democratic and political right to voice our concerns about the present mode of global capitalism with all its flaws and failures and to propose alternative ideas, strategies and platforms for action - for the future of the earth and humanity - we have the right to gather peacefully in the streets without the threat of bodily harm and harassment and the fear of arrest without just cause. .

And let us demand of our elected representatives that Canada step back from this growing globalizing trend of violent , and anti-democratic paramilitary police state tactics, with equipment and training from the global weapons corporations, being used against "'global citizens" who are highly informed, globally and locally aware, non- violent, participating, politically active, equality- seeking, environmentally concerned, peaceful, progressive and principle- centred citizens of this whole earth !!

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CovertAction Quarterly * Number 70 * April-June 2001 CovertAction Quarterly, the award-winning investigative magazine, is available now. Below is a contents list, with links to summaries of articles on our newly revamped website. http://www.covertactionquarterly.org

...................................... C O V E R F E A T U R E

WELCOME TO THE FREE WORLD Gas me * Stun me * Shoot me * Zap me * Douse me * Drug me * Shut me up

Frank Morales reveals how non-lethal weapons are being used with sometimes deadly effect against peaceful campaigners.

MORE: http://www.covertactionquarterly.org/ca70/contents70.htm

12 x CovertAction O April-June 2001

KILLING ME SOFTLY Forget the PR. Non-lethal weapons can kill. Whether it is CS-induced asthma attacks or a rubber bullet fired at close range, non-lethal action can have lethal effects - and you could be the in-nocent victim.

A November 1999 report on Royal Ulster Constabulary (RUC) policing methods in Northern Ireland noted: "Seventeen people have been killed by rubber or plastic bullets in Northern Ireland, many of whom were subse-quently found not to have been rioting or otherwise engaged in violent behavior directed at the police. Thou-sands of life-altering injuries have been sustained by per-sons wounded by plastic bullets and the RUC has paid out hundreds of thousands of pounds in settlement of compensation claims to such injured persons."

In private moments, even the industry's supporters would seem to acknowledge the dangers.

Zarc International, Inc - "the founder of pepper spray (OC) technology and the world leader in non-lethal weapon innovation" - carries articles on its website suggesting that "non-lethal" is a deadly misnomer.

An April 1997 news alert reproduced on Zarc's web-site notes that the Ottawa-Carleton regional police force suspended use of the beanbag shotgun after a man died shortly after being struck by one of the weapon's projectiles. The man, cutting himself with a knife, was fired upon by a SWAT team after he refused to give up the weapon.

On another page headed "non-lethal weapons," Zarc admits a "variety of problems have been found with Sticky Foam: It can be lethal if sprayed toward the face, causing immediate suffocation. Currently there is no `antidote'."

"Non-lethal weapons" may be a misnomer with a limited life, to be replaced by a less reassuring euphemism.

Prominent on the website of the National Tactical Officers Association - "the only national nonprofit organi-zation in America established by and for SWAT officers to advance the Special Weapons and Tactics Profession" - is the logo of "NTOA silver sponsor" Less Lethal Munitions,"proudly manufactured by Combined Tacti-cal Systems," of Jamestown, Pennsylvania.

Any fatalities are presumably less dead than victims of "more lethal" weapons.

"Northern Ireland: A New Beginning to Policing?" Human Rights Watch Report, vol.11, no.15, November 1999. www.hrw.org Zarc International, Inc. www.zarc.com

"Force agrees to stop using weapon." Blue line: Canada's National Law Enforcement Magazine. April 1997. NTOA website: www.ntoa.org

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WE, THE ENEMY.

Obeying the law? No matter, draconian powers allow the FBI, CIA, police and armed forces to turn their non-lethal weapons on you anyway. They are especially keen to take civil liberties if you protest on issues including civil rights, politics, labor issues, environmental issues or if you are the whipping boy of the day, the global trade activist.

[] GLOBAL TRADE The December 1999 WTO protest in Seattle may have been a bad day for the global money men, but it was a great day for the street weapons pushers. Special forces expertise combined with a non-lethal weap-ons deployment that included liberal use of pepper spray on peaceful protesters - even exhausting supplies at one point - set the standard for police practice in civil protests in the U.S. and abroad (CovertAction 69).

[] BRUTAL BANKERS After the April 2000 protests against the World Bank and IMF in Washington, D.C., the U.S. Attorney's office remarked: "The FBI provided valuable background on the individuals who were intent on committing criminal acts and were able to impart the valuable lessons learned from Seattle." A 2001 review of the World Bank's developing nations' Structural Adjustment Programs - SAPs, loans-with-strings including crippling cuts in public funding, rampant privatization and the adoption of a monetarist national budget - could lead to more hardship in developing nations and consequently more protests. World Bank president James Wolfensohn upped the stakes with allegations that militants were training others in the use of violent tactics, including the use of Molotov cocktails.

[] POLITICAL ACTS Following the 2000 Democratic convention in LA, Jim Lafferty of the National Lawyers Guild accused police of political profiling. "They tar-get organizers. It's a new level of crackdown on dissent." Police fired rubber bullets into an overwhelmingly peaceful crowd. Press reports in January 2001 claimed the FBI has now formed "joint terrorism task forces" in 27 of its 56 divisions, integrating local, state and federal law enforcement agencies.

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IT MAKES YOU SICK A 1998 USAF research report describes the available armory of "anti-personnel" items.

[] "Infrasound/VLF" or very low frequency sound "disorients and frightens" and "interferes with organ func-tions, causing nausea and bowel spasms;" [] "neural Inhibitors. incapacitates personnel, paralyzing synaptic pathways;" [] "hallu-cinogens" or "narcotics that disorient, confuse and incapacitate;" [] "calmatives" or "sedatives delivered through the lungs or skin;" [] "neuroblockers" or "tranquilizer darts and anesthetic bullets;" [] "electronic rifles" or "stun guns" that "debilitate the central ner-vous system;" [] "pulsed high-power microwave (HPM)" that "in-duces confusion, stupor and coma in personnel and animals;" [] "non-penetrating projectiles" or "crushing, deforming, spalling systems, including stinger grenades; [] wax, wood, and plastic bul-lets" whose "effects vary with shapes, materials, and speed;" [] "low energy lasers" including "laser rifles;" and [] "optical munitions" or "flash-bang grenades."

Non-Lethal Weaponry: A Framework for Future Integration, USAF, 1998 10 (see page 10). ------------------------------

Date: Mon, 2-Apr-2001 18:21:07 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: RE: Pray for Francie Tierney

Sueann Campbell wrote: > Please pray for Francie Tierney, a 37 year old > Survivor who called this morning. The Perps > are really torturing her and trying to get her > to join them. > > Sueann

Tell her to go out and buy some anti-static conductive plastic material (should be very cheap and there are some soft and plyable varieties) and protect as much of her skin area as possible with it. Conductive clothing, although more expensive, may also help and is probably more comfortable. Much of these effects rely heavily on keeping the individual very highly electrically charged.

JV

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Date: Mon, 2-Apr-2001 18:43:14 GMT From: <crscrt1@home.com> Subject: RE: Pray for Francie Tierney

Sueann Campbell wrote: > Please pray for Francie Tierney, a 37 year old > Survivor who called this morning. The Perps > are really torturing her and trying to get her > to join them. > > Sueann > Please tell her to use ice packs on her head, back of neck and forehead to create "brain freeze". This has worked for me. I'm trying to find out if it actually works or if the perps are just playing with me. If the perps are talking alot, get a little radio with headphones, put it on and crank it up! DO NOT get a radio with the antenna(?) in the headset or in headphones! Bad mistake! You'll eventually will hear the perps over the music, either talk the headphones off or adjust the volume accordingly. I will pray for her. crscrt1

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Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 16:48:23 EDT From: SMARTNEWS@aol.com Subject: re: Annie McKenna's Presentation on ra/mc and scrapbook therapy

Dear List,

Please find information about this below.

Sincerely, Neil

Annie McKenna's S.M.A.R.T. Presentation 2000, Scrapbook Therapy with pictures, is at http://www.paperclipdolls.com/html/SMART2000.html This may be very triggering for survivors, so please use caution at this site. This site includes pictures of alleged perpetrators.

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Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 17:29:37 EDT From: SMARTNEWS@aol.com Subject: Re: Cheryl Hersha: Response to U. Dowbenko's review of "Secret Weapons."

Dear List,

This is forwarded with permission of the author.

Sincerely, Neil Brick

Please note : I am forwarding this so that one of the authors has a chance to respond to the original review. My forwarding this does not necessarily constitute my endorsement of it.

Response to: "Secret Weapons: Whitewashing CIA Mind Control Atrocities," by Uri Dowbenko.

by Cheryl Hersha.

The following will be a line by line response to Mr. Dowbenko's article.

"Secret Weapons: Whitewashing CIA Mind Control Atrocities," by Uri Dowbenko

"Ted Schwarz is an apologist for CIA mind control atrocities."

From the beginning, Mr. Dowbenko establishes his "alleged" review of our book as a character assassination of Ted Schwarz, choosing to ignore the fact that there were four author/contributors to "Secret Weapons," plus the publisher's editing and comments. One can only wonder why Mr. Dowbenko launches on a personal attack rather than conducting a balanced review of the book. It is apparent Uri Dowbenko hates the book; fine, that is his opinion and he's welcome to it. However, I am deeply angered at the personal attack against Mr. Schwarz in the form of a "book review." Thus, I am compelled to write a balanced response, although, I am personally offended, and, quite frankly, shocked, by the nature and tone of this, "review."

"His book, "Secret Weapons," is chock-full of specious reasoning, flawed logic and outright lies. Its intent is simple - to make CIA mind control programs appear to be "science" rather than illegal Soviet/Nazi-like torture and an outrageous abuse of human rights."

Our book's intent, was to get the truth of the CIA's Mind Control experiments on children under Project MKUltra into the mainstream public by the telling of my sister and I's true story, accompanied by verified facts, the presentation of documentation, and within the frame of historical context and mind set of the Cold War. As a survivor, I have experienced time and time again that the general public, in my opinion, has to be given the truth within a frame of reference they can relate to. Otherwise, they panic and dismiss, deny, and downright refuse to believe what you are saying. Mr. Dowbenko, to my knowledge, does not have the life experience of a survivor who has been through the pain of the re-victimization of the victim. If he had, Mr. Dowbenko might have a better grasp of the "why" behind the way the book was written. I do believe that this is not Uri's personal style of journalism, and that he prefers a more, "in your face" style of writing; therefore, I can understand his disdain for our book's presentation, but cannot understand the vendetta against author Ted Schwarz.

"Schwarz writes like a hack hired by the CIA to deliver a story on mind control atrocities by government perps."

The above statement calls for support. None is given as he launches into the next statement:

"As a CIA spin doctor, Schwarz has definitely earned his blood money."

Mr. Dowbenko, here, writes his opinion as fact. Again, this strong statement mandates supporting facts; where are they? Has Mr. Dowbenko ever spoken with Mr. Schwarz? Does he know, for a fact, that Schwarz is employed by the CIA and receives payment from them? Indeed, he has no supporting evidence at all. I, on the other hand, have known and worked with Ted Schwarz for three years. He was checked and cleared before ever being contacted by the other three of us for the book. For a fact, Ted Schwarz is not employed nor paid by the CIA. He and his family have suffered great financial hardship because of his dedication to getting our story out. Personally, I am grieved, yet grateful beyond measure, for the price he and his family have paid willingly and heroically for me and the other survivors of MKUltra. There's your "blood money" Mr. Dowbenko.

"The book Secret Weapons is well-crafted disinformation. It glosses over egregious human rights abuses, as well as the illegal activities of the CIA."

Examples?

"The cover blurb claims that Schwarz is the "best-selling author of more than 100 books and over 2,000 articles." For the record, Schwarz has written a biography of dead Illuminati Grand Dame Doris Duke, world-class scammer-businessman John DeLorean, and Cuban asset, "Marita.""

For the record, Mr. Schwarz has done exactly what the cover blurb said, and the way this is written leads the reader to believe he has written only the three works cited.

"As a propagandist (the CIA actually has a job called "strategic writer," or writer of disinformation for public consumption), Schwarz muddies the waters of CIA crimes and cover-ups by framing the life-long abuses of Lynn and Cheryl Hersha in the context of "training" to be "female James Bond secret agent."

To quote from the book, "Cheryl, by contrast, was now spending school vacation periods in Washington, D.C. But she was no longer Cheryl when she traveled east. She had become Samantha Gooding, and like the fictional (my emphasis) James Bond, she was licensed to kill." (165) In my opinion, it has already been foundationally established that the foundational programming for MKUltra personalities is trauma-based, full of torture and incomprehendible suffering for the child. Again, this line is giving the reader a familiar frame of reference to set the stage for the next chapter. Nothing more, nothing less, in my opinion. I find this to be an accurate comparison to the personality of Samantha Gooding.

"Schwarz's conceit, in effect, whitewashes the realities of trauma-based conditioning, mind control abuses, and the horrendous sexual and physical abuse abuses endured by the sisters under the guise of "national security.""

Uri Dowbenko is certainly entitled to his opinion of the way the book presents itself; I have no problem of that. However, in the above, he continues his attack on Ted by stating, "Schwarz's conceit," and not the way the book was written, is responsible for the alleged "whitewashing" of government atrocities.

"Rationalizing the continuation of CIA mind control into the present, Schwarz writes, " This is not to say that all other researchers had the appropriate war mentality so pleasing to the CIA elite. Many were simply looking out for the financial welfare of their families.(63)"

This line from p.63 is pulled completely out of context. But even pulled out of context, I cannot see how this rationalizes the continuation of mind control experiment into the present.

"In other words, don't judge them too harshly. Maybe Sid Gottlieb, Jolly West, Allen Dulles, Ewen Cameron and the rest of the CIA criminal elite were just trying to put food on the table."

In other words, Mr. Dowbenko successfully indicts himself by contradictions in his own quotes and writings. The line from p. 63 states, " the appropriate war mentality of the CIA elite," which, as those who are knowledgeable of MKUltra know, Gottlieb, West, Dulles, and Cameron are those elite. Then Uri proceeds by juxtaposing lines to fit his view.

"If he wrote a biography of Nazi mind control monster Josef Mengele, Schwarz would probably point out what a sensitive cultured man Mengele was since he played the violin so well."

This is purely speculative slander based on Uri Dowbenko's continuing diatribe against Mr. Schwarz.

"Schwarz's own words will convict him. "The scientists who designed the [mind control] project to which Cheryl had been assigned probably would have preferred to work in a less offensive manner," writes Schwarz. "Few wanted to hurt children if there was any alternative. That was why there had been feverish activity on the part of the Central Intelligence Agency's Technical Services Staff (TSS) to develop remote control killers. The idea was to use an implant in the brain that could be stimulated to create behaviour. Unwitting adults, unconnected with any of the intelligence agencies could have devices implanted that would stimulate the desired behaviour without the person ever knowing what he or she has done. " (p.56) (As if creating "remote control" killers by implants was less of a crime than traumatizing a child and creating a structured multiple to do the CIA criminals' dirty work.)"

As previously, Uri Dowbenko pulls a paragraph out of context trying to support his biased agenda. There is no mention of the criminal nature of what the researchers were doing in the paragraph from p.56 which he uses for his support that "Schwarz's own words will convict him." Whose words are really convicting in nature, Mr. Dowbenko?

"Schwarz's book is full of zingers. Here's another one: "In the last few years, a number of individuals have come forward to reveal being locked in cages and used as laboratory rats. According to the thinking of those who conducted and approved the original experiments,(my underline added), the relative handful of people whose stories have a basis in fact were not deliberately mistreated any more than they thought Cheryl was being mistreated. She and the others were involved in pure science. All conditions had to be identical for both the primary research subjects - the primates in this case and the comparison control group of children." "Pure science"? Locking up children in cages is "pure science"?"

The above lines from the book, which Uri failed to give a page reference for, is found on pages 93 - 94. Furthermore, we are presented with yet another out-of-context paragraph to fit Mr. Dowbenko's agenda. Put back in context, Schwarz presents the reader with the amoral, unethical " justifications" the researchers played with in their psyches. (See my underline above.) Ted never endorses what they did as "pure science".

"Schwarz's twisted arguments are simply beyond belief. He writes, " in order to have human lab rats for the experiments who were children and thus minors, a form was developed called proxy consent. It was created at a time when Americans were sure that parents knew what was best for their children." Schwarz's serpentine logic is impeccable. "The young are often self-centered, their knowledge limited to little more than home, school, the neighborhood and any religious institution to which their families belong, he continues. "They cannot understand that there are times when it is necessary to think of the greater good of others. [Huh?] They cannot understand the important role a child can play in preserving the future of democracy and the western world as we know it.{Like being programmed assassins?} Only a parent can understand all that, especially a parent who has served in the military and understands the concepts of honor and duty and sacrifice.(89) "Cheryl and Lynn's father Dick was such a parent," Schwarz concludes. " When his children were selected[?] for experimentation, he signed the proxy consent without hesitation." Schwarz doesn't reveal if Cheryl and Lynn Hersha's parents were compromised, black-mailed, or co-opted, or even under mind control themselves. This so-called proxy consent form would still be null and void, despite the legal dressing of an unconscionable and illegal contract.""

The proxy consent form is a fact, not the contrition of author Ted Schwarz. The unbelievable "reasoning" of the experimenters in creating this is also fact, not a creation of ,"Schwarz's serpentine logic," as Mr. Dowbenko contends. Put the paragraph back in context, and read the book. Dick hated my sister and I because we did not inherit Aryan coloring and body composition, and was not under duress at the time of consent, FYI. However, the reader is informed throughout the book that both parents were under mind control at times. By today's standard, the proxy consent is null and void because it was not "informed consent," as the law now requires. Ted is presenting these facts in the historical frame of the Cold War, the American society, and the legal construct of those times. We had animal abuse laws before we had child abuse laws in this nation, and they have only been established in the last two decades, to my knowledge. While the U.S. chose to ignore International Laws and Agreements, it was perfectly within its legal rights with the " Soviet Threat," to do what they did. And, that, Mr. Dowbenko, is a horrifying fact in the history of the United States.

"Schwarz also has to get some internet bashing into his book, since the internet is one of the few uncontrolled venues of information in the world."

Uncontrolled? Free of Big Brother? Private? No disinfo? No purposely crashing someone's computer with "sensitive info" or stealing their files? Do you know how much of this happened to us in the writing of this book? No, you don't, do you?

""The problem is that some people, undoubtedly having troubled pasts, are seeking attention through the Internet," Schwarz exits whining. "Their troubled reasoning was that just having been molested by their fathers was not enough. They had to have been through something more horrible than that. They had to have been victims of religious cults, government experiments, and even pedophiles in the highest offices of the land." (p.323)"

My sister and I were dismayed by these statements, and they do not reflect our beliefs. I apologize to anyone who has been hurt by these lines. Unfortunately, new to the publishing world, we expected to be able to approve the book before publication. Hindsight is 20/20; we now know everything has to be in writing and cannot be expected based on word only. I agree these lines are offensive and are injurious to survivors, and I am working to get them stricken from future printing. In the meantime, I am on record about how my sister and I feel. I am doing many interviews, and plan to speak at future survivor conferences; my apologies will accompany my engagements.

"This sounds like a party line of the False Memory Spindrome Foundation, another notorious CIA front."

While I agree it sounds like FMSF bat guano, I resent our authors being then implicated as the other CIA front.

"But Schwarz is a top notch spin doctor. He even knocks online survivor support groups as much as he disdains the Internet."

Another strong statement along the writer's bias that he throws out there without examples to support his contention. Schwarz never said he " disdained the Internet." ? And as far as the Internet and Survivor groups go, they have been no less than my life savers; the other authors are aware of this. However, it is also truth that many lists have been infiltrated and disrupted, survivors framed and caught who have fled for safety by themselves or with loved ones and subjected to further programming, torture, and legal penalties, and we all have suffered as a community because of these incidents, or individuals. The Internet, while extremely valuable in gaining and disseminating information on Mind Control, is also a tool for "Big Brother" spying and fraught with danger if you believe it is a "free" venue.

"Schwarz then puts in a good word for shock "therapy," trying to explain why the sisters can't remember so well. "This may come about because such memory lapses are generated by the use of electro-convulsive therapy(ECT) which has also been used with some frequency in legitimate psychiatric treatment for many years. It is controversial treatment and the correct amount to be given is difficult to ascertain." "Obviously frying the Hersha sisters' brains to "help" them forget has worked out just fine.""

I am sounding like a broken record, this is no more a "good word" for shock therapy than it is to report that the cow did, in fact, jump over the moon. If frying the Hersha sisters' brains to help us forget worked out just fine, then why the hell did we write the book, Uri? It is NOT obviously fine !

""For an excellent first-hand account of mind-control and recovery, read Paperclip Dolls by Annie McKenna, an intelligently written book about survival in the face of absolute evil (http://www.paperclipdolls.com )"

I absolutely agree with this statement! Annie McKenna is an incredibly smart, gifted, and gutsy lady; she is also my dear friend and co-survivor. I have not been able to read her book yet, because I did not want to " contaminate" my story for those who have tried to rip me apart during interviews, etc... However, is it fair to compare a first-hand account, self-published book, to a collaborative effort in which true accounts are intermingled with research and data from the investigations and views of five people in a mainstream publisher's presentation? No. That is as invalid a comparison as the FMSF's memory experiments on college students are to traumatic memory in children.

"On the other hand, Secret Weapons is a great example of disinformation and a spurious rationale for the U.S. Police State. The book's future is clear. Secret Weapons is a textbook for PsyOps(Psychological Operations) - how to fool people about mind control and get them to pay for it too. Sounds like a twofer for the Agency."

And with that conclusion, Mr. Uri Dowbenko, not only have you completed the public slander and libel of Ted Schwarz, but you have just stabbed this survivor right through the gut. Mr. Dowbenko, we the authors and publisher of Secret Weapons are in no way perfect in what we say and do; however, we have, in fact, put our lives on the line for what we believe in, at personal costs to our health, privacy, computers, families, etc...that you have no idea about. I took the time to respond to your alleged "review" because I find your action to be abhorrent and damaging to the efforts we the children of MKUltra are making publically. You can hate the book, Uri, and that is absolutely fine with me; but to publically assassinate a man who willingly places his life, and all that goes with it, on the line for me? No way! And I find it cowardly that you neither reviewed the book fairly, nor spoke with the man you publically condemn. Really, Mr. Dowbenko, you, of all people; I feel absolutely betrayed all over again. Before you go and point your finger again at people you allege are helping the CIA continue to perpetuate the shroud of secrecy over the past, and the diabolical psychological warfare that is ongoing against innocents, you had better be standing in front of a mirror when you point and accuse.

Cheryl Hersha

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Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 16:30:51 -0700 From: ecotoday@aol.com Cc: mc@topica.com Subject: Review - "EXOPOLITICS"

http://www.ecologynews.com/cuenews17.html

UFO Central Newsletter- http://expage.com/ufocentral

Books to Read - EXOPOLITICS by Alfred Webre Universe Books 2001 ebook available at: http://www.universebooks.com

In times of change new words must be created to describe new paradigms. In recent years terms such as Exobiology, (the study of the possible forms extraterrestrials might have evolved), and Exoworlds, (those types of worlds life may have formed upon), have entered the mainstream consciousness.

Alfred Webre has written a well thought treatise about universal politics and the form it might take, and coined the term 'Exopolitics'. In his new ebook Mr. Webre explores the concept of a multi-dimensional civilization founded upon spiritual and moral principals, one our species is currently un-aware of, and in a sort of 'spiritual quarantine' from.

This book is not a 'channeling' from some cosmic source with StarTrek names. In the best tradition of scientific inquiry, Webre has taken a postulate (multidimensional civilization) and offered a theory based upon observable phenomena. He calls upon the societies of the planet to join in a "Decade of Contact" to explore the possibility of a civilization that spans both our physical cosmos as well as those existing in other dimensions.

Some of Alfred Webre's postulates are that we exist quarantined from Universe Society due to our violence and greed, and that we can rejoin our spiritual family as soon as we can grow beyond this socially childish behavior. He suggests that the UFO presence is a sign that a Universe Society is reaching out to us in an unfolding plan to raise our awareness. He invites governments and individuals alike to accept that challenge and to evolve and grow into a new cosmic awareness, an awareness that will make our species worthy of expansion into, and participation with, a greater reality.

- Tom Cloud inea1111@webtv.net

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Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:11:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Flora Gedenberg <cheerful144@yahoo.com> Subject: I've been under heavy MC Ultra ems waves for at least

Two weeks going on three Tuesday.

They laid the boom on me yesterday so bad that the back of my head felt like it was going to explode. It was so much pressure. I made it out of that just beautifully.

They laid it on me twice today and I'm as fine as one of my wild canaries that the creator made for others to listen to as I walk to keep my body healthy outside.

I didnt' use an ice pack, and I didn't use a magnetic anything and I mean that I was under siege and still am and I'm as fine as If I had just gotten up from a long rest? Why? I can't tell you why, because you wont' let me, it's against your rules.

You all make me laugh my guts out. I dont' know who's for real and who isn't or if most of you are just a lower echalaun for finding out anything at all that stops this crap so you can quelch it.

It's hillarious. My formula works fine, I've been under siege for going on three weeks, I'm happy and calm and with quite joy, withstanding all that is comming down, and I know you know it's a load too.

You make me laugh, in sheer amazement. you all will do anything say anything spend any money, go to any lengths to "help yourself" and when I send you somehting as simple as the 12 steps of A.A. and useing a higher power you wont' even put it up on the board, as if I don't count. I mean I'm a living proof that is works, and you know it too.

I've been to Viet Naum, I've been in shit up to my ears litterally, I've seen things that would terrify God, and you are dead wrong if you think for one minute that I'd lie to any one at all about this, to anyone.

I'm having a pressure on the top of my head right now, I wouldn't doubt if they put me in an annurism, but you idiots or you poor souls or what ever you want to call it, This works for me, and if I ever lied about something as deadly and as devastating and as evil as mind control is I'd kill myself. I would never lie over this kind of thing not for any reason.

I feel sorry for you and I laugh in plain pitty, that I can't tell you how I'm doing it but you're all busting your buts to learn how to do it any other way then Trust a Higher Power of your choice, I didn't even say what higher power?.

I sound like a reasonable person to me? I dont' come yelling and screaming you're all going to hell, that's for you to decide when and if you ever try a higher power? I don't give a damn what higher power you use if you're afraid of my higher power. I hate ranters and ravers and people who use My Higher power's name and mercies like a water moccasin?

You make me laugh this is so incredibly unbelieveable?

Now I didn't say religion which I hate with a purple passion so you figure out what I said and why I said it. yes Su I wil pray.

Over and out with a hearty ha ha.......what a riot this life is so full of unbeliveable circumstances if I hadn't of lived it myself I'd say we were all crazy?

In my gratitude for a working higher power, who I know and I wont' tell you cause I don't dare say, or I can't say how I'm getting relief?...? May I say Good Lord!!!! Is this Russia? Or China? Ha? ha? Oh My word, I tell you this is so ironic it I can't help it I'm laughing it's sad but it's your board. ah

But then I sigh; and, with a piece of scripture, Tell them that God bids us do good for evil: And thus I clothe my naked villany With old odd & ends stolen out of holy writ; And seem a saint, when most I play the devil. - Richard III, Act 1 Scene 3 .

tada Flora

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Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 20:23:23 -0500 From: Sueann Campbell <packrat@texas.net> Subject: Did anyone?

Did anyone watch television sunday nite? I saw a program on tv which explained that electronic signals were responsible for:

feelings of well being exlariation feelings of floating visions of going thru a tunnel prophecy etc, I looked on the schedule today and Saturday's schedule is available but Sunday's is not! Go figure! http://www.tvguide.com/listings/setup/Localize.asp Type in your zipcode, select cable, Time Warner, and see if you can find anything! This has never happened before! Sueann

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Date: Tue, 3-Apr-2001 01:39:55 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: RE: I've been under heavy MC Ultra ems waves for at least

Have another look at the 7th, and maybe re-read the 12th Tradition a couple of times.

JV

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Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 19:09:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Flora Gedenberg <cheerful144@yahoo.com> Subject: JV suggests to Flora and her reply is:

JV wrote sarcastically because I offended his safe spot on earth or where ever he plans on residing: > Have another look at the 7th, and maybe re-read the > 12th Tradition a > couple of times. > > JV

My Dear Authority on A.A. and it's traditions, You are not going to frighten or intimadate me at all what so ever. 7 of the 12 steps of A.A. are about or using a higher power, and honey bun? I've earned my right to work my program and live my life anyway I want to.

These are suggested steps and suggested traditions? Honey.................... Flora

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Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 19:23:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Flora Gedenberg <cheerful144@yahoo.com> Subject: This is the last of this as far as I'm concerned I'm here for survivors

Jv? This is it, I have no quarrel with you, but it does say in the big book and the winners will tell you in a moment in a flash.........We do not appologize for using the word God. Now get off the A.A. trip.

I'm using the steps and the traditions and the Higher power the only way I know how, and I'm not aruging religion, and I don't dare say who my higher power is out of respect for the rules.

This program of mine that you are so happy to help me live saved my life about how many days are in 37 years? And how many minutes are in an hour and how many hours in a day? And how many days in a month and so on.

You may have a superb way of knowing and using A.A. But dear heart lets get off the big shot shit and get down to what helps me stay sane when they are hammering my brains out?

Now this ought to end our discussion of who's ass is the blackest I don't give one whit how you work your program at all, I'm not able to know every single thought and moment of your life, but I do know this stuff saved my life, and my sanity over and over again, and it wasn't from church at all. I'm an alcoholic with low self asteem and can't tolerate the goody goody's who will have a caniption fit if your hair isn't combed when you've just come in from eating shit from a bowl because someone ordered you to and you couldnt' do one thing about it because of mind control.

Any more questions as long as it's with respect is fine, but don't tell me how to work my program it's saved my ass and life and sanity thousands of times?

Flora

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Date: Tue, 3-Apr-2001 05:06:33 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: RE: This is the last of this as far as I'm concerned I'm here for surviv

Flora Gedenberg wrote: > Jv? This is it, I have no quarrel with you, but it > does say in the big book and the winners will tell you > in a moment in a flash.........We do not appologize > for using the word God. Now get off the A.A. trip. > > I'm using the steps and the traditions and the Higher > power the only way I know how, and I'm not aruging > religion, and I don't dare say who my higher power is > out of respect for the rules. >

Live and let live

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Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 03:06:17 -0700 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> Subject: More HAARP misinformation

Yet more HAARP misinformation tonight from Dr. Nick Begich (his doctorate is in complementary medicine, not physics, as is evident by his ignorance of basic physics) on the Art Bell show. Begich said:

- You can bounce HAARP ELF crowd-control signals off the ionosphere and localize their effects.

No evidence provided. ELF signals cannot be easily localized and thus would not be effective for this purpose. In addition, there's no evidence this has been ever done by HAARP.

- An infrasonic signal (which in fact can create hysteria and panic in a crowd) can be carried on radio broadcasts and was used to defeat Iraqi troops in the Gulf War. A mind-control signal can be carried on power lines, radio, TVs, etc. and this was used in the Gulf War and also to deter shopping in Japan.

Begich presents two conflicting explanations for the Gulf War defeat of troops and further confuses various technologies. There's no way for infrasonic modulation of radio signals to be heard by listeners because radios and conventional loudspeakers don't have the capability of passing infrasound (sound under 20 Hz) and the alleged mind control of Iraqi soldiers can be more logically explained as a standard Army psyop (the bogus mystery mind control signal explanation would be a perfect Army disinformation tactic). As for the Japanese shopping experiment, this was allegedly a result of subliminal voices on store sound systems, which has nothing to do with infrasound or mind-control signals on power lines, etc.

Regarding the signal of power lines, etc., he's apparently referring to his previous statement on Coast To Coast on 1/25/01: "A psychotronic generator which produces a powerful electromagnetic emination capable of being sent through telephone lines, television, radio networks,supply pipes,and incandescent lamps. This signal would manipulate the behavior of those in contact with the signal." As I stated on 1/26/2001, no evidence or scientific citations are provided, nor is the vague buzz word "psychotronic" defined. He's apparently referring to Timothy L. Thomas, The Mind Has No Firewall from Parameters, Spring 1998, pp. 84-92, see www.angelfire.com/or/mctrl/thomas.html , which appears to be Army disinformation unsupported by any scientific references on this point.

- The loss of satellite and microwave systems signals in Pahrump was probably caused by an EMP.

Wrong. EMP signals burn out equipment permanently. These systems came back on after a temporary outage. A more logical explanation is swamping of receiver circuits by military broadband microwave experiments. The Art Bell and Begich explanations would serve as a perfect cover story for such an operation.

- HAARP brain entrainment can causes apathy in the population and influence political events.

No evidence was presented.

- The key locks stopped working in Bremerton were caused by an EMP.

Again wrong. EMP burns out systems permanently (they started working again).

- Schumann resonance is rising (this was an Art Bell statement based on nonsense from Gregg Braden).

Wrong. For scientific measurements, see the UC Berkeley (not UCLA, as stated by Begich) site at http://quake.geo.berkeley.edu/ncedc/em.intro.html.

- Earthquakes can be triggered by electromagnetic energy at the Schumann resonance frequency (7.8 Hz). Tesla's experiment in vibrating buildings in Manhattan proved that.

Wrong. The hundreds of thunderstorms happening around the Earth right now are constantly creating 7.8 Hz signals with no known effect and this would be a perfect disinformation cover for what could be a real problem: signals a ULF frequencies (below 3 Hz). Also, Begich doesn't understand the difference between electromagnetic and mechanical energy (Tesla's experiment used a mechanical vibrator to shake buildings in lower Manhattan and had nothing to do with electromagnetic energy).

- Panic attacks in the population could be caused by EM pulsing and this might explain the current rash of teenage shootings and other mischief. Repeated exposure to EM signals lowers the threshold for their effects.

No evidence provided and this explanation is unlikely. The second sentence is true (it's called electrical hypersensitivity) but more likely due to exposure to household appliances and transmitters, not some conspiracy intended to make the masses insane. Again, this nonsense would serve as a perfect disinformation cover for damaging effects on people caused by power, broadcast and wireless industries, pharmaceuticals (ritalin, etc.) and media desensitization.

Note that I am not saying that Begich and Bell are guilty of disinformation; I'm only pointing out that their misinformation could have that effect, possibly the result of standard deliberate disinformation operations that take advantage of media persons lacking a solid grounding in science and technology.

Speaking of disinformation, you can tune in Friday for the latest nonsense from Ed "Head Games" Dames.

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Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:24:33 EDT From: CloudRider@aol.com Subject: Re: FW: [MC] More HAARP misinformation

In a message dated 4/3/01 6:21:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, west@sonic.net writes:

> Note that I am not saying that Begich and Bell are guilty of disinformation; > I'm only pointing out that their misinformation could have that effect, > possibly the result of standard deliberate disinformation operations that > take advantage of media persons lacking a solid grounding in science and > technology. > > Speaking of disinformation, you can tune in Friday for the latest nonsense > from Ed "Head Games" Dames.

Actually, Wes, you CAN and probably SHOULD say that Ol' Nick and Art are proselytizing misinformation bordering on intentional disinformation. The key issue is "should they know better." We assume they're reasonably intelligent and DO know better, hence... what they're doing is intentional. The only "mystery" is WHY? Is it for profit, sheer orneryness or a love of the spotlight? Or is it "contract disinfo" for a government-sponsored or (as is more likely) a subcontracted defense contractor as part of a larger counterintelligence program to maintain a "social substrate" to be "growth medium" (like a political Petri dish, where viruses and bacteria are grown) for various "conspiracies du jour," depending on the needs of the (intelligence) service.

Or maybe not.

Follow the $$$.

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Date: Tue, 3-Apr-2001 17:36:36 GMT From: M. F. Abernathy <abemarf@aol.com> Subject: RE: More HAARP misinformation

Wes Thomas wrote:

A mind-control signal can be carried on power lines, > radio, TVs, etc. and this was used in the Gulf War and also to deter > shopping in Japan. "Deter shopping" ? I think you meant deter shoplifting...

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Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 12:46:56 -0500 From: Skywave News Service <skywave@telepath.com> Subject: Re: FW: [MC] More HAARP misinformation

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Greetings cloudrider@aol.com, it could be that the real puppet masters use them to bring on the chaos that they need to start the round-up.

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Date: Tue, 3-Apr-2001 23:25:40 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: Letter

Thanks to J.V & R.B. and Raven for bringing this to my attention. Here was my response. I tried to include Canadian and U.K. concerns as well.

H. Michael Sweeney

I write to the honorable legislative committee *** as a friend of the State and of all its citizens, volunteering the material contained herein as an expert witness on electronic weapon, electronic harassment and related technologies of political control. It is hoped that this material will be entered into the public record at your hearings and become useful in your final determinations. I remain at your disposal should you require any additional information or advice on topic. For example, should you wish to hear about specific symptoms or the methods in detection of electronic attacks and appropriate defensive tactics, or how to establish and operate an investigative field unit, I would be prepared to contribute further.

My background may help you better appreciate both the methodology and bonifides of my presentation. As an author published on topic, I have had over 15 hours of national radio talk show interviews dealing with such issues. Some of my work has been used as part of the curriculum by professors of journalism and of political science. For more than ten years I have been involved in investigative research of various crimes of the intelligence community, military, law enforcement, and government agencies. As a logical result, I have gone head to head with various intelligence agencies, including many within the U.S. military and operatives of at least two foreign powers, both allies to the United States. My first book, The Professional Paranoid, was a kind of how-to self-defense manual for others who might themselves confront powerful adversaries. As such it barely scratched the surface of electronic weapons and mind control topics. Yet since its release, nearly 80% of the many people who contact me almost daily seeking my help are people who are victims of these technologies. It was immediately clear to me that I had missed the mark and had failed to address the needs of those suffering far greater problems than I had anticipated or personally experienced. I set out to make amends with a second work, now nearing publication, which deals exclusively with these technologies: what they are, how to detect them, how to defeat them. This work was further aided by experience gained in the computer and supercomputer industries, where I was involved at both the hardware and software side of things. While there, I specifically conducted a seminar in Washington D.C. on signal processing software before the very persons in government who subvert that technology into operational electronic weapons: NSA, CIA, assorted military intelligence and DOD types, research laboratory and think tank scientists, and military contractors.

Because of my knowledge on topic, I must protest at the committees choice of language in the bill with respect to the first sentence, which clearly speaks to control of these weapons only in the hands of the public by means of the phrase 'no person'. This is to miss the entire purpose and intent of these weapons, and to fail to address the virtually sole possessor and users of the worst of the technology, which is government itself. The public does not need this legislation to protect itself form itself, but from its own government. Language must specifically and clearly include government agencies and government personnel of all manner, Federal, State, and local. I also wonder why the words 'operate' or 'employ', or similar, is not included, as if it would be acceptable to operate equipment one does not personally own, such as might be the case for a government agent or law enforcement officer. Does the committee contend or believe, imply or accept the notion that government should have the authority to use weapons of political control on its own citizens? By what moral or legal authority should any institution be allowed to covertly or overtly attack the physiological, mental, and spiritual well-being of its citizens? The answer to the later question is none. The answer to the former question is in your hands, as is the choice of earning for yourselves and you governmental body the label of oppressive dictators, or worse.

In like manner, your definition of the weapons is far too simple and narrow to avoid legalistic confusions. For example, the very same technology which is found in radar guns and FLIR can be used as a weapon of political control or harassment by mere abuse thereof. How will you protect against such abuses? How will anyone be able to determine when the technology and application are legal and appropriate and when they are abusive and invasive? The victim is not protected if the burden of proof rests on such simplistic language. The abuser, especially if governmentally authorized to access such technologies for normal uses, is not at risk where such loopholes exist. Your language must define and articulate to the complexities of the matter, which are illustrated by the technology reviewed in this document. Further, your legislation makes no provision for detection and enforcement. Do you imagine that the local police will simply arrest someone because a neighbor claims to have the symptoms of attack? Without detection and enforcement, you have mere lip service, and it becomes clearer that the intent of the legislation is not to protect the people from the weapons, but to protect the establishment from the people.

Assuming you are not dictators, I am compelled to offer you this warning: Do not underestimate the seriousness and difficulty of the task before you or the dangers inherent in it. Virtually 100% of the technology covered by your legislation, as shown in this document, will have originated in covert military and intelligence agency research projects. What you need to keep in mind, is that any weapons developed by such research must necessarily be tested. Both the military and intelligence community have a long history of illegally testing their concepts and devices, chemicals and drugs, biological agents and pathogens, radioactive materials and weapons of all descriptions, including electronic weapons and related mind control technologies on unwitting American citizens without consent. I propose to you that the reason you meet here today is only because such testing is so wide spread as to have drawn public attention through the tell-tale symptoms thereof. Thus, clearly, your mission to protect the citizens from this unholy, inhumane, and illegal testing and any subsequent direct application as political control tool... and ladies and gentlemen, I assure you that political control is exactly what the topic is all about... your efforts puts you squarely at odds with some of the most powerful branches and individuals of the Federal Government. Therefore, it behooves you to study well, for you yourselves may become targets of this technology before the battle is done. You will certainly, if not already so, become targets of electronic surveillance if you do not take appropriate counterintelligence measures.

My opening statement, if I were before you in person, would be something like this: It is not a matter of if such technology exists. It is not a matter of if it does what is claimed. It is not a matter of if it has been or is being tested and used by military and intelligence community players or others on citizens at large. These things I already know for a fact to be true, having worked with many, many people from all over the world, mostly in Canada, the U.S., and the U.K., who have been victimized by this technology. This includes persons of noted and respected caliber, such as Catherine Austin Fitts, former undersecretary of HUD under President Bush, who upon discovering billions of dollars missing from HUD, suddenly found herself under electronic attack in what was undoubtedly an attempt to make her seem insane, if not deliberately drive her insane. I have in more recent times myself gone head to head with those who use this technology, and I have researched it and associated myself with as many resources as I could to understand it as fully as is possible, given its covert nature. I assure you that these questions are already well answered, and that answer is a resounding 'yes' on all counts. Yes, the technology exists. Yes, it works, And yes, it is in use today against everyday people, people others would have you believe to be crazy for having reported the symptoms.

No, the primary question is this: Is there anyone in our national or state governments who will stand up for the Constitution, support the Bill of Rights, live by the morally correct principles of humanity and of God, and resist the evil which stares you now squarely in the face... and even dares you to do something about it? If there is not, we are thus doomed to a fascist police state, and no one, especially not you members of government, will be safe and secure from the application of these weapons of political control. I underscore once more: the whole purpose of these technologies is absolute political control. And once deployed in large scale for such a purpose, who among the nation's citizens will need to be controlled more than those who make the laws? Reflect on that for a moment: when these technologies are perfected, mass produced, and ready for operational deployment, the first likely candidates will be you, the lawmakers of the land.

What will you do here and now to defend yourselves and those you are sworn to serve? The challenge before your committee and, ultimately, for your entire legislative body, is not only formidable, but it is absolutely pivotal to determining the future of this nation. Outside of the European Parliament, which has already explored aspects of electronic weapons and non-lethal technologies, all of which they define as political control technology, no one has dared confront the government of the United States and members of the military and intelligence community for rushing head long into development of endless variants of sinister hi-tech toys. Until one empowered sector of our own society, such as yourselves, makes an official protest and stand against this growing draconian onslaught, those things for which our nations stands come closer and closer to being silently crushed within a velvet totalitarian glove. Without such understanding... without laws to protect citizens from the dangers involved... and without any means of enforcing those laws... political control will be assured. The price for such control will be dear. It will be the surrender of that thing godly men call 'free will', and which the patriot calls 'freedom and the pursuit of happiness.' That price is the admittance fee of the New World Order.

Having embarked upon this path, it is now your duty to the people of your state, and to the nation and world beyond, to deal fairly, openly, swiftly, and decisively in this matter. Do not be swayed to inaction or diluted action by the timid among you who may propose that the all-too-easily proclaimed umbrella of national security and the works it protect are at risk should you oppose these weapons. Indeed, the opposite is true, as all true national security will be lost if you do not oppose them. This I urge of you in the name of humanity, and in the name of everything this nation stands for, and in service to the will of God who gave us all free will in the first place. But I also warn you that to make an official legislative action against these technologies will mean nothing if intended to be merely a political statement. Any such legislation must have teeth. It should include extremely stiff penalties and a means of thorough investigation and enforcement if there is to be any hope of having actual impact. Those who currently hold and use such technology will not be intimidated by anything less, for they have unlimited funds and legions of blindly obedient technicians who know their well-connected employers will pull strings to rescue them out of any minor difficulties if caught.

May I propose three key concepts or points which should be a part of your deliberations. The first is that any such legislation should be broadened to cover most, if not all non-lethal weapons, not just electronic. The very same people who developed electronic weapons were responsible for the development of other non-lethal weapons, and for the same unsavory reason: political control. All such weapons further have the same attendant risks to life and liberty and lend themselves to the same abuses and excessive draconian applications. Perhaps just as important, a review of all such weapons makes the relationship between the weapon, the intended use, and the greater political control strategy which drove its development that much easier to grasp. In support of this notion, my report herein addresses the full spectrum of non-lethal weapons, the greater portion of which are, perhaps surprisingly, the more hi-tech electronic variety.

The second point I would like to make is that your considerations and final findings must include and provide for public awareness. Only by educating the citizens of the realities of the existence and use of these technologies, can your efforts be well served. If the citizens do not understand the technology and the symptoms it generates, they cannot report the crime or well defend against it. In like manner, your law enforcement, the legal system, media, and the professional communities must also be educated, or the victims will have no place to turn without being labeled as insane. Of even more value, such promotion and education will, more than any threat of punishments, deter actual use of the technology in the first place. All such technology is currently used in an extremely covert manner. The last thing an attacker using electronic weapons wants, is to be discovered. Such discovery puts not just the mission at risk, but also puts at risk the entire infrastructure of the non-lethal weapons industry, and their leadership both in and out of government. Education will, in my opinion, prove to be your best weapon, in the end. But education in and of itself does not provide an adequate deterrence, because unless an attack can be proven, it is merely an accusation which, due to the sophisticated nature of the attack, can be largely ignored.

Therefore, the third and final point, perhaps the most important, is that if you are to have any true success in this matter, you must necessarily include funding for the exotic equipment required to detect and analyze the tell-tale electromagnetic fields, energy bursts, and radio-frequency signatures which are the calling cards of these technologies. In fact, I remind you, it is precisely the output of these detectable indicators which makes this matter one of general concern to the population at large. The leakage, overshoot, and reflection of these signals, energies, and fields created by these weapons have a great potential for harmful mental and physiological effects on all citizens within a given radius of the intended principle target under attack. The collateral damage to these citizens is not now understood, nor can it be so understood until the actual weapons are captured and tested by independent laboratories. Even the most conservative estimates talk about dire health consequences associated with these weapons. If a particular cell phone can be found by scientists to cause a brain tumor, then what must we face when the signal strengths are many hundreds or even thousands of times stronger, and deliberately designed to cause physiological and mental effects?

If you fund the needed equipment, you will need to further fund appropriate training of technicians on how to use the equipment, as well as in general procedures and skills in the area of covert counterintelligence operations and general law enforcement procedures. This is exactly what will be required in order to be successful against those who use electronic weapons, and no less. I would propose a joint-task force of specialists in the areas of law, communications, signal processing, electronics, bioethics, medicine, chemistry, psychology, counterintelligence, military, and law enforcement be created and managed by a carefully picked oversight body. In the absence of creating a new bureaucracy, I would suggest that such responsibility might best belong to any existing state environmental agency as opposed to general law enforcement. One reason I say this, and it is intended as a general warning concerning the selection of specialist staffing as well, is that I can virtually guarantee that law enforcement of your state and major cities has already been infiltrated by members of the intelligence community, or would immediately so become upon passage of any such legislation. For this reason, the easiest way to assure failure of any mandate against electronic weapons is to simply hand responsibility for it over to law enforcement. Please ask for more information if you doubt that claim.

Keep in mind that many of the more exotic technologies are hardly used for their ultimate intended purposes at this time, but more typically used only in testing on unwitting guinea pigs called citizens at large, generally from among the underclass, those persons least likely to be able to defend themselves or obtain the expensive helps required. Therefore, most victims are targeted not because of any actual political or intelligence value, but because of the value in learning how the technology works and how to best apply it without getting caught. Many such victims will undoubtedly stand before you to offer testimony, and I beg of you not only to solicit for such witnesses, but to open your considerations to citizens beyond your state borders, that you may increase your chance at hearing the full truth. Indeed, open your doors to Canadians, as well, for these weapons do not respect our national borders, and are freely exported for testing and use abroad. And for every brave soul who dares stand before you in tortured fear of what will happen to them for their bravery, and an even greater fear of what will happen to them if they do not seek your help, there are likely tens of thousands of other on the continent which cannot or dare not testify. Regarding what they say, may I further advise three points.

Regardless of how wild or bizarre may be the claims offered in such testimony, there will be three absolute facts I can promise you to be true regarding such testimony: 1) among those testifying, you will hear persons who are: a) legitimate victims of the technology and who are telling you the truth exactly as their ability to grasp and express it allows; b) persons who are delusional and falsely believe they are victims, telling you of imagined things which have little or no basis in fact; and c) intelligence community plants pretending to be victims in order to provide you with deliberate disinformation and, largely, to discredit the general value of all such testimony; 2) It will be impossible for you, short of elaborate investigation and expenditures of large sums of money, to make any useful determination of which category a given testimony falls within; 3) in light of the aforementioned difficulties, you should logically come away highly incredulous and doubting of the value of the entire collective of testimony, were it to stand alone. This phenomenon is a prime example of one of the chief purposes of political control technology, that of destroying the credibility of victims who dare tell others of their experiences. Think upon that, for a moment. Electronic weapons are designed to conceal their own use by making the victim seem incredulous. The testimony you hear will prove that it works exactly as intended.

In light of these facts, I have attempted to insure their testimony does not stand-alone. I herein provide some meager proofs in the form of the forgoing technology review. A much more substantial body of such evidence is possible should it be required, which is why I have tried to include more valuable proofs in the form of references which are by and large easily obtained. This includes articles and scientific papers as well as actual patents on the technology itself. Patents are used only when other experts have already connected the technology to the claimed weapon. A reservoir of additional patents which could have been used, except for space and redundancy they represent, are included at report end. But understand that for reasons of national security, many more patents exist which were unavailable. Also realize patent descriptions need not sound like weapons, partly as a natural result of the patent application process, and partly by design. Too, like many inventions intended for good, some patents having no apparent weapon's application have been subverted to evil ends by someone who saw the potential and subverted the technology.

In point of fact, the great bulk of evidential resources come from military documents, a matter which is deeply troubling to all right-thinking individuals because it paints a picture not of a military set on defending the United States from enemies who would threaten it, but a military which is the threat itself. In my own research of these matters and proofs, I have become thoroughly disgusted with not only the obviously morally corrupt military leadership of our nation, but also, of the lack of proper Congressional and Presidential oversight. By the following materials, may you come to similar conclusions, and may you have the fortitude and resolve to do something about it, which is something we citizens cannot of our own accord achieve short of armed revolution. Please do not leave this the only remaining option for Americans, or that may be exactly what the next generations will need consider.

As earlier mentioned, the newly formed European Parliament is giving challenge to NATO, individual governments, foreign allies (the United States chiefly), and the unification process itself over several key human rights issues. These issues do specifically include electronic and non-lethal weapons of political control. Before you, only in Europe, it seems, was anyone willing to stand up to these emerging technologies and ask the tough but morally correct questions about how they will be used, who will use them, to what purpose, and if they should be used at all - the same questions now before you. Political activist and researcher, Dr. Nick Begich, probably knows as much about political control technologies as anyone, and has worked closely with the European Parliament as expert in science, politics, and education. His newest book, Earth Rising is a wealth of information on topic, and has contributed greatly to my own knowledge. Were you to consider calling me to testify personally, I would also urge you to call him to speak.

Before discussing the hi-tech toys available right now to your local police, the military, and intelligence community players - as well as to corporate thugs, techno-terrorists, and secret societies, we need to appreciate some basic concept definitions. In the process will be gained insight into the thinking and motives of our trusted shepards, the very governmental authorities who invent and apply these weapons, and who daily scheme against their flock. In organizing the material, the bold text descriptions are underlined to indicate official terminology, the remaining being popularized names used by the public or made up by myself for convenience. I have included a 'reality' check to help assess the current threat-level posed by the technology, as well as a 'spin' description used or likely to be used by government and media to explain the technology away to prevent the public from being alarmed - or used by me in irresistible attack of the dark forces which created and conceals the problem at hand.

It was perhaps author Aldus Huxley, who put first expressed concerns about political control technology into words within the fictional construct of Brave New World and Brave New World Revisited, Orwellian nightmares not unlike 1984. Based on 1958 technology, Huxley projected ahead a mere 40 years to describe exactly the kind of technology and social consequence which lays at the heart of our focus, here. In point of fact, I hope to illustrate, we are well ahead of his projections. Welcome to the New World Order. Sheep, do not be alarmed at the slaughter of your fellow sheep. As it is for their own good, so will it be for you.

Sincerely,

H. Michael Sweeney

The following material is a CONDENSED version of a much larger collection - I simply ran out of time.

The Concepts:

War: A military conflict aimed at forcing a desired degree of political control upon an enemy by force of arms.

RMA: Revolution in Military Affairs. Changes in technology have impacted so drastically in military capabilities and strategies that warfare itself, as well as the mission and role of military must be redefined forever. The reality - this term was introduced into military dialog in recent years to describe an observable process taking place over the last few decades, all of which is the root cause of many technologies discussed in this document. The spin - strategic thinking needs to adjust to the modernization and downsizing of the military.

MOOTW: Military Operations Other Than War. Any military operation against a designated objective short of declared war, to include covert or overt insertion or extraction of forces or resources into or from denied territories; counter-terrorism and counter-drug surveillance, intercept, or search and destroy missions; operations in assistance to civilian authorities of a humanitarian or peace keeping nature. The reality - only alluded to in the expression 'peace keeping nature', is a polarization is taking place within the military spending between hi-tech strategic defense and offense weapon systems such as the ABM system and primary weapon system platforms such as aircraft and ships, and a different kind of hi-tech which is in support of MOOTW objectives in support of maintaining political control, such as those which follow. The spin - expanded military role in peacekeeping operations.

Serial War: The old way of warfare. Military objectives are defined in the order of step-wise importance, typically dependent on obtaining control of territory and destruction of enemy forces - military units are positioned; the first objective is taken; units are repositioned and then the next objective taken; and in like manner the next, until victory is achieved. It is a time-line oriented cause and effect exercise of advances and retreats based on outcome. The spin - not required.

Parallel War: The new way of warfare. Multiple objectives can be assigned to various technology-based weapon systems without requirement for prior control of territory or destruction of enemy forces. The reality - in place now. The Gulf War and Bosnia conflict represent the first use of parallel warfare, which is why there was very little traditional military engagement. By means revealed in almost all of the other definitions found here, an enemy's infrastructure and resources, military and otherwise, can be attacked with or without the use of traditional military forces, since the enemy's military forces can become almost irrelevant to the matter. The spin - well-coordinated and well planned military campaign.

Invisible War: The ability to wage an unknown or covert war which inflicts real damage to the infrastructure, capabilities and political health of an enemy state without destruction of physical property or loss of lives, except by seemingly unrelated cause, and without any detection of the true means or source of destruction. The reality - in place right now as detailed in this document. No spin - this term is not for public consumption (or NFPC, as used henceforth.)

Ecco War: The ability to wage war using manipulation of ecological forces and resources of nature as a weapon system. This can mean engineering of biological agents and pathogens, the deliberate outright destruction of natural resources, or working to destroy or alter the balance of the various elements of nature and ecology. The reality - established historical fact: defoliation in Vietnam, oil well heads set aflame in Kuwait, and much worse by technologies described herein, which can even cause storms and earthquakes. No spin unless to criticize an enemy's application thereof (see Ecco-terrorism, next) - NFPC.

Ecco-terrorism: What our side calls it when another party wages ecco war, and more universally, actual terrorism based on like attack strategies by terrorist groups, something thankfully not yet known in history. The reality and the spin are inherent in the definition itself.

Biowarfare: An early form and distinctly unique variant of eco war which existed before that term was coined. Use of biological agents, pathogens and toxins to kill the enemy. Illegal under all existing conventions and treaties. The reality - in place now. The United States government has vowed not to be the first to use biological weapons, but we have taken all the steps necessary obtain and stockpile the very deadliest biological weapons imaginable. The spin - deterrence is the best defense. Remember that when you read about some of the other warfare technologies herein - technologies that only we seem to possess at this time.

Bioethnic War: An eco war against a specific race or species. The reality - technology is developed but not yet deployed. The state-of-the-art in genetic engineering now supports the development of biological agents and pathogens which can be designed to attack a specific race or species (such as a race of people, strain of wheat, or variety of fish) to cause any form of deformity, deficiency, infirmity, or even its extinction. No spin - NFPC.

Weather War: A particular kind of eco war based on weather-control technology. The reality - in place now, in Alaska, undergoing testing. The U.S.A.F. High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) involves advanced hi-tech environmental and energy research, communications, and defensive/offensive weapons applications based on use of VHF (very high radio frequency) to manipulate the earth's ionosphere to project ELF (extremely low radio frequency) signals. Capabilities to be tested include the ability to manipulate weather in dramatic ways, including diversion of the jet stream, creation of killer storm systems, floods, draughts, famines, and initiating earthquakes of almost any magnitude. The spin (for HAARP) - scientific study of the ionosphere and communications research which may provide weapon system support applications.

Directed Energy Warfare (DEW): Any combination of weapon technology based on radiated lasers, particle beams, sound waves, electromagnetic fields or beams, etc. The reality - the technologies are developed and await only proper weapon platform designs according to an article in the December 1999 issue of Journal of Electronic Defense. The spin - NFPC at this time.

Beam Wars: Another term for warfare based on directed energy.

INFOwar: Information Warfare, which is the ability to assure the integrity, access, and use of your own digital informational resources while at the same time working to infiltrate, capture or destroy an enemy's like resources. This is all about signal interception, hacking, viruses, and Internet, network, hardware, software, staff and facility security. The reality - in place now. Special INFOwarrior units exist in every branch of the military and branch of the Department of Justice. It can be documented that they are unofficially and routinely used offensively against foreign nations and domestically and as a weapon of political control against citizens. I can offer personal testimony as victim of such attacks. The spin - generally not NFPC, except to promote the need for 'Web police' and increased Web security (which generally translates into undisclosed loss of privacy and rights to the citizen.)

Psychotronic War: Use of electronic and/or chemical inducements to alter the emotional and mental state of the enemy. May include disinformational or propaganda programs. Pure and simple, we are talking about mind control. The reality - in place now, as seen in the technology definitions which follow. Silent Sound technology was used in the Gulf War to insure massive surrenders by the Iraqi, for instance, and in Bosnia to sway elections (see Command Solo). No spin - NFPC.

People's War: A term invented to apply to an (apparently expected) uprising of the people (to specifically include 'Constitutionalists' and 'patriots') for some unspecified cause (they often allude to 'commercial' and 'spiritual' causes, as well as to militant response to any eventual gun seizure), an eventuality for which military planners and scientists are quite preoccupied. The reality - term in use many years. Many people may remember the downplayed U.S. Marines "Shoot American's Questionnaire" which also asked if soldiers would serve a United Nations commander if ordered. See MOUT and other technology definitions for more examples. No spin - NFPC, though the questionnaire was excused as 'one officer's private efforts as part of his doctoral thesis.'

Total Surveillance Society: A term to describe the ability to track individuals, all forms of communications, financial transactions, and observe public behavior on demand. The reality - largely in place now, with the only weakness in general video surveillance of public places. 20 nations now participate in something called the EU-FBI Global Telecommunication Surveillance System, as reported by Statewatch. A complete list of ways you can be tracked would take a book. The spin (when people object to a single discovered aspect, such as roving wire taps seen in the definitions) - if you have nothing to hide, what does it matter.

Digital Persona: Digital information 'in the system' about you as a person which, cumulatively, in a very practical way to those who use such information, is a more accurate and useful picture of you than any actual knowledge of you as a human. The reality - in place now, anybody who has the expertise can access, alter, and steal your digital persona. The spin (when you object to providing information) - it is a small risk to take for the added personal freedom and convenience (of the transaction contemplated.)

Data-veillance: The complete access to all communications and data resources possessed or accessed by the targeted individual or group, preferably conducted in real time. The reality - an INFOwar offspring technology in place now. Your email and all other communications, can be watched and recorded on the fly. Your Web visitations can be tracked, and by use of virus and other software tools, your computer can be made to divulge not only secrets directly off of your hard drive, but also, to report regularly everything you typed and the files you opened or created and saved. The spin - we need the tools to fight terrorism, child pornography, and Internet crimes.

TEMPEST: Transient Electromagnetic Pulses Emanation Surveillance Technology allows someone in a van or nearby building to zero in upon any given specific computer within a given radius and 'see' the content of the computer screen exactly as if sitting before it in person. The reality - in place for many years and refined now to include technologies other than computers, such as PDAs, copiers, fax machines, etc. The spin - still NFPC.

National Security: A veil of secrecy used to protect sensitive matters which are deemed harmful to the interests of the nation. The banner cry oft used in legislation which grants broader powers to the intelligence agencies, military, and DOJ. The alter reality - an open ended excuse from behind which any manner of crime or wrongdoing can be committed and then hidden, and by which draconian erosions of the Constitutional rights of citizens are undertaken. Once invoked, not even Congress seems able to get at the truth or perceive the damage to the Bill of Rights. The spin - we need to balance personal freedoms against the need for greater national security if we are to counteract (a particular perceived and promoted threat).

MOUT: Military Operations in Urban Terrain. Replicas of whole urban neighborhoods and business districts, underground sewers, telecommunications and power systems, traffic controls, etc. The reality - A $12 million (29 buildings, including several multi-story buildings, a church, hospital, and homes complete with elaborate system of tunnels and pop-up targets which actually speak) MOUT complex is at the United Nations North American Training Center at Ft. Polk, Louisiana - also one of two of the Army's Joint Readiness Training Centers where military and law enforcement train for operations which would only be legal in a martial law situation. Other MOUTs exist at Fort Drum, N.Y.; Fort McClellan, Al.; Fort Indiantown Gap, Pa., and the FBI's Quantico, Va., which is under U.S. Marine occupation. All such sites have homes and storefronts signed with names which can in no way be mistaken for anything but American cities - reportedly to include a McDonalds in some cases. Training focus is military and joint military-police in SEARCH AND SEIZURE operations conducted before grandstands of trainee observers. Door-to-door operations and barricaded street check point vehicle searches (citizens removed from vehicle at gun point, forced face down onto the ground, ID checked, vehicle searched via partial dismantlement and unloading, citizen reloads/assembles car if he can, and drives on, or is arrested and detained, property confiscated.) Contrast this to the military's traditional role of SEARCH AND DESTROY and one begins to ask who decided this training is necessary, and by what authority? Who is to be searched, what is to be seized, and why? The spin does not address the questions - counter-terrorism tactics.

Suicide Cult: Term applied by media to describe any religious group which threatens or commits mass suicide, typically in conjunction with 'radical political views', 'weapons stockpiling' and an extreme fear or distrust of government. The reality - almost all experts on mind control agree that all such cults have thus far had visible ties to CIA mind control projects at inception, during growth, and especially at their destruction. Both Tim Jones and David Koresh were influenced (and even funded) by the same CIA forces, and both were destroyed by government actions taken at the advice of CIA's Cult Awareness Network, itself made up of former CIA mind control scientists associated with the former. The spin (strategy) - religion is to be increasingly equated with radical politics, gun violence, and mental illness.

Satanic Cults: Term applies to various groups involved with worship of Satan. The reality - CIA mind control projects were heavily involved in satanic worship and other occult practices (voodoo, etc.) Project Monarch was a CIA programmable agent project based almost exclusively on ritual satanic-rite sexual abuse. From these projects can be found direct ties to peculiar American tragedies such as the Manson murders - aka 'helter-skelter.' The spin - not commonly addressed except in apologetic denial of the existence thereof. - 'Satanism is a harmless oddity like many other religions and no charges of ritual murders or ritual sexual abuse have been proven in court.'

Movement Police: A conceptual police agency able to track any given target individual's whereabouts and activities on demand. The reality - all of the technology needed to form such an agency is in place at this time (see remaining definitions) and some people believe the super secret FINCEN (Financial Crime Enforcement Network, which some believe is actually a cover group name for what is actually the FEMA Intelligence Center) uses supercomputers is designed specifically for such tracking purposes, to specifically include financial transactions. The spin - NFPC.

Thought Police: Originally political science fiction by the likes of Huxley and Orwell, advanced mind-reading technology to monitor children for 'improper thoughts' is proposed, along with a new Federal agency to citizens and place them into 'treatment' prior to their developing social 'problems'. The reality - this future concept is actually proposed by FBI think tank reasoning (that they can better determine what we should be thinking) as reported in Security Management, July 1999 - Law Enforcement and Technology News Summary. The future spin - 'citizens, crime is at an all time low, though the number of children undergoing therapy is rather high at the moment...'

Beamers and Wavies: Informal term applied by media, law enforcement, and the medical community to describe anyone who claims to be attacked by electronic mind control technologies or other electronic weapons as defined further herein. The reality - the product of a deliberate disinformation program. Anyone who does not believe mind control works has never looked at the patents that prove them wrong, described herein. The spin strategy - put them into the same cubby hole with UFO abductees and 'other lunatics.'

UFO Abductees: People who claim to have been abducted by aliens, typically involving ritual sexual abuse and other traumatic experiments. The reality - who can say UFO's do not abduct and conduct experiments. But I can safely say that several military mind control projects have been tied to fake UFO abductions, ritual sexual abuse, and other traumatic experiments. It provides a perfect cover story to account for repressed memories which come to surface. No law enforcement agency will investigate an UFO abduction case, but might otherwise investigate a sexual abuse case. The spin strategy - ignore these people, they are crazy. This is perhaps why media has also stopped covering UFO sightings, because to do so might give credibility to abductee reports.

The Actual Technologies:

Political Control Technology: A means by which a government exercises political control upon its own citizens by covert and overt means other than force of arms. This quote is the official description of how this is achieved: 'The product of the application of science and technology to the neutralizing the state's internal enemies. It is mainly directed at civilian populations, and is aimed as much at their hearts and minds as bodies... and ranges from means of monitoring internal dissent to devices for controlling demonstrations; from new techniques of interrogation to methods of prisoner control.' The reality - this term and definition was first used in Europe twenty years ago by the British Society for Social Responsibilities of Scientists, a kind of watchdog group. It was coined particularly, in part, to describe American NSA Echelon technology brought into Europe for the benefit of the British government. The term was not accepted or used officially until the European Parliament began studying the problem of non-lethal weapons and other technologies described herein, again, chiefly American inventions. Thus, we find the Europeans far more aware of and in fear of the true nature and intent of American electronic weapons than we Americans, which should perhaps serve to tell us something about the credibility and the intentions of both media and government in the U.S. Indeed, perhaps these inventions have succeeded in dumbing us down such that we are already too controlled to react as we should. Actually, several 'non-lethal' weapons banned in Europe as 'too deadly' are in use by even my own local police department. Virtually everything in the remaining definitions are useful political control technologies. The spin - new humane methods augment community policing policies. A more dangerous world calls for reevaluation of basic investigative and law enforcement policies and tactics. Some basic rights and freedoms long taken for granted may need to be revised to facilitate the insured safety of society as a whole.

Non-lethal (NL) Weapons: A misnomer intended for weapons which can be described as having minimal lethality. The reality - virtually all non-lethal weapons can kill, typically because the user is not trained properly and tends to use the weapon with far more viciousness and frequency in the false belief it cannot kill, relying upon the pain inflicted for both desired result and, in some cases, gratifying a desire to inflict punishment for daring to resist - and also because most such weapons have excessive impact on persons with impaired health situations, which often means that persons not even intended to be targeted by the weapons fall victim as a kind of 'collateral damage.' The spin - police responded humanely with non-lethal weapons. Seven protesters were hospitalized and one died when...

Chemical-based NL Weapon: A non-lethal weapon based on chemical compounds. Pepper spray and caustics, dye markers, and sticky foam are examples. The reality - Pepper spray, the best known of the examples, is outlawed in Europe as a neurotoxin too dangerous for use. But in the United States, a $57,000 bribe to an FBI official got an approval. Over 100 fatalities are linked to the product. Anyone using the spray is liable for prosecution of assault, assault with a deadly weapon where death results. The spin - better living through chemistry, in this case, the ability to stop an attacker.

Electronic NL Weapon: A non-lethal weapon based on electronics, electromagnetic fields, and radiated or directed energy such as radio frequencies (RF), radar, microwave, x-rays, audible and ultrasonic sound, light, etc. The reality - the fastest growing and most dangerous class of weapons among NL technology, chiefly because scientists are just beginning to understand the long-term and short-term effects of this technology on the environment and upon living tissues and organs. Many scientists claim that these same types of energy can cause severe health hazards at a small percentile of the levels actually used in these weapons, which means that collateral damage to innocent bystanders can be as significant a risk as if a casually aimed shotgun had been used. The spin - there are no credible scientific findings that prove (these energies) harmful. (True, of course, because no one dares test on humans, and because such tests take many years to complete, and because the weapons are not made available for testing.)

Eugenics: A concept of population control which is based as much on death control as birth control. Euthanasia is the best-known example of the death control concept. The reality - eugenics as a field of study comes to us from Nazi Germany, modern Eugenics courtesy of CIA founded (William Casey, former head of CIA) Manhattan Institute think tank. Many people who have studied Eugenics fear it to be the ultimate fountainhead of select wars and possible bioethnic attacks (hoof and mouth, etc.) The spin - we need to take a serious 'broad picture' look at world population and be open to creative and humane solutions.

Bio-implants: Small to extremely small capsules (some smaller than a grain of rice) which contain electronics but which are encased in a material which the body will not reject. The reality - in use for some time, new models draw power from the body itself and need not be replaced or removed, ever. An assortment of special functions are available from tracking to eavesdropping to physiological responses on command. Bio-implants, if small enough, can be inserted into the body without the victim's specific knowledge (they just think someone accidentally jabbed them with an umbrella, or some such similar event.) The spin strategy - make it easier to find and identify your dogs, kids, military personnel, etc., if they turn up missing.

Digital Angel: A bio-implant intended to provide positive identification of the user, report medical information, provide tracking information through GPS (global positioning satellite) systems and/or through the Internet by (unspecified) wireless telecommunications. The reality - in place, as reported by World Net Daily in Oct. 2000 - a company called Applied Digital Solutions demonstrated a working prototype. The spin - saves lives, allows secure Internet transactions without fraud.

Bio-electric Attack: The additional use of electronic weapon technology to make targeted individuals susceptible to special biological agents which would otherwise have no negative effect. Targeted individuals could be 'tagged' with otherwise 'harmless' biologicals by any number of means, such as paint balls, sprays, etc., subsequently activated as biological attack by selective electronic targeting. The reality - a great means of dealing with protesters and political dissidents, this is one of several items from a paper by Lt. Col. David Dean, U.S.A.F. published by the Air University Press in 1986 (Low-Intensity Conflict and Modern Technology.). The spin, in light of bans on biological warfare - their deaths remain a mystery because the electronic weapons were non-lethal, and the toxology report clearly indicates there were no dangerous biological or chemical materials in the area at the time.

Neural-chemical Enhancers: A non-lethal control technology based on engineered drugs which either directly change the behavior of the targeted individual or the individuals susceptibility or reaction to other neuro-impacting products such as cocaine and other drugs. The reality - LSD was first introduced into the US by Eli Lilly Corp. under CIA contract, CIA then introducing it into college campus' as part of the testing process. Dr. Timothy Leary was, in fact, a CIA vehicle for same. The spin at the time - tune in, turn on, and drop out.

Selective Seratonin Reuptake Inhibitors: A whole drug family of neural-chemical enhancers widely promoted as mental health tools for a wide variety of purposes from treating depression to schizophrenia. The reality - also developed under contract to CIA for mind control research, these drugs increase the target victims susceptibility to mind control methodology and reduce their likelihood to complain or resist. This often includes deliberate diagnosis of victims reporting electronic weapons attacks as having paranoia, forcing them into treatment which actually plays into the hands of the attacker (see beamers and wavies.) The spin from a local TV commercial - get more out of life. Ask your doctor about Prozac, today.

DNA Tracking: Use of human DNA in criminal investigations, a concept intended to be extended through a controversial Federal collection and cataloging of DNA samples much like fingerprints. The reality - The United States, Canada, Australia and Great Britain have all started national DNA databases. Computerized matching is as simple as used for fingerprints, and there are devices in testing capable of collecting hundreds of DNA samples by simply sampling the air or dust of a targeted room, making DNA tracking in the field a real possibility. Officially, databases will include only criminal samples, but analysts believe it is only a matter of time before everyone is cataloged. CIA is thought to have established a nation-wide network of DNA collections through firms contracting to hospitals to do blood work ups, so everyone born in a hospital or admitted to a hospital or medical facility where blood samples were taken since 1993 is likely already in at least one covertly run database. The future spin - less evasive because a mere hair sample or rub of the skin can collect the sample, and only criminals need fear the concept.

Sticky Foam: Pressurized canisters much like fire extinguishers expel a fast drying adhesive foam which quickly hardens trapping suspects, sealing doors, slowing or stopping machinery or vehicles, rendering sharp objects safe, etc. Versions call for electrifying the foam as well. The reality - prototypes have been demonstrated, better versions now under development according to Law Enforcement Technology, May 1999. Victims suffocate if it covers their face, of course, and if convulsing due to electrification, they fall into the puddle of foam at their feet. The spin - a harmless Spyderman solution to crowd control and tactical response needs.

Pepper Gun: A shotgun like weapon which fires a plasticized ball of compacted pepper spray material which 'explodes' into a fine powder on impact. The reality - banned in Europe as too dangerous to use, and intended to be fired NOT at people but at walls and other hard object near groups of targeted individuals, the Portland Police Department eagerly tested the weapon by firing point blank two rounds at a Hispanic man who was standing by his truck lighting a cigarette in a non-riot, no-crowd, no crime situation (a near-by house was being raided on a drug tip, but found the persons named on the warrant had moved out and others had moved in.) The victim, Johnny Santano suffered chest and wrist injuries which netted him $50,000 in an out of court settlement. This was known as the Liebe St. Raid. The spin - local citizens were shown on camera with the dubbed question 'What do you think about the drug traffic in your neighborhood?' Their answers were 'It's terrible. Just terrible.' But KATU, the local station had dubbed over an entirely different question according to those involved. "They asked us what we thought about the way the police conducted the raid."

Rubber Bullets: The best known and one of the earliest forms of non-lethal weapons. The reality - since its inception some twenty years ago, rubber bullets have killed large numbers of persons (actual numbers vary according to source, most agencies unwilling to help corroborate) and put hundreds more into hospitals with severe injuries. New versions operate in machine-gun fashion, such weapons being used on demonstrators at point-blank range by Seattle Police at the WTO protests in 2000. The spin - humane firepower.

Paint Balls: A kind of rubber bullet which is actually a small rubber balloon filled with dye or chemical markers which burst on impact. The reality - paint ball is extremely dangerous, intended for use where participants wear heavy body padding, helmets, and goggles. Any biological or chemical weapon could easily be substitute for or mixed with paint without anyone being the wiser. The spin - you can run, but you can't hide, because you almost glow in the dark (and might actually if the right marking agent is used.)

M203 Grenade: The Antipersonnel blunt trauma crowd dispersal grenade explodes to hurtle a large number of rubber balls in every direction. The reality - blunt trauma translates as concussion - assuming an eye isn't hit, courtesy of the US Army's Non-Lethal Material Program put on display in a London conference on NL weapons in 1997. The spin - NFPC at this time.

M18 Special Land Mine: A toned down version of the traditional military land mine, this one is designed to disable a car or other vehicle rather than destroy it. The reality - this assumes the gas tank is not ruptured and that no one was standing nearby, courtesy of the US Army's Non-Lethal Material Program put on display in a London conference on NL weapons in 1997. The spin - NFPC at this time.

M139 Volcano Land Mine: A special mine which launches a net over a wide area to capture groups of people. The reality - assumes no one is standing nearby, which, of course, is required to trip it, courtesy of the US Army's Non-Lethal Material Program put on display in a London conference on NL weapons in 1997. The spin - NFPC at this time.

FANGS: Remotely triggered Frequency Activated Neutralization Generator System to stop automobiles on command - a microchip to be installed into the ignition system of cars. The reality - Police Magazine, July 1999 announce that designers of the tested microchip device hope for legislation to require installation into every new car sold in the United States. The spin - 'no more high-speed chases.'

EMP Disrupter: Electromagnetic pulse weapon disrupts electrical systems and disables vehicles and aircraft, computers, and electrical equipment, etc., and causes a variety of extreme discomforts and/or disorients human occupants or collateral targets - firing a single extremely powerful pulse. The reality - awaiting deployment. U.S.A.F. document http://www.usafa.af.mil/wind/34edg/airman/suhajd-1.htm says it has been developed by Los Alamos National Laboratory. The spin - no more deadly high-speed chases.

EMP 'Phaser': Adjustable (stun or kill) EMP disrupter used at higher levels will superheat internal organs and cause instant death. The reality - same USAF document. Patent #4,959,559 Sept. 25, 1990 Electromagnetic or Other Directed Energy Pulse Launcher, Ziolkowski, Richard W., U.S. Department of Energy. The spin as might be offered off-hand by a user - "Looks a bit like a hamster in a microwave oven to me."

Universal EMR Weapon: The use of continuous rapid pulse electromagnetic radiation (radio, magnetic fields, microwave, radar, etc.) to achieve offensive/defensive capabilities at any desired level: targeted individuals can be repelled by extremely unpleasant physical reactions (stinging, burning, tingling, loss of hearing, confusion, blurred vision, dizziness, etc.), incapacitated (muscle seizure, convulsions), or killed (cardiac standstill, motor function arrest, organ failure). Adjustment of wave form, field intensity, pulse widths, repetition frequency, and carrier frequency determine outcome. The reality - all of the above was from a paper by Lt. Col. David Dean, U.S.A.F. published by the Air University Press in 1986 (Low-Intensity Conflict and Modern Technology.) In March of 2001, the U.S.M.C. announced a mobile unit of almost identical capabilities (mentioning only the non-lethal capabilities in their press release.) The spin from Col. Dean's paper - "...potential uses include dealing with terrorist groups, crowd control..."

RF Gunship: A military or police helicopter equipped with RF/EMR weapons instead of miniguns. Weapon application can be adjusted between lethal (cook organs) and non-lethal (fry skin) settings. The reality - not in place, but possibly under development according to classified 1996 Air Force Scientific Advisory Board study which suggested such a weapon system. The spin - a truly versatile multi-jurisdiction, multi-role weapon system.

Laser Dazzler: Laser-based gun-mounted weapon temporarily distracts or blinds targeted individuals, night vision devices, and video systems, can be set for wide-area coverage. The reality - in line for DOD funding according to Jane's Defense Weekly, March 1996. The spin, we might imagine, if developed by defense contractor General Electric - "We bring good things to light."

Stun Guns: Stun guns incapacitate targeted individuals with a high-voltage, low-amperage continuous shock, either by direct electrode contact or delivered by small harpoon-like barbs fired which trail filament wires leading to the main unit - all hand held. The reality - the voltage ranges on various models from 10KV to over 50KV and can cause burns and scars, as well as cardiac arrest or severe neurological problems in even a healthy person. Except for law enforcement, users can face criminal charges just as if they had used a firearm (laws vary from state to state.) New models are pulsing the voltage which allows even higher voltages at lower power consumption for greater durations of 'attack time' - and intensifying the 'shock' effect by phasing pulses at a frequency which the body finds most distressing. The spin - compact personal defense with non-lethal stopping power.

Electrified Air: A wireless stun gun for temporarily immobilizing a target subject at a distance with muscular tetanization by means of modulated current delivered by two channels of electrically conducted air. The reality - Patent #5,675,103 Oct. 7, 1995 Non-lethal Tetanizing Weapon, Herr, Jan Eric. The spin - safer distances, more humane - no wires or flesh-penetrating barbs, no burns (no tell-tale proof in court.)

Acoustic Bullet: A radio-frequency silent sound technology weapon which focuses an extremely strong and penetrating dose of audio information which can not only be heard (only by the person it strikes), but felt as it penetrates the body. Able to penetrate dense materials, it can be combined with remote sensing technologies to be aimed at moving targets through walls. The reality - a number of victims in recent months described precisely these symptoms and circumstances just prior to the technology's existence becoming public knowledge. Similar technology was offered by the Russian government to the F.B.I. for used against the Branch Davidians, but the offer was declined according to a document taken from an official U.S.A.F. Web site http://www.usafa.af.mil/wind/34edg/airman/suhajd-1.htm , which goes into specific details on the technology. The spin - "these people not only want us to believe they heard God speak, but that he thumped them on the head to get their attention."

Subliminals: A mind control technology which is based on the unaware and unstoppable subconscious acceptance of information fed to the brain through brief repetitions by imperceptible and covert means of information contained in or embedded within any audio/video source such as radio, TV, film, music systems, and computer speakers/displays, even delivered over the Internet if desired. The reality - Patent #4,777,529 Oct. 11 1988 Audio Subliminal Programming System, Schultz, Richard M, et al. Patent #6,017,302 Oct 31, 1997 Subliminal Acoustic Manipulation of The Nervous System, Loos, Hedricus G. Many other related patents followed. The spin strategy - since it is illegal to use this for any other purpose, you can trust us to use it only for good.

Remote Physical: Devices allow remote acquisition of continuous EEG emotional state readouts and physiological data from a target subject without physical contact (and without their knowledge), to include pupil dilation, pulse rate, blood pressure, respiration rate, and respiration level. The reality - This is the ultimate covert lie detector and similar units can be designed to detect persons in hiding or hidden against their will. Patent #4,958,653 Sept. 25, 1990 Non-Contact Vital Signs Monitor, Sharpe et al. (Georgia Tech Research Corporation.); Patent #5,507,291 April 16, 1996 Method and Apparatus for Remotely Determining Information as to a Person's Emotional State. This is the birth of the Thought Police. The spin - now law enforcement and other professionals can predict violent behavior and detect signs of mental illness without waiting for a senseless act to draw attention.

R-BATS: Remote Biochemical Assay Telemetering System is a bio-implant, skin patch, or wrist band device which detects and reports drug traces in the subject. The reality - technology proposed from NASA research in May 1996 NASA Tech Briefs. The implied spin - "get clean, stay clean (or else we will know and come get you.)"

Remote Emotions: A means of instantly altering mood or emotions in a target subject by transmitting EEG brain waves directly into the brain using ELF (extremely low radio frequency.) The reality - Patent #3,951,134 April 20, 1976 Apparatus and Method for Remotely Monitoring and Altering Brainwaves, Malech, Robert G., was the earliest device capable of altering mood - it was called the biofeedback machine. However, Patent #5,356,368 Oct. 18,1994 Method and Apparatus for Inducing Desired States of Consciousness, Monroe, Robert (Interstate Industries) takes it to new highs, able to instantly entrain any desired effect - especially where the target subject's full range of emotional states have already been mapped out in terms of EEG. The spin - NFPC.

Mass Tranquilizer: A means using ELF generated sound waves with embedded EEG signals to reduce anxiety or anger levels to almost any point up to and including meditative or anesthetized states. The reality - Patent #4,335,710 June 22, 1982 Device for the Induction of Specific Brainwave Patterns, Williamson, John D. (Omnitronics Research Corp.). More patents exist which, like this on directly alter the victim's EEG and thus, their mood and emotions. Of course, the same technology could also be used to foment violence and unrest when expedient to political need - such as just before asking for more money for police. The spin - humane tool for law enforcement in crowd control situations.

Altered State Generator: Another ELF/EEG device which can cause the targeted individual to experience simulated narcotic or psychotic hallucinations: emotional manipulations (mood swings), sensory illusions (pain, pleasure), vestibular feelings (vibrations, floating), depersonalization (detached from body, omnipresence, presence of other consciousness'), uncontrolled mental images (from memory, from subconscious): The Reality - a long list of patents support this capability, this perhaps the best example: #4,227,516 Oct. 14, 1990, Apparatus for Electrophysiological Stimulation, Meland et. al. The spin - NFPC.

Satellite Mind Link: Use of satellites to entrain humans by broad-area broadcast of EEG via ELF frequencies directly received by the brain. The reality - Patent #3,866,231 Feb. 11, 1975 Satellite Transmission of ULF Electromagnetic Waves, Kelly, Francis J. (U.S.N.) if combined with previous EEG technologies can be used to target entire continents. The spin - ULF signals are used to transmit orders to submerged submarines (true.)

Operation PIQUE: CIA 'communications' project launched in 1978, immediately after the 'conclusion' of CIA mind control experiments were declared as being 'unworkable' in CIA testimony before the Church Committee in 1977. The reality - according to USAF document found at http://www.usafa.af.mil/wind/34edg/airman/suhajd-1.htm , PIQUE was to 'bounce high powered RF (radio signals) off the ionosphere to effect the mental functions of people in selected areas', the selected areas to include nuclear installations. Since only ELF is the only RF which is known to do this, and EEG is the only possible means, this project sounds a LOT like the precursor to HAARP. Could this targeting of nuclear facilities have had anything to do with Chernoble? The spin - NFPC.

HAARP as ELF Weapon: The USAF project as described above in Weather War. The reality - the ELF capability of HAARP by technical description precisely matches that of mind control weapons used to alter EEG as described above. In the footsteps of PIQUE, motives are highly suspect. Who would the target be for a system in Alaska - the Chinese, Americans, or both? The spin - USAF insists it is for research purposes only.

SuperDARN: A network of HAARP-like facilities which will be located in North America. The reality - confirmed by National Science Foundation Award contract #9704717, there is nothing claimed for HAARP which cannot be considered as possible for SuperDARN. Such an array placed in Canada and Alaska could transmit ELF over the entire northern hemisphere of the earth. If its purpose is truly sinister, I'd look for similar 'research' projects in South America, Africa, and Australia to handle the rest of the World. The spin - 'this research facility will be open to international scientists for any appropriate research purposes.'

The Arizona Hum: An ELF hum which can be heard over hundreds of square miles in Arizona for which the source cannot be found. The reality - believed to be an ongoing ELF/EEG mind control experiment tested region wide and operated from near by Groom Lake, aka Area 51, now 'shut down.' An relatively small array of antennae not unlike those used by HAARP has been observed at area 51. The spin - this is a very unusual phenomenon that defies study.

Mind Meld: ELF/EEG technologies previously mentioned used to do with the human mind what a laser beam does with a holographic plate - capture a complete image of all content, which by digitization and output to a second individual in reverse manner allows the second individual to gain the memories and knowledge of the first - a kind of instant "been there, done that" familiarity. The reality - projected reality for the year 2020 by U.S.A.F. Scientific Advisory Board, 1996. A lesser kind of thought transference involving the transfer of "mental, emotional, and physical states of consciousness" exists today in patent #5,213,562 May 25, 1993 Method of Inducing Mental, Emotional and Physical States of Consciousness, Including Specific Mental Activity in Human Beings, Monroe, Robert (Interstate Industries, Inc.) The spin we might imagine - visit Total Recall and enjoy the vacation of a lifetime - as someone else!

Computer Mind Link: Microcomputer substrates with artificially grown brain cells provide the basis for bio-implants which can provide a number of functions, including linking the mind directly to computers for control and data access (two-way.) The reality - first growth of brain cells and first bonding of human tissue to substrates has been successful experimentally according to the Wall Street Journal, Feb 1, 1994. The spin - loose the mouse and keyboard forever.

Shared Vision: Use of advanced EEG and associated technology to capture the actual in-head view of a targeted individual - to see what he sees when he sees it. The reality - in development according to Wired News Oct. 7, 1999, which reported that scientists had successfully created a video showing what a test subject (cat) was actually seeing. Unfortunately, the technology as applied was highly invasive, requiring numerous electrodes to be placed directly into the brain matter. The spin - likely NFPC, but if it were... virtual reality was never like this.

RAATS: Radio-wave Auditory, Assaultive, Transmitting-implants, a kind of V2S based on a bio-implant. The reality - In place and ready for deployment. CIA funded, it was developed and tested on nonconsenting students by Professor K. Kelly at the University of Albany, where one student held 37 others at gun point, shot one, and eventually hanged himself - all after complaining about voices in his head. The spin (from a conference paper offered by Kelly at the Eastern Psychological Ass.) - microchip implants as a notion is "...one of the indicators of schizophrenia."

Voice Patch: A device which, when placed in contact with a human anywhere on the body (with or without their knowledge) provides direct V2S capability. The reality - Though actually submitted in 1950 and 1968, Patent #3,393,279 Nervous System Excitation Device, and #3,647,970 Method and System for Simplifying Speech Waveforms, were suppressed by the U.S. Patent office and military until 1968 and 1972, invented by Gillis Patrick Flanagan. But Patent #3,566,347 Feb. 23, 1971 Psycho-acoustic Projector, Flanders, Andrew E. (General Dynamics Corp.) took it a step further by providing the wearer with clear audio but those anywhere in the vicinity without suffered psychotic disorientation and reduced hearing capabilities. The spin - new hearing aid technology can be hidden completely to give you the same freedom you used to have.

Omnipresent Sound: A wireless means of transmitting audible sound through any medium (gas, liquid, solid) without radio waves by means of modulated ultrasonic pressure waves (air movement.) Point of sound origin is undetectable by the listener and there is no signal to be detected. The reality - Patent #5,539,705 July 23, 1996 Ultrasonic Speech Translator and Communications System, Ackerman, M. Alfred (Marietta Energy Systems.) Requires hardware at both ends, but is easy to conceal or disguise. The spin - NFPC at this time.

Hypersonic Sound: Laser-based device which emulates Omnipresent Sound but has limitation of requiring direct line of site. Does not require hardware at listening end. The reality - this technology was announced by American Technology Corporation's Chairman's, May 17, 1999. The spin from them - new capabilities as replacement for home entertainment speaker systems.

Silent Sound: A means of imparting either or both EEG brain wave patterns and/or audio messages subliminally into any existing or otherwise provided audio source, typically radio or television. The reality - In place now, Silent Sound Spread Spectrum (SSSS), sometimes called "S-quad" or "Squad". By incorporating audio, specific verbal commands (i.e. surrender, vote for Our Guy) are imparted into the subconscious where they surface to the conscious as personal thought. By sending EEG signals, emotional states can be altered (i.e. fear, happiness, etc.) by sympathetic entrainment (virtually instantaneous). Combined, the result is virtually irresistible. The spin - the U.S. military is prohibited to use this technology on American citizens.

Command Solo: USAF operates several specially modified EC-130 aircraft codenamed Command Solo, equipped with the ability to broadcast radio and TV signals of any type or frequency, and to embed silent sound subliminal commands as well as EEG emotional state entrainments into the broadcasts. The reality - in use today, the United States has successfully employed this technology in the Gulf war to 'encourage' mass surrenders by Iraqi troops, and again in Bosnia to sway elections and end the violence. The spin - NFPC at this time.

Voice to Skull (V2S): A means of transmitting specially prepared electronic signals which can be received and decoded as intelligible speech and sound by ONLY a given specified person or group of persons. The reality - In place now with a broad variety of signal/delivery methodologies. Typically, voice or audio is broadcast by pulse-modulated signals in one or two low-output radio or microwave transmissions which which are precisely aimed at the target individual, who experiences 'in head' sound, often described as 'the voice of God, which cannot be disobeyed.' Numerous patents have been issued: #4,877,027 Oct. 31, 1989 Hearing System, Brunkan, Wayne L.; #4,858,612, Aug. 22, 1989 Hearing Device, Stocklin, William L.; #5,159,703, Oct. 27, 1992 Silent Subliminal Presentation System, Lowry, Oliver M.; others. The spin - schizophrenia does sometimes involve the hearing of voices which are not real, typically claiming 'God' commanded them to do some terrible thing.

Levitation Projector: A device which projects a force suitable to cause objects to levitate and/or fly through the air. The reality - not likely in place, yet, though there are reports by electronic harassment victims who's opinions and claims I respect for very real and practical reasons who are simultaneously and spontaneously reporting consistently similar 'minor' levitations - prior to the technology behind it becoming public: Scientists at Intersonics, Inc. of Northbrook, Ill., reported successfully levitating a one-ounce steel ball bearing using nothing but sound waves. The spin as already expressed similarly in the aforementioned cases - '...so in addition to being a 'wavie', you're also beset by poltergeists?

See-Through-Clothes Video: Digital image processing combined with traditional visible and near-visible spectrum video to produce a startling see-through effect. Variation tested as alternative for tighter airport security. The reality - in place now, accidentally delivered into hands of thousands of consumers in Sony video cameras last year. The spin - 'very low-light level capability.' (Custom's Office reports that a survey revealed that most passengers would rather undergo a strip search or traditional x-ray if suspected than be 'peeped at' en mass.

Algorithmic Surveillance Systems & Face Prints: CCTV (closed circuit television) security systems connected to computerized face-print database libraries to watch public places for specified individuals. The reality - The reality - in place now and operational at numerous Federal and state agencies, limited only by a relatively small library of collected facial images. The spin according to Red Chinese who used video of Tiananmen Square protesters to identify and capture students involved, - the cameras are a "traffic control monitoring system."

ANPS: Automatic Number Plate Scanners are devices using digital processing of video images of targeted traffic patterns to find select license plates. The reality - in place in all exit points of London, British seaports, and the tunnel to France. The spin - gives us a 5 second response time to give chase to suspected felons.

Automatic Vehicle Locator: GPS (gobal-positioning-satellite) based device which transmits the location of an equipped vehicle. The reality - in place now. Built into some cars as an anti-theft device, small portable units can be covertly placed on any vehicle for tracking driver or vehicle. The spin - accurate to within 50 feet, you will never be lost again (at least we will know where you are.)

IPLD: Individual Position Locator Device is a wrist or ankle bracelet but can also be a bio-implant which uses GPS to track the location of the wearer. The reality - in place now, promoted first by the Army War College in 1989. The spin - we need to know where our criminals are at all times.

IFFN: An IPLD device which in addition to revealing location, indicates if the subject is friend, foe, or neutral. The setting can be remotely triggered to change the status as needed. The reality - from the same 1989 War College piece, only makes sense if it is intended that EVERYONE wear such a tag - akin to the mark of the beast (666.) So when you become a suspect they want to label as 'armed and dangerous', you simply get your tag zapped and they hone in on you with weapons drawn. The spin of the future - if you don't do the crime, you won't bear the sign.

National Identity Card: A proposal to have a single I.D. card which is used for all identification purposes from drivers license to medical insurance, complete with embedded microchip memory to keep track all important personal information. Federal law dictates that the Social Security number is not to be used for identification purposes. The reality - the social security number is THE preferred and most critical form of identification used in credit reporting and ALL contact with medical and other government agencies, and elsewhere. Despite obvious threats to loss of identity by theft of SS#, some states (Virginia and others nearby) have started using SS# as THE driver's license number. The spin - it is more convenient to the user.

See-Thru-The-Wall Flashlight: Handheld see-through-the-wall technology (millimeter-wave) uses radar as an imaging tool not much unlike infrared FLIR devices. Tied to respiration signatures, it can identify and track a specific individual from among several. The reality - in place now according to press release from Dr. Eugene F. Greneker at the University of Georgia, which points out the DOD project had working prototypes since the mid 1980's. The spin from their material - "potentially useful to police officers in ambush situations."

LADS: Life Assessment Detector System is also a see-through-the-wall millimeter-wave technology based on microwaves. Identical characteristics to the Radar Flashlight but delivers a video image and is aimed like a weapon for accurate use at distance. The reality - Also developed by Dr. Greneker at Georgia Tech, this is an actual product promoted briefly at VSE Corp. Web site. The spin, paraphrasing materials at the source "...able to detect respiration and heart rates at up to 135 feet away it can be useful in locate injured persons trapped in collapsed buildings or identify and separate gunmen from hostages through the wall.

Cell phone Scanner: Many off-the-shelf cell phones can be converted into an scanner which listens in to other cell phone conversations and decodes their scrambled signals automatically - by simply pressing a series of undocumented keystrokes. The reality - demonstrated to this author by a phone salesman who says he regularly shows customers how to do it. Learned the codes from the Internet, he said. The spin as subsequently told me by a phone maker representative - "its strictly a diagnostics tool."

PSAP: Public Safety Answering Points is a system of identifying the location and user of a cell phone when 911 is dialed. The reality - almost in place, required by FCC rules in 1996 for completion by Oct. 1, 2001. However, this technology can easily be used to track cell phones and pagers anywhere, anytime, by simply specifying the target phone. This is not a new capability, but it is an automated version of what used to be a fairly difficult task. The spin - improved public safety ( we might wonder how much safer? What percentage of cellular phone 911 calls are made by people who can't SAY where they are?)

Roving Wiretaps: A legally obtained wiretap which randomly selects individual communication signals within a larger group of a specified communications channel such as telephones. The reality - NSA technology allows for and is regularly applied to this in operation Echelon end for reasons of 'national security', despite Congressional warnings it is not legal. Now, FBI and even local law enforcement can request access to this technology through liberally granted court order which is based on presumption of guilt by association, even if the association is only that you work with or live near the actual targeted individual. The spin - if you don't have anything to hide, you shouldn't care who is listening.

Code-a-phone: Not to be confused with the commercial company which makes telephone answering equipment - use of remotely delivered high-speed digital command data packets over the telephone to cause any combination of results: Block or redirect outbound or inbound calls, simulate busy or endless ring, turn telephone into room bug even if still on hook, manipulate billing and caller ID information, and more. The reality - as presented first in this author's book, The Professional Paranoid in 1998, is based on NSA technology built into the modern digital telephone system when NSA worked hand in hand with Bell Labs to define the 'telephone system of the future' which is Echelon friendly. This author has experienced first hand some remarkable telephone manipulations using this technology not even mentioned in the above description, involving to-the-minute synchronized interference with both voice and telecommunications of not only myself and my clients, but also of a radio station and their listeners, while being connected by phone to the radio station in a live on-air interview. The 'dirty tricks' also suppressed the shows recording equipment so that the tape of the show was filled with dead air by use of a high-gain silent sound signal impressed onto the telephone call. The spin - NFPC at this time.

Project ECHELON: NSA's highly successful attempt at world-wide electronic communications surveillance based on continuous computerized sample-monitoring of all land-line, cellular, radio, and fax/email communications. The reality - in place in the United States and the U.K. for many years (see ACLU Web site for latest info.) Responsible for the Princess Di 'lover' tapes. The spin - NFPC, especially since Congress in currently investigating NSA and Echelon for possible violation of law.

Sewer Pipe and Pipe Crawlers, Water Pipe: The sewer and water pipes running from a building to and including the network of pipes in the street. A pipe crawler is a small remotely guided electrically driven device which is used to inspect sewer pipe, typically equipped with mechanical cleaning tools and, often, with lights and cameras. Cables run from a large reel at the point of entry to the crawler, to supply command and power connections. The reality - as reported and documented by a victim who saw a 'work crew' deliver the unit to a neighbor, and smelled sewer fumes and, in checking the source of those, heard something in the pipes, and who was later able to see the cable through an inspection plug: sewer pipes form a network of gateways into a targeted victim's home by use of 'pipe crawler' especially outfitted with any number of available transmitters which generate electronic weapon signals, making it almost impossible to locate the source of an attack, which would normally otherwise come from a neighboring building (commands to the crawler may still be from such a building.) In like manner, by inserting a special underwater microphone into a water supply line, water pipes can be used to turn any sink or toilet within a targeted building into a listening device, since water carries sound in a useful manner. The spin - NFPC.

Electrical Wiring, Light Bulbs, & RF Modulation: The wires within a building and which run from the building to the main power supply external of the building. Common screw in incandescent light bulbs used to light a room. RF Modulation is a means of impressing a signal of some other purpose, such as communication, onto the AC power line at any given point, then demodulating the signal at one or more given points elsewhere on the system. The reality - another means of introducing electronic attack technologies into a targeted victim's home, similar to the above Sewer Pipe example. By excessive modulation or other manipulations, light bulbs can be made to flicker imperceptibly (or perceptibly) as a means of delivering various elements of an electronic attack, or causing vision discomfort, generally of the kind which impact on moods and emotions and general well being. The spin - NFPC.

The Telephone System and Telephone Answering Devices (TAD): The network of telephone cables external of and connecting to a home, plus the wiring within the home, and any form of telephone answering device including a hand set, answering machine, computer modem, fax machine, etc. The reality: Because there are excess wires unused by the telephone company and the equipment, telephone systems can be applied to delivery of electronic attack technologies in a manner not too dissimilar to that described for Electrical Wiring, with the additional capability of providing or aiding in electronic listening surveillance or sensing of victim presence and state of mind. Telephones themselves, even when not in use, can become listening devices. The spin - NFPC.

Cable TV and Televisions, Home Entertainment Systems: Cable TV cables from the network of cables in the street into the building, and the wiring within the building and those connecting to TVs, VCRs, and Home Entertainment Systems to provide television and audio programming, plus those very entertainment devices. The reality - another means of introducing electronic attack signals into a targeted building, and further, with minor modification of a television, the ability to turn the speaker system into a listening device. A video camera can be installed into the television to further provide visual surveillance. The spin - NFPC, though in England there have been several instances of unusually worded advertisements regarding television programing that implied the viewers were being watched - appearing in certain communities, only.

Window Panes: Window Panes of the typical room window or picture window, skylight, etc. The reality - window panes may act as a speaker and/or microphone by vibrating sympathetically when struck by sound or pressure waves. There are several ways to take advantage of this concept to introduce audio elements of electronic attacks for mind control application into the targeted building on a selected room basis, or to provide remote audio surveillance of a given room, typically by use of a laser beam or direct pickup. The spin - NFPC.

SpeakerID: A product available to local law enforcement and others which can, with even a few syllables of sample speech, be programmed to recognize specific individual identities by telephone or recorded samples, even if they have a cold. The reality - NSA project echelon has obtained a massive database of sound samples from American citizens, perhaps numbering in the millions, making it possible to identify and track people within seconds of using a phone. The spin - we can place light offenders on house arrest and with an automated series of phone calls to their places of work or homes quickly determine if they are where they are supposed to be, or in violation of their sentencing.

Mimic: A digital audio-processing process which translates the voice of one person into the voice of a different specified person based on sound samples of the specified person, the result of which is virtually indistinguishable from the real person even with computer wave-form analysis. The reality - in place now within the intelligence community: Patent #5,425,130 June 13, 1995 Method and Apparatus for Transforming Voice Using Neural Networks, Morgan, David P. (Lockheed Sanders, Inc.) The spin as result of its misuse - "The call to the 911 center from the murder scene at the time of death clearly proves the accused was guilty of the crime."

Clipper-Chipper: On-the-fly decoding of encrypted data via technology built into every digital modem, fax machine, and telephone allows government to access telecommunications data on demand. The reality - as also presented first in this author's book as based on NSA technology which redirects a copy of the call in unencoded form to any specified location. The spin - "a warrant is required to access both halves of the decryption key, one half in the hands of DOJ and the other in the hands of the telephone company" (but NSA invented, and thus possesses, both halves.)

The Intel Pentium III: A popular computer microprocessor with a built in serial number useful for tracking the identity of the computer user/owner over the Internet and/or in copied software or generated files. The reality - in place now. While Intel assures us the computer is shipped with this feature disabled, it can be enabled remotely by any number of covert Web transactions. The spin - ...was intended to deter theft and aid in recovery if the computer was stolen.

Intel Privacy Chip: A microchip which can give Internet users a new level of protection against identity theft, but which also includes a covertly trackable identity feature not unlike the Pentium III. The reality - in place now according to Intel Press Release 1st Qtr. 1999. The spin - a new level of personal security for on-line transactions.

Bugged Bugs: Living insects which have tiny listening devices or cameras with transmitters powered by light installed on their backs. The reality - a report (apologies, unable to relocate original reference at this time) states this has been achieved by Japanese government scientists. The spin - NFPC at this time.

Smart Dust: Tiny microprocessor-based technology no larger than a speck of dust, each unit is designed to collect a specific bit of data about its environment. Intended to be scattered in large numbers and powered by ambient light, it can transmit data on heat, light, pressure, temperature, and collective optical properties suitable to combining for simulation of video, collected data can be transmitted in real time by scanning the room with a laser beam, which picks up the signals as modulations of the beam. The reality - in R&D according to an Nov. World Net Daily article. The spin - stay clean or we will be watching you.

Micro Air Vehicle (MAV): Ultra small remotely operated flying observation platform no larger than six inches in length. The reality - under development by DARPA contract according to the Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense. The spin in cheek - What is that - an insect? No, its just another L.A.P.D. helicopter.

DARPA-NASA BOT: A small urban tactical mobile robot. The reality - as a sign that the department of defense expects a war against US citizens (for they have no legal grounds to engage in combat in urban areas short of martial law as in an insurrection), DARPA has contracted NASA and JPL to develop such a toy according to NASA documents. The spin - counter terrorism tool (but Mr. Science, what about Posse Commitatus?)

UGV: Unmanned remotely operated Urban Ground Vehicle used in urban combat. The reality - more from Hahn's article in Parameters. The spin - delivers supplies under fire without risking life.

VAULT: Vertical Assault Urban Light Transport is a piloted 'jumping' ground-air vehicle used to deliver troops to the top of buildings or beyond barricades in the street. The reality - more from Hahn's article in Parameters. The spin - we elevate to fight.

Urban Warfighter: The DOD's idea of the soldier of tomorrow. The reality - think tank Pablum continues to fuel speculation the Pentagon is gearing up for war on America's main streets, this gem from Robert F. Hahn II appeared in the U.S. Army War College Parameters, Summer 1999. The spin - the year is 2025, and the constitutionalists and patriots refuse to turn in their guns (sorry - that wa an earlier Parameters story.)

Additional Patent References:

2,995,663 Aug. 8, 1961 Means for Aiding Hearing, Puharich et al. 3,170,993 Feb. 23, 1965 Means for Aiding Hearing by Electrical Stimulation of The Facial Nerve System, Puharich et al. 3,773,049 Nov. 20, 1973 Apparatus for the Treatment of Neuropsychic and Somatic Diseases with Heat, Light, Sound and VHF Electromagnetic Radiation, Rabishev, et al. 4,034,741 July 12, 1977 Noise Transmitter and Generator, Adams et al. (Solitron Devices, Inc.) 4,191,175 March 4, 1980 Method and Apparatus for Repetively Producing a Noise-Like Audible Signal, Nagle, William L. 4,395,600 July 26, 1983 Auditory Subliminal Message System and Method, Lundy, et. al. 4,717,343 Jan. 5, 1988 Method of Changing a Person's Behavior, Densky, Alan 4,834,701 May 30, 1989 Apparatus for Inducing Frequency Reduction in Brainwaves, Masaki, Kaxumi (Hayashibara, Ken) 4,883,067 Nov. 28, 1989 Method and Apparatus for Translating the EEG into Musical Instrument, Knispel et al. (Neurosonics, Inc.) 4,899,526 Dec. 26, 1989 Non-Invasive Method and Apparatus for Modulating Brain Signals Through an External Magnetic or Electric Field to Reduce Pain, Rauscher, Elizabeth A., Van Bise, William L. (Megatech Laboratories, Inc.) 5,036,858 Aug. 6,1991 Method and Apparatus for Changing Brainwave Frequency, Carter, et al. 5,123,899 June 23, 1992 Method and System for Altering Consciousness, Gall, James 5,134,484 July 28, 1992 Superimposing Method and Apparatus Useful for Subliminal Messages, Wilson, Joseph (Mind'sEye Educational System, Inc.)

5,289,438 Feb 22, 1994 Method and System for Altering Consciousness, Gall, James 5,352,181 Oct. 4, 1994 Method and Recording for Producing Sounds and Messages to Achieve Alpha and Theta Brainwave States and Positive Emotional States in Humans, Davis, Mark E. 5,392,789 Feb 28, 1995 Method and Device for Interpreting Concepts and Conceptual Thought from Brainwave Data and for Assisting in Diagnosing of Brainwave Disfunction, Hudspeth, William J. 5,562,597 Oct. 8, 1996 Method and apparatus for Reducing Pysiological Stress, Van Dick, Robert C. 5,586,967 Dec. 24, 1996 Method and Recording or Producing Sounds and Messages to Achieve Alpha and Theta Brainwave States in Humans, Davis, Mark E. 5,053,783 Oct. 1, 1991 High Power Low Frequency Communications by Ionispheric Modification, Papadopolous, Dennis - U.S.A.F.

JV

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Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 23:38:59 EDT From: SMARTNEWS@aol.com Subject: re: Remnants of Secret Society Pose a Mystery Across the U.S

Dear List,

Below please find info about this article.

Sincerely, Neil Brick

This may be heavy for survivors of abuse.

Remnants of Secret Society Pose a Mystery Across the U.S. Skeletons found in old lodges of Odd Fellows - Maria Glod, Washington Post "In recent years, the discovery of Odd Fellows skeletons has sparked police investigations in Missouri, Indiana, Pennsylvania and Nebraska. In Oklahoma, the remains prompted a work crew to flee in terror." ", a longtime Odd Fellow from New York, still remembers his initiation more than 50 years ago. He hesitates to reveal too much but speaks of passwords and a skeleton that "wasn't to be seen by anybody until you take the degree." "The Independent Order of the Odd Fellows dates to 17th-century England... The first American lodge opened in Baltimore in 1819." http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2001/03/30/MN184584.DTL

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Date: Wed, 4-Apr-2001 04:55:13 GMT From: <crscrt1@home.com> Subject: Clicks

Hi - I have a question: Whenever I talk out loud or to myself I hear a series of clicks in either the left or right ear. At one time I heard a perp say that it was a marker. What is it exactly and what is actually going on? Still trying to figure this stuff out. crscrt1

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Date: Wed, 4-Apr-2001 08:05:46 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: RE: Fw: Non Lethal Weapons

m.a.norman@ntlworld.com wrote: > Addresses of signatories edited > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Janet M Eaton <jxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <GSxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 8:46 PM > Subject: [GSN] NWO Non-lethal Weapons- New Electromagnetic Weapon for > crowd con > > > > The Pentagon insists that there's nothing to worry about. In over > > 6,500 tests on 72 individuals, only one exposure went awry, > > resulting in a nickel-sized burn on a person's back. But findings > > from a study of the long-term impact of the people zapper have > > yet to be disclosed publicly, according to a report in the Marine > > Corps Times, and "the amount of time the weapon must be trained > > on an individual to cause damage or death" remains classified. > > > > Martin A. Lee (martin@sfbg.com )is the author of Acid Dreams and > > The Beast Reawakens, a book on neofascism. His column, Reality > > Bites, appears in the San Francisco Bay Guardian every Monday. > > > > Copyright 2001 San Francisco Bay Guardian > >

Typical symptoms of Schizophrenia:

Waking up with small and large skin burns on various parts of the body is a common event for me. One such burn on the outside of my left calf evolved into the usual water blister that accompanies skin burns and was the size of a quarter. I have large patches of progressive dark skin discolouration especially on the neck below the left ear and spreading to the left cheek. My bedding at the same time shows no sign of any burns, just the skin. I also generally wake up being un-able to see out of my left eye for quite a period of time after getting up. Normal vision returns perhaps 30 minutes or so later. I used to wear a wrist grounding strap when I slept and drove in my vehicle, but gave up on that idea because the amount of current passing through the strap left a ring of scars around my wrist from skin burns due to the continuous flow of electric current through the strap. At times, the smell of ozone within my home and in my vehicle get so bad it's enough to gag you. Blue electric arcing is also visible in my vehicle and in my home in the dark from time to time. Several designs of electro-meters are always off the scale in both my home and vehicle indicating massive amounts of electric charge of both polarities. The electric charge in the home is so intense that the current flow through my feet has left thousands of broken blood vessels on both feet from the bottom of the foot rising about 6-8 inches up each leg. Pieces of cellophane dropped from shoulder height will often shoot out horizontally several feet and stick to walls and furniture. My vehicle is showing heavy signs of electrolysis all over the place and dissimilar metal connections are actually dissolving, but there is no sign of corrosion what-so-ever. The aluminum kick panel on the drivers side (approx 1/2" thich x 3" wide x 30 inches long) is half dissolved, with no signs of corrosion. I use some copper sheet in the truck to shield and ground some of the charge. The copper sheet is showing massive amounts of copper sulphate (blue stone) being generated as a result of electroysis. Appliances in my home (especially motor driven ones and TV's) burn out faster than I can change my socks. Frequently used light bulbs last no more than a month. I replaced 13 head lights in my truck in 12 months, with no diagosable electrical problems. An oscilloscope connected to a copper plate within my home shows 20 volts AC peak to peak out of thin air in my living room. Electroscopes used in areas of my home that I occupy most of the time are continuously off the scale. The sources of this charge is from adjoining walls. People visiting my home generally get very sick very fast and usually don't stay very long. I'm glad that the warmer weather is here, I'll be able to open the windows and breath something besides ozone for a change. My Schizophrenia seems to involve a huge amout of electric charge, unfortunatly the Doctor has no treatment for this rare form of mental illness, as a matter of fact he's not even sure it's a mental illness. I have woken up on some mornings with literaly thousands of small electrical skin burns covering at least 70% of my body, usually centering around the area of my head and then working their way down to the neck, shoulders, back, stomach and the backs of my legs. The tinnitus I experience can be both recorded and electrically malipulated (go figure ?). The home is absolutly devoid of any insects what-so-ever. A rarity in this part of the world. There were a couple of mice in home when I moved in Oct 2000, but they quickly vanished without me having to do a thing within a couple of days (another rarity especially for mice in the winter time). All house plants die within a few weeks no matter what kind or what you do. I purposely poured some sugar water into several areas of the carpetting in my truck, not a single insect has ever appeared for the apparent feast (go figure ?)

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Date: Wed, 4-Apr-2001 10:16:29 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: Some Resources

GroupWatch was compiled by the Interhemispheric Resource Center, Box 4506, Albuquerque, NM 87196. http://www.irc-online.org/

GroupWatch files are available at http://www.pir.org/gw/

Group: Church League of America

File Name: cla.txt

Last Updated: 1988

Principals: The Church League of America (CLA) was founded by G.W. Robnett, F.L. Loesch, and Henry P. Crowell (chairman of the board of Quaker Oats and founder of the Crowell Foundation).(2) In l956, Edgar C. Bundy, a former Air Force intelligence officer and ordained Baptist minister took over as director, a position he held at least until the late l970s. J.B. Matthews, a long-time researcher for the House Un-American Activities Committee, served as CLA's research director and consultant during the last years of his life.(1,2) Later in its history, Dr. H. Edward Rowe served as president of the organization and editor of its publication, News and Views Digest.(6) Category: Political, Religious. Background: The Church League of America, based in Wheaton, Illinois, was founded in 1937 by Robnett, Loesch, and Crowell as an outgrowth of what one observer has called "the jihad of fundamentalism against the Natl Council of Churches and the Christian modernist movement."(1,2) A research and information center, the CLA became a major private intelligence collection enterprise and once boasted that its countersubversive file collecion was "the most reliable, comprehensive and complete, second only to those of the FBI."(1) CLA dedicated itself to exposing what it perceived as subversive influences in educational, religious, social, political, and economic movements in the United States. It advocated free enterprise principles and opposed trends toward increased centralization and social welfare expenditures by the federal government. It also opposed the United Nations, "peace groups," "liberal" educators and clergy, proponents of liberation theology, and social action movements in churches, especially focusing on the National Council of Churches.(7) During the l950s, the Church League of America participated with other groups such as the American Council of Christian Churches and Christian Crusade in spearheading a religious-based anticommunist crusade. These groups identified communism with Satan and the Antichrist and believed that a communist conspiracy underlay problems in the United States. Senator Joseph McCarthy described them as a "militant anti-Communist Protestant group usefully serving the interests of America and God." According to James Davison Hunter, it was the public pressure generated by such groups that led to the House Committee on Un-American Activities' l953 inquiry of G. Bromiley Oxnam, a Methodist bishop and leader in the National Council of Churches.(8) In 1968, the organization started the J.B. Matthews Memorial Library in order to store CLA's library and its l00 tons of computerized files.(1) According to CLA's former president, the organization was dissolved at the end of l985.(3) Countries: US. Funding: The CLA's activities grew from the early l960s when it had a budget of $l00,000. In l977, it raised one million dollars in addition to its operating budget to pay for a new library for its extensive holdings. Aside from subscriptions and memberships, the Church League of America drew on financial support from foundations and wealthy individuals. Among its financial supporters were the Curran Foundation, the Elizabeth Trust, the Ahmanson Foundation, the Hearst (William Randolph) Foundation, and the Coors Foundation. Howard Phillips of the Conservative Caucus and the late Clarence Manion were CLA sponsors, and Gen. Robert E. Wood (former chairman of the board of Sears, Roebuck & Co.) and Sewell Avery (formerly board chairman of Montgomery Ward and U.S. Gypsum Corp.) contributed to CLA's library fund.(2) As another fundraising mechanism, the organization offered $250 annual memberships to businesses which entitled the companies to services as described below in Activities.(2) Activities: In its heyday, the Church League of America apparently served four related functions. First, it criticized institutions such as the National Council of Churches and the United Methodist Church for their liberal social positions. Second, CLA researched and compiled "countersubversive" files on activists in and supporters of the Communist Party and the New Left in the United States. The information was used for security and pre-employment checks of personnel for CLA subscribers. Third, it produced publications to transmit its viewpoints and findings, and finally, it offered seminars for its members.(1,2) The organization emphasized its working relationship with U.S. law enforcement and intelligence agencies but eventually developed an investigative capability of its own as well. In order to compile information, CLA retained detective agencies and maintained a network of undercover agents who infiltrated left-wing organizations, made tape recordings, took photographs, and stole mailing lists. It made some of its findings available in "documented expose's" published in its newsletters, the National Laymen's Digest and, later, the News and Views Digest.(1,6) Memberships that were offered to companies at an annual cost of $250 entitled the business to pre-employment and security data on five individuals each year. CLA's files were also used by investigative agencies such as the Wackenhut Corporation. In addition to its own data, its library administered files collected by other individuals, groups, and agencies. For instance, it handled the "Tocsin file" on campus radicals which had been initiated in California and the "Counter-Attack" files on the Left put together by New York's Senator John Keenan.(2) Govt Connections: In one of its brochures, CLA said that staff members of U.S. Government committees, policemen, and FBI agents were among the users of its files. It exchanged information with sources--like J.B. Matthews--from the House Un-American Activities Committee and administered the Counter-Attack documentation files on the left-wing collected by Sen. John Keenan of New York.(2) Private Connections: The Church League of America has worked with National Goals, Inc., an investigative organization linked to John Rees.(1) John Rees has a history of association with U.S. governmental and private domestic intelligence-gathering agencies. He and his wife, Louise--a former member of the U.S. House of Representatives Internal Security Committee--infiltrated the Washington, D.C. Left community during the early l970s. Over a period of three years, from l97l to l974, one or the other of them joined the National Lawyer's Guild, the Institute for Policy Studies, and Vietnam Veterans Against the War. Posing as radical or progressive activists, they were actually feeding information to government and private agencies and were receiving financial support from the Washington D.C. police. During this period, John was publishing Information Digest under the aegis of National Goals Inc, a New York corporation. The Information Digest was investigated in l976 by the New York Assembly's Office of Legislative Oversight. The resulting investigative report commented, "For the past seven years, a secret right-wing newsletter called Information Digest has been delivering some of the most sophisticated analytic reports on the American Left to such subscribers as the FBI, CIA, and the National Security Agency." John Rees was one of the earliest members of another private domestic intelligence institution, the Western Goals Foundation. Founded in l979 by former Congressman Larry McDonald (a victim of the downing of the Korean airliner, KAL 007), Western Goals drew on both private and official government files to become one of the largest and most influential private intelligence operations in the U.S. The organization was linked to the network of private groups which supported the contras during the period of the Boland amendment's ban on U.S. government involvement. For more information on Western Goals Foundation, see the separate GroupWatch profile.(5) In addition to his leadership of the Church League of America, Dr. H. Edward Rowe has served as executive director of Coral Ridge Ministries (Dr. D. James Kennedy's national organization), executive director of the (Religious) Roundtable, administrative director of the American Security Council, executive director of Anita Bryant Ministries, and president of the Christian Freedom Foundation.(6) Both D. James Kennedy and H. Edward Rowe went on to head the National Aids Prevention Institute, serving as chairman and natl director, respectively.(3) Edgar C. Bundy was also a member of the (Religious) Roundtable.(2) Misc: During the early l950s, CLA's Edgar Bundy joined with such other militant fundamentalists as Carl McIntire of the American Council of Christian Churches and Billy James Hargis of the Christian Crusade at the forefront of U.S. Christian anticommunist activities.(4) Much of CLA's file collection was donated by ultra- rightist George Washington Robnett. The organization also acquired the files of J.B. Matthews after his death.(1) In a January l984 issue of the News and Views Digest, an article by Sen. Jesse Helms (R-NC) assailed the notion of a national holiday for Dr. Martin Luther King, accusing King of association with and support of the Communist Party of the United States. Helms asserted that King and the Southern Christian Leadership Council "were subject to influence and manipulation by Communists." He also said that King's opposition to the Vietnam War was based not on what King thought to be the best interests of the U.S., but "on his sympathy for the North Vietnamese Communist regime and on an essentially Marxist and anti-American ideological view of U.S. foreign policy."(6) In a similar vein in the same issue, editor Rowe said of King, "The Communists know their own; let them claim him."(6) About the organization, a CLA brochure asserted: "Its research files are priceless and irreplaceable. To them have come representatives of security agencies from the entire Free World, staff members of U.S. government committees...missionaries, policemen, FBI men, businessmen...."(2) The motto of the News and Views Digest was "Confronting America's Enemies, Rebuilding America's Foundations."(6) U.S. Address: 422 North Prospect St., Wheaton IL 60l87 (now defunct) Sources: 1. Frank J. Donner, The Age of Surveillance (New York, NY: Alfred A. Knopf, 1980). 2. Deborah Huntington and Ruth Kaplan, "Whose Gold is Behind the Altar? Corporate Ties to Evangelicals," Contemporary Marxism, Winter l981-l982.

3. Letter from H. Edward Rowe (National AIDS Prevention Institute), Feb ll, l987. 4. James Davison Hunter, "The Evangelical Worldview Since l980," in Richard John Neuhaus and Michael Cromartie, eds., Piety and Politics: Evangelicals and Fundamentalists Confront the World (Washington, D.C.: Ethics and Public Policy Center, l987). 5. Elton Manzione, "The Private Spy Agency," The National Reporter, Vol. 9, #2, Summer l985. 6. News and Views Digest, Vol. 47, #1, Jan l984. 7. Encyclopedia of Associations, 20th Edition, l986. 8. James Davison Hunter, Evangelicalism: The Coming Generation (Chicago, IL: University of Chicago Press, l987).

JV

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Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 04:31:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Flora Gedenberg <cheerful144@yahoo.com> Subject: I'm so grateful for all of you who are working on this subject

And also I'm so grateful that you will share your experiences with someone like me.

I'm battle fatigued, and it's so refreshing to hear actual people talk about the subject. you all work so hard and I just want to say thanks for sharing it means so much to me.

I'm on my 29th day of gettin hammered. I'm doing fine, but this exaust's me almost more then I can stand up under. So I guess this has been more then two weeks. I counted the days on the calander yesterday.

I'm just exausted. But I'm holding up. For all of you suffering out there, from me without all the hard words, I am so desperately sorry you're suffering.

Flora

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Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 10:44:50 -0700 From: "chuck" <xfiles@uswest.net> Cc: mc@topica.com Subject: Re: [MC] Clicks

crscrt1@home.com wrote:Hi -

> I have a question: > Whenever I talk out loud or to myself I hear a series of clicks in > either the left or right ear. At one time I heard a perp say that it was > a marker. What is it exactly and what is actually going on? > Still trying to figure this stuff out. > crscrt1 >

The clicks you hear are most likely the filters in the implants that remove body noises before the transmission of what you said. The same thing has happened to me but now days they just torture me all of the time until I agree to do or say what they want under the torture. To see if the filter are on when you can not hear them if that happens to you. You can smack your ear with the palm of your hand and it should make the filters scream for a second or two as they try to readjust to the normal sounds around you. Don't hurt your self or break you eardrum. I have to hit my ears all of the time to scramble the filters to obtain some relief from the modes of torture they use against me and when I hit my ears they scream until the implants filters stabilize. Chuck

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Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 11:11:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom McKay <mctommckay@yahoo.com> Subject: Whatever happened to our World Court Class Action Lawsuit

Wednesday, April 4, 2001

Dear Friends,

Back in December Charles Schlund was talking about filing a Class Action Lawsuit in the World Court. What happened to this idea? Did it get anywhere? Has it run into a problem? Please give us an update if you know anything about this.

We Are One In Solidarity,

Tom McKay

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Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 11:50:22 -0700 From: ecotoday@aol.com Cc: mc@topica.com Subject: Radio program on HAARP, Earthquakes, and Environmental war

http://www.ecologynews.com/cuenews19.html

Alfred Webre, author of EARTH CHANGES, will be a guest of radio host Larry Jamison on Saturday April 7, 2001 from 7 to 8 p.m. PST. Internet users can access the program by Real Audio at http://www.kglw.com .

The program will cover environmental weapons - including but not limited to the U.S. Navy HAARP installation - and evidence for electromagnetic tiggering of earthquakes, weather war, and mind control. Includes Updates on electromagnetic triggering (accidental or otherwise) in the February 28, 2001 Seattle-Vancouver earthquake, as well as Evidence that the Tangshan, China earthquake of July 28, 1976 (650,000 persons killed) and an earthquake in Turkey on August 17, 1999 (at least 17,118 killed; 50,000 wounded, and 650,000 homeless) may have been electromagnetically triggered by human technology.

Host Larry Jamison states, "I strongly feel that many of our "Earth Changes" of late are tied in with EMF activity of the HAARP project in Alaska. People with ShortWave radios who have the HAARP frequency set on their radios noticed a huge increase in signal strength since Feb. 17, 2001. I hope that [Alfred Webre's] research can further explain how this can trigger earthquakes."

For an update on the HAARP investigation, and environmental war generally see:

EcoNews:"UPDATED: Was the Seattle-Vancouver earthquake triggered by environmental war?"

http://www.ecologynews.com/cuenews12.html

FAQ: Environmental war: seismic, weather and climate war

http://www.ecologynews.com/cuenewsdesk.html

"This is good writing and to me almost reads as an indictment of HAARP. We must ask for accountibility."

Radio Host Larry Jamison, http://www.kglw.com .

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Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 19:10:56 -0000 From: "Catcher of The Catcher in the Rye" <thefbiisthecatcherintherye@hotmail.com> Subject: Theory of Nerve Conduction (microwave-audio)

An article on mind control researcher A. Puharich, located on the Internet at http://www.azstarnet.com/~freetht/puharich.htm

A brief & important excerpt :

It was while he was at Northwestern that Andrija put his mental-pedal to the mental-metal and came up with his Theory of Nerve Conduction. The theory proposed that the neuron units radiate and receive waves of energy which he calculated to be in the ultrashortwave bands below infrared and above the radar spectrum. Therefore the basic nerve units - neurons - are a certain type of radio receiver-transmitter. Hot spit! The theory got passed around and glimpsed by various high personages of 1940's scientific importance. Among them was Paul Weiss, a neurophysiologist at the University of Chicago. Jose Delgado, the guy who tortured animals by putting electronic implants into their brains to influence their behaviour liked Paul Weiss and you can find his grateful acknowledgment to the man in his 've know vat's goot for you' book "Toward a Psychocivilized Society." While his nerve conduction manuscript was thusly circulating Puharich headed out for California to do his internship as a medical researcher. --------------------- MY QUESTION : --------------------- Does anyone have a copy of A. Puharich's dissertation, "THEORY OF NERVE CONDUCTION" ? Is it on the Internet ? If so, WHERE ? Can someone put it on the Internet & POST THE URL HERE ? THANKS !

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Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 22:00:24 -0700 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> Subject: HAARP: WEATHER, POPULATION, MIND CONTROL -- educational-research disinfo revealed

This article, just posted, exposes the HAARP disinformation campaign conducted by the educational-research complex.

http://www.geocities.com/brojongazette/frontpage/bj040501.html

HAARP: WEATHER, POPULATION, MIND CONTROL And the Educational-Research Complex

- BJNews by Marshall Smith

The HAARP (High frequency Active Auroral Research Program) transmitter is operated jointly by the U.S. Navy, Air Force and several universities and is located in Gakona, eastern Alaska.

Since the publication of the previous article, "HAARP, Now Running at Full Power," many readers asked, "but what is HAARP doing with weather modification, mind control and those other strange experiments?" Some people have heard HAARP is being used to modify the atmosphere, affect the weather, repair the ozone layer or even control the jet-stream. Other people believe there is a world-wide network of HAARP transmitters to send out waves which can affect brain cells and control human behavior. Others believe the HAARP transmitter can emulate terrestrial waves which can produce earthquakes. The many stories about HAARP activities is too long to list here, but the primary question is: Are any of them true? And the answer is, NO! At least those activities are not occurring at HAARP.

The second obvious question is: And how do you know that? I have degrees in mechanical and electrical engineering, and physics. I have long been a licensed radio engineer and senior computer systems analyst. I have worked/consulted for many years on NASA Space Shuttle projects, Titan, Trident and Tomahawk missile systems, Star Wars laser and particle beam devices. I am familiar first-hand with top secret government, military and industry research facilities. I have not been to Gakona Alaska, but I have reviewed the technical specifications of the radio equipment installed at HAARP. It is not possible for the HAARP transmitter to do the many things claimed for it in the popular stories.

I have communicated with the HAARP designer, Dr. Bernard Eastlund. Even though, Eastlund does hold patents for using something similar to a HAARP device which might be used for weather modification, even he would say, the location of HAARP in Alaska means it could not be used for that purpose. The transmitter would need to be moved to where the weather phenomena exist, and given the multiple-acre size of the HAARP antenna array, its not very portable, so there is little chance of that.

The location of HAARP in Alaska just beneath the northern lights aurora zone means it can only be used for injecting particles from the ionosphere into the magnetosphere through the auroral electrojet just above HAARP. The HAARP radio beam cannot be aimed or used anywhere on the earth's surface. It can only be aimed directly above the atmosphere into the ionosphere where the ion particles can be used as an Air Force anti-missile defense shield far above the atmosphere, or also as a form of ULF plasma antenna in the aurora electrojet for Navy submarine communication. That is why both the Navy and Air Force participate in the research at HAARP. It can also be used by university geophysicists for investigating the movement of solar wind particles in the earth's magnetosphere in the auroral region. And that is the reason for the name "High frequency Active Auroral Research Project," HAARP. So where did all the stories about HAARP come from?

I have worked at a number of locked and secure laboratories. I've entered military bases with armed guards, roving MPs in jeeps with guard dogs, then gone into a secure lab building were I went through metal detectors, showed my electronically coded badge, had my briefcase contents inspected, then entered into an interior laboratory using a numbered combination key lock which only I and three other people knew. There is nothing like that at HAARP. And if I were to be doing some nefarious weather modification, mind-control, population control or earthquake experiments, I think I would like to hide that so nobody would find out.

You can take a look at the many pictures of the HAARP facility on the official HAARP website. You can easily see there are no military guards. No actual military activity goes on there. There are no guards with guns and dogs. There is no armed security guard at the gate. There is no security fence around the facility. In fact, there is not even a gate across the driveway. Anyone can walk or drive in anytime. They only lock the doors on the equipment trailers, the cafeteria and small office building each night, just as anybody would.

During the warm summer months when there are many students working there, they even give tours, and anybody can walk around anywhere with a camera and take pictures of anything. It does not sound like any secret secure site like Area 51 or Los Alamos Labs. You don't even need a badge to go wandering around the buildings and take pictures anywhere at the HAARP site.

So, the many stories you have heard about the use of HAARP for top secret weather modification or mind-control experiments are purposely misleading. Who is creating these stories and is it some kind of conspiracy to cover up what is actually happening at HAARP? Is there a cover-up of weather modification and mind control experiments? So the third question becomes: Why are there so many popular rumors and stories about HAARP? - and where did they come from?

* * * * * * * * To answer that we need to look back in history at the rise of the great cabals and conspiracies of the 20th century. And, despite what many people might say, yes, there were some. Wouldn't you call Nazism a conspiracy to take over the world? Didn't they use mass propaganda and starvation to control populations? Didn't they engage in massive genocide? But you were told all that ended with the defeat of the Nazis in 1945.

At the end of WWII, General Eisenhower, head of the Allied Forces in Europe, came back to America from his "minor campaign," became President, and in his presidential Farewell Address, in January 1961, he warned us about the "Military-Industrial Complex." That term he coined in his speech has become fairly well known around the world, and I suppose everyone has heard of it.

By dictionary definition, a cooperative union of business (especially the defense manufacturing industry) and the government is called "fascism." Thus Eisenhower, at the end of his presidency in 1961, was warning the Americans and also the Europeans, about another upcoming rise of fascism in Europe and America during the 1960's and 70's. Something about which Eisenhower was very familiar, since he had be tasked to defeat fascism in 1945. And he warned it was coming right out of the U.S. Congress as new laws and agencies. Most people mouth the words "military-industrial complex" and think it must be some kind of bad thing, but they don't really know why or what it means. They don't see it is the same as the Krupp- Farben-Siemens-Bayer-Complex working with Hitler's Nazi government. And we all know how that turned out.

Even less known, President Eisenhower also warned of a second much more powerful group in the next paragraph of his Farewell Address. He warned of the "Educational-Research Complex". Almost nobody has ever heard of this group. Most copies of Eisenhower's 1961 Farewell Address in textbooks, or in electronic form on webpages, omit that second paragraph. The "Educational" writers and publishers of the textbooks, who also control the media, have very carefully excised that warning about themselves. Nonetheless, they have become a much larger, more insidious, factor in controlling governments around the world, than the military-industrial complex. And you've never even heard of them.

The development of radar, one of the greatest and useful technical inventions of the 20th century, was not done by the military nor by any industrial business for profit. It was done in top secret university laboratories in both Britain and America during the 1930's and '40s. The development of the atomic bomb and nuclear energy was not done by the military nor industry. It was done by American and British professors in extremely secret government research laboratories, at Los Alamos, operated by universities at great government expense.

At the end of WWII both of those research project groups and their laboratories did not simply vanish. During the war those groups had received tremendous funding. At the end of the war those top secret Educational-Research Complex laboratories continued to receive vast funding. They still exist today and have grown much larger with massive budgets. But for what purpose?

Forty years ago Eisenhower, being intimately aware of the power of both the Military-Industrial and the Educational-Research complexes, as both a President and a General, warned us what was about to happen to America and the world. But nobody heard. Nobody listened. And the words in his speech, in most cases, now have been mysteriously excised.

The primary source of funding for the Educational-Research Complex is large private Foundations with huge resources, such as the Rockefeller Foundation, Carnegie Foundation and others. They provide billions of dollars as seed money to start university research projects. And then the universities seek government grant funding (the Educational-Research Complex) for continuing and enlarging those projects at the university lab facilities. The Educational-Research Complex represents the largest lobby and control group in Washington. That is exactly the danger President Eisenhower warned about forty years ago.

The Educational-Research Complex has become so large it is now international. The foundations and universities also seek funding from international groups such as the United Nations. Often the names of the chairmen and directors of the large university laboratories and the chairmen of organizations like WHO, UNICEF and CARE seem to rotate like a game of international musical chairs. The international projects, on the surface, appear to be benign and are concerned with health, food and education in the many nations of the world. But in fact, on closer examination, the projects are focused on eugenics, controlled famine, population control and genocide.

Thus, many people have become concerned about mind-control and population control experiments performed on citizens. But when, they look at the Military-Industrial Complex, such as the HAARP facility, and they go driving up the gravel driveway to the HAARP transmitter, they will become frustrated when they take a look around and find nothing. The concerned and aware people, such as you, have been carefully mis-directed away from the real source of those projects, which is the Educational-Research Complex. The many stories about HAARP and its possible use to create weather control projects, to control populations around the world, or transmit signals to produce mind-control effects, all are mis-directions from the true source of those projects.

HAARP is a military research facility with some university projects as the "cover" for the use of HAARP as a tool to develop state-of-the-art defensive weapons. Last year, in a previous article, I exposed the fact HAARP is now using the improved "vertical curtain missile shield" technique rather than its original Eastlund designed "horizontal blanket missile shield." That is one of the little "inside secrets" which nobody outside of HAARP is supposed to know. That is one of the reasons for the secrecy at HAARP. But HAARP has no means or equipment to produce weather or mind-control experiments.

When they are asked about their activities at HAARP, most of the time, the Air Force and Navy, now more-or-less, answer, "no comment" or "it wasn't us, we weren't even on the air." But that's only to be expected. After years of being peppered with questions about HAARP being used for weather or mind control experiments, the Navy and Air Force guys have simply given up, since to them the questions are more like "have you stopped beating your wife?" You're wrong no matter how you answer the accusative question. The best way to answer that is to ignore the question. I would actually be more concerned if the military were to officially deny they were engaged in "strange" activities at HAARP. Often, "official denials" carry more weight than "no comments" and not necessarily as intended. Something about a "Miss Lewinsky" comes to mind.

The actual source of those weather, population and mind control projects is to be found in the secret highly secure locked facilities, such as, at Los Alamos and Sandia Laboratories operated by universities with massive U.S. government funding. There are similar top secret university/government labs in Britain, Germany, Australia and Russia. The leaders of all those lab projects meet regularly at international science conferences. And they did so, all the way through the so-called "cold-war" with the USSR. In 1980, at an international conference, I presented a paper about a thermionic plasma energy device I developed, which was based on a concept I had gotten from a professor in Moscow. What "cold war?" The size of those huge university laboratory projects with vast government funding is a "black budget" and is not disclosed.

Any time you hear of a genocide, mind-control, weather or population control project and it is somehow connected with a military facility, you can assume, right off, that is a FALSE story. It is, in fact, a mis-direction away from the Educational-Research Complex to keep you looking in the wrong place. Military people have taken an oath to protect their country. It is against their oath and lifestyle to actively participate in projects which are designed to control or eliminate populations, unless during a time of war.

I know of no patriotic military person, of any country, who would ever participate in such projects which were designed to be used on their own citizens. As proof, even the German army in the 1930's and 40's did not go along with Hitler. That's right. Hitler had to form the separate Waffen SS Nazi army units, which pledged an oath to Hitler and not to Germany, to carry out the Nazi program. The German army refused to allow the SS units to integrate and become part of the regular army. Today, the same is true of the U.S. military. They do not, nor would not, go along with the Educational-Research Complex nor any of its schemes.

No, instead, it is left to those nit-wits in academia, who have taken no oath, and dream up those grandiose plans to improve the world by eliminating all the undesirables through population control and genocide. Or even control world economies, nations and populations using high technology. Both the U.S. Congress and the British Parliament have committees which oversee military expenditures and thus any "secret projects" to be used against citizens would be exposed. There are really no equivalent committees to oversee the "strange" state-of-the-art university laboratory projects. Those projects are far "too complex" for congressmen to understand, so the over-sight process has been left to the universities, i.e. the Educational-Research Complex, to "scientifically" watch themselves. How convenient.

To prove I am not just blowing smoke up your skirt, and what I am saying is 100% accurate, let's actually take a look at the very words President Eisenhower spoke to the nation to warn of the unprecedented danger he saw looming just ahead, back in the 1960's. Eisenhower had been the General who, from an insider's view, had seen how American technology such as radar and the atomic bomb had made the United States a world mega-power.

Later, as President, he also watched as the very same laboratories which had produced radar and the atomic weapon, had mushroomed into mega-powers themselves which even seemed to dwarf the nation. Eisenhower spent much of his farewell address with the warning about the Military-Industrial and Educational-Research Complexes. Yet, we've only heard about the Military-Industrial Complex. When you hear the President's words you will know why the Education-Research Complex did not want you to know what he had said. When you finish hearing his words you will know why you've never heard of the Educational-Research Complex.

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Eisenhower's Farewell Address to the Nation January 17, 1961 (excerpt on the Educational-Research Complex)

Akin to, and largely responsible for the sweeping changes in our industrial-military posture, has been the technological revolution during recent decades.

In this revolution, research has become central, it also becomes more formalized, complex, and costly. A steadily increasing share is conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government. Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields.

In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers.

The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present - and is gravely to be regarded.

Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.

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Yes, for forty years, almost no one has heard or read that part of the President's speech. Since we were so easily mis-directed by the new propaganda methods and novel inventions of the sci-tech elite, we were not alert. We have not noticed who they are, or even what they have been doing to America. And if anyone did suspect there might actually be a large Educational-Research Complex which was "buying" and controlling congress and changing America and the world, they are easily mis-lead by being told, beware of the Military-Industrial Complex, its all their fault.

If some wild weather, mind control, or strange disease experiment does go astray and does affect the public in some drastic way, a typical pre-prepared cover story is, "It must be those military boys at HAARP." And, now you know where those many HAARP rumors and stories are coming from.

The Educational-Research Complex thought by always blaming the Military-Industrial Complex and facilities such as HAARP, you would never even suspect the top secret university laboratories are controlling American policy, society and people. They thought by erasing any references to their activities from the textbooks and the media, you would never learn who they were. The Educational-Research Complex thought you would never even know their name. But now you know. Go get'em Tiger!

Copyright © 2001 BJNews & TeddySpeaks Foundation, Inc.

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Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 22:13:11 -0700 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> Subject: Non-lethal weapons and space war

http://www.covertactionquarterly.org/ca70/index.htm#free

CovertAction Quarterly, No.70, April-June 2001, pages 6-13.

WELCOME TO THE FREE WORLD

Gas me * Stun me * Shoot me * Zap me * Douse me * Drug me * Shut me up

Frank Morales reveals how non-lethal weapons are being used with sometimes deadly effect against peaceful campaigners.

Summary: The U.S. military is expanding its missions under globalization. It recognizes that in "operations other than war... recent history shows that the most likely threats are from civil disturbances." The Pentagon is preparing to counter popular protest utilizing the latest in "non-lethal" weapons technology.

The new weapons are intended primarily to suppress civil unrest - and have been used extensively at recent global trade and other largely peaceful protests in Seattle, Washington DC, Philadelphia, LA, Prague and Davos.

The label "non-lethal weapon," utilized strictly for public relations purposes, masks an increase in the overall scope of violence directed against civilians in both warfare and "law enforcement" scenarios.

Under the guise of undeclared "operations other than war" - and other Pentagonisms - so-called non-lethal weapons allow for the increased repression and torture of non-combatant populations, particularly those opposed to this agenda. The armory ranges from tasers to stun guns, pepper spray to CS gas, hallucinogens to sedatives, rayguns to plastic bullets.

As this new phase in the global class war emerges and grows, along with the internationalization of U.S. initiated and exported methodologies of "civil disturbance suppression," the utilization of "non-lethal weapons" will increase, both here and around the world.

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CovertAction Quarterly, No.70, April-June 2001, pages 26-33

SPACE CORPS

The dangerous business of making the heavens a war zone

Karl Grossman shows how the Bush-Cheney White House has close links to the corporate Star Warriors - and an arms race in space could be the costly consequence.

SUMMARY: The blueprint for the U.S. space military program is revealed in the report of the "Space Commission" chaired by Donald Rumsfeld, now installed as the Bush-Cheney administration's Secretary of Defense.

"In the coming period," states the report, issued January 11, 2001, "the U.S. will conduct operations to, from, in and through space in support of its national interests both on the earth and in space." The report urges that the U.S. president "have the option to deploy weapons in space to deter threats to and, if necessary, defend against attacks on U.S. interests."

It is an option to which the new administration might be particularly well-disposed. The new Republic administration brings a foreign policy platform written by a top executive of Lockheed Martin, a kingpin in U.S. space warfare operations. Dick Cheney was a board member of star wars giant TRW. His wife, Lynne, was on the board of Lockheed Martin until January this year.

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Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 22:25:27 -0700 From: "Pat" <eagleph@ctaz.com> Subject: Re: [MC] HAARP: WEATHER, POPULATION, MIND CONTROL -- educational-research disinfo r

----- Original Message ----- > This article, just posted, exposes the HAARP disinformation campaign > conducted by the educational-research complex. > > http://www.geocities.com/brojongazette/frontpage/bj040501.html >

And does it not also expose the fact that HAARP is not, and can not be, used for such ridiculously claimed things as causing earthquakes?

I have yet to see anyone substantiate such a claim with anything like scientific theory, never mind factual proof. Every time I see a post like the one not so long ago in hours, claiming such a thing, I just have to delete it as more garbage. Notwithstanding people going on radio talk shows - which are about selling advertising and not necessarily about anything of scientifi value - there's nothing I've seen from real scientists that makes such off-the-wall, unfounded statements. Just more disinformation for the mindless masses.

Pat

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Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 22:53:49 -0700 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> Subject: RE: [MC] HAARP: WEATHER, POPULATION, MIND CONTROL -- educational-research disinfo r

Pat said:

> And does it not also expose the fact that HAARP is not, and can > not be, used > for such ridiculously claimed things as causing earthquakes?

> that makes such off-the-wall, unfounded statements. Just more > disinformation for the mindless masses.

... or attempts to sell books by authors lacking mainstream book publishing promotion channels.

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Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 22:55:56 -0700 From: chuck <xfiles@uswest.net> CC: A-MC-LISTSERVE <mc@topica.com> Subject: Re: [MC] Whatever happened to our World Court Class Action Lawsuit

I am currently before the The United States Supreme Court for the United States use of torture against me and I can not file another lawsuit until the Supreme court rules one way or the other. If the United States Supreme Court rules against me or refuses to hear my case and allows the use of electronic torture under the cover of law I will file in the World Court exposing the information I have which could embarrass and expose the United State more then if I had stabbed them in the heart.

If the United States fails to abide by the international treaties and the laws of the United States and this includes the Constitution I will finance a class action lawsuit against the United States and will include all of you on it for the United States violations of their obligations under the law.

You people must understand that we are up against the people that rule and control us. They are the courts and the Justice Department and they use the laws to protect them and their corporations from us. They have never been sued for any real money successfully and they own the courts but they must also allow the courts to give the appearance of law and justice. Chuck

Tom McKay wrote:

> Wednesday, April 4, 2001 > > Dear Friends, > > Back in December Charles Schlund was talking about > filing a Class Action Lawsuit in the World Court. > What happened to this idea? Did it get anywhere? Has > it run into a problem? Please give us an update if > you know anything about this. > > We Are One In Solidarity, > > Tom McKay

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Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 23:05:25 -0700 From: "Pat" <eagleph@ctaz.com> Subject: Re: [MC] HAARP: WEATHER, POPULATION, MIND CONTROL -- educational-research disin

----- Original Message ----- ... or attempts to sell books by authors lacking mainstream book publishing > promotion channels.

Pat: That too.

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Date: Thu, 5-Apr-2001 06:25:04 GMT From: James R. Rose <eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com> Subject: Semantic Differential-Movement

Ecclesiastes :: The Segregated Fields ::: The Semantic Differential :: An Introduction to Psychology, B.K. Bugelski(1973)

Osgood's contribution to an analysis of meaning has to be treated in two parts because he presents a theory of meaning followed by a method of measurement that may or may not be appropriate to his purposes. Each contribution must be examined seperately. Fortunately we are already prepared to appreciate the theoretical contribution. For Osgood, meaning is essentially a "representational process." This is the same kind of process we have been describing in various ways in our earlier discussion of mediation and substitute activity. ""The responses made by the organism, whether these be neural cell assemblies running off in sequences or fractional antedating responses, have been called upon to serve as substitutes or symbols of other activity which itself may or may not occur."" We can examine the example used by Osgood to illustrate his theory of meaning.

Suppose that a buzzer is sounded and shortly thereafter a shock is administered to a dog's footpad. The dog is strapped down and unable to escape. [ John Ginter's Story, http://www.calweb.com/~welsh/ginter.htm ; and, Brave New World Revisited, Aldous Huxley(1958), Hypnopaedia, Woodland Road Camp(1957), see at http://www.psychops.com or topica.com mind control lists archives, MC, or PsychoMK; also see azcorupt list ] After a number of trials the dog raises it's paw when the buzzer sounds even though no shock is given. To the lay observer, the buzzer has come to "mean" shock and the instrumental behavior of the dog in raising it's paw is a natural, intelligent thing to do under the circumstances, although since no shock is experienced, some other observer might regard the dog as just a bit stupid. [ unobsevable forced stimulus effecting human behavior is regarded in a similar manner ] How does Osgood analyze this event? He argues that a reaction to shock, although it involves raising the leg, includes many other responses. For one thing, the dog begins to breath a little more rapidly, or at least, there is a change in breathing rate and probably in breathing depth. We need not worry about the nature of the breathing changes as long as we recognize that a change takes place. There will also be other responses such as a change in heart rate, a possible change in digestive processes, and perhaps some canine vocalization will also be noted. Now all these things can occur without the leg being raised at all, that is, these responses of the visceral organs, vocalizations, and perhaps many other activities can be thought of quite seperately from leg movement. We can, in Osgood's language, think of these seperate or 'seperable' responses as "detachable" responses. In earlier discussions we have labeled such responses as r(g)s. ""These "detachable" r(g)s have the characteristic of antedating, that is, they move forward in time and will precede the final response of leg raising which might normally control our interest and attention.""It is these detachable responses, however, when they are detached, that are the important items of interest if we are concerned with meaning.

Principles of Psychology,William James(1952) :: The Production of Movement : The reader will not have forgotten, in the jungle of purely inward processes and products through which the last chapters have borne him, that the final result of them all must be some form of bodily activity due to the escape of the central excitement through outgoing nerves. The whole neural organism, it will be remembered, is, physiologically considered, but a machine for converting stimuli into reactions; and the intellectual part of our life is knit up with but the middle or "central" portion of the machine's operations. Let us now turn to consider the final emergent operations, the bodily activities, and the forms of consciousness connected therewithall. Every impression which impinges on the incoming nerves produces some discharge down the ongoing ones, whether we be aware of it or not. Using sweeping terms ignoring exceptions, "we might say that every possible feeling produces a movement, and that the movement is a movement of the entire organism, and of each of all its parts. What happens when an explosion or a flash of lightening startles us, or when we are tickled, happens latently with every sensation which we recieve. The only reason why we do not feel the startle or tickle in the case of insignificant sensations is partly its very small amount, partly our obtuseness. Professor Bain many years ago gave the name of the "Law of Diffusion" to this phenomenon of general discharge, [ hypnopaedia during sleep leads to hypnotism and conditioned sensation on cue for both waking and sleeping ], and expressed it thus: ""According as an impression is accompanied with Feeling, the aroused currents diffuse themselves over the brain, leading to a general agitation of the moving organs, as well as affecting the viscera."" In cases where the feeling is strong the law is too familiar to require proof. As Professor Bain says: Each of us knows in our own experience that a sudden shock of feeling is accompanied with movements of the body generally, and with other effects. When no emotion is present, we are quiescent; a slight feeling is accompanied with slight manifestations; a more intense shock has a more intense outburst. Every pleasure and every pain, every mode of emotion, has a definate wave of effects, which our observation make known to us; and we apply the knowledge to infer other men's feeling's from their outward display . . . . . . .The organs first and prominently affected, in the diffused wave of nervous influence, are the moving members, and of these, by preference, the features of the face ( with ears in animals ), whose movements constitute the "expression" of the countenance. But the influence extends to all parts of the moving system, voluntary and involuntary; while an important series of effects are produced on the glands and the viscera--the stomach, lungs, heart, kidneys, skin, together with sexual and mammary organs . . . . . . . .The circumstance is seemingly universal, the proof of it does not require a citation of instances in detail; on the objectors "is thrown the burden" of adducing unequivocal exceptions to the law. There are probably no exceptions to the diffusion of every impression through the "nerve-centres." The "effect" of the wave through the centres may, however, often be to interfere with processes, and to diminish tensions already existing there; and the outward consequences of such inhibitions may be the arrest of discharges from the inhibited regions and the checking of bodily activities already in process of occurrence. [ "Helter Skelter" when utilized as a forced stimulus to over ride natural occurring physiological processes incorporating a surrogate humunculous of verbal expressions in sequences of psuedo affirmations-2ndary reinforcers and conflict constructs in the form of subliminal communication, and artificial conversation constructs; see http://www.hypnotism.org , Carla Emery's site on the "History" of hypnotism and the federal authorities choreographing every movement of one of Dr. Estabrooks subjects. See "Hypnotism" William James(1952) entry at psychops.com or the mind control lists at topica.com ; also "Hypnopaedia" Aldous Huxley(1952) ] When this happens it probably is like the draining or siphoning of certain channels by currents flowing through others. When sight, smell, or thought catches our attention, something like this occurs. "But there are cases of arrest of peripheral activity which depend, not on central inhibition, but on stimulation of centres which discharge outgoing currents of an inhibitory sort." Whenever we are startled, for example, our heart momentarily stops or slows its beating and then palpilates with accelerated speed. The brief arrest is due to an outgoing current down the pneumogastric nerve. This nerve, when stimulated, stops or slows the heart-beats, and this particular effect of startling fails to occur if the nerve be cut. In general, however, the stimulating effects of a sense-impression preponderate over the inhibiting effects, so that we may roughly say, as we begin by saying, that the wave of discharge produces an activity in all parts of the body. The task of tracing out "all" of the effects of any one incoming sensation has not yet been performed by physiologists. Recent years have, however, begun to enlarge our information; and although I must refer to special treatises for the full details, I can briefly string together here a number of seperate observations which prove the truth of the law of diffusion. First take "effects on circulation." Those upon the heart we have just seen. Haller long ago recorded that the blood from an open vein flowed out faster at the beat of a drum.{see Fere: Sensation et Movement(1887), p. 56} In Chapter III (page 64) [ see Cerebral Blood Supply ] we learned how instantaneously, according to Mosso, ""the circulation in the brain is altered by changes of sensation and the course of thought."" The effect of objects of fear, shame, and anger upon the blood-supply of the skin, especially the skin of the face, are too well known to need remark. Sensations of the higher senses produce, according to Couty and Charpentier, the most varied effects upon the pulse-rate and blood-pressure in dogs. A pulse-tracing from these authors, shows the tumultuous effect on a dog's heart of hearing the screams of another dog. "The changes in blood-pressure still occurred when the pneumogastric nerves were cut, showing the vaso-motor effect to be direct and not dependant on the heart." When Mosso invented that simple instrument, the 'plethysmograph', for recording the fluctuations in volume of the members of the body, what astonished him, he says, "in the first experiments (which he) made in Italy, was the extreme unrest of the blood-vessels of the hand, which at every smallest emotion, ""whether waking or during sleep,"" changed their volume in suprising fashion." { La Paura (1884), p. 117. Cf. Fere: Sensation et mouvement, chapter XVII } Fere shows the way in which the pulse of one subject was modified by the exhibition of a red light lasting from the moment marked A to that marked B. {shows a graph where higher markings occur during the test between A and B , when the red light is flashed } "The effects upon respiration" of sudden sensory stimuli are also too well known to need to elaborate comment. We "catch our breath" at every sudden sound. We "hold our breath" whenever our "attention and expectation"[ see Hypnotism, "on the part of the operator" ] are strongly engaged, and we sigh when the tension of the situation is relieved. When a fearful object is before us we pant and cannot deeply inspire; when the object makes us angry it is, on the contrary, the act of expiration which is hard. I subjoin a couple of figures from Fere which explain themselves. They show the effects of light upon the breathing of two of hishysteric patients.{ Revue phil., pp. 566-67.--For further information about the relations between the brain and respiration, see Danilewsky's essay in the Bioogisches Centralblatt, p.690. } "On the sweat-glands," similar consequences of sensorial stimuli are observed. Tarchanoff, testing the condition of the sweat-glands by the power of the skin to start a galvnic current through electrodes applied to its surface, found that "nearly every kind of nervous activity, from the simplest sensations and impressions, to voluntary motions and the highest forms of mental exertion, is accompanied by an increased activity in the glands of the skin." { Quoted from the report of Tarchanoff's paper (in Pfiuger's Archiv, XLVI, p. 46) in the American Journal of Psyck, II, p. 652 } "On the pupil" observations are recorded by Sanders which show that a ""transitory dialation follows every sensorial stimulus applied "during sleep", even if the stimulus be not strong enough to wake the subject up."" At the moment of waking there is a dialation, even if strong light falls on the eye. { Archiv f. Psychiatrie, VII, p. 652; p. 129 } The pupil of children can easily be observed to dialate enormously under the influence of "fear." It is said to dialate in pain and fatigue; and to contract, on the contrary, in rage. [ one of the many reasons testing by authorities is not only superficial but, blatantly false. examples are lie detectors, pointing of a pen light into the eyes of drivers suspected of being under the influence ] As regards "effects on the abdominal viscera," they unquestionably exist, but very few accurate observations have been made. { Sensation et mouvement, pp. 57-58. } The bladder, bowels, and uterus respond to sensations, even indifferent ones. Mosso and Pellicani, in their plethysymographic investigations on the bladder of dogs, found all sorts of sensorial stimuli to produce reflex contractions of this organ, independent of those of the abdominal walls. They call the bladder "as good an aesthesiometer as the iris," and refer to the not uncommon reflex effects of psychic stimuli in the human female upon this organ. { R. Acad. dei Lincei (1881-82). I follow the report in Hofmann u. Schalbe's Jahresbericht, X, II, p. 93. } M. Fere has registered the contractions of the spincter ani which even indifferent sensations will produce. In some pregnant women the foetus is felt felt to move after almost every sensorial excitement recieved by the mother. The only natural explanation is that it is stimulated at such moments by reflex contractions of the womb. { Cf. Fere: Sensation et mouvement, chap. XVIV. } That the glands are affected in emotion is patent enough in the case of the tears of grief, the dry mouth, moist , moist skin, or diarrhoea of fear, the biliary disturbances which sometimes follow rage, etc. The watering of the mouth at the sight of succulent food is well known. It is difficult to follow the smaller degrees of all the reflex changes, but it can hardly be doubted that they exist in some degree, even where they cease to be traceable, and that all our sensations have some visceral effects. The sneeezing produced by sunshine, the roughening of the skin (gooseflesh) which certain strokings, contacts, and sounds, musical or non-musical, provoke, are facts of the same order as the shuddering and standing up of the hair in fear, only of less degree. [ see "Voluntary Muscles" ]

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Date: Thu, 5-Apr-2001 06:25:09 GMT From: James R. Rose <eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com> Subject: Semantic Differential-Movement

Ecclesiastes :: The Segregated Fields ::: The Semantic Differential :: An Introduction to Psychology, B.K. Bugelski(1973)

Osgood's contribution to an analysis of meaning has to be treated in two parts because he presents a theory of meaning followed by a method of measurement that may or may not be appropriate to his purposes. Each contribution must be examined seperately. Fortunately we are already prepared to appreciate the theoretical contribution. For Osgood, meaning is essentially a "representational process." This is the same kind of process we have been describing in various ways in our earlier discussion of mediation and substitute activity. ""The responses made by the organism, whether these be neural cell assemblies running off in sequences or fractional antedating responses, have been called upon to serve as substitutes or symbols of other activity which itself may or may not occur."" We can examine the example used by Osgood to illustrate his theory of meaning.

Suppose that a buzzer is sounded and shortly thereafter a shock is administered to a dog's footpad. The dog is strapped down and unable to escape. [ John Ginter's Story, http://www.calweb.com/~welsh/ginter.htm ; and, Brave New World Revisited, Aldous Huxley(1958), Hypnopaedia, Woodland Road Camp(1957), see at http://www.psychops.com or topica.com mind control lists archives, MC, or PsychoMK; also see azcorupt list ] After a number of trials the dog raises it's paw when the buzzer sounds even though no shock is given. To the lay observer, the buzzer has come to "mean" shock and the instrumental behavior of the dog in raising it's paw is a natural, intelligent thing to do under the circumstances, although since no shock is experienced, some other observer might regard the dog as just a bit stupid. [ unobsevable forced stimulus effecting human behavior is regarded in a similar manner ] How does Osgood analyze this event? He argues that a reaction to shock, although it involves raising the leg, includes many other responses. For one thing, the dog begins to breath a little more rapidly, or at least, there is a change in breathing rate and probably in breathing depth. We need not worry about the nature of the breathing changes as long as we recognize that a change takes place. There will also be other responses such as a change in heart rate, a possible change in digestive processes, and perhaps some canine vocalization will also be noted. Now all these things can occur without the leg being raised at all, that is, these responses of the visceral organs, vocalizations, and perhaps many other activities can be thought of quite seperately from leg movement. We can, in Osgood's language, think of these seperate or 'seperable' responses as "detachable" responses. In earlier discussions we have labeled such responses as r(g)s. ""These "detachable" r(g)s have the characteristic of antedating, that is, they move forward in time and will precede the final response of leg raising which might normally control our interest and attention.""It is these detachable responses, however, when they are detached, that are the important items of interest if we are concerned with meaning.

Principles of Psychology,William James(1952) :: The Production of Movement : The reader will not have forgotten, in the jungle of purely inward processes and products through which the last chapters have borne him, that the final result of them all must be some form of bodily activity due to the escape of the central excitement through outgoing nerves. The whole neural organism, it will be remembered, is, physiologically considered, but a machine for converting stimuli into reactions; and the intellectual part of our life is knit up with but the middle or "central" portion of the machine's operations. Let us now turn to consider the final emergent operations, the bodily activities, and the forms of consciousness connected therewithall. Every impression which impinges on the incoming nerves produces some discharge down the ongoing ones, whether we be aware of it or not. Using sweeping terms ignoring exceptions, "we might say that every possible feeling produces a movement, and that the movement is a movement of the entire organism, and of each of all its parts. What happens when an explosion or a flash of lightening startles us, or when we are tickled, happens latently with every sensation which we recieve. The only reason why we do not feel the startle or tickle in the case of insignificant sensations is partly its very small amount, partly our obtuseness. Professor Bain many years ago gave the name of the "Law of Diffusion" to this phenomenon of general discharge, [ hypnopaedia during sleep leads to hypnotism and conditioned sensation on cue for both waking and sleeping ], and expressed it thus: ""According as an impression is accompanied with Feeling, the aroused currents diffuse themselves over the brain, leading to a general agitation of the moving organs, as well as affecting the viscera."" In cases where the feeling is strong the law is too familiar to require proof. As Professor Bain says: Each of us knows in our own experience that a sudden shock of feeling is accompanied with movements of the body generally, and with other effects. When no emotion is present, we are quiescent; a slight feeling is accompanied with slight manifestations; a more intense shock has a more intense outburst. Every pleasure and every pain, every mode of emotion, has a definate wave of effects, which our observation make known to us; and we apply the knowledge to infer other men's feeling's from their outward display . . . . . . .The organs first and prominently affected, in the diffused wave of nervous influence, are the moving members, and of these, by preference, the features of the face ( with ears in animals ), whose movements constitute the "expression" of the countenance. But the influence extends to all parts of the moving system, voluntary and involuntary; while an important series of effects are produced on the glands and the viscera--the stomach, lungs, heart, kidneys, skin, together with sexual and mammary organs . . . . . . . .The circumstance is seemingly universal, the proof of it does not require a citation of instances in detail; on the objectors "is thrown the burden" of adducing unequivocal exceptions to the law. There are probably no exceptions to the diffusion of every impression through the "nerve-centres." The "effect" of the wave through the centres may, however, often be to interfere with processes, and to diminish tensions already existing there; and the outward consequences of such inhibitions may be the arrest of discharges from the inhibited regions and the checking of bodily activities already in process of occurrence. [ "Helter Skelter" when utilized as a forced stimulus to over ride natural occurring physiological processes incorporating a surrogate humunculous of verbal expressions in sequences of psuedo affirmations-2ndary reinforcers and conflict constructs in the form of subliminal communication, and artificial conversation constructs; see http://www.hypnotism.org , Carla Emery's site on the "History" of hypnotism and the federal authorities choreographing every movement of one of Dr. Estabrooks subjects. See "Hypnotism" William James(1952) entry at psychops.com or the mind control lists at topica.com ; also "Hypnopaedia" Aldous Huxley(1952) ] When this happens it probably is like the draining or siphoning of certain channels by currents flowing through others. When sight, smell, or thought catches our attention, something like this occurs. "But there are cases of arrest of peripheral activity which depend, not on central inhibition, but on stimulation of centres which discharge outgoing currents of an inhibitory sort." Whenever we are startled, for example, our heart momentarily stops or slows its beating and then palpilates with accelerated speed. The brief arrest is due to an outgoing current down the pneumogastric nerve. This nerve, when stimulated, stops or slows the heart-beats, and this particular effect of startling fails to occur if the nerve be cut. In general, however, the stimulating effects of a sense-impression preponderate over the inhibiting effects, so that we may roughly say, as we begin by saying, that the wave of discharge produces an activity in all parts of the body. The task of tracing out "all" of the effects of any one incoming sensation has not yet been performed by physiologists. Recent years have, however, begun to enlarge our information; and although I must refer to special treatises for the full details, I can briefly string together here a number of seperate observations which prove the truth of the law of diffusion. First take "effects on circulation." Those upon the heart we have just seen. Haller long ago recorded that the blood from an open vein flowed out faster at the beat of a drum.{see Fere: Sensation et Movement(1887), p. 56} In Chapter III (page 64) [ see Cerebral Blood Supply ] we learned how instantaneously, according to Mosso, ""the circulation in the brain is altered by changes of sensation and the course of thought."" The effect of objects of fear, shame, and anger upon the blood-supply of the skin, especially the skin of the face, are too well known to need remark. Sensations of the higher senses produce, according to Couty and Charpentier, the most varied effects upon the pulse-rate and blood-pressure in dogs. A pulse-tracing from these authors, shows the tumultuous effect on a dog's heart of hearing the screams of another dog. "The changes in blood-pressure still occurred when the pneumogastric nerves were cut, showing the vaso-motor effect to be direct and not dependant on the heart." When Mosso invented that simple instrument, the 'plethysmograph', for recording the fluctuations in volume of the members of the body, what astonished him, he says, "in the first experiments (which he) made in Italy, was the extreme unrest of the blood-vessels of the hand, which at every smallest emotion, ""whether waking or during sleep,"" changed their volume in suprising fashion." { La Paura (1884), p. 117. Cf. Fere: Sensation et mouvement, chapter XVII } Fere shows the way in which the pulse of one subject was modified by the exhibition of a red light lasting from the moment marked A to that marked B. {shows a graph where higher markings occur during the test between A and B , when the red light is flashed } "The effects upon respiration" of sudden sensory stimuli are also too well known to need to elaborate comment. We "catch our breath" at every sudden sound. We "hold our breath" whenever our "attention and expectation"[ see Hypnotism, "on the part of the operator" ] are strongly engaged, and we sigh when the tension of the situation is relieved. When a fearful object is before us we pant and cannot deeply inspire; when the object makes us angry it is, on the contrary, the act of expiration which is hard. I subjoin a couple of figures from Fere which explain themselves. They show the effects of light upon the breathing of two of hishysteric patients.{ Revue phil., pp. 566-67.--For further information about the relations between the brain and respiration, see Danilewsky's essay in the Bioogisches Centralblatt, p.690. } "On the sweat-glands," similar consequences of sensorial stimuli are observed. Tarchanoff, testing the condition of the sweat-glands by the power of the skin to start a galvnic current through electrodes applied to its surface, found that "nearly every kind of nervous activity, from the simplest sensations and impressions, to voluntary motions and the highest forms of mental exertion, is accompanied by an increased activity in the glands of the skin." { Quoted from the report of Tarchanoff's paper (in Pfiuger's Archiv, XLVI, p. 46) in the American Journal of Psyck, II, p. 652 } "On the pupil" observations are recorded by Sanders which show that a ""transitory dialation follows every sensorial stimulus applied "during sleep", even if the stimulus be not strong enough to wake the subject up."" At the moment of waking there is a dialation, even if strong light falls on the eye. { Archiv f. Psychiatrie, VII, p. 652; p. 129 } The pupil of children can easily be observed to dialate enormously under the influence of "fear." It is said to dialate in pain and fatigue; and to contract, on the contrary, in rage. [ one of the many reasons testing by authorities is not only superficial but, blatantly false. examples are lie detectors, pointing of a pen light into the eyes of drivers suspected of being under the influence ] As regards "effects on the abdominal viscera," they unquestionably exist, but very few accurate observations have been made. { Sensation et mouvement, pp. 57-58. } The bladder, bowels, and uterus respond to sensations, even indifferent ones. Mosso and Pellicani, in their plethysymographic investigations on the bladder of dogs, found all sorts of sensorial stimuli to produce reflex contractions of this organ, independent of those of the abdominal walls. They call the bladder "as good an aesthesiometer as the iris," and refer to the not uncommon reflex effects of psychic stimuli in the human female upon this organ. { R. Acad. dei Lincei (1881-82). I follow the report in Hofmann u. Schalbe's Jahresbericht, X, II, p. 93. } M. Fere has registered the contractions of the spincter ani which even indifferent sensations will produce. In some pregnant women the foetus is felt felt to move after almost every sensorial excitement recieved by the mother. The only natural explanation is that it is stimulated at such moments by reflex contractions of the womb. { Cf. Fere: Sensation et mouvement, chap. XVIV. } That the glands are affected in emotion is patent enough in the case of the tears of grief, the dry mouth, moist , moist skin, or diarrhoea of fear, the biliary disturbances which sometimes follow rage, etc. The watering of the mouth at the sight of succulent food is well known. It is difficult to follow the smaller degrees of all the reflex changes, but it can hardly be doubted that they exist in some degree, even where they cease to be traceable, and that all our sensations have some visceral effects. The sneeezing produced by sunshine, the roughening of the skin (gooseflesh) which certain strokings, contacts, and sounds, musical or non-musical, provoke, are facts of the same order as the shuddering and standing up of the hair in fear, only of less degree. [ see "Voluntary Muscles" ]

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What do you mean getting hammered? By cheerful144@yahoo.com

[CTRL] Evidence HAARP, ELF caused NW Quake examined by BC Gov't, British TV By ecotoday@aol.com

care for a mind f---? By crscrt1@home.com

RE: [CTRL] Evidence HAARP, ELF caused NW Quake examined by BC Gov't, Bri By frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca

Re: care for a mind f---? By xfiles@uswest.net

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Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 06:32:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Flora Gedenberg <cheerful144@yahoo.com> Subject: What do you mean getting hammered?

I mean that they have been sending elf or what ever you choose to call it, for at least twice a day for a certain amount of time each time.

They are trying to drive me mad. I can not hear them, but I can feel it it's like kind of being almost asleep and you jerk awake, and after serveral of those so called feelings I either work my program or go insane because they are using mind control on me to drive me mad.

I've been at it for about 31 days now. I'm doing fine with my 12 steps of A.A. and my higher power. I can't for the life of me understand why they pick someone like me? I haven't got a clue, unless it's that I'm helpless and have no one who really cares about me or what.

Thankyou for asking. I believe it is Communism, and I believe that's how they are taking over the world. One step at a time. One person at a time. If you read any of the information that is being sent out, it's very good, and it does talk about things that I've been talking about for 37 years.

And I'm sorry, but I have been called a liar so many times in my life, and I've tried taking it to the public and the senders use the machine to "freeze up my mind so I can't even talk." I want to talk but I can't get a word out.

The religious ofcourse "knows all" and so you are a lunatic with the need of ....ha.......Being delivered from that wicked nonsense and come to your senses. You poor thing you..ha

Man I don't know how anybody makes it in any church anymore. There's so many wanna be's who know everything it's a wonder "they" don't take over the world ha, they make me sick, they demand your attention so they can give you a lecture about stuff they have no knowledge of, but if you don't listen and conform to their agenda you're a lunatic or a heritic.

Ha, I just can't get over it, they demand out of you what they wouldn't consider to allow you to ask of them. Wes told me to get off the religious kick and I'm not really saying anything except I simply haven't found but just a few who will listen. They all want to show me how to saw my thumb off and then when the get to the saw and it's bleeding they want to tell me when to cry and how much and when to stop and so on.

I can't think of anything I could say that these people with this information are more clear then I and can talk about it more intelligently.

I don't know how to explain to you what they are doing to me, except that it exaust's me, and I'm doing fine, no hallucinations like the "controller" would like.

? I wish I could explain to all of you at least your listening. They are trying to drive me out of my mind as they have for about and at least 7 times, and drove me to the mental institution for short periods of "rest" ha.

What I feel here is deep deep sympathy for John. I well? No body will believe me, and I know John is in very severe pain. I'm so grateful for your scientific explanations, at least you know something.

I get so tried of being called a liar I could lay down and never get up again. I don't know how to explain what's happening to me, except it's worse when I use the radio, or the tv.?

Gee I wish I could explain it and give someone hope at least to say I do believe you? Gee I'm sorry I'm so inept at writing my experiences? I can only say it's real, it's painful, and it's powerful, and the only thing I've found, being uneducated, only a victim is really and truly the 12 steps of A.A. and my higher power. That's the best I can explain it. Flora again thankyou for asking

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Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 20:34:35 EDT From: Ecotoday@aol.com CC: mc@topica.com Subject: [CTRL] Evidence HAARP, ELF caused NW Quake examined by BC Gov't, British TV

-Caveat Lector-

From John Quinn at Newshawk:

Evidence HAARP, ELF caused NW Quake examined by BC Gov't, British TV

From what we've seen, there is NO DOUBT the Feb. 28 Seattle/Vancouver-area quake WAS -- DEFINITELY -- triggered by the U.S. FedGov, using either their HAARP arrays, ULF transmissions or most likely BOTH: working in conjunction to induce severe, VERY deep level seismic upheaval in the targeted region.

The issue has now been examined in several broadcasts by BBC-TV and other media outlets, and information regarding the entire matter is being presented to members of the British Columbian government!

The article forwarded below brings up VERY important and SOLID information about this very urgent issue.

News Hawk previously published extensive articles about the GREAT number of malicious, malevolent and malignant applications for HAARP's hellishly-powerful RF transmissions; and Top View has published much further information on the subject in recent months.

Information just related to us from a source with NOAA shows that HAARP operations -- in and of themselves and REGARDLESS of the actual types of transmissions used in specific applications, are provoking VERY destructive, cataclysmic, catalytic, runaway changes and deterioration of the ENTIRE IONOSPHERE -- AND other atmospheric strata -- of planet Earth!

These CRITICALLY IMPORTANT atmospheric layers are being ATTACKED, SHREDDED and DESTROYED by the insane, power/greed obsessed, satanic New World Order/4th Reich global power elite with their constant, unending, various HAARP operations; operations which, moreover, are of course designed and configured to have specific negative, destructive, oppressive, manipulative, exploitative effects upon the HUMAN RACE; as well as upon entire OUR planet and ALL its resources.

HAARP IS THE PLANET-KILLER.

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From: mirage <mirage@PObox.com> To: <twinker1@hotmail.com> Subject: Was the Seattle-Vancouver earthquake triggered by environmental war? Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 23:03:14 -0700

________________ ECONEWS SERVICE 2001 Exopolitics News http://www.exopolitics.com/cuenews.html ;

http://www.ecologynews.com/cuenews12.html

ECONEWS: ENVIRONMENTAL WAR DESK

UPDATED: Was the Seattle-Vancouver earthquake triggered by environmental war?

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VANCOUVER, BC - Was the Seattle-Vancouver earthquake of 28 February 2001 triggered - accidentally or on purpose - by new, secret electromagnetic weapons?

What caused the Seattle-Vancouver earthquake is by no means settled to a scientific certainty. This question is now an issue of public controversy. The British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC - U.K.) and other broadcasters have produced and broadcast live programs with EcoNews Service on whether electromagnetic (EM) weapons had any role in the earthquake. British Columbia is expecting a parliamentary election shortly, and at least one political party - the Green Party of BC - has informed its members of the issue, and is preparing to distribute a non-partisan questionnaire on Environmental war and the Seattle-Vancouver earthquake to Green Party provincial candidates.

Vancouver-based environmental journalist Alfred Webre believes electromagnetic (EM) devices may have accidentally or intentionally triggered the deep magnitude 6.8 earthquake. One possible candidate is the HIGH FREQUENCY ACTIVE AURORAL RESEARCH PROGRAM (HAARP) U.S. military installation in Alaska. HAARP began ionizing the earth's ionosphere and magnetosphere at very high signals on February 17 coincidental with the US bombing of Iraq (nine days prior to the earthquake), and continued right up to February 28, the very date of the earthquake.

Alternatively, an electromagnetic (EM) device of unknown origin could have triggered the Seattle-Vancouver earthquake. Published reports available to EcoNews state that similar environmental weapons may have been used by a paramilitary or covert intelligence group to trigger the January 17, 1995 Kobe, Japan earthquake

A key clue that the Seattle-Vancouver earthquake may have been triggered by environmental warfare is its anomalous profile. The earthquake was 6.8 magnitude earthquake at a depth of 40 miles, that in the words of one observer "looked like a 3.0 magnitude. There are at least three scientific models by which such electromagnetic (EM) ionization could trigger an earthquake along the faults connecting the Seattle-Vancouver area. Environmentalist Alfred Webre has developed these models at length in a recent book, Earth Changes (Universebooks.com ).

On July 4, 2000, Webre asked the director [name withheld on request] of the Electronic War discussion group (EWAR-L), "Can ULF wave-generators be applied in tectonic warfare? That seems to be a key application question. Tectonic warfare intentionally generates seismic activity on a target (enemy's) territory for purposes of inflicting destruction, terror, changes of government and social unrest."

He answered, "One approach to answering that is to look for data correlations between ULF electromagnetic and seismic signals (as ELFRAD is doing) and possible energy coupling mechanisms between these, such as magnetic flux-caused strain deformations within the earth (causing stressors on fault lines). Perhaps Charlie Plyler [director of the ELFRAD group which monitors electromagnetic activity], who has looked at this issue more closely than I have, can comment." See

http://www.topica.com/lists/mc//read/message.html?mid=1302600419&sort=d&start=3343

Members of the ELFRAD Group, which monitors electromagnetic (EM) events, note that the electromagnetic HAARP installation, a U.S. electromagnetic (EM) weapons system in Alaska may have inadvertently or intentionally affected the earthquake. Originally billed as a pure research facility, HAARP now functions as a global missile-tracking facility, by ionizing (and disrupting) the earth's ionosphere and magnetosphere. It is the magnetosphere that plays a crucial role in maintaining the delicate stability of the twenty or so inverted tectonic plates that float in a plastic medium along the surface of the earth. HAARP is thus capable of disrupting the magnetosphere, triggering tectonic instability.

In the mid-1990s, despite the strong opposition of Congressman Ronald V. Dellums (Dem.-Calif.) the U.S. Congress narrowly approved HAARP, in the face of studies showing HAARP's negative environmental impacts. The U.S. Navy assured Congress that HAARP would not trigger climate change or seismic events like the Seattle-Vancouver earthquake. Now, if it can be established that HAARP - or some other EM installation - had a role in causing this earthquake, the U.S. domestic and international repercussions of this finding could be profound.

In the aftermath of the Seattle-Vancouver quake, Dick Eastman, a Yakima valley, Washington researcher, writing agreed with Webre's analysis that earthquakes can be triggered by electromagnetic (EM) warfare. He stated, "Like the weather and the oceans, the mantle beneath the floating tectonic plates also involve convection cells, but in a plastic medium that sets up wave patterns that may be modified by superimposition of additional waves."

Electromagnetic (EM) weapons can possibly trigger cataclysmic earth events. EM fields can superheat the ionosphere, disrupting the magnetosphere's magnetic fields around the earth, and in turn causing massive disruption of the earth's Tectonic plates. AS indicated, the 1995 earthquake in Kobe, Japan may have been triggered by clandestine deployment of EM weapons. EM strategic warfare includes weather, climate and earth event warfare. Researchers have reported the use of EM weapons in anti-population mind-control operations over major cities.

Seattle-based researchers and short wave radio operators now state that unusual electromagnetic (EM) broadcasts preceded the Seattle- Vancouver earthquake. Kent Steadman of Seattle's Cyberspaceorbit.com, a researcher who actually monitored the EM broadcasts prior to the earthquake states, "Could the abnormal activity on 3.39 MHz February 20 and prior be linked to the Seattle quake? If so, why would HAARP (supposedly funded by U.S. sources) be used to create quakes or other assorted EM mayhem on U.S. property? I picked up a signal so strong it went right off the S meter on my SW set at that frequency at 6:00 am on Feb 20th. Took an audio sampling of half an hour but can't make hide or hair of what HAARP is broadcasting, just that it's STRONG."

Environmental impact studies critiquing HAARP's original environmental impact statement under the U.S. National Environmental Policy Act of 197 show that HAARP - and EM environmental weapons deployed secretly by many nations - could superheat the ionosphere, and substantially damage or destroy it in a runaway ecological process. Earth Island's award winning 1995 articles are reproduced at Ecologynews.com .

Seattle-based researcher Kent Steadman notes EM activity just prior to and during the earthquake. "COINCIDENCE? Date: 2/27/01 9:54:34 PM Pacific Standard Time [hour prior to quake]. Washington, Yakima Valley: On the dial at WX Air VHF band around 153 we are getting the strangest signal. Anyone else hearing it or no what it is. HAARP maybe?"

Steadman continues, "Date: 2/28/01 7:21:39 PM Pacific Standard Time. Does anyone have recording of 153 MHZ signal? I helped install seismic monitoring stations in California in early 90's. They are designed as early warning system in detecting earth movements prior to big quake. Several of these were in the 153-154 band. They send data, but during a big shift they send a screeching sounding data burst. Let me know what you find out."

Ominously, two earthquakes along the North American-South American Pacific Rim occurred just following the electromagnetic EM environmental war signals - The Seattle-Vancouver earthquake, and an earthquake off Central America. Were these triggered by the same signals? The director of the ELFRAD group that monitors EM electromagnetic activity, including HAARP and other EM weapons writes, "Date: 2/28/01 1:55:52 PM Pacific Standard Time. Thought you might find this file interesting. It is a 21-hour recording starting this morning at 0001 hrs. We recorded intense activity from .02 to .036 hertz 473 minutes prior to the Washington quake. Actually this was a double boomer, because 4 minutes earlier there was also a quake registering 5.4 off the coast of Central America. Also am including a [picture] during the same time period for yesterday so that you can compare with no major quake."

Faced with the information on EM Environmental war and earthquakes, another researcher with the ELFRAD group wrote, "I take back my former statement that all earthquakes are natural. After reading the following article and tying this information in with Russian predictions of major earthquakes in Kamchatka this year, I'm ready to believe we're in for a lot of trouble..." The researcher then cites environmental war analysis also covered in EARTH CHANGES on possible tectonic warfare earthquakes: http://www.cheniere.org/misc/brightskies1.htm

Other researchers have found that the HAARP electromagnetic (EM) signal is carrying within it another hidden signal, whose frequency has been shown to affect the limbic system in the human brain, which manages emotions and mood and is a target of mind control intrusions. Some researchers have stated that mood management of human populations may be happening through these hidden EM frequencies. On February 17, just 11 days prior to the Seattle earthquake, according to ELFRAD".9 Hz signal, which as we've discussed, may be related to limbic (emotion) activation in the brain, occurred during the transmission, lasting a very unusual 42 minutes from 1200 hrs to 1400 hrs UTC (Coordinated Universal Time) on Saturday, 17 Feb 2001."

During the 1990s, the US Congress held hearings on HAARP's environmental impact statement. Former Congressman Ronald V. Dellums (D-Calif) strenuously objected to giving HAARP a Congressional go-ahead. Adversarial environmental impact analysis showed that HAARP's ionization of the ionosphere and magnetosphere might create runaway environmental mishaps like the Seattle-Vancouver earthquake. Despite these obvious large-scale hazards, the U.S. Navy then insisted that HAARP's electromagnetic (EM) broadcasts were safe and would not produce runaway tectonic or atmospheric impacts.

If the Seattle-Vancouver earthquake is in any way shown to have been affected by HAARP broadcasts - accidentally or intentionally - the environmental, social, and political consequences to the U.S. environmental EM war programs will be profound. These include incalculable domestic consequences for the U.S. Navy and the Bush Administration's plans for an expansion of electromagnetic EM weapons systems. In addition, HAARP's negative environmental impacts are of such an unprecedented scale that they would constitute blatant violations of the 1977 United Nations Treaty against Environmental Modification. Blatant U.S. violations of this treaty could result in a major embarrassment and isolation of the United States in the world community.

This EcoNews story continues to develop and will be updated at the EcoNews Environmental War Desk.

Environmental journalist Alfred Webre, a Yale Law School graduate, is a former member of the Governor's Emergency Task Force on Earthquake Preparedness, State of California, and author of a classic work on Earth Changes, THE AGE OF CATACLYSM (G.P. Putnam's Sons 1974).

EcoNews Service Copyright 2001

ECONEWS: ENVIRONMENTAL WAR DESK http://www.ecologynews.com/cuenewsdesk.html

EARTH ISLAND: "Project HAARP: The Military's Plan to Alter the Ionosphere" http://www.ecologynews.com/cuenewshaarp13.html

EARTH ISLAND: "Part II -- HAARP'S Environmental Dangers" http://www.ecologynews.com/cuenewshaarp14.html

EcoNews:"Was the Seattle-Vancouver earthquake triggered by environmental war?" http://www.ecologynews.com/cuenews12.html

BroJon: "What is HAARP - How it looks and Sounds. Has space war begun?" http://www.geocities.com/brojongazette/frontpage/bj1203.html

EcoNews:"EARTH CHANGES: Environmental Warfare & Global Earthquakes" http://www.universebooks.com/sampleearthchanges.html

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Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:50:40 -0700 From: "crscrt1" <crscrt1@home.com> Subject: care for a mind f---?

On Sept. 18, 1995, my testicles started to burn as if on fire. Around 10:00am, out of thin air, a female voice asked me if it hurt? Hell yes! The voice demanded I sit down so we could "talk". She asked me questions about family, friends, connections to groups, anybody that might be able to seek revenge on her. She asked me what I knew of the New World Order and to explain it to her. I did and she told me she was "hooked up and ready to go". After a couple hours she told me her time had come to get even. She asked me how I would like a mind f---? I replied, "Bring it on!". Voices out of nowhere were on my ass, I started seeing little tiny shadows coming out of electical outlets as well as the back of the tv and stereo. Up the wall, across the ceiling then disappearing. Friends and I both started having olfactory hallucinations. Roast beef cooking, chocolate cake baking, electrical wires burning, women's perfume, clove cigarettes and even dog feces. Fake door bell ringing, loud bass music in sync with the air conditioner, etc. The whole nine yards. The testicles continued to burn. She said I was being "smoked". One night I had five female voices in my right ear chanting, "breaking your eardrums", over and over again. I felt "waves" passing thru my head and body. If I sat still, no problem but move just a little, the pain was unbearable. I had chills. I began to feel things crawling on my body, in my nose, mouth, ears, top of my head and between my legs. It was like a nightmare but I had a clue it was all electronically done. At one time I went to the hospital to have my testicles checked. I also had tightness in the chest, shallow breathing. They put me on an EKG, watched my heart rate, took blood, etc. I had a friend with me who helped watch all the machines even when the doctors and nurses left the room to talk about me.You know what? Machines never changed. Heart rate was ok, EKG was normal, blood tests were normal and urinary analysis was normal, while I was being "smoked". They admitted me anyway just to monitor me. Walked out of there the next morning at 10:00am. Perfectly in fine condition although quite a few doctors had raised eyebrows. Now I've come to the conclusion that it's all hallucinations. I had to remember what the voice asked me. Why it took so long to remember? Memory loss. The result of being smoked on the top of the head. I've come to realize smoking is most likely V2S. The ringing, thumping, hissing, tones, beeps, clicks and static in my ears are all ways to help put you in a hypontic state. Drive you insane as well. What my perps call "pinworms", you know those little things that seem to be jabbed into my ears and nose and rectum? Hallucinations. Smelling things? Hallucinations. Seeing things? Hallucinations. The sharp jabbing pains in the muscles and joints? Could that be hallucinations, too? I've come to the conclusion, in my case, yes. It's been six years now of harrassment and I've found alot of ways around the pain. My (I'm possessive) perps spend thier day and night trying to "mess me up". For the last six months they haven't been successful. Here's what I do: realize it's a hallucination then realize I must be in a hypnotic trance. Usually I become disorientated, first clue. I swear by the ice packs because they bring me back to reality by creating "brain freeze', if you will. Ice packs on the head, forehead and back of neck works wonders. Remember, should you try this method, you got to keep the ice packs moving periodically or else the perps will try to "draw" (what my perps call operating) around the ice pack and then you've defeated your purpose. It helps to locate the exact point where I'm being "smoked" on my head.The point is to draw you out of the hypnotic state. Slapping my face helps too. I go out and work in the yard, watch tv, etc. anything to take my mind off what's going on. For the noises in my ears, just in case it might be subliminal, I wear a small radio on my belt with EARPHONES not headphones. I made that mistake when I purchased a radio with an antenna in the headphones. The perps drew imaginary headphones across my head from ear to ear then smoked the hell out of that spot. Playing the radio in my ears drowns out the voices and anything else they want me to hear. After a couple of hours when I begin to hear them again I either adust the volume accordingly or take the earphones off. It seems they have to reset everything again. I read a post yesterday that mentioned putting your hand in a pot or pan of water, works. By God, IT DOES! Discharges the current. Yippee!!!!!!!!! Anything to piss the perps off! Boy are they mad! Stops them from messing you up! I use to put a couple of drops of vinegar in the ears for the pinworms and that seemed to work successfully as well. It's acid. It works. But I realize now that when I start to experience pinworms I'm already hallucinating. I treat it accordingly. For burns, I read in a post that Vick's Vapor works to prevent but once you get the burn, vinegar will draw the heat out of it. Grandma's method for treating sunburns. Try it! Also, if you get symptoms of bronchitis and know it's not, try using Vick's Vapor Steam. It's menthol. Put a few drops in hot water, cover your head with a towel and breathe the vapors. I noticed somehting was wrong one day when the perps kept yelling at me to swallow. I later found out I was getting ill. Vick's stopped the whole process. I was at a website the other day, I don't remember the address, but the survivor, also from Phoenix, that's where I'm at, suggested letting "it" roll off your back. It helps. So does that higher power. Ignore the perps because it's a game to them and as long as you play along, they'll continue.In my case it's a mind f---. Hallucinations. Induced, yes, but still hallucinations. The pain too. Problem with my knee? Elbow? Anything else? Ice packs to the head and hand in a pan of water. Now that the perps know I know it's a mind f---, what will they pull next? Is the game over? With me, yes! crscrt1

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Date: Fri, 6-Apr-2001 03:30:02 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: RE: [CTRL] Evidence HAARP, ELF caused NW Quake examined by BC Gov't, Bri

ecotoday@aol.com wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > From John Quinn at Newshawk: > > Evidence HAARP, ELF caused NW Quake examined by BC Gov't, British TV > > From what we've seen, there is NO DOUBT the Feb. 28 > Seattle/Vancouver-area quake WAS -- DEFINITELY -- triggered by the U.S. > FedGov, using either their HAARP arrays, ULF transmissions or most > likely BOTH: working in conjunction to induce severe, VERY deep level > seismic upheaval in the targeted region.

In addition to this, a extremely detailed and lengthy report submitted to the Parliament of the EU by a Scientific Research Committee discusses Non-Lethal-Weapons as well as Psychotronic Systems. Not only do they discuss and describe the technology, they provide Fiscal figures in American dollars as to how much tech is being bought and sold by each Country that was included in the report. North American sources are named as being the largest supplier of this type of tech as well as being the largest suppliers for more conventional tech used in the torture and execution trade. The report even covers items such as mobile execution chambers and their features as described by the North American Manufacturers. What would you call one of these ? "The Welcome Wagon". Oddly enough, North American sources do not provide such detailed reports, and neither do they intimate the legitement concerns mentioned within the EU report, which is mainly "concerns about the horizontal and vertical" proliferation of these technologies. In other words the tech is made availabe to other interests besides Military and or Law Enforcement agencies. I would imagine from the implications of the report that the tech is available to any group or individual who has the money to buy it and the nerve to use it.

JV

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Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 20:46:36 -0700 From: chuck <xfiles@uswest.net> CC: mc@topica.com, mindcontrolforum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [MC] care for a mind f---?

When I read the CIA and DEA files on their research into the effects of torturing people with these devices in 1977 it was as if your letter could of been one of their reports. What you wrote is just what was in their reports of how they were torturing the targets with the implants. Chuck ------------------------------

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Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 06:41:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Flora Gedenberg <cheerful144@yahoo.com> Subject: Friday

Just to let you know my wonderful Higher Power has me in fine shape. Fit as a fiddle.

Yesterday they brought some trucks in two differant places and was messing with something electrical. It was a heavy dose for me to carry but my higher power carried it, I'm supposed to be raving mad by now and I'm just wonderfully in good shape.

One thing I've found, is not to answer the thoughts which I call artificial thoughts. But to keep you mind meditating on good things, as my higher power would have it.

I'm amazed myself, I don't know how many days this has been now around 33 or something like that. With the exception of the last time it took them 38 days and this time I don't know how long it's going to go on. I do know it's by no power of my own other then like I said the 12 steps of A.A., rigorous honesty, taking it a moment at a time and so on and trusting my higher power I am seemingly doing the impossible.

But before that I could not even withstand 20 minutes of this crap. I'm so grateful for all of you I'm so glad you are there.

God Bless Flora

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Date: Fri, 6-Apr-2001 21:13:32 GMT From: James R. Rose <eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com> Subject: Cerebral Blood Supply

Ecclesiastes :: The Segregated Fields :: :William James(1952), Principles of Psychology :: Cerebral Blood Supply :: The next point to occupy our attention is the "changes of circulation which accompany cerebral activity." All parts of the cortex, when electrically excited, produce alterations both of resperation and circulation. The blood-pressure rises, as a rule, all over the body, no matter where the cortical irritation is applied, though the motor zone is the most sensitive region for the purpose. Elsewhere the current must be strong enough for an epileptic attack to be produced.{ Francois-Franck: Fonctions motrices, Legion XXII. } Slowing and quickening of the heart are also observed, and are independent of the vaso-constrictive phenomenon. Mosso, using his ingenious "plethymograph" as an indicator, discovered that the blood-supply to the arms diminished during intellectual activity, and found furthermore that the arterial tension was increased in these members. So slight an emotion as that produced by the entrance of Professor Ludwig into the laboratory was instantly followed by a shrinkage of the arms.{ Mosso, La Paura (1884), page 117 } The brain itself is an excessively vascular organ, a sponge full of blood, in fact; and another of Mosso's inventions showed that when less blood went to the arms, more went to the head. The subject to be observed lay on a delicately balanced table which could tip downward either at the head or at the foot if the weight of either end were increased. The moment emotional or intellectual activity began in the subject, down went the balance at the head-end, in consequence of the blood redistribution of blood in the system. But the best proof of the immediate afflux of blood to the brain during mental activity is due to Mosso's observations on three person's whose brain had been laid bare by lesion of the skull. By means of apparatus described in his book,{ Mosso, La Paura (1884) }, this psychologist was enabled to let the brain-pulse record itself by direct tracing. The intra-cranial blood-pressure rose immediately whenever the subject was spoken to, or when he began to think actively, as in solving a problem in mental arithmetic. [ such would be the case of persons experiencing a forced stimulus as artificial conversation constructs of verbal expressions in the form of operant conditioning psuedo-affirmation brainwash and forced physical representations effecting the anatomy. Hypnopaedia-Hypnotism at a distance is complementary of operant conditioning. B. F.Skinner's career to mesh the schools of experimental psychology into a working mechanical enterprise.This would also be representative of Gestalt subliminal images. The segregated field as environmental and behavioral conditioning which has been permeated into our society. One must overcome the false training and confusion therein in order to comprehend the hidden intelligence as a force against the populaces of the world, for the controlling faction(s).]

Mosso gives in his work a large number of reproductions of tracings which show the instantaneity of the change of blood-supply, whenever the mental activity was "quickened" by any cause whatever, intellectual or emotional. He relates of his female subject that one day whilst tracing her brain-pulse he observed a sudden rise with no apparent outer or inner cause. She however confessed to him afterwards that at the moment she had caught sight of a "skull" on top of a piece of furniture in the room, and that this had given her a slight emotion.

[ This formatmat fits snugly into the uses of hidden Gestalt artwork in our environment. Along with specialized formatting concerning hidden communications to our minds and bodies as sources of forced stimulation and influeing capacity to alter perceptions. Also as relates to the psychophysical conditioning. A simple occurrence at your residence: Flys are thick around an open area. You get a flyswatter and begin killing flys, to which you are hearing as a surrogate artificial stimuli "I'll kill them all"Ah! I got you"Laughing, Ah! I got two in one" and this becomes a strange routine for altering the perception to killing, which can then be transferred to more hideous violence. Innocent enough as a masked and hidden source of conditioning which will be later utilized in a well conceived spread of mental constructs and physical manipulations toward these ends. See my entries concerning shaping and conditioning. While the electrical source of stimulation is effecting your body as a means of driving simultaneous mental activity guides the way. Over time these can become altered perceptions and cues for emotional outbursts such as is discussed in "Explosive Will" much like a teakettle on the stove. While seemingly inactive (building up of tension), the body is being driven physically which leads to greater sensitivity and a sense of fatigue. There are many combinations -repetitions and rotations to confuse the issues at had. ] The fluctuations of the blood-supply to the brain were independent of respiratory changes,{ In this conclusion M. Gley , (Archives de Physiologie [1881], page 742) agrees with Professor Mosso. Gley found hiss pulse rise 1-3 beats, his carotoid dilate, and his radial artery contract during hard mental work!!!} and followed the quickening of mental activity almost immediately. We must suppose a very delicate adjustment whereby the circulation follows the needs of the cerebral activity. [ Hypnopaedia-conditioning -substitute stimulies , whether by radio communicatio to your ears or by a transceiver, radio is capable of transmitting three separate signals on one station. Major broadcasting by commercial radio has the capability to have two less powerful broadcasts eminating from the same source signal. Recall that there are the three states of Charcot as relates to Hypnosis, and the splitting up of the conscious, subconscious, and the unconscious. In these terms that defines as one can be hypnotically instructed and the others will not be aware of the others. Your own worst enemy can be yourself by psychophysical manipulations. As history dictates, radio and hypnosis control was being utilized in 1930] Blood very likely may rush to each region of the cortex according as it is most active, but of this we know nothing [unobservable stimulus to others not feeling the choreographed orchestrations but, to the person feeling them and being caused to act-react in various ways and manners it is understandable. Such is the bipolar and paranoid schizophrenia being manipulated. Even your words can be but saturations of endless verbal repetitions and rotations dictated to your mind. "say it"say this"u just told us"_ _ _"u just said it"u said it"; gestures of particular movements can be produced on cue by instruction and paired to a tone to produce the movement later on cue. A series of such tones can produce complex movements-thoughts-emotions-sensations . . . . . . . . ]. I need hardly say that ""the activity of the nervous matter is the primary phenomenon, and afflux of blood its secondary consequence."" Many popular writers talk as if it were the other way about, as if mental activity were due to the afflux of blood. But, as Professor H. N. Martin has well said, "that belief has no physiological foundation foundation whatever ; it is even directly opposed to all that we know of cell life.{ Address before Med. And Chirurg. Society of Maryland, 1879 }, [ An indicator of the secret society even then existed ] A chronic pathological congestions which we have been considering "follow" the activity of the brain cells by an adaptive reflex vaso-motor mechanism doubtless as elaborate as that which "harmonizes blood-supply with cell-action [ electromagnetic effects to consider ] in any muscle or gland." Of the changes in the cerebral circulation during sleep, I will speak in the chapter which treats that subject.

""All Is Vanity""

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Date: Fri, 6-Apr-2001 22:52:46 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: Resources

Read bill.htm at link shown below

http://www.icom.ca/~mccoy/#eweapon

JV

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Date: Fri, 6-Apr-2001 23:37:08 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: Resources (2)

http://cryptome.org/dst-1.htm

JV

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Date: Sat, 7-Apr-2001 00:59:25 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: Resources (3)

http://www.europarl.eu.int/stoa/publi/default_en.htm

JV

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Date: Sat, 7-Apr-2001 01:10:03 GMT From: James R. Rose <eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com> Subject:

John I purchased a book that may be of some use to you.The author is Lawrence W. Meyers, Improvised Radio Jamming Techniques, Electronic Guerrilla Warfare(1989), Paladin Press, Boulder,Colorado. I bought it at the same time I bought Bench Tested Circuits, Tom Larsen. I think your familiar with the last book. The first book has many interesting details concerning transmissions and I think it may benefit you-us. I bought it at a Spyshop. Some of the info has interestingly turned up in my experiences with some of the mind control.It discusses trianglation of your enemy's transmissions,blockage,interference. Would help you more as your into that type of investigating.Hope your feeling better. Haven't heard much from you on your physical well being lately.I sent Wes some of the photos I've collected and haven't heard back from him yet. I got a new computer, so now am online at home. Feel free to e-mail.Thanx James.

""ALL IS VANITY""

""All Is Vanity""

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Date: Sat, 7-Apr-2001 02:35:31 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: MC Jammer ?

As posted from else where. I have not tried it so I can't say one way or another.

JV

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Simplest MC Jammer , patent rights preassigned to Sherry Schleicher, PARTS: acrylic glazing 6x10 inches or larger using wood or polystyrene can precipitate disasterous results, the breadboard is an active component. silicon npn transistor capable of operating at 250mhz, high gain, low noise Ideal: mrf901 will work: 2n2222 12v 3A centertapped power transformer 1meg potentiometer size "D" battery and holder alligator clip 12" jumper wires white, bic ballpoint pen superglue small, cheap drugstore AM radio with speaker &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& turn transistor upside down and glue near center of acrylic. place transformer near transistor , dont glue attatch pen barrel soda straw or similar to potentiometer shaft place battery and holder near transistor opposite transformer. dont glue device will cover about 200 sq ft (large bedroom ) and must be about 3' to 5' off floor ,at least 2' from wall &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& Collector to one secondary base to potentiometer to other secondary positive battery lead to center tap negative battery lead to emitter place radio near device tuned to vacant freq. adjust pot. -taking care to stay as far from transistor as possible- so that high pitched, week tone is just barely audible from radio. turn radio off and remove at least 4' from device. if necessary gluepot to 2x2 nylon square grasp tip of pen barrel gingerly and move at random SLOWLY. Without warning , whatever the problem is will abruptly decrease in severity. Let go of pot. Do Not try to readjust for better tuning- it cant be done. You have to get it close enoug h the first time, which is not as hard as it sounds. If you are not in severe pain or being MCd you will barely be able to detect proper tuning. If situation is severe, effects are dramatic and obvious.

JV

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Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 01:35:50 -0700 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> Subject: Remote viewing for kids and the "dark force"

Ex-intelligence officer Ed Dames is now promoting remote viewing to kids and wants to train them to perceive the "dark force" and create a "world with no secrets." This sounds a lot like a major new mind control operation to me. See http://mindazzle.com (a curious name). Does anyone know what he's up to? ------------------------------ __________________________________ Post to: mc@topica.com . Unsubscribe to: mc-unsubscribe@topica.com . List info: www.topica.com/lists/mc/

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"Mind Kontrol for Kids?" Battle Stations! Sound General Quarters! By cloudrider@aol.com

Psychiatry Committing Fraud By ultra21753@aol.com

RE: Remote viewing for kids and the "dark force" By frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca

RE: Remote viewing for kids and the "dark force" By frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca

re: ass't resources on hersha book, abuse and symptomology, olson By smartnews@aol.com

RE: Psychiatry Committing Fraud By frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca

RE: Psychiatry Committing Fraud By eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com

Re: Remote viewing for kids and the "dark force" By 1927@glasscity.net

Re: Remote viewing for kids and the "dark force" By 1927@glasscity.net

RE: Remote viewing for kids and the "dark force" By eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com

Saturday and I want to thankyou so much By cheerful144@yahoo.com

RE: "Mind Kontrol for Kids?" Battle Stations! Sound General Quarters! By west@sonic.net

Non-Lethal Weapons: Terms and References By ultra21753@aol.com

RE: Remote viewing for kids and the "dark force" By west@sonic.net

Corruption in Arizona By xfiles@uswest.net

Subcarrier Converter By eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com

Remote viewing By thefbiisthecatcherintherye@hotmail.com

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Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 13:29:22 EDT From: CloudRider@aol.com Subject: "Mind Kontrol for Kids?" Battle Stations! Sound General Quarters!

[Serious content analysis; relevant to list topics and "conspiracy theories" extant.]

Routing via: <cloudrider@aol.com>

From: Colonial Operations, StarFleet Command To: Terrestrial Cultural Protection / Arcturus Midway Station Subj: The Following (Instructions Appended, as are intelligence references)

In a message dated 4/7/01 4:35:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, west@sonic.netwrite: (to the "mind control" list, mc@topica.com )

> Subj: [MC] Remote viewing for kids and the "dark force" > Date: 4/7/01 4:35:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time > From: west@sonic.net (Wes Thomas) > Reply-to: west@sonic.net > To: mc@topica.com (Mind Control@Topica.com )> > Ex-intelligence officer Ed Dames is now promoting remote viewing to kidsand > wants to train them to perceive the "dark force" and create a "world with > no secrets." This sounds a lot like a major new mind control operation to > me. See http://mindazzle.com (a curious name). Does anyone know what he's up > to? > - - - - + ALERT FROM: ARCTURUS MIDWAY STATION / STARFLEET COMMAND COLONIAL OPERATIONS -- "EARTH"

All operatives to the flight deck! Sound general quarters! Battle stations!

Intelligence references appended. Taken together, "alien" campaigns converge .

All operatives and assets are alerted that "ET alien" expatriates (functioning as ET "mind parasites" of "psychic warriors" unprepared to discern and defend intrustion), we flushed from US military and intelligence cadres in Pentagonia into comparatively open fields of "Paranormia" are now beginning to make a move through their primary agents. Terrestrial counterforces are already mustered and operational (and online).

Timing is being driven by global break-down of "warming myth" in face of USaction re Kyoto Treaty w/ shift toward planetary climate science, instead of "junk science" and New Age apocalyptic "Earth Change" scenarios "channelled" by "E.T. aliens." American audience, primarily youth, are skeptical ofhopeless catastrophe theory.

Targeting of the US by "left" internationalists is being resisted by "right" globalists.

Also, coincident release of "CIA and NAZI documents," simultaneous with opening of papers of Charles A. Lindbergh, is factor in their timing. Thelatter reveal the depth of "Lindy's" Nazi sympathies and anti-Semitism, (Princeton University; see Assoc. Press report of 3/31/01, keyword "Lindbergh"). This connects to "mind control" and "UFOs," dating from post-World War II and early Cold War era. USMC Major Donald Keyhoe, primary founder of the central "conspiracy" organization, NICAP (National Investigations Committee for Aerial Phenomena), in the early 1950s, (quite logically covering up secret testing of captured Nazi "saucer craft" and conveniently other exotic aeronautical technologies, leading to contemporary "UFOlogy"), was a former close aide to Lindbergh, as well as an aviation "frontier" expert associate of Mr. L. S. Rockefeller, during his pre-WorldWar II activities and immediately post-WW II, and of Don Berliner, who became a NICAP leader upon the retirement of Major Keyhoe.

See X-Refs to "Project Paperclip," the US inclusion of former Nazis in American rocket and aerospace programs (and industries), as well as in fields of pharmacology and psychiatry, social engineering and propaganda. This was primarily to avoid offending American Jews and the new state of Israel by US exploitation of German and (to a lesser degree, primarily involving Bio-WarR&D) Japanese war-time science and technology. All of this was covered up (as well as to confuse USSR and PRC). ~ Bring all information to bear and focus on key individuals and organizations to protect Earth's children (planetary cultural future). Eschew obfuscation! Command clarity! In the face of news media penetration by competing globalists (Ted Turner vs. Rupert Murdoch, et al.) and international propaganda wars (France, UK, EU, Israel), don't let intentional confusion distract you. "Follow the money!" and use the "Matrix of UFO Beliefs." Key allies reside in Pentagon and intelligence communities, attempting to clear their agency names, enhance science and technical recruiting and detach the old guard who've subsequently retired and moved into private and non-profit sectors.

Enough said! "The Vallee Effect" is moving into Recharge Phase, when another cycle of Belief System Manipulation is erupting, using four major sources we ID'd.

Update as new intelligence arrives and is sifted. Do likewise. Feedback to StarFleet Command -- Colonial Ops, as warranted.

Route information via usual channels. Open-Source Only!!!

Move out! Now! This is what we've been expecting. Right on time!

Sunlight is the best disinfectant!

~ X-Refs.: Previous initiatives, i.e., "Ceto's New Friends," by Leah Haley, suspected USAF "mind control" victim and self-proclaimed "alien abductee" who went over to "their side" (Stockholm Syndrome; x-ref Patty Hearst, et al.), now "publishing" a line of books with her current husband. Her first book was "Lost is the Key." Alien line. Her narrative alleges "military co-operation" with "aliens" (Grays), similar to the late Dr. Karla Turner ("Beyond the Fringe"), although Dr. Turner did not "embrace" the ETs.

Higher level currently: Dr. John Mack's latest, "Passport to the Cosmos:Human Transformations and Alien Encounters." (A Global Mind Change psy-op treatise from a Rockefeller-funded psychiatrist with a long history of "borderline states" R & D experience and credentials in the global "peace"and "nuclear winter" movements, now promoting globalist "deep ecology" and Green political scenarios for "elites.")

Also, Dr. Courtney Brown's "Cosmic Explorers: Scientific Remote Viewing, Extraterrestrials, and a Message for Mankind." (Brown was trained by Ed Dames, then broke off to develop his own "Farsight Institute." Brown also teaches in Atlanta, where he "keeps separate" his academic "research," having previously been an associate at The Carter Center, now affiliated with Emory University. "New Ager."

Likewise, "Alien Impact: A Comprehensive Look at the Evidence of Human/Alien Contact," by Michael Craft, (formerly on staff at Omega Institute; New Ageguru).

Background chatter (traditional UFOlogy "pseudo-government cover-up") : "UFO FBI Connection: The Secret History of the Government Cover-Up," by Dr.Bruce Maccabee. (Camouflage "conspiracy" from current Navy laser scientist.)

Counter-valing "techno-UFO" offering:

"The Roswell UFO Crash: What They Don't Want You To Know:Spaceship...aliens...cover-up...hoax?" by Kal K. Korff.

A re-hash, primarily, but an effective "debunk" of retired Army Intelligence Col. Philip J. Corso's alleged role in Roswell "crashed saucer" myth, as per Corso's "The Day After Roswell" (1997). It links with Corso's other activities during Eisenhower era and subsequently involved with other"emotional" intelligence stories, i.e., POW/MIA conspiracies which at thesame time as "UFO paranoia" made the rounds of "militia-patriot" movements so as to contribute to atmosphere of impending Constitutional doom. (See: "The Men We Left Behind," by Mark Sauter and Jim Sanders (National Press Books,1993), for references to Col. Corso in another context (Op. cit, pages 43 and 352).

Specifically to Corso (and this puts him "in the know" for supposed Nazi UFO and "mind control" R & D to counter Communist Chinese "brainwashing" of USGIs): Page 43: "In early 1955, White House intelligence officer Philip Corso briefed Eisenhower on the POW situation. Ike already knew some Americans had been kept in North Korea and Chinese camps at the end of the war, and Corso told him that at least 800 had been packed like animals onto trains and shipped to Siberia. Corso, an experienced Army intelligence officer, predicted the Soviets would never acknowledge or release the men. And,despite Corso's personal view that Eisenhower was not tough enough on Moscow, the officer concluded that under current (1955) policy constraints there was no way to win the return of the prisoners." (Quoting from "The Men We Left Behind," and continuing...) "I recommended that the report not be made public because the POWs should be given up for being dead since we knew the Soviets would never relinquish them. Out of concern for the POWs' families, the President agreed," Corso recalled. According to Corso, his report on the POWs in Siberia "could never be made public and it never was." (End quote from "The Men We Left Behind.") - - - - +

Arcturus Midway Station (continued)

HOWEVER: The year before Sauter's and Sanders's book (which cited Corso as a key source) was published, a former Air Force officer (Strategic Air Command ) and Rutgers University professor of English and America Studies, Dr. H. Bruce Franklin, published "M.I.A. or Mythmaking In America: How and why belief in live POWs has possessed a nation." Franklin contends the "POW/MIA" story was a "right-wing" fabrication. Without "choosing up sides" in this issue, we should note that many "players" (Nationalists vs. Internationalists) are similar to the factions in UFOlogy. Some of the "players" are, indeed, identical. Similar observations can be made for the 1983-1992 era of StarWars (Ballistic Missile Defense Organization) programs vs. the "NuclearWinter" pacifist operations, key players of which, from both sides, later turned up in "UFOs" and "alien abduction" organizations playing "adversaries"

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Political blueprints for what these guys and UFO Opposition Force will do this time "out of the hangar" have been distributed previously, during the seven year "down-cycle," (as Dr. Vallee predicted in his research is atypical UFOlogical periodicity).

The "mind-influencing" element of UFOs and the "it's-the-government" victim orgs are converging, as was predicted by the "Matrix of UFO Beliefs"submitted to the White House in 1993, as part of the "backchannel" UFO Disclosure Initiative which L. S. Rockefeller later had to distance himself from, as UFO disinfo teams shot it down.

X-Ref: Dr. Stephen Greer vs. Marie "Bootsie" Galbraith and Don Berliner, etal.,leading to the "Rockefeller UFO Report," circulated in the US, UK &Germany.

X-Ref: Dr. Bruce Cornet's commentary: (well worth this scientist'sperspective) http://homepages.force9.net/abcfield/b_cornet/Vol_2/index.html

X-Ref: National Institute of Discover Science latest "report" on UFO Triangles National Institute for Discovery Science - http://www.nidsci.org ("CaveatEmptor")

(Following from latest NIDS e-mail release)

Low Flying Triangular Objects-A Safety Hazard

In late 1999, NIDS announced the creation of a 24-hour hotline [702-798-1700] to receive calls from the public regarding their sightings of unusual aerial phenomena. Since then, NIDS has reported only anecdotally on the large number of low flying triangular craft reports received. One of these cases involved the sighting by four policemen and several other eyewitnesses in Illinois on January 5, 2000. The case was thoroughly investigated by NIDS. Because of the high caliber eyewitnesses, the investigation gained considerable media attention and was the subject of an hour-long documentary TV program entitled UFOs over Illinois on the Discovery Channel. This program was shown several times in late 2000 and early 2001.

The purpose of the present paper is to publish a more complete summary of the 127 reports that NIDS has received in the past 14 months on the triangular craft phenomenon. Secondly, we ask the question: Does the reported low altitude of these aircraft constitute a safety issue in the United States? Although NIDS receives information on these triangular craft from overseas, by far the greatest number have come from within the United States. It should be emphasized that the craft performance characteristics in these 127 reports is generally not consistent with any acknowledged aircraft being currently deployed by the United States military. The recurring characteristics of the objects described in this report are: (1) Flying at low or very low altitude; (2) Huge or large; (3) Flying silently; (4) Hovering or flying very slowly (less than 100 MPH); (5) Very brightly lit, sometimes with multi-colored lights. The majority (60.5%) of the reports in the NIDS database describe recent events that occurred between January 1999 and present.

We report here that the extremely low altitudes of these triangular aircraft, as reported by dozens of eyewitnesses from dozens of separate locations in the United States, probably constitutes a public safety hazard and should be investigated by appropriate authorities. The full report can be found on the NIDS web site http://www.nidsci.org in the What's New section.

[END NIDS RELEASE]

ARCTURUS MIDWAY STATION (continues) -- X-Ref the above "scenario" with possible exotic aircraft (stealth, etc.) involvement in US Air crash near Pittsburgh? Better to suggest "alien craft" than a secret aircraft?

~

X-Ref: Paradigm Research Group "Update" (Note: Paradigm Research Group has emerged as one of the principle "clearing houses" for a range of "UFOlogical"and scientific cover-up/conspiracy content, while spearheading ostensible"disclosure." ~

PRG Paradigm Research Group

April 4, 2001 - Update

PRG Moving

Paradigm Research Group is relocating its office. Due to problems with Verizon's Info Speed ISDN subsidiary, the phone will be down until April 11. You can contact PRG by email (preferable) at ParadigmRG@aol.com, or byphone at this temporary number: 301-680-3825. When PRG completes relocation, the office will have four networked computer stations, two ISP connections,two printers, a scanner, a cable modem, an extensive UFO/ET research library, and an equally extensive library of the latest science journalism focusing on cutting edge physics, astrophysics, and cosmology. All of which will be helpful with respect to...............

Volunteer Support Network

During the past five years PRG has been approached by a number of individuals offering to directly assist with the politics of disclosure. Many of them are located in the Washington metro area.

Soon these fine people will be contacted as to their availability to work directly on projects at the PRG office. An attempt will be made to determine what skills and background are relevant to the ongoing work.

Further, supporters outside the area will be contacted regarding assisting with projects from their home computer.

Anyone who is inclined to get down and personal with the activist movement to end the cover-up of the UFO/ET reality, should contact PRG, preferably by email.

Lobbying

PRG is still seeking organizations who would have it register on their behalf as a lobbyist. Time to get on board the truth train, truth train, truth trainnnn.............

Media Shake Out

Recently the X-Zone and Nightsearch radio programs shutdown. Nightsearch was hosted by Eddie Middleton and ateam of co-hosts including Janet Russell. X-Zone was hosted by Rob McConnell and included the Hickman Report. Sometime back the Mike Jarmus Show closed.

All are in the process of finding new homes.

The level of interest in UFO/ET phenomena in particular, and the paranormal in general, along with the developing webcasting technology, has made it possible for a great many people to create radio programs in this genre. The market place has become quite crowded. All of these programs have helped to raise awareness and provided venues and media practice for researchers and activists. However, until formal disclosure has been achieved, the audience will be limited and the market tight.

When the time comes, however, there will be a sizable number of experienced hosts ready to take on a much expanded audience and their limitless questions.

The Disclosure Project (CSETI)

The rampup to this event is going smoothly. All interested parties should be prepared for dramatic developments in May and June.

The Paradigm Clock

The Paradigm Clock will be reset on May 15. Expect a surprise.

Meta Research Press Conference

Astronomer Tom Van Flandern will conduct a press conference in the main room

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Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 13:45:48 EDT From: Ultra21753@aol.com Subject: Psychiatry Committing Fraud

Psychiatry Committing Fraud

The organization 'Citizens Commission on Human Rights' has released a booklet called "Psychiatry Committing Fraud".

The booklet outlines the abuses and fraud committed by the American Mental Health System. I placed acopy of a PDF file of the booklet on the URL listed below. The file is around 1.9 Meg and will take around 7 minutes to download on a 56K modem. It is worth the download time and may add some insight into why sonic non-lethal weapons are being used against mentally ill people. I believe that the mental health system is actively seeking out mentally ill people and attacking them with sonic non-lethal weapons so they can be driven out of control, forcibly committed to mental institutions, and forcibly drugged with prescribed medications for the remainder of their life.

Psychiatry Committing Fraud URL: http://hometown.aol.com/ultra21753/fraud.pdf

Main Web Page: http://hometown.aol.com/ultra21753/

Thank You, ultra21753@aol.com

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Date: Sat, 7-Apr-2001 18:15:23 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: RE: Remote viewing for kids and the "dark force"

Wes Thomas wrote: > Ex-intelligence officer Ed Dames is now promoting remote viewing to kids >

ESP for Dummies.

and > wants to train them to perceive the "dark force" and create a "world > with no secrets."

Yup, no secrets, but the same ol' BS

> This sounds a lot like a major new mind control operation to > me. See http://mindazzle.com (a curious name). Does anyone know what > he's up to? >

JV

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Date: Sat, 7-Apr-2001 18:17:11 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: RE: Remote viewing for kids and the "dark force"

>Does anyone know what he's up to? $

JV

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Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 14:18:19 EDT From: SMARTNEWS@aol.com Subject: re: ass't resources on hersha book, abuse and symptomology, olson

Dear List,

Please find these resources below.

Sincerely, Neil Brick

These may be heavy for survivors of abuse to read.

Cheryl Hersha's (co-author of "Secret Weapons - Two Sisters' Terrifying True Story of Sex, Spies and Sabotage" by Cheryl and Lynn Hersha with DaleGriffis, Ph D. and Ted Schwartz. New Horizon Press, P O Box 669 Far Hills, NJ07931 - ISBN 0-88282-196-2) response to: "Secret Weapons: Whitewashing CIA Mind Control Atrocities," by Uri Dowbenko is at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/psnews/message/302

Early sexual abuse and low cortisol. King JA, Mandansky D, King S, Fletcher KE, Brewer J Psychiatry Clin Neurosci 2001 Feb; 55(1):71-4 - " Post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) is a mental health disorder precipitated by a stressful event that produces fear or terror in the individual.Post-traumatic stress disorder studies, particularly in early sexual abuse, have been associated with neuroendocrine dysfunction, most notably thehypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal (HPA) axis....The present study shows that subjects who had been abused within the last couple of months had significantly lower cortisol in comparison to control subjects...The data suggest that children may have an impaired HPA axis after early trauma."

What Did the C.I.A. Do to Eric Olson's Father? - by Michael Ignatieff - "for a quarter of a century, a close friend of mine, a Harvard classmate, hasbelieved that the Central Intelligence Agency murdered his father, a United States government scientist. ....On June 11, 1975, The Washington Postrevealed that a commission led by Vice President Nelson Rockefeller had discovered that "a civilian employee of the Department of the Army unwittingly took LSD as part of a Central Intelligence Agency test" and "developed serious side effects." http://www.nytimes.com/2001/04/01/magazine/01OLSON.html?ex=3D987215818&ei=3D1&en=3D7

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The Olson File - A secret that could destroy the CIA - by Kevin Dowling andPhillip Knightley - "in 1975 the Rockefeller Commission, ...to examine theextent of the CIA's illegal domestic operations, revealed that an unnamed army scientist had died after CIA experts, experimenting with mind-bending drugs, had secretly slipped him a dose of potent LSD. During the ensuing uproar, the scientist was identified as Frank Olson....CIA director, William Colby, held a lunch for Mrs Olson and Eric in his office at the CIA, apologised and gave them the CIA file on the case. According to the file, Olson had suffered a "chemically-induced psychotic flashback" a week after he had been slipped the dose of LSD. So a CIA doctor, Richard Lashbrook, had been deputed to look after Olson until he was normal again." The article discusses alternative theories to Olson's death to the one commonly known http://www.frankolsonproject.org/Articles/LondonMail.html

Rorschach correlates of sexual abuse: Trauma content and aggression indexes. Kamphuis JH, Kugeares SL, Finn SE J Pers Assess Oct 75(2):212-224, 2000"clients with definite sexual abuse scored significantly higher than clients known not to be sexually abused on J. G. Armstrong and R. J. Loewenstein's(1990) Trauma Content index (TC/R)...Although TC/R was strongly associated with the presence and severity of sexual abuse, it could not discriminate sexually abused from nonsexually abused clients with great accuracy. The TC/R score is one factor among many that can be used to assess the validity of clients' claims of past sexual abuse."

Child sexual abuse and later disordered eating: A New Zealand epidemiological study. Romans SE, Gendall KA, Martin JL, Mullen PE Int J Eat Disord 2001 May;29(4):380-92 "CSA women with ED (CSA+ED) were compared with CSA women without ED (CSA-noED) and with CSA women with anxiety and/or depression (psychiatric comparison group). RESULTS: Higher rates of EDs in women who have experienced CSA were confirmed in this study."

Child sexual abuse as a predictor of psychiatric co-morbidity and its implications for drug and alcohol treatment. Jarvis TJ, Copeland J Drug &Alcohol Dependence 1997 Dec 49(1):61-69, 1997 "Explores the associationbetween child sexual abuse (CSA) and psychological co-morbidity among 180 women (aged 16-69 yrs) receiving either drug and alcohol treatment or CSA counseling....Results show that Ss reported elevated levels of anxiety, somatisation, and dissociation but not depression. Higher rates of self-harm, eating disorders and sexualdysfunction were also reported by CSA survivors. Women with a history of both CSA and substance abuse were more likely to have attempted suicide than other women."

Childhood sexual abuse and bulimic behavior in a nationally representativesample. Wonderlich SA, Wilsnack RW, Wilsnack SC, Harris TR Am J Public Health 86(8, Pt 1):1082-1086, 1996 "representative national sample of 1,099 USwomen... Findings suggest that childhood sexual abuse is a risk factor for bulimic behavior. Between one-sixth and one-third of the cases of significant bulimic disturbance could be attributed to childhood sexual abuse."

Childhood sexual abuse and women's substance abuse: National survey findings.Wilsnack S C, Vogeltanz ND, Klassen AD, Harris TR J Studies Alcohol May58(3): 264-271, 1997 "national survey of women's drinking, 1,099 US women (aged 21 yrs & older) were asked about sexual experiences occurring beforeage 18....Results... indicated that women with histories of CSA were significantly more likely than women without CSA histories to report recent alcohol use, intoxication, drinking-related problems and alcohol dependence symptoms; lifetime use of prescribed psychoactive drugs and illicit drugs;depression and anxiety; pain that prevented intercourse; and consensual sexual intercourse before age 15."

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Date: Sat, 7-Apr-2001 18:27:16 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: RE: Psychiatry Committing Fraud

ultra21753@aol.com wrote: > Psychiatry Committing Fraud

Law Enforcement, their informants and the Psych Community to be exact.

JV

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Date: Sat, 7-Apr-2001 18:42:09 GMT From: James R. Rose <eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: Psychiatry Committing Fraud

John Vincent wrote: > > ultra21753@aol.com wrote: > > Psychiatry Committing Fraud > > > >I believe that the mental > > health system is actively seeking out mentally ill people and attacking > > > > them with sonic non-lethal weapons so they can be driven out of control, > > forcibly committed to mental institutions, and forcibly drugged with > > prescribed medications for the remainder of their life. > > Law Enforcement, their informants and the Psych Community to be exact. > > JV

Don't forget the military personel being driven into the use of psyche meds under the premise of aquiring financial assistance. Many think in terms of being exposed to chemicals, dismissing the MC effects and continuation thereof. As for persons being mentally ill, they arer made to appear that way. Many do not have the resolve nor fortitude to get through the ordeal. Those that do may end up in a jam as a result of the various spreads of artificial programming drives. The over ride is inhibiting and projecting in a double alternating manner as relates to the Brady, Liddell, and Solomon entries.

""All Is Vanity""

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Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 14:56:49 -0800 From: Pat Mougey <1927@glasscity.net> CC: "Mc@Topica. Com" <mc@topica.com> Subject: Re: [MC] Remote viewing for kids and the "dark force"

Wes Thomas wrote:

I heard him mention that this was a training kit to upgrade intuition, awareness etc. He then added for anything more the regular training course in Remote Viewing would be necessary.

He stressed helping children first.

Pat Mougey

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Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 14:58:38 -0800 From: Pat Mougey <1927@glasscity.net> CC: "Mc@Topica. Com" <mc@topica.com> Subject: Re: [MC] Remote viewing for kids and the "dark force"

Wes Thomas wrote:

I heard him mention that this was a training kit to upgrade intuition, awareness etc. He then added for anything more the regular training course in Remote Viewing would be necessary.

He stressed helping children first. If the parents purchase it, you can be sure most of themwould be right there practicing/ learning the process at the same time their kids do.

Pat Mougey

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Date: Sat, 7-Apr-2001 19:44:56 GMT From: James R. Rose <eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: Remote viewing for kids and the "dark force"

Check out the unknowncountry.com and the artbell.com to see how many are already experiencing voices,visuals,vivid dreaming. "its the truth"u kno it"your get n it"its us"urself"ur dead"its us", sequences leave no room, the side bar of the "motor circle...........

""All Is Vanity""

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Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 13:22:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Flora Gedenberg <cheerful144@yahoo.com> Subject: Saturday and I want to thankyou so much

for the prayers you are saying for me, and I am praying for you all also. I'm praying about four to six times a day for Christ to bind, reverse, and destroy the machines, as Whitley Strieber has a group of people who are praying also.

I'm asking God to put a bubble of protection around each of us who are being hammered, and around our homes and our minds, body and spirit I'm asking the machines reverse them selves.

It's Saturday and last nite was a long one. But other then being exausted, totally, I'm doing fine, my mind is sharp and I'm holding up well.

I may have to go to bed for the rest of the day, I am just exausted, like I've stated, But I'm fine mentally. And so far, and what is this something like 34 days of hammering? My mind is in wonderful shape.

You'd of died laughing if it were'nt so stupid, they've had trucks "fixin" my electric lines to the house, And all of a sudden my sewer is all messed up too, they've been down in the manhole in the back of my house. I asked the "repair" man what was wrong, and he gave me a sheepish look and said.."oh nothing, we're just taking a look" ha.I didn't call anyone, but those trucks have been there about three days, they give me a couple shots of it and then wait like mongral dogs for me to come running out of the house mad as a hatter, I don't so ha, they go back and work some more on the lines and wait, it's been going on like that.

(When they give me shots of this stuff my mind weaves in and out, and I'm almost like I'm asleep, and suddenly jerk awake. And then I have to use my A.A. program, because the "artifical thoughts" come out" and since I'm powerless I leave the rest to my Higher Power. He's doing wonderful, I'm just exausted.

Ha, if it weren't so pathetically stupid, I tell you? I own nothing but a computer that runs when it feels like it, a little doggie that is so ugly she's cute, and some hair pins. I've been laughing to myself, I'm a 60 year old granny and they have to get out the big guns for granny and her .....ha.....dangerous hair pins.....ha. Oh these morons are so incredibly ignorant, they would make a moron shine way above them.

God Bless America Flora

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Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 14:43:54 -0700 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@