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Hypnotism By William James(1952) By eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com

MC:Did Williams' counselor activate suicide program as well as murder program? By ecotoday@aol.com

Re:MC:Did Williams' counselor..... By eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com

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Date: Thu, 15-Mar-2001 00:38:04 GMT From: James R. Rose <eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com> Subject: Hypnotism By William James(1952)

Ecclesiastes :: The Segregated Fields ::: William James, Principles of Psychology(1952):: Hypnotism (continued) Changes in nutrition of the tissues can be produced by suggestion. These effects lead into therapeutics--a subject which I do not propose to treat of here. But I may say there seems no reasonable ground for doubting that in certain chosen subjects the suggestion of a congestion, a burn, a blister, a raised papule, or a bleeding from the nose or skin, may produce the effect. Messrs. Beaunis, Berjon, Bernheim, Bourru, Burot, Charcot, Delboeuf, Dumontpallier, Focachon, Forel, Jendrassik, Kraft-Ebing, Liebault, Liegeois, Lipps, Mabille, and others have recently vouched for one or the other of these effects. Messrs. Delboeuf and Liegeois have annulled by suggestion, one the effects of a burn, the other of a blister. Delboeuf was led to his experiments after seeing a burn on the skin produced by suggestion, at the Salpetriere, by reasoning that if the idea of a pain could produce inflammation it must be because pain was itself an inflammatory irritant, and that the abolition of it from a real burn ought therefore to entail the absence of inflammation. He applied the actual cautery ( as well as well as vesicants ) to symmetrical places on the skin, affirming that no pain should be felt on the sides. The result was a dry scorch on that side, with ( as he assures me ) no after-mark, but on the other side a regular blister with suppuration and a subsequent scare. ""This explains the innocuity of certain assaults made on the subject during trance."" To test simulation, recourse is often had to sticking pins under their finger-nails or through their tongue [ body piercing craze-self mutalation addiction is what is being termed by counselors and psychological professionals ], to inhalations of strong ammonia, and the like. These irritations, when not felt by the subject, seem to leave no after-consequences. One is reminded of the reported non-inflammatory character of the wounds made on themselves by dervishes in their pious orgies. [ guess they were running amuck in his time period also, although on a smaller scale, and since the populace was smaller was known even then, which leads to our overwhelming epic siege of the present; see http://www.hypnotism.org for some of these chicaneries ] On the other hand, the reddenings and bleedings of the skin along certain lines or pressing objects thereupon, put the accounts handed down to us of the stigmata of the cross appearing on the hands, feet, sides, and forehead of certain Catholic mystics in a new light. [ all of the Catholic priests which have been subjected to pedaphile behavior over the years; see http://www.delphiassociates.com ( this is one of the sites I have named as having the Gestalt artwork deceptively hidden in the backgrounds sceneries for those observant enough to depict them consciously ) for some interesting reading; consider the direction-position our country has taken against its own people both privately and institutionally ]. As so often happens, a fact is denied until a welcome interpretation comes with it. Then it is admitted readily enough; and evidence judged quite insufficient to back a claim, so long as the Church had an interest in making it, proves to be quite sufficient for modern scientific enlightenment, the moment it appears that a reputed saint can thereby be classed as "a case of hystero-epilepsy." [ Ecclesiastes for the for the Ecclesiastians ]

There remains two other topics, viz., post-hypnotic effects of suggestion, and effects of suggestion in the waking state.

Post-hypnotic, or deferred, suggestions are such as are given to the patients during trance, to take effect after waking. They succeed with a certain number of patients even when the execution is named for a remote period--months or even a year, as in one case reported by M. Liegeois. [ see also where M. Jules Binet's patient raised her hand to her nose when he was in her presence after having not been for a year, he apparrently did not clean her slate prior to his leave. ] In this way one can make the patient feel pain, or be paralyzed, or be hungry or thirsty, or have an hallucination, positive or negative, or perform some fantastic action after emerging from his trance. The effect in question may be ordered to take place not immediately, but after an interval of time has elapsed, and the interval may be left to the subject to measure, or may be marked by a certain signal. The moment the signal occurs, or the time is run out, the subject, who until then seems in a perfectly normal waking condition, will experience the suggested effect. In many instances, whilst thus obedient to the suggestion, he seems to fall into the hypnotic condition again. " This is proved by the fact that the moment the hallucination or suggested performance is over he forgets it, denies all knowledge of it, and so forth; and by further fact that he is "suggestible" during "it's" , [ live choreographed psychodramas-linguistic fictions-hypothetical constructs of hypnosis at a distance; I am able to percieve many that have and are taking place everyday as a result of my having experiences with criminal hypnosis ], performance, that is, will recieve new hallucinations, etc., at command. A moment later and this suggestibility has disappeared. It cannot be said, however, that relapse into the trance is an abosolutely necessary condition for the post-hypnotic carrying out of commands,""for the subject may be neither suggestible or amnesic, and may struggle with all the strength of his will against the absurdity of this impulse which he feels rising in him, he knows not why."" In these cases, as in most cases, he forgets the circumstance of the impulse having been suggested to him in a previous trance;

[ "shrugg it off"_ _ _"_ _ _", continuation of verbalizations, and inability to retain numerically the ongoing information, I have found this to be an irritating event, as well as a conditioned sensation ( Pavlov-paired associates-stimulus-response ) for later use in manipulations of actions; See A. R. Luria, The Working Brain, An Introduction to Neurology(1973) ]; ""regards it as have arising within himself; and often improvises, as he yields to it, some more or less plausible or ingenious motive by which to justify it to the lookers-on.""

[ Again the verbal series arrangements, "its your excuses"I'll _ _ _"ur dum"u did it"u keep for get n it"its ur self"_ _ _"......... , "there are many ways to manipulate a person"("ther r min e wa's to ma nip u lat a per un"sun"look at the sun"(after-image effect upon sight, spots moving with eyes, and as the heartrate is being manipulated, excessively beating, causes the image to last for a longer period. I term these the photic drives, and in turn, is an additional forced stimulus to contend with in the constant stimuli repetitions and rotations thereof. The format is such that it amounts to operant conditioning chains as forced stimulation; for the people not 'hearing voices', is simply a complex variation of the interviening variables for purposes of confusing the issues as relates the larger perspective(s); plurals, always plurals. ]

{ Bugelsky, An Introduction to Psychology(1973)""The ability to predict behavior in any situation and to be content with predictions would not be a science of psychology or a science at all. It would be an elaborate calculation enterprise, and only a very complex computational and technological achievement if it were successful. If the system included the possibilty of not only predicting perfectly but also of controlling ( conditioning ) perfectly, it would be only that much more of a technological masterpiece. When something exists in an unobservable form we can only study 'its' effects. The only alternative is speculation or hypothesization. The humunculous becomes a "self," a soul, a mind, a thinker, decision maker, he dreams our dreams and makes our plans, makes up our minds. The humunculous is autonomus. When we fall asleep, the humunculous has free reign and sometimes does or says things "we" might not want to admit to others. When concepts are defined in terms of measurement or some statement of procedural routine, we have defined the concept "operationally." "Operational definitions" are highly regarded in science. When we have defined something operationally, we have spelled out a procedure for producing the event or phenomenon or object. The human being is a programmed machine analogous to a kind of computer which, given a certain input ( signals-instructions ), generates a given and predictable output ( behavior ). }

He acts, in short, with his usual sense of personal spontaneity and freedom; and the disbelievers in the freedom of the will will have naturally made much of these cases in their attempts to show it to be an illusion.

""All Is Vanity""

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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 20:16:11 EST From: Ecotoday@aol.com CC: econews@ecologynews.com Subject: MC:Did Williams' counselor activate suicide program as well as murder program?

Notice: This post contains information which may be enlightening or confrontational. If the latter, consider deleting. Thank you. _______ This opinion post by John Quinn of Newshawk raises a valuable perspective. re: Santana High. Query: Why might "Santana High" have been chosen for any mind control triggering Alfred Webre, Vancouver, BC

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Did Williams' counselor activate suicide program as well as murder program?

Now we know the TRUTH: that mere minutes before Charles Andrew Williams unleashed his murderous assault at Santana High last week, he went raging out of a session with an "anger management" counselor/facilitator, and soon after began shooting -- beginning in the bathroom right down the hall from the counseling room.

This was positively witnessed by another male student also in the counseling room at the time Williams left, and related by that student to his father who in turn told it to San Diego area reporter Ron Luck. The parent indicated that other people were also aware of the fact Williams had abruptly and angrily stormed out of the session right before the killing began, and was quite upset the matter hadn't been pursued with much greater fervor by law enforcement and the media.

And NOW we know THIS truth also: that Williams was very DEFINITELY about to commit suicide before he was apprehended and taken into custody after shooting a total of fifteen people.

We noted in a previous bulletin that INVARIABLY, subjects of mind control procedures who have been used in high-priority clandestine and often deadly operations of one sort or another subsequently have their previously-inculcated "suicide program" activated, so that no possible (inadvertent or other) testimony from the mind-controlled operative will ever see the light of day.

The question that now arises is: did Williams' "anger management" facilitator facilitate not ONLY the mass shooting enacted by Williams but ALSO the suicide program that Williams ALMOST put into motion? </XMP> >>

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Date: Thu, 15-Mar-2001 02:03:43 GMT From: James R. Rose <eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com> Subject: Re:MC:Did Williams' counselor.....

In my opinion he was already thoroughly saturated with algebraic repetitions and rotations of phrase-verbal expressions-operant chains toward the ends that were committed. The cresendoing effect of which is discussed in my entries can occur at any time over any significant or virtually any insignificant event by the "explosive will." See the entry on "Could This Be You" located inthe archives concerning a California man driving his car into a nursery grounds after several years of of the operant conditioning-hypnopaedia-hypnosis-artificially created experimental neurosis conditionings."its us"its us"we're laf n"u cant do nuth n about it-us"ur such a chump"ur b n made a fool of"ur go n to wind up go n off"u awta get a gun"kil some one"ur one"ur get n it"ur it"we're laf n"kil n u"its us"___"(identifier)ur the on er i est man"kil n"its ur on es t"ur dum"u did it"its ur self"no body go n to be leve u-ya" no one"kil n u-ya"its the on ly way to stop this"kil n"u keep for get n it-this".....

""All Is Vanity""

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Digest for mc@topica.com, issue 502

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Mind control ia post-traumatic-stress situations By west@sonic.net

Art Bell disinformation By Tweeket@webtv.net

RE: Art Bell disinformation By west@sonic.net

More Art Bell disinformation By Tweeket@webtv.net

MK-ULTRA returns? By west@sonic.net

RE: Mind control ia post-traumatic-stress situations By frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca

RE: Mind control ia post-traumatic-stress situations By west@sonic.net

Nick Begich, HAARP, /Eleanor White & Cheryl Welsh. By 1927@glasscity.net

Net Currents By frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca

Conditioned Sensation-Psychophysical By eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com

Paired Associates-Nonsense Sylla By eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com

scrambling? By wendy.best@dialog.com

RE: Nick Begich, HAARP, /Eleanor White & Cheryl Welsh. By west@sonic.net

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Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:36:25 -0800 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> Subject: Mind control ia post-traumatic-stress situations

An example of the deliberate use of post-traumatic-stress situations for mind control.

New York Times, March 5, 2001 U.S. Aids Conversion-Minded Quake Relief in El Salvador By DAVID GONZALEZ

GUADALUPE, El Salvador, March 3 - An American evangelical relief group that is using private donations and United States government money to help victims of two earthquakes has blurred the line between church and state as its volunteers preach, pray and seek converts among people desperate for help.

Residents of several villages said volunteers from Samaritan's Purse, which has received more than $200,000 from the United States Agency for International Development and is to receive a second similar amount, has held half-hour prayer meetings before showing them how to build temporary homes of metal and plastic provided by the American government.

According to interviews with numerous villagers here and elsewhere in this predominantly Roman Catholic country, volunteers of the Protestant group have distributed religious tracts and asked them to accept Jesus Christ as their savior.

"They said a lot, but the principal thing was God and that earthly things do not matter," said Óscar Romero, a villager putting finishing touches on his house....

That message is central to its relief work, according to the group's Web page, which quotes its president and chairman, Franklin Graham, son of the evangelist Billy Graham. The Web page notes that in one village where the group provided supplies, 150 Salvadorans converted after watching a movie about Jesus....

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Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:58:09 -0800 (PST) From: Tweeket@webtv.net (Cindy Moede) Subject: Art Bell disinformation

Anybody catch Art bell last night? The guest William Thomas, subject chemtrails- he said chemtrail residue contains toxic bacteria and fungi citing lab reports that are 100% conclusive - positively identifing the pathogens. The name of the lab was not mentioned. It reminded me of two old ladies Gossiping!! I used to enjoy Art Bell before I joined this list. Now I see it as a bunch of sensationalism geared toward sales of their survival products. You guys opened my eyes... thanks for that-- BUT YA RUINED ME!!! Now I cant even get a good scare going listening to Art Bell. (my favorite!)

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Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:18:35 -0800 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> Subject: RE: [MC] Art Bell disinformation

Follow the money: http://www.unitoday.net/dist/PgRoot.htm?id=willthomas Conspiracy sells!

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Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:30:11 -0800 (PST) From: Tweeket@webtv.net (Cindy Moede) Subject: More Art Bell disinformation

I almost forgot! They (Richard Thomas I think) also mentioned that Russia said they would be willing to use their weather control technology to create a cyclone to put out the fires in Libya (??or somewhere) the first one free and after that it will cost. I joke around about stuff like that "Honey, theres a tornado in the back yard !! Did you pay the Haarp bill ths month??"

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Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:11:41 -0800 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> Cc: <CloudRider@aol.com>, <KKasten@mednet.ucla.edu> Subject: MK-ULTRA returns?

LSD experimentation is back. They got smarter this time and are using subjects in Switzerland and Russia, safely out of the purview of U.S. human experimentation protocols and (in Russia) under the supervision of likely FSB (formerly KGB) psychiatrists like Krupitsky, who is using ketamine, likely the most powerful mind-control drug ever invented (http://mir.drugtext.org/maps/news-letters/v6n3/06319ket.shtml , http://www.freedomdomain.com/mindcontrol/mkultra01.html ).

Note funding by CIA cutout Laurence S. Rockefeller, purveyor of "alien" disinformation to cover mind control experiments. See:

http://www.visitations.com/mindnet/MN137.htm

"The mind control is central to the function of the disks. They came together after WW II, because Laurence Rockefeller and other national security wigs went to Germany to study the advanced technology at Penemunde, Himmler's redoubt and the source of the Japanese economic "miracle" - also the R&D center of the disks. Years later, Laurence headed up a UFO study group. Of course, they depended heavily on "aliens." Of course, Laurence today funds Scott-Jones, et.al."

and

http://www.towardfreedom.com/may98/messing.htm

"... the CIA was forced to abandon the MK-ULTRA project in the 60s. But the effort to manipulate minds and blame the victims didn't end; it simply moved from public institutions to cults and private foundations, facades less open to public scrutiny. As a result, the Human Ecology Fund has been replaced by groups such as the Human Potential Foundation in Falls Church, Virginia, founded by Sen. Claiborne Pell and lavishly funded by Laurence Rockefeller."

Also, do a search (or read Acid Dreams) for members of the advisory panel at http://www.heffter.org/ for some revealing connections. For example, Janiger:

http://victorian.fortunecity.com/daddio/202/mindctrl.html

"Many victims of the CIA-anchored experimentation have been left with multiple personalities induced at a young age, and it is certain that the CIA can trigger induced multiple personalities electronically from a remote source to commit any act on cue the ultimate Manchurian Candidate. Under Dr. West's tutelage at UCLA, parapsychology experiments of another sort were conducted by Kirlian aura researcher Thelma Moss, a writer for television and a human guinea-pig herself in LSD experiments conducted in 1957. Three years later, as a UCLA psychology student, she designed protocols for her own LSD experiments under the supervision of Dr. Oscar Janiger.

"The CIA, of course, could not be far away. Dr. Janiger's supplier of the drug was the legendary Captain Al Hubbard, the Johnny Appleseed of LSD. "Nothing of substance has been written about Al Hubbard," Janiger once said, "and probably nothing ever should."

I challenge list members to follow the breadcrumbs to the rest of the story ....

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/03/13/health/13DRUG.html

March 13, 2001 Scientists Test Hallucinogens for Mental Ills By SANDRA BLAKESLEE

Hallucinogenic drugs like LSD and peyote - derided as toys of the hippie generation - are increasingly drawing the interest of neurologists and psychiatrists who want to test the idea that they may be valuable tools in treating a range of mental disorders.

Although there are anecdotal reports that psychedelic drugs can help some people with mental illness, the idea has never been substantiated by mainstream psychiatry and remains highly controversial - some would say outlandish.

And even the researchers involved in the new work are not suggesting that people start medicating themselves with hallucinogens.

But researchers like Dr. David E. Nichols, a professor of pharmacology and medicinal chemistry at Purdue, believe the drugs' potential should be investigated.

For example, Dr. Nichols, an expert on hallucinogenic drugs, said there were reports that symptoms of obsessive compulsive disorder, like washing one's hands dozens of times a day, subside under the influence of psilocybin, a hallucinogen derived from mushrooms.

Dying patients given LSD have reported less pain and less fear, he said. Ayahuasca (a Brazilian plant extract) and peyote (derived from cactus) have reportedly helped alcoholics stay sober.

"We now know a lot about how they work in the brain, but we have not begun to investigate their potential for treating brain disorders," he said.

Dr. Nichols is the founder of the Heffter Research Institute, begun in 1993 and named for Arthur Heffter, a 19th-century chemist who was the first person to identify a hallucinogenic molecule, mescaline, which he extracted from peyote. Backed by private donors like Laurence S. Rockefeller and Bob Wallace, a Microsoft millionaire, the institute is financing clinical trials with LSD, psilocybin and other hallucinogens to treat phobias, depression, obsessive compulsive disorders and substance abuse, said James Thornton, its executive director.

Dr. Nichols said trials were under way or planned in Switzerland, Russia and the United States. Most of the work is being done overseas, he said.

Dr. Janet Woodcock, director of the Center for Drug Evaluation and Research at the Food and Drug Administration, said that any proposal to study the medical use of a hallucinogen must meet the same rigorous medical and scientific standards used to evaluate any other unapproved drug.

Furthermore, because hallucinogens are controlled substances, the investigator will need a license from the Drug Enforcement Agency to use such a substance in a clinical trial.

The D.E.A. classifies hallucinogens as drugs with no known medical value - purely "drugs of abuse." But if a valid medical use is found for hallucinogens, Dr. Woodcock said, the F.D.A. has safeguards to prevent the drugs from being diverted and used for unapproved purposes.

Separating a drug's beneficial effects from the harm it can cause is possible, said Dr. Alan Leshner, director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse. "Morphine works for pain, but it's horrendous when used in an addictive way," he said. "The same may or may not be true for hallucinogens. It's a mistake to confuse the two issues."

Much has changed in the half-century since LSD was first used by psychiatrists and then found widespread recreational use in the 1960's and 70's. Modern psychiatry has embraced drugs that affect the same brain molecules that are tweaked by hallucinogens. Tools for studying the brain's neurochemistry and response to drugs like LSD are far more advanced than they were in the 1960's and 70's.

Moreover, many of the people who hold political and scientific power today came of age during the 1960's, and they, unlike their parents, are not as afraid of hallucinogens, Dr. Nichols said.

By definition, hallucinogens are drugs that produce bizarre sights, sounds and feelings that appear to have no basis in reality. All work by changing levels of a brain chemical called serotonin, a substance involved in the modulation of many brain states, including depression, euphoria and appetite.

While antidepressants like Prozac work by making the neurotransmitter serotonin linger in the gaps between brain cells, hallucinogens have a different mechanism of action. They are what are called serotonin agonists - molecules that are very similar to the body's natural serotonin and, when taken in large doses, push the serotonin system into overdrive, making many brain systems more sensitive, Dr. Nichols said. "It's like turning up the volume on your radio. Suddenly you can hear very weak stations."

Thus, for example, hallucinogens amplify signals in the visual system to produce distortions of form and size. Instead of seeing one object, a person sees many copies of that object, he said. Perceived motion is similarly distorted. People begin to "hear" colors and "see" sounds or have out-of-body experiences. Some are so disoriented they experience a terrifying "bad trip."

But very little is known about how hallucinogens can be used therapeutically, Dr. Nichols said. "The first thing we want to know is, Are they safe?"

Dr. John H. Halpern, a psychiatrist at McLeans Hospital in Boston, is looking at this question in a study financed by the Heffter Research Institute and the National Institute on Drug Abuse. The study will involve members the Native American Church who, as part of their religious rituals, take peyote in a group setting but use no other drugs, not even alcohol.

Using a battery of tests for mental and social health, three groups of Native Americans - 70 church members, 70 alcoholics and 70 people from local communities in the Southwest - are being followed and compared for two to three years. The goal is to see whether peyote users are healthier or less healthy than the others.

Similar studies in Brazil showed that violent alcoholics who took hallucinogens in a ritualistic context often stopped drinking and had higher blood levels of serotonin, said Dr. Dennis McKenna, Heffter's director of ethnopharmacology.

Those changes may reflect an increase in their brain levels of serotonin, added Dr. McKenna, who is also a lecturer at the University of Minnesota Center for Spirituality and Healing, which seeks to integrate cultural and spiritual aspects of care with the biomedical aspects.

Dr. Francisco Moreno, a psychiatrist at the University of Arizona, and his colleagues there have permission from their hospital review board and expect final approval from the F.D.A. soon to carry out a study on obsessive compulsive disorder and psilocybin.

"We want to know if psilocybin can reduce symptoms, and if so, how much do you need to take?" Dr. Moreno said. Subjects will be closely supervised while under the influence of the drug and kept in the hospital overnight as a precaution.

At the University of Zurich in Switzerland, Dr. Franz Vollenweider has permission from his government to explore hallucinogens in treating depression and schizophrenia. "We are interested in the nature of the human experience, of the subjective me-ness or self that guides our behavior," Dr. Vollenweider said.

He wonders whether a medically facilitated experience in which the self temporarily "dissolves" might reduce the symptoms of a clinical depression.

With money from the Heffter Institute, Dr. Vollenweider and his colleagues are conducting a three-year study of 64 depressed patients treated with psilocybin.

In related research, Dr. Vollenweider plans to continue brain imaging studies of healthy volunteers who have taken psilocybin and LSD.

"We can tease out specific brain regions responsible for hallucinations and ego boundaries," he said in a telephone interview.

At Harvard, Dr. Harrison Pope, a professor of psychiatry, is planning to carry out a study to see whether LSD can alleviate fear and anxiety in dying patients. Studies in the 1960's suggested that the drug reduced pain and improved mood, he said, but they were not done under rigorous standards.

Eighty patients would be given an "active placebo," a drug that has physiological effects but is not hallucinogenic, or LSD under close supervision of a psychiatrist or trained mental health worker, Dr. Pope said.

And in St. Petersburg, Russia, Dr. Evgeny Krupitsky, chief of the research laboratory at the Leningrad Regional Center of Addictions, is administering ketamine, an anesthetic with strong hallucinogenic properties, to alcoholics and heroin addicts, as they are treated with talk therapy.

One day, advocates of this research say, their results will be valuable.

"If hallucinogens ever find their way into mainstream medicine - and I am convinced they will - they will never be handed out like Prozac," said Dr. George Greer, Heffter's medical director and a psychiatrist in private practice in Santa Fe, N.M. "People will need guidance. These are not drugs you administer every day."

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Date: Thu, 15-Mar-2001 20:52:19 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: RE: Mind control ia post-traumatic-stress situations

Wes Thomas wrote:

> > GUADALUPE, El Salvador, March 3 - An American evangelical relief group > that > is using private donations and United States government money to help > victims of two earthquakes has blurred the line between church and state > as > its volunteers preach, pray and seek converts among people desperate for > help. > > > "They said a lot, but the principal thing was God and that earthly > things do > not matter," said Óscar Romero, a villager putting finishing touches on > his > house.... > > That message is central to its relief work, according to the group's Web > page, which quotes its president and chairman, Franklin Graham, son of > the > evangelist Billy Graham. The Web page notes that in one village where > the > group provided supplies, 150 Salvadorans converted after watching a > movie > about Jesus.... >

Wes, the Church has been using this type of message to deal with tragedy stricken areas for hundreds and hundreds of years now. It minimizes legitament human suffering and then attempts to replace the suffering with truisms.

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Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 13:14:36 -0800 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> Subject: RE: [MC] Mind control ia post-traumatic-stress situations

> Wes, the Church has been using this type of message to deal with > tragedy stricken areas for hundreds and hundreds of years now. > It minimizes legitament human suffering and then attempts to replace the > suffering with truisms.

... and acts as a powerful instrument of control over rebelious elements while opening new markets for U.S. goods and cultural domination. The CIA front in El Salvador is the Evangelical Church of El Salvador. See http://www.pir.org/gw/cam.txt

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Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:16:11 -0800 From: Pat Mougey <1927@glasscity.net> CC: 1927@glasscity.net Subject: Nick Begich, HAARP, /Eleanor White & Cheryl Welsh.

One thing that seems to be lost on targets and everyone else reading this list is that the pain and harassment to TI's had been present for years prior to the book on "HAARP".

The author, Nick Begich, obviously knew nothing about this, or he would not have appeared so surprised when he questioned if it was possible that the government was working on something that could read another person's mind...and not bother to classify it....

See this URL for excerpt on HAARP: http://www.glasscity.net/users/1927/haarp2.htm

For those of you who say 'such and such is incorrect' I ask that you contact Mr. Begich and explain why you believe he is wrong. I have no scientific background, and you do. It would be of benefit for the future, and would stop others from perhaps doubting the rest of what is in his books. He has the ability to contact many more people than you or I can, & my gut feeling says he'd be willing to learn about where his research took him down the wrong track. You do this with each other on the list. Let's work together in all areas.

In "Earth Rising", his second book, more papers and patents are put together that taken singly (by themselves) would not raise the interest of many people, but collectively give a huge impact. To me it says more of America's citizens should know about these devices, and be aware of what can happen down the road.

I for one am thankful to know about the devices and plans that incorporate the future for you and me. It gives me a base from which to fight back and say 'did you know?'..depending on the person I'm writing to at the moment.

He not only puts forth information on Mind Control in Chapter 7, but in Chapter 4 is asking questions such as 'how far can a democratic government go when evading the truth?' He then goes on to talk about lies and experimentation. In the same chapter he has cited/quoted the funding of MKUltra on pages 63 - 65 & 67... Some of this information I haven't seen on any web site.

Special Access Programs explanation on page 73... explains that these SAP's use measures that keep them from being included in NORMAL "classified' programs that largely shield them from independent oversight.

It's possible these same methods could be in use today by other agencies, incluidng the DOD as well as DOJ.

Let's not forget that special agreement between these two agencies that took effect l/l/95. Targets knew then they had been recipients of harassment from these kind of devices prior to that date. I cannot bring up the Mind Net Archive where this document is located on Mind Control Forum. Maybe someone else can...or perhaps it's on another site. http://www.ritualabuse.net/MCF/Res1.htm#Vericomm

I hope you don't discount everything in Begich's books because some disagree on a technical point about the HAARP project. Remember...most of the older targets know the pain and harassment had long been present before the book on "HAARP" was written and published. We, therefore had no problem believing "HAARP" was not the reason.

Cheryl Welsh and Eleanor White appeared on Jeff Rense's "Sightings", talk radio program on March 8th. It can be heard on the website.. http://www.sightings.com or: http://www.rense.com )

Pat Mougey

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Date: Fri, 16-Mar-2001 02:11:23 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: Net Currents

First good evidence of large net currents in my home besides a large number of appliances (especially motorized ones) burning out in a short time. Touch an element on my stove and the kitchen sink at the same time and you get a pulsed AC current flowing through you. The voltage measured between 6VAC and 32VAC. If I scope this current I won't be suprised if I find the same embedded RF that I picked up and recorded using the copper plate pickup. The stove is off, grounded and the ground strap at the fuse box has been re-enforced by myself to a copper water pipe less than 10 feet away from where the pipe enters the ground. I cannot find any source for this net current in my home as I believe it is being introduced into the neutral wire of my homes wiring system at a point outside the home. This would mean the the neutral wire of the entire homes wiring system is radiating a fairly large electro-magnetic field at all times, whether an appliance is being used or not. This field is what I pick up with the copper plate pickup method I have talked about in the past.

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Date: Fri, 16-Mar-2001 03:13:56 GMT From: James R. Rose <eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com> Subject: Conditioned Sensation-Psychophysical

Ecclesiastes :: The Segregated Fields :::Bugelski, An Introduction to Psychology(1973) :: Leuba(1940) : The concept of the image as a conditioned sensation has been illustrated by Leuba (1940) in a series of experiments using hypnosis as a technique for isolating the presumed basic processes. A subject is hypnotized [ see Hypnotism by William James (1952)] and told that "he can only hear a buzzer and the hypnotist's voice," "that he can see nothing, feel nothing except on the back of one hand." The experimenter then sounds the buzzer and at the same time pricks the back of the subject's hand with a needle or a pencil point. The subject is then brought back to a normal condition and while he is otherwise occupied, the buzzer is sounded. Immediately the subject starts to rub the back of his hand which had been pricked earlier. When asked why he does this, he replies that he felt an itch.

[ basic format for controlling and manipulating based on hypnopaedia-hypnosis, can arrange instances by instruction both continuously and by post hypnotic containment field ]

If this experimental analogue is taken as a suggestion about how imagery is iniciated, we might presume that the occurrence of appropriate stimuli in the external world,

[ Gestalt deceptive artwork-stereo images within commercial products, televison (dating back into the 1950's ), and in my case around the city of Chandler on homes and buildings, have also located these inlayed deceptions in public offices ]

or internal reactions which might generate stimuli, might also give rise to neural activity which previously accompanied such stimuli and the subject will have an image. Such imaginal activity, i.e., the neural processes involved, can by a similar process be associated with other imaginal neural surrogates so that a whole chain of imagery can be initiated by some one stimulus. One image can lead to another, just as other sequential activities as in walking, etc., can occur.

According to Berkeley, it was the activity of the mind that generated physical objects as appearances in an 'apparent' physical world. Sounds , sights, odors, tastes, etc., were mental experiences which depended upon the mind alone and out of which we constructed alleged items in an alleged external world. It is hypothetically correct, that if we could iniciate the same neural activity in the optic nerve, that follows stimulation from some source, say the "reflected light" from a "particular person or painting," we would then ""see"" that painting or person without the actual presence of the external stimuli.

[ This applies to all of the senses as depicted above. "Reconstruction" thereof, as a paired associate procedure, (Leuba,1940), or a vector, (Kohler,1944), for those smelling, hearing, seeing, feeling, as previous experience of a sensation. Repetative tunes is what refer when use the incestant repetition of a song. ( and these are coinciding with the verbal expressions series arrangements-sequences-conditionings ) A one liner was what termed the "echolia" instruction. As have stated many times, the field is as vast as the imagination for the manipulation of an individual, a family, or a group of persons in a given area. ]

To a degree we are always doing this with all of our senses, more effectively with some than others. The behavior involved when people report seeing or hearing, or otherwise experiencing objects in their absence, is called "imagery." At one time psychologists made a great deal of fuss about imagery. It was considered by Wundt one of the three basic psychic processes, an element of mental activity. Galton (1883) studied individual differences in imagery in a celebrated introduction of the questionnaire technique in psychology. He asked several hundred friends to imagine their breakfast table and describe carefully all their reactions as they called it up in their fancy. Other psychologists wondered if thinking went on through the process of imagery and in some cases decided that thinking could go on in the absense of any image content. They became known as "imageless thought" school. When Watson launched his program of behavioristic psychology he dismissed images from psychology as mystical hangovers from an unscientific day.

[ Appropriate for a controling faction of knowledgible person's intending to utilize the facts as a foundation for manipulating the masses with the Gestalt type of artwork coinciding to William James' Laws of Contrast, 1947 and 1952, respectfully. See entries on television, computer, paintings, lithographs, environmental and behavioral engineering. B. F. Skinner, Walden's Pond (1938) ]

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Date: Fri, 16-Mar-2001 03:21:45 GMT From: James R. Rose <eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com> Subject: Paired Associates-Nonsense Sylla

Ecclesiastes :: The Segregated Fields ::: Bugelski, An Introduction to Psychology(1973) : Paired Assoiciates-Nonsense Syllables ::cRoessler and Brogden (1943) :: Many kinds of responses are involved in thinking besides those of language. These may include such response patterns as movements of the eyes from side to side or upside down when we "think" of positions of objects. If you watch someone's eyes closely and ask him to think about some geographical location which the person has never visited and only knows through a map, he is likely to show an eye movement corresponding to a search of a map, e.g., children in the eastern part of the United States will move their eyes leftward when asked to think about California. Thinking of an airplane may be accompanied by actual eye movements or tendencies to move the eyes up. Thinking about ice-cold water may be accompanied by a tightening of the skin, hair raising and "gooseflesh" if the thinking is rather seriously done. [ Hypnopaedia leading to hypnosis control, television to produce sensation and familiarity with unknown stimuluses as a means to further progress the manipulations, Gestalt deceptive stereo images in backgrounds of sceneries of artworks ]

On the other hand, a person who has no familiarity with ice cold or ice of any kind "can not think about it except on a verbal level." In laboratory experiments psychologists "have been able to condition the constriction of blood vessels ( a characteristic reaction of plunging the arm into cold water ) to various external cues and to the self-stimulation produced by thinking of a particular 'nonsense syllable' ( Roessler and Brogden, 1943)." In such experiments the subject is instructed to say a particular syllable out loud and some means of constricting the blood vessels is applied --it could be electric shock or cold water. After pairing these events, the "spoken sound" is enough to illicit the vasoconstriction. Later on the subject is merely "told to say the syllable the syllable to himself ," to " think " it and the vasoconstriction occurs just as before. [ See Hypnopaedia by Aldous Huxley(1958); and Hypnotism by William James(1952); in the archives ]

""All Is Vanity""

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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 08:39:23 +0000 From: "Wendy Best" <wendy.best@dialog.com> Subject: scrambling?

I'm not knocking anyone's efforts in trying to find the source of signals and what the signals sound like, but is anyone working on how to scramble the signals?

-- This message (plus any attachments) is confidential and may be subject to lawyer-client privilege. Use without permission is strictly prohibited.

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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:54:44 -0800 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> Subject: RE: [MC] Nick Begich, HAARP, /Eleanor White & Cheryl Welsh.

1927@glasscity.net> said:

> See this URL for excerpt on HAARP: > http://www.glasscity.net/users/1927/haarp2.htm

> For those of you who say 'such and such is incorrect' I ask that > you contact Mr. Begich and explain why you believe he is wrong.

That would require Begich to first learn basic physics and electronics, as is evident from the above URL, along with basic journalism, which requires documented statements by experts instead of his opinions. He fails to understand elementary concepts of antenna radiation and RF (the effects described in the Air Force Radio Frequency Dosimetry Handbook are not relevant to HAARP, which radiates at HF frequencies; nonlethal weapons require direct microwave transmission, which HAARP antennas are not capable of). His statements about Russian computer viruses for mind control are likewise nonsense, as I've pointed out.

> for the future, and would stop others from perhaps doubting the > rest of what is in his books.

Others SHOULD doubt what is in his books, which is are not grounded in science. For example, his understanding of "Tesla technology" is also distorted:

"The assumed notion that the project known as HAARP (High-Frequency Active Auroral Research Project) is descended from Tesla's work, is something of an absurdity with reference to Tesla's previous affirmation. Since the HAARP Project's exclusive purpose relies on the existence and function of the ionosphere, and has nothing to do with the grounded circuits of Tesla - it is clearly NOT Tesla technology. This really should have been quite obvious to any researcher or author if they had simply read any of Tesla's work concerning his wireless - even without the bold statements of this 1919 article, but, alas, due the popularity of Tesla, and the recently published books and videos about HAARP, this bogus association between Tesla and HAARP has become "matter of fact" to the misled and uninformed." (http://www.borderlands.com/newstuff/research/teslahaa.htm )

> incorporate the future for you and me. It gives me a base

No, it provides no credible base. You should seek writings by persons grounded in science instead of a political educational background.

> has cited/quoted the funding of MKUltra on pages 63 - 65 & 67... > Some of this information I haven't seen on any web site.

We should check that out to see if it's valid.

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Date: Fri, 16-Mar-2001 10:21:16 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: RE: scrambling?

Wendy Best wrote: > I'm not knocking anyone's efforts in trying to find the source of > signals and > what the signals sound like, but is anyone working on how to scramble > the signals? > > --

Electro-Magnetic fields should function quite well to distort and or de-focus directed Electro-Magnetic fields including microwave. A low frequency electro-magnetic field will distort and de-focus just about any higher frequencies. eg: Just try keeping a strong 60Hz hum out of higher frequency circuitry especially if the circuitry is incorporating any amplification and the 60Hz waveform is localized and powerful. It will distort TV's and Computer monitors AM "and even FM if it is strong enough" it will be induced into telephones and wiring as well as de-magnetize just about anything in close proximity. Good sized field coils (200 -300 turns)being driven at lower frequencies, let's say 30 -60Hz at let's say 100 - 200 watts of power output or more.

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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:20:54 -0000 From: "Maureen Norman" <m.a.norman@ntlworld.com> Subject: Re: [MC] Net Currents

John: Is there anything you can suggest to get the electricity out of the air, that's not expensive to buy, and would the ioniser on my electric air filter help?

This past week's been pretty bad and I'm filled with electric static, and feel so tired all the time along with suffering the deeper adverse physical effects of this.

I'm currently wearing a a home made earthing device I made, which is a copper scrub pad with its centre taken out which I wear around my wrist. Attached to this is a electric flex with the wires attached to the copper pad at the top and with the wires sticking out of the end attached to a metal paper clip at the other end. That is heavy enough to remain on the floor.

We live in worse conditions than animals, and it's disgusting.

I'd like to see some of the people in the powers that be who ignore our situation live like this for an enforced year.. See how these jumped up, smooth talking 'jack boots' abominations like it.

What we suffer is evil.

Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> To: <mc@topica.com> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 2:11 AM Subject: [MC] Net Currents

> First good evidence of large net currents in my home besides a large > number of appliances (especially motorized ones) burning out in a short > time. > Touch an element on my stove and the kitchen sink at the same time and > you get a pulsed AC current flowing through you. The voltage measured > between 6VAC and 32VAC. If I scope this current I won't be suprised if I > find the same embedded RF that I picked up and recorded using the copper > plate pickup. > The stove is off, grounded and the ground strap at the fuse box has > been re-enforced by myself to a copper water pipe less than 10 feet away > from where the pipe enters the ground. I cannot find any source for this > net current in my home as I believe it is being introduced into the > neutral wire of my homes wiring system at a point outside the home. This > would mean the the neutral wire of the entire homes wiring system is > radiating a fairly large electro-magnetic field > at all times, whether an appliance is being used or not. This field is > what I pick up with the copper plate pickup method I have talked about > in the past. > > JV

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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 02:23:46 -0800 From: Steve Wingate <stevew77@pacbell.net> Subject: Magnetometer Chain

This is a comparison of data from magnetometers located at several different locations for the last 24 hours, and past data can be accessed continuously. Locations include Gacona, Alaska, the infamous home of HAARP. (I was just dreaming about this a few nights ago. :)

http://137.229.36.30/cgi-bin/magnetometer/magchain.cgi

Steve

ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com

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Date: Fri, 16-Mar-2001 10:36:42 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: RE: Nick Begich, HAARP, /Eleanor White & Cheryl Welsh.

Wes Thomas wrote: > 1927@glasscity.net> said: > > > See this URL for excerpt on HAARP: > > http://www.glasscity.net/users/1927/haarp2.htm > > > For those of you who say 'such and such is incorrect' I ask that > > you contact Mr. Begich and explain why you believe he is wrong. > > That would require Begich to first learn basic physics and > electronics, as is evident from the above URL, along with basic > journalism, which requires documented statements by experts instead of > his opinions. He fails to understand elementary concepts of antenna > radiation and RF (the effects described in the Air Force Radio Frequency

I don't want to discourage anyone from using their connections to further the plight of electronic harassment victims. Even though my background is more of a technical nature, I do not discount the power of politics. I would also like to add that my first roasting with this equipment began in the mid 70's. They were able to do the lucid dream and V2S stuff back then. The only thing that has changed is that they have added a few things since then.

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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:52:48 -0000 From: "Maureen Norman" <m.a.norman@ntlworld.com> Subject: Re: [MC] scrambling?

Please, please let me know if you find an easy way to stop or scramble these.

Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: Wendy Best <wendy.best@dialog.com> To: <mc@topica.com> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 8:43 AM Subject: [MC] scrambling? > > I'm not knocking anyone's efforts in trying to find the source of > signals and > what the signals sound like, but is anyone working on how to scramble > the signals? > > -- > This message (plus any attachments) is confidential and may be subject > to lawyer-client privilege. > Use without permission is strictly prohibited. > >

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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 07:03:08 EST From: Zilson@aol.com Subject: Re: [MC] scrambling?

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In a message dated 3/16/01 12:43:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, wendy.best@dialog.com writes:

> but is anyone working on how to scramble > the signals? >

Wendy I am certain your intentions are positive. But. It is not quite as simple as 'scrambling signals' First there are different techniques being used in many cases on 'one person.' An influence source could come in on a telephone line. Perhaps an old burglar alarm phone that has been modified in some manner. It could be something as simple as an extension has been run into your home. In my attic most of the phone lines of the neighborhood have wires. This was verified for me by a Verizon' tech who called the setup (in my attic- crawlspace between roof and ceiling) a mess. There could be a 900MHZ system with direct line of sight control in your home. And we haven't got to what is called the 'traditional' surveillance frequencies.(traaditional for a novice's(mine) perception)

The speakers could be anywhere, but in many cases traditional ones are not necessary. Your floor or a wall could be used easily as a crude speaker, especially if the only purpose is to terrorize a person.

If other things like your body are used as a speaker: You (the speaker) from my frame of reference don't consciously hear it (with your ears)

The psycho-acoustics of this circumstance escapes me. But perhaps another, with time and experience in this area could investigate they whys and how's of this phenom.

None of this addresses signals used to harm which was JV;s frame of reference.

Scrambling will not work in some of the cases outlined above

STOP HATE CRIME AGAINST THE MENTALLY ILL

STOP HATE CRIME AGAINST THE DEPRESSED ELDERLY OFTEN CALLED EUTHANASIA

STOP AMERICA'S THIRTY YEAR RELIGIOUS WAR

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Date: Fri, 16-Mar-2001 16:09:05 GMT From: <m.a.norman@ntlworld.com> Subject: Media item

The MP on the attached news item lives in Leicester, where the head of my county council is based. It's Also the home county of my own Labour MP who has done absolutely nothing to ease the tortuous conditions under which I live in my own home through 'neighbours'. Even though he's been and seen this for himself.

A couple of weeks after visiting me he stood up in the house of Commons and spoke about his decision to 'keep keep silent' about a matter. His 'speech' was published in the local media news. .

In fact it was shortly after his visit that the high pitched frequency sounds began.

Please read my account of how I began to be tortured in my own home after an arms dealer took over the business where I worked in 1990. The events leading up to my working there stink to high heaven too. Which this government are fully aware of as it was all documented and sent to the European Court of Human Rights.

This past week the frequency waves have been particularly bad and there has been no let up at all.

LETTERS ADD TO PRESSURE ON VAZ The reputation of the foreign office minister, Keith Vaz, is expected to suffer a new blow today with the detailed publication of 20 letters between him, his solicitors and Elizabeth Filkin, the parliamentary standards watchdog, showing how the embattled minister prevaricated and refused to answer questions about his affairs. http://www.guardian.co.uk/Distribution/Redirect_Artifact/0,4678,0-457536,00.html

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Date: Fri, 16-Mar-2001 16:19:37 GMT From: <m.a.norman@ntlworld.com> Subject: RE: Media item

It's amazing too, that my ordeal with high pitched frequency sounds began around 8 months ago, just afterthe Labour MP came to my home.

The conditions I've lived under since that time have been terrible with the RF and EM. In fact if you look back on my postings you will see when this began. About 8 months ago.

Maureen

m.a.norman@ntlworld.com wrote: > The MP on the attached news item lives in Leicester, > where the head of my county council is based. It's > Also the home county of my own Labour MP who has > done absolutely nothing to ease the tortuous conditions > under which I live in my own home through 'neighbours'. > Even though he's been and seen this for himself. > > A couple of weeks after visiting me he stood up in > the house of Commons and spoke about his decision > to 'keep keep silent' about a matter. His 'speech' > was published in the local media news. . > > In fact it was shortly after his visit that the high pitched > frequency sounds began. > > Please read my account of how I began to be tortured in > my own home after an arms dealer took over the business > where I worked in 1990. The events leading up to my > working there stink to high heaven too. Which this > government are fully aware of as it was all documented and > sent to the European Court of Human Rights. > > This past week the frequency waves have been particularly > bad and there has been no let up at all. > > LETTERS ADD TO PRESSURE ON VAZ > The reputation of the foreign office minister, Keith Vaz, > is expected to suffer a new blow today with the detailed > publication of 20 letters between him, his solicitors and > Elizabeth Filkin, the parliamentary standards watchdog, > showing how the embattled minister prevaricated and > refused to answer questions about his affairs. > http://www.guardian.co.uk/Distribution/Redirect_Artifact/0,4678,0-457536,00.html >

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Date: Fri, 16-Mar-2001 20:14:26 GMT From: Martin F. Abernathy <abemarf@aol.com> Subject: 1988 California Ritual Abuse Case

These are excerpts taken from the transcripts and Trial Brief of Daryl Ball, Sr. Case #14750-C, (Santa Rosa) followed by a news article describing the plea-bargain of both Charlotte Thrailkill and Daryl Ball - the only two people who were criminally charged with these sex crimes which often took place in a ritual context. The children named other people as being present who hurt them in the context of the "Devil Worship Club."

The Criminal Investigative Division interviewed some of these same children in their "titling" and dismissal action against Aquino. I viewed some of these tapes personally, and watched some children ID Aquino out of the CID visual and voice line-up.

The children spoke of adults chanting, while they or others were hurt, and gave graphic descriptions of killings (some of the victims, children) being filmed, and described various methods used to dispose of bodies.

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...(opening DA Statement) "Defendant Daryl Ball, Sr. and co-defendant Charlotte Thrailkill have been charged by way of felony information with 34 counts of child sexual abuse. A preliminary hearing began in August 1987, and lasted almost a month. Daryl Ball had an earlier case, 14668-c which was consolidated into the later charges. This case is described as a multivictim/multiperpetrator sexual abuse case. Such cases have often involved the active participation of women, multiple victims young in age, sexual penetration, and allegations of ritual abuse. These cases are distinguished from the incest model by the extreme terror shown by the victims. See Sexual Abuse in Day Care: A National Study, Final Report March 1988, David Finkelhor, Ph. D...."

"Child witnesses Kid #1, kid #2, Kid#3, Kid #4 , Kid #5, and Kid #6 were brought forward to testify as well as parents of some of the children and police agencies that were instrumental in the investigation. Their testimony has painted a graphic scenario of child sexual assault."

"...On August 18th, child #1 returned to testify. He affirmed his estimate that Thailkill copulated him 50 times (16:8-10). He testified to having nightmares about dragons and people killing other people (74:9-24)."

.."kid #1 witnessed Thrailkill copulating kid #2, kids #3, kids #4, kids #5. Kid #1 described being tied up and hung by the feet (123:1-28) and stated (named five other kids) were also tied up. He described Ball copulating kid #2 and Ball inserting a dildo into her (126: 20-28) Thailkill also used the spike dildo in Kid #2's rectum and copulated her daughter and kid #3. Kid #1 was also abused on a night when defendants had taken him trick or treating (132, 133, 134)."

..(Testimony of one of the childen)

Q. Did he say what would happen if you told your mom? A. Yeah Q. What did he say would happen if you told your mom about Tina's hickey? A. He'll kill her and cut her heart out. Q. He'd kill her and cut her heart out? A. And make me eat it. Q. And make you eat it? A. Yeah. Q Did he say anything about your little brother? A. Yeah

..."(kid) explained how he saw hypodermic needles at defendant's house and stated Thrailkill had injected him with the needle in the arm and some blood came out. Defendant Ball was present as well..".

"..(kid #1) described a game called 'neener, neener, neener, you can't catch my weiner' which was played with defendant Ball while he was nude. (156:23-28). The person who won the game was shot by a squirt gun filled with urine.(157:17-27). He described how Tony Carpino had threatened to 'chop his throat off'.(158:6-20) He also described being in a small swimming pool with other kids, all nude who were threatened to not tell their parents. (161:1-28, 162:1-9)"

"...he told of Thrailkill putting a 'rocket ship' in his bottom (170:10-24) He returned to testify Sept. 1, 1987, and described the defendants fighting over who would get to put the dildo in the children (RT (/1) 17: 80 28, 18: 1-10)"

"....(kid #2) also testified on Sept. 1, 1987. He testified that Ball touched his front private and it hurt (80:7-28) and Ball threatened to kill his mother (82:8-20). Ball also threatened him with a knife (84:21-28) and cut him with it."

"... He went on to relate incidents where the children were tied up with rope (117; 18-28, 118:1-28. 119: 1-18) He was made to touch his front private to child #3 privates by defendants (120:17-25) He described being tied up and hung by the feet (123:1-28) and stated that (kid#1), (kid#3), (kid#4), (kid#5), and (kid#6) were tied up.

He described Ball copulating (kid #4) (126:14-19) and Ball inserting a dildo into her (126;20-28), 127: 1-11). Thrailkill also used the spike dildo in (kid#1) rectum, and copulated her daughter and (kid#3)."

"..He also told of Thrailkill giving him a bath, holding him underwater for long periods of time and then copulating him (139;20-28), (140:1-19)" ". .. Ball threatened to cut (kid) mother's heart out if he told anyone and he would make him eat it. (145:8-10) He also told of Thrailkill holding his head under water in a swimminig pool, and then threatening to kill his mom if he told (147:12-28:148:1-15)

He further described seeing Ball use a variety of dildoes on the other children (192-196) He identified the rope he had been tied up with as being yellow rope (R.T. (9/3 104:12-28)"

"Thrailkill also forced him to undergo a a forcible bath where he said that the pounding of the water would give him such a headache, and that then she orally copulated him as he's kicking her to get her away".

"...(Kid#1) talked about "super duper day" when he, his brother, (named 6 kids) went to the office of the apartment manager. There, all the kids were undressed and touched by defendants, Steve Ruggles, Tory, Terry, Robin and Pappy. (Kid#1) saw the other children sodomized with dildoes, and were tied up (pgs. 96-105), 155-169)

"..(another kid). She saw Ball copulate, and use his finger and the red dildo on (kid#2) (198:4-25)...she described being injected with a needle behind her knee and at the inner aspect of her arm.. She was violated with the red dildo three times and the blue dildo twice

"...She also related testimony about "super, duper child molest day" which took place in the apartment manager's office. She identified many adults who were present and described a banner that read "Super Duper Child Molesting Day". She explained how a video was made of the sexual activity, and the kids watched it afterwards" (62:10-27;pgs 101-115)

"She also told of being in the swimming pool with other children, all nude, while the adults took photographs (25:1-25). She told about the tattoo's she had seen on Thrailkill (44" 13-28).

She told of a Halloween trip where kid #3 and #4 were left at a house, and picked up later (52:7-28; 53:1-28; 54:1-28;). There, she was present when they were told to strip, and the kids later shared their candy so it would appear that (another kid) had been trick or treating also."

"Kid #1 said he had been sodomized and copulated more than ten times each (137: 21-26), and described kid #3 crying when defendant Ball had attempted intercourse with her (138: 4-16). Kid #1 saw Mike Dugan touch Kid #2's butt (138:24-26). He also told of Thrailkill giving him a bath, holding him underwater for long periods of time and then copulating him (139:20-28). He saw Kid #3 get kicked and punched around, saw Ball copulate Kid #3 and Thrailkill use the spiked dildoe on kid #3 (43:1-28). Ball threatened to cut kid #1's mother's heart out if he told about Kid #2's hickey (145: 1-6), and he would make Kid #1 eat it."

Prosecutor: Did your real dad, Daryl, ever squeeze your dookie-doo real hard? (kid): yes Pros: and did it hurt? kid: yes Pros: what would he say when you would say it hurt? kid: He said..next time you lay in bed and not, lay still. You go to sleep."

"This is by no means a complete analysis of all the testimony, but should give the Court a sufficient overview of the matter to grasp the horror of the allegations. Unfortunately, no amount of these excerpts will ever show this court the terror, guilt and anxiety that these young victims suffered at the time of the acts or during their testimony."

.."Under 421(a) (6), the Defendant threatened witnesses or prevented them from testifying. These children were told not to tell their parents". "The crime involved multiple victims. Many of the times when these acts occured, the children described other children being there and other children being subjected to things at the same time."

".. When Counsel, Ms. Dubois, was describing the "Orgy Weekend" Dildo, if the court was noticing, right behind her, her client was laughing, they were laughing.."

"What happens in a case of this kind, what happens in multiple defendant, multiple victim cases, it that the parents take on this tremendous guilt because they say, "How could anything so horrible have happened to my children and I not have known?" And there is no way that this court can absolve them of this guilt. But the reason they're able to do that is because of the threats. If you tell them, "I'll kill your monny", "You'll have to eat your mommy's heart", "I will kill your baby brother"--little boys eight years old are proud of the fact they protect their baby brothers."

"I have been able to get little children through eight of those trials before, but not a trial like this. Not a trial where we're going to do two trials back to back and the children for those--such as Mr. Penn, who has been affected; such as my victim/witness person, who is now out on permanent disability and, likely, as a result of this case; my law clerk, who had to read the transcript and quit the DA's office, I am sure in part, because he had to read the transcript."

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Child sexual abuse case ends with prison terms Fear victims may never recover

The Press Democrat, Wednesday, Sept 21, 1988 by James E. Reid

A case that at one time involved more than 50 counts of child sexual abuse reached a conclusion of sorts Monday when a Santa Rosa couple was sentenced to prison for assaults on six children in a Santa Rosa neighborhood.

But while the legal wrangling in the case ended after 18 months, the impact on the victims may never end, one court official said. In an arrangement designed to spare the children the ordeal of testifying, Daryl T. Ball and Charlotte Thrailkill pleaded no contest to a total of nine counts involving lewd and lascivious conduct with the young victims.

The majority of the allegations against Ball and Thrailkill, involving at one time up to 52 counts of sexual molestation involving children ages 5 through 8, were to be dismissed as part of the plea bargaining. Ball pleaded no contest to two counts of forcible lewd and lascivious conduct and two counts of lewd and lascivious conduct upon children without the use of force.

Judge Raymond Giordano sentenced him to 24 years in prison. Thrailkill, who married Ball while both were in jail five days before pleading no contest to one count of forcible lewd and lascivious conduct with a child and four counts of the same conduct without force, was given a 14-year prison term.

While many convicts in California now are serving only about half of their terms bfore being released, Deputy District Attorney Donna Ryan said she hopes Ball and Thrailkill will do substantially more than half their time. Parole officials, she said, are taking a harder look at sex offenders before agreeing to their release from prison.

Judge Giordano was also required to cut more than two years off the couples's sentence. Ball received credit for 787 days on his prison sentence, which includes 525 days in custody since his arrest Apri1 last year and 262 days credit for good behavior in jail. Under a similar formula, the judge cut 807 days off Thrailkill's prison sentence.

Defense attorneys quoted the Bible and Victor Hugo in asking the judge for leninency on behalf of their clients, but the grandmother of one of the young girls molested by the two defendants cited a passage from Socrates in rebuttal.

"Children are your riches and upon their turning out well or ill will depend on the whole order of their father's house," she advised the court."That's what this is all about isn't it? Or it should be," she said later.

The events that led to Monday's sentencing involve a lengthy history of incest and sexual aberration, according to court records. Some therapists who counseled Thrailkill in jail suggest she may be innocent of the charges but chose not to contest the allegations because of her mental and physical limitations. They noted her fundamentally passive and emotional nature that apparently led to her dependence on Ball.

Officials who interviewed and examined the children said there was no question they had been the victims of repeated and severe sexual assault.

Deputy Probation Officer James Penn, who did pre-sentencing evaluations of both Ball and Thrailkill for the court, said the children have become involved in psychological treatment, but the damage may be irreparable.

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MARtin F. ABErnathy

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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 16:44:11 -0800 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> Subject: Effects of infrasound from trains on people

Forwarded from:

Paul Reichle [reichle.3@osu.edu] Taoshum-l list Fri 3/16/2001 11:44 AM

Dear Editor,

A standing wave. Images may come to mind- a family member stands to wave good-bye... gurgling white water in a Colorado creek hits an incline and creates a stationery kayakers dream... Jeff Spicone orders some pizza "on our time," and jeeps to Malibu to catch "some tasty waves." Unfortunately none of these personifies the disconcerting effect that frequents most homes in Columbus. Distinguished Professor of Comparative Literature at Brown University, Arnold L. Weinstein comments in his taped course The Soul and the City: Art, Literature, and Urban Life, "City dwellers are connected by waves of sound." In the l990's, excluding the most obvious airplane and highway noise, an inaudible antagonist has proliferated. In the early l990's both GE and EMD (Electro Motive Division of General Motors) began experimenting with and manufacturing locomotives with AC powered traction motors. From an economic viewpoint it made sense. There are no brushes or commutators to wear out in AC motors, and a computer controlled thrysistor maintains tractive effort to reduce wheel slip and motor burn out. Locomotive efficiency is increased and maintenance reduced propelling the rail industry back into the Fortune 500 from near bankruptcy in the l980's. In l982 there must have been a reason why politicians lobbied to dismantle and stop funding the federal Office of Noise Abatement under Ronald Reagan. Trains are noisy, but at least you know what it is when you hear it...or do you? The thrysistor is a software controlled electronic device that varies the frequency and voltage of AC. On diesel/electric trains, a turbo-charged diesel engine drives an alternator that produces alternating current. A rectifier converts it to DC where it is controlled by a computer, whence an inverter changes it back to AC to power the traction motors. When the traction motors are producing electricity by the inertia of the moving train, the electricity is fed back to a grid to dissipate the energy. This is called dynamic braking. All in all controlling electricity, not diesel power, moves the train. A few years ago the Evening News did a story on the elusive Taos Hum. Residents were hearing an annoying hum twenty-four hours a day. No one seemed to know the source. In Fayetteville and Columbus I was hearing a hum that fit the description of the Taos Hum. The hum is produced by low voltage AC drives controlled by the thrysistor. Near Taos, there is a Molybdenum mine in Questo a few miles away. There is a long conveyor belt that moves the metal from the mine to the refinery. There are also two mines near Littleton, Colorado. The Union Pacific railroad was the first to experiment with AC powered locos, mostly for logging work. There is also a thrysistor in the Bonneville Power Administrations power grid in the Pacific Northwest. What does this have to do with a standing wave? Seattle and Portland, the birthplace of Grunge is in the Pacific Northwest. Sudden Infant Death Syndrome, Attention Deficit Disorder, Irritable Bowel Syndrome, Panic Disorder, and Sleep Paralysis have all escalated in the last decade. Rockers got dark, rappers got violent, and teenagers began shooting at their classmates. The medical establishment has no physiological cause for any of these. What could be causing this downward trend in mental health in the last decade? The answer is infrasound. Vladimir Gavreau, a French Scientist, experimented with the effects of very low frequency sound, inaudible sound waves below 20 Hertz. Many speculated he was working on a non-lethal weapon for the military. Officials soon realized it was difficult to control the dispersion of omni-directional infrasound and abandoned it. It killed the operator as well as the enemy. Infrasound travels faster through water and solids and does not dissipate. Its physical and psychological effects are varied but the overt characteristic is an intense feeling of oppression. Fatigue, blurred vision, irritability, headache, nausea, difficulty concentrating, tingling skin, and aching limbs are all effects of infrasound. Low frequency electro-magnetic waves have similar effects. David S. Walonick did a study of the effects of 6-10 Hz ELF on brain waves. Brain electrical activity in the theta and alpha (the creative, insightful and meditative states) centers around 6-8 Hz. Most of our awake thinking is in the Beta range, above 12 Hz. Brain wave frequency ranges can be associated with mood or thought patterns. He determined the brain "locks onto" artificial electro-magnetic energy. It attempts to fight the invasion, then locks onto the electric energy. Likewise it can work at the cellular level causing disease. AC drives produce both. As a composer the AC traction motor locomotive as invaded nearly every aspect of my life. NASA has documented 17 Hz infrasound produces extreme blurring of vision. After two cornea transplants, even with 20/20 vision with glasses my eyes produce vision akin to the Comedy Channel's Dr. Katz show. Images pulsate almost 24 hours a day. With 48 inch cooling fans for the power inverters, I either have high volume white noise, infrasound, or audible hum in my home most of the day. Tinnitus accompanies all of this. Likewise I experience all the physical and psychological symptoms associated with EMF radiation and infrasound. I don't think my brain has operated in the theta stage since I moved to Columbus. I wake up with a backache from my mattress resonating. I am irritable, nervous, and can't concentrate. I have no privacy because my home is connected to all the other city dwellers by a huge tsunami-like standing wave. When I recorded recently in Nashville in a professional studio, the electro-magnetic waves in the air produced by AC powered locomotives destroyed five ADAT digital recorders. They disturb television reception and produce an audible buzz in my stereo system. On the phone voices have a ghostly echo. Electro-magnetic waves manifest themselves on preexisting wires carrying current. The engineers in Nashville didn't know what was causing it. They grounded equipment and put down insulating material but to no avail. What can you do when it is in the air? All you have to do is listen for the rushing white noise outside. For GE and GM, there is one issue that is substantial. If my right to privacy is being revoked by two corporations, that makes their practices unconstitutional. If they knowingly designed and manufactured a device that produces infrasound and the effects are documented, then they are negligent. Because infrasound is invisible and inaudible, it seems apparent they were irresponsible and abandoned sound thinking and a sense of well being for humanity in exchange for the dollar. Everyone has suffered and will continue suffering until something is done. It is no coincidence people are depressed, sick, and violent. With a country that now hums 24 hours a day with dangerous infrasound both through the ground and through the air, where are we to go. I guess NASA has the answer, although it seems noise is a big problem in space too.

Sincerely,

Paul A. Reichle lll

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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 19:45:50 EST From: SMARTNEWS@aol.com Subject: re: Freud may have been right: people can suppress memories

Dear List,

Please find info. below.

Sincerely, Neil Brick

Dark thoughts - Freud may have been right: people can suppress memories - Michael Anderson and Collin Green of the University of Oregon in Eugene asked 32 people to memorise a list of 50 or so simple pairs of words...The volunteers were then presented with the first word and asked either to recall the second or banish it from their minds for four seconds. Volunteers were asked to suppress the second word between zero and 16 times. The researchers found that volunteers were much less able to recall words that had been repressed many times - even when they were offered money to remember. http://www.newscientist.com/dailynews/news.jsp?id=ns9999519

also see Manipulating Memory Study: Humans Can Suppress Unwanted Thoughts By Willow Lawson http://abcnews.go.com/sections/scitech/DailyNews/memory_repression010314.html

1from ABCNEWS.com .

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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 18:30:26 -0600 From: "R. Nelson" <protogod@swbell.net> Subject: Silver Poisoning

http://protogod.exit.de/hmp.htm

or try: http://home.swbell.net/protogod/mp3.html

and once you are redirected to my server the mp3 page comes up, click in the address bar and delete /mp3tutor/mp3page.htm and replace it with /hmp/hmp.htm . My server always has the latest version.

Silver poisoning is one of the nastiest causes and one of the most effective mechanisms of implementing mind control, a fact that appears to have escaped both you and the masses... pay special attention to the section on water flouridation.

I can usually be found on dalnet or undernet in the #[FekLar] room

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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 21:23:50 -0800 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> Subject: RE: [MC] Nick Begich, HAARP, /Eleanor White & Cheryl Welsh.

> However, Begish *IS* a "good guy," Dude...and I believe you > should REFLECT SUCH in your "reality check" posts.

Good guy and good marketer of sensationalist books, yes, expert, no.

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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:26:21 -0800 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> Subject: More Art Bell misinfo

Is anyone listening to Art Bell's alleged breaking news on IT (Ginger)?

This is a joke, and reveals the low level of research and fact checking that goes into Art's show.

What the alleged investigative reporter is describing is the iBOT Transporter, which is old news. See the NBC show from http://www.msnbc.com/news/285231.asp from last June.

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Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 00:57:35 -0700 From: "Pat" <eagleph@ctaz.com> Subject: Fw: [MC] More Art Bell misinfo

I quit listening to Art Bell long ago. There are better things to do, methinks. Some of the people who've been on his show are corny flakes. Most, maybe. IMO.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> To: "Mc@Topica. Com" <mc@topica.com> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 12:24 AM Subject: [MC] More Art Bell misinfo

> Is anyone listening to Art Bell's alleged breaking news on IT (Ginger)? > > This is a joke, and reveals the low level of research and fact checking > that goes into Art's show. > > What the alleged investigative reporter is describing is the iBOT > Transporter, which > is old news. See the NBC show from http://www.msnbc.com/news/285231.asp from > last June. > > __________________________________ > Post to: mc@topica.com . Unsubscribe to: mc-unsubscribe@topica.com . List info: www.topica.com/lists/mc/ >

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Date: Sat, 17-Mar-2001 08:02:22 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: E.L.F. / MC

http://www.adacomp.net/~mcherney/nwo.html

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Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 01:11:41 -0700 From: "Pat" <eagleph@ctaz.com> Subject: [MC] Effects of infrasound from trains on people

Thanks, Wes. That answers part of my question some time back regarding infrasound, and confirms my gut feeling that it does cause many ills in current society.

Pat

----- Original Message ----- From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> To: "Mc@Topica. Com" <mc@topica.com> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 5:41 PM Subject: [MC] Effects of infrasound from trains on people

> Forwarded from: > > Paul Reichle [reichle.3@osu.edu] > Taoshum-l list > Fri 3/16/2001 11:44 AM Infrasound travels faster through water and solids and > does not dissipate. Its physical and psychological effects are varied but > the overt characteristic is an intense feeling of oppression. Fatigue, > blurred vision, irritability, headache, nausea, difficulty concentrating, > tingling skin, and aching limbs are all effects of infrasound. > Low frequency electro-magnetic waves have similar effects. David > S. Walonick did a study of the effects of 6-10 Hz ELF on brain waves. > Brain electrical activity in the theta and alpha (the creative, insightful > and meditative states) centers around 6-8 Hz. Most of our awake thinking > is in the Beta range, above 12 Hz. Brain wave frequency ranges can be > associated with mood or thought patterns. He determined the brain "locks > onto" artificial electro-magnetic energy. It attempts to fight the > invasion, then locks onto the electric energy. Likewise it can work at the > cellular level causing disease. > AC drives produce both. As a composer the AC traction motor > locomotive as invaded nearly every aspect of my life. NASA has documented > 17 Hz infrasound produces extreme blurring of vision. After two cornea > transplants, even with 20/20 vision with glasses my eyes produce vision > akin to the Comedy Channel's Dr. Katz show. Images pulsate almost 24 hours > a day. With 48 inch cooling fans for the power inverters, I either have > high volume white noise, infrasound, or audible hum in my home most of the > day. Tinnitus accompanies all of this. When I recorded recently in Nashville in a professional studio, the > electro-magnetic waves in the air produced by AC powered locomotives > destroyed five ADAT digital recorders. > It is no coincidence people are depressed, sick, and violent. With > a country that now hums 24 hours a day with dangerous infrasound both > through the ground and through the air, where are we to go. I guess NASA > has the answer, although it seems noise is a big problem in space too.

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Date: Sat, 17-Mar-2001 08:36:56 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: MC Generator Waveform

Having a close look at some excellent waveform samples I have been able to record to harddrive and analyze. The Electro-magnetic signal present is based on a plurality of frequencies based on 60 hz. The plurality extends in both directions from the 60 Hz base frequency.

Lowest frequency is .9375 hz

Highest frequncy extends well into the tens of kilohertz

On first examination the signal appears to be of a white noise nature On further examination it is much more structured than a noise signal and very repetative in plural frequencies (odd and/or even multiples of 60) The largest amplitude frequency is 60 hz itself. I have checked and re-checked and this is not 60hz hum. This was easily verified by scoping the 60Hz mains signal and the induced electro-magnetic signal on a dual trace scope. Should the larger 60Hz induced signal been the result of 60Hz mains hum then the 2 signals would have been in sync. Dual trace scoping easily displays that they are not in sync. This at least proves that the larger 60Hz component of the induced signal has nothing to do with 60Hz mains hum, instead it is a signal operating independantly of the 60Hz mains. Neither could it be the reasult of a motor driven, mains powered appliance. If it was, then the electro-magnetic field generated by such an appliance might be delayed to a certain degree, but still in sync with the 60Hz mains signal. The fact that this induced signal is not in sync with the 60Hz power mains is quite important. It can be used to produce electromagnetic resonances between itself and any electro-magnetic fields produced by "Net Currents" in the wiring. I can't say for sure, but there appears to be what sounds like low level embedded vocalizations within this signal.

A sample of this signal is avaiable on request.

JV ------------------------------ __________________________________ Post to: mc@topica.com . Unsubscribe to: mc-unsubscribe@topica.com . List info: www.topica.com/lists/mc/

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Diesel-electric traction locomotives By protogod@swbell.net

Silver Poisoning: detection By protogod@swbell.net

RE: Diesel-electric traction locomotives By cybershadow@juno.com

RE: Diesel-electric traction locomotives By frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca

re: Study of Mind's Ability to Repress Backs Freud By smartnews@aol.com

re: Reports of Child Abuse & Neglect Grew 33 Percent in the 1990s By smartnews@aol.com

Replacing a Metal Shield By zilson@aol.com

Metal sheeting By Woods_2000@webtv.net

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Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 05:57:12 -0600 From: "R. Nelson" <protogod@swbell.net> Subject: Diesel-electric traction locomotives

>> For GE and GM, there is one issue that is substantial. If my right to privacy is being revoked by two corporations, that makes their practices unconstitutional. If they knowingly designed and manufactured a device that produces infrasound and the effects are documented, then they are negligent. >> Because infrasound is invisible and inaudible, it seems apparent they were irresponsible and abandoned sound thinking and a sense of well being for humanity in exchange for the dollar. Everyone has suffered and will continue suffering until something is done. >> It is no coincidence people are depressed, sick, and violent. With a country that now hums 24 hours a day with dangerous infrasound both through the ground and through the air, where are we to go.

I find that interesting. The modern railroad locomotive also appears to be designed to be as fuel-inefficient as possible.

Diesel railroad engines have used some form of electric traction motor drive since their introduction in the 1950's. There never has been a commercially successful diesel railroad locomotive: all diesel-powered railroad engines are diesel-electric locomotives.

Using these locomotives might have made sense until the 1970s when fuel was inexpensive, but since the 1970s it has made a lot more sense to go back to steam locomotives, but using modern steam technologies, and using natural gas rather than coal or wood for the fuel.

Natural gas is expensive now, but from the 1970s to the present day it was the obvious choice, to use a domestic energy resource rather than to have to import foreign oil. (The current high price in natural gas is likely to be temporary.)

The diesel-electric locomotive is inherently inefficient, because the raw power is first generated by fuel and converted from heat to mechanical energy (the diesel engine), then the mechanical energy is converted by alternator or generator to electricity (the maximum efficiency of the conversion under perfect conditions is 66 percent), and then the electricity so produced is converted back into mechanical energy (again, maximum efficiency under perfect conditions is 66 percent).

Basically, only about half of the original BTU content of the fuel is actually converted to motive power; the rest is wasted. (Under perfect conditions; 40 to 45 percent effciency is actually nominal)

Compare this to steam. The steam engine is one of the highest known efficiencies for converting heat to mechanical energy. It does so without any intermediate steps, converting the heat from the fuel directly into mechanical energy.

The efficiency of the steam engine is more than twice that of the diesel-electric locomotive, or in other words, it costs only half as much in fuel.

The only advantage to using diesel-electric traction in locomotives is a marginally better control over the traction (less wheel slippage on acceleration), and a greater initial torque and acceleration. A greater initial torque and acceleration means that the train can accelerate slightly faster than one powered with steam engines, so that the railroad engineer could have his head pressed into the back of his seat if he wanted to on acceleration (although no engineers are ever seen to do this).

Note that the world used steam locomotives until the 1950s, and during the decade that the diesel-electric was introduced, it took eight diesel locomotives to haul the same load that only took two of the largest.most powerful steam locomotives to haul. The only reason the diesel was able to replace steam was due to the fact that the fuel was much less expensive than coal, and was less labor intensive (firemen in the Union demanded that the diesel be utilized... I wouldn't want to shovel coal into a hot oven myself). The steam engine also had somewhat greater maintenence costs than the diesel. Since 1970, all of these original advantages have been nullified, even with the current high price of natural gas. (And you don't shovel natural gas, you pipe it in from the CNG tanker car behind the locomotives.)

If what you say is true about the production of infrasound in these locmotives is true ( I know that what you say about the effects of infrasound is true: no need to convince me), then it ought to make you wonder about foreign involvement. Greatly contributing to the US national trade deficit by increasing the demand for foriegn oil imports when we have a more than adequete supply of domestic natural gas is not the most patriotic activity that GE, GM, or ALCO could be involved in.

Now that I think of it and remember, the hum produced by diesel-electric locomotives does seem to be a tad on the iritating side...

Check out palsy U.S. national energy policies of the last 30 years and the solution: Go to my redirector page at http://home.swbell.net/protogod/mp3.html My server isn't always up, so you may have to try again. I do not keep a copy of the page I am referring you to on the mirror site at protogod.exit.de, so don't waste your time looking there if my server is down: try back later.

Once that redirects you to my mp3 page, it will show up in the address bar as something like http:/64.132.244.36/mp3tutor/mp3page.htm Erase the /mp3tutor/mp3page.htm and replace it with /defeat.htm , so you have http:/64.132.244.36/defeat.htm in the adress bar, and hit return.

Until I find a better redirector solution, I'm sorry but you'll have to use that procedure, because I'm not putting that page up on a public web hosting server. If anyone knows of a redirector page IP address updater program for Win98 which is capable of updating more than one page on a site, or on multiple sites, please let me know.

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Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 05:59:48 -0600 From: "R. Nelson" <protogod@swbell.net> Subject: Silver Poisoning: detection

How to detect human scum and foreign scam running lamers, and other assorted toads who attempt to use silver adsorption frequency x-ray emissions on victims who have silver poisoning to attempt mind control or other irritation.

Use silver chloride, silver iodide, silver nitrate, or another silver compound. Silver iodide is inexpensive; it is used in cloud seeding. (Dumping large planeloads of silver iodide into clouds during droughts in an attempt to make it rain; the photoelectric affect builds up a negative electrostatic charge in the cloud, which attracts and condenses water vapor, which has been known to build the cloud size and water content significantly, sometimes resulting in rain.)

Take the silver compound, and find some way to form a cloud with it, and release the cloud downwind of the area you want to perform the detection in. With many silver compounds, it is a simple as mixing the compound with water and boiling it.

In fact, just going to a major city and releasing a cloud of a silver compound will cease all operations or nuking in the area, because the lamers know that it constitutes a detection method, and will make them greatly irritated, as well as paranoid.

The principle lies in the fact that either a cloud or a gas of a silver compound will fluoresce in the ultraviolet range, within the narrow frequency spectrum of silver's excitation energies and frequencies. This allows a two or three dimensional image of all silver adsorption frequency x-ray transmissions in the area to be created.

While the x-ray emissions from TV sets or other more powerful sources is highly directional, and difficult to detect, the cloud of gas will adsorb some of the x-radiation and re-emit a portion of at the lower ultraviolet frequencies, especially the x-ray / ultraviolet overlap band frequency. While the original x-ray transmission is usually highly directional, the cloud molecules' re-emission occurs in random directions.

The detector is a sensitive ultraviolet video camera, outfitted with Kodak color filters that create a narrow bandpass filter in the ultraviolet, within silver's excitation or ionization frequency spectrum. With one or two cameras, a 2-D picture can be imaged on a computer, and with three or more, a 3-D image.

Every television set in the entire area will show up as broadcasting a cone of radiation, and the radiation pattern will be visible upon the screen of the imaging computer. It will appear as if each tv set were broadcasting a cone of ultraviolet light resembling a searchlight, except that the beams are stationary. The beams will be seen as emanting from the walls of houses, with the source of the beam hidden invisibly inside. (The x-ray emissions pass right through walls, except in a few cases where there is lead-based paint.)

With this detection setup, you can see the power levels of the various transmission sources (which are almost always television sets). When you see an exceptionally high powered source, it is likely that someone is being nuked or manipulated with it. When such a source is seen to vary its output vector within a small range from time to time, obviously being aimed back and forth within a limited number of degrees, then it is obvious that the device is both tracking and nuking some unfortunate victim, controlled by some form of manual or automatic aiming system.

Toads have been known to use high power irradiation for attempted mind control, but this is rare; the most common use is for harrassment, for example to destroy an enemy by destroying their enemy's sleep schedule, or to make someone lose their job as a result of the destruction of the sleep schedule, so that the position will open and the lamers can stand a chance of filling it (a good chance, considering the degree of manipulation that can be acheived via silver poisoning and other forms of mind control... deciding the outcome of a job interview would not be difficult. This assessment is based on the existing, unclassified, known and proven methods.)

When such devices are used for mind control, much lower power levels would normally be used. However, this can still be detected and recognized for what it is, because the radiation will contain definite non standard modulation patterns which are not normally found in the output of a television set which is displaying normal broadcast or recorded programming. For example, alpha or theta or delta wave (brainwave) patterns. Remember, the x-ray emissions at silver adsorption frequencies will directly stimulate silver poisoned nerves and neurons, and directly cause nerve and nueron firings. Higher power levels are not usually a neccessity for this purpose; the modulation pattern is very effective at power levels not that much greater than an off the shelf, well-adjusted color television set. Even at the levels of a well-adjusted TV set, there will be some effects seen.

It has been known since at least 1992 to the toads that use these devices that this method of detection exists. Therefore, if one releases a silver compound cloud or gas into an area where they are operating, they will detect its presence with their own detection equipment almost immediately, and rapidly cease all operations, and if they are present at the physical location of the transmitting device they will attempt a rapid escape from the area, abandoning their equipment. There is a small window of opportunity where the detection will be effective, however. Those who are less sophisticated who attempt to use irradiation as a weapon will almost certainly not have this detection equipment, and can be located without fail every time this method is used.

Using this method from time to time, especially in large city areas where it is more likely that such activities are occurring, even if you don't have a detector array, will always at least cost the more sophisticated operators money, and it will generally waste vast amounts of their time and resources, and greatly increasing their paranoia (poetic justice, there). The more paranoid someone gets, the more likely they are to make a mistake and actually get caught. These maggots have never had a problem with making others suffer and gaining enjoyment and satisfaction from the suffering they cause, so a taste of their own medicine is just what they deserve.

A less sophisticated detection setup would use only a simple sensitive ultraviolet detector, rather than an expensive ultraviolet video camera. Basic minimum tringulation might be achieved by using multiple instances of this type of detector and having a computer perform the advanced triangulations (three detectors is not enough), but its true value lies in simply being a power level indicator, a type of silver adsorption frequency geiger counter.

An area that shows above average levels of x-radiation is likely to contain nuking or manipulation activities, and is an excellent candidate for releasing a detector cloud inside from time to time. This method can use very small amounts of silver compound, at levels which will not trigger a 'someone is searching for us' paranoia reaction, and still be used for basic triangulation, although the accuracy will not always be precise because of the general background of normal TV set emissions. However, it can really have its use in detecting likely areas that are candidates for releasing a dense distribution of silver compound cloud, without the risk of you being detected by the lamers.

It stands to reason that if you are conducting either a fake or a real detection effort, to set up the device that produces the cloud and set it for remote control, so that you are not located at it's origin when it releases the cloud. If you were, it would be easy to locate and identify you. If you are not, all the lamers will find is a large pan of boiling water that contains silver compounds, sitting on a Coleman camp stove you bought at a garage sale for five dollars. That constitutes remote control, since you light it and leave, and it takes ten minutes for the water to boil, by which time you are nowhere near it. Since it is difficult to know who you might be dealing with, leaving fingerprints is also inadvisable.

A fake detection effort will result in costing the deserving fools a large sum of money for equipment that they will have to abandon, rather than them risk identification by going back to pick it up after it may have been located. Most of the equipment used by these lamers is far more sophisticated and expensive than simply a television set that has had the high voltage turned up too high. It will also cause them nearly the same type of irritation and suffering that the use of their method causes to others, because for all they know, it is a group of pissed off people who own long range sniper rifles, an unidentified government agency, an uncontrolled group within the Defense Department, or even the KGB, Ninja or Mossad that might be searching for them.

I can usually be found on dalnet or undernet in the #[FekLar] room

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Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 09:30:08 -0500 (EST) From: Cyber Shadow <cybershadow@juno.com> Subject: RE: [MC] Diesel-electric traction locomotives

protogod@swbell.net wrote:

A greater initial torque and acceleration might be a factor in a tiny number of rail routes where there are very steep grades, where the trains may have to stop on the grade and then resume with a full load. These routes are rare, usually found in small logging and mining railroads, and many of these railroads use non standard equipment to begin with. For example, most of these railroads are narrow gauge (the rails are closer together than standard rails, and the axles shorter) ============================================== Greetings, No offense, but most of what you have posted here would be considdered by most modern railroad people as "ancient history." In case you might of missed it, Railroads like the Burlington Northern/Santa Fe and the Union Pacific, Which between these two comprise ownership of over 87% of ALL of the railroads in the US today, have phased out the day to day usage of the Old Type of Diesel that you mentioned in favor of the new AC Traction Diesel which has been documented at being in excess of 80% fuel efficient compared to the older DC Diesel locomotives by the National Federation of Railroads Test Track in Pueblo CO.

As for your comments above about there being only a small or limited number of "Steep Grades" is also not correct. In the state of Colorado alone, over 60% of all trackage right of ways are in excess of 3%, which is a considderable grade for a mile long coal train. In the state of Utah this number goes up to 81%. And this is only 2 of the Rocky Mountain States. From California, to the Plains there are far to many Steep Grades to mention here. These facts are available in the Railroad archives of the Burlington Northern/Santa Fe, Union Pacific, etc. On the Eastern Side of the Mississippi, there are quite a few Main Line miles that also exceed the 3% Grade.

As for your comment about the Narrow Guage Railroads. There are only a couple of these left in operation in the US today. Two of the most notable are the Cumbres-Toltec and the Silverton-Durango in Colo. Both of which were used for Passenger travel as well as mining operations. The old Denver & Rio Grande Western were the owners of these two old lines that still operate as tourist attractions today, and both use Steam Locomotives. According to the present day owners of these railroads, Diesel was never used on either of these lines. Jim

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Date: Sat, 17-Mar-2001 22:23:16 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: RE: Diesel-electric traction locomotives

Cyber Shadow wrote: > protogod@swbell.net wrote: > > A greater initial torque and acceleration might be a > factor in a tiny number > of rail routes where there are very steep grades, where > the trains may have > to stop on the grade and then resume with a full load. > These routes are > rare, usually found in small logging and mining railroads, > and many of these > railroads use non standard equipment to begin with. For > example, most of > these railroads are narrow gauge (the rails are closer > together than > standard rails, and the axles shorter) > ===============================================

When we finish discussing Locomotives, I wouldn't mind getting peoples thoughts on several subjects. I was wondering if anyone on the list had any practical calculations based on the Shwarchzenchild Radius formula? After that I would like to explore, if we could, using refected gravity waves from known gravitational phenomenon to make a rough calculation of the size of the Universe. Has enyone been able to find out if the exact position of an electron has been measured within an atom? I think the problem here may lie in the fact that an electron occupies just enough space to manifest itself as a Mass, but not quite enough Mass to manifest itself as a Mass within a given measureable period of Time. Sort of a borderline 2D/3D object. Does anyone feel that Rhymonian Cosmology represent a viable working model for the primary creation of Matter?

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Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 17:49:58 EST From: SMARTNEWS@aol.com Subject: re: Study of Mind's Ability to Repress Backs Freud

Dear LIst,

Below please find information about this article.

Sincerely, Neil Brick

Study of Mind's Ability to Repress Backs Freud, AP - NY Times - 3/15/01, "In the rat study, Tracey Shors of Rutgers University said rats were not as likely remember the connection between two events separated by time if given a drug that cuts the production of neurons in the hippocampus, an area of the brain used in the formation of some types of memory. Eighteen rats were given the drug. The brains of both rats and humans have a hippocampus, and the study is the first to show in mammals that new neurons are used in memory formation, though previous work has shown the connection in birds, the researcher Shors said."

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Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 17:55:08 EST From: SMARTNEWS@aol.com Subject: re: Reports of Child Abuse & Neglect Grew 33 Percent in the 1990s

Dear List,

Below please find infromation about this article.

Sincerely, Neil Brick

Reports of Child Abuse & Neglect Grew 33 Percent in the 1990s - Rate of Growth in Reports Slowed Substantially in Last Half of the Decade - WASHINGTON, D.C., March 13, 2001 - In the last decade of the millennium, the number of children reported as abused or neglected in the United States grew by 33 percent to reach a level of 3,244,000, according to a report released today by Prevent Child Abuse America http://www.preventchildabuse.org/media/03_13_01_3.html

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Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 22:15:41 EST From: Zilson@aol.com Subject: Replacing a Metal Shield

Today, My wife and I were rearranging our bedroom. For members of this list as you all know this can be an involved process. To cut to the main point of interest. We keep a large 4/6 piece of sheet metal under the carpet below the bed. This carpet is never walked on, as the bed cover most of it's area.

When we pulled the carpet back. The sheet metal that sat flat on the floor, had semi circular ridges clustered around the area that would have been my head as well from say the area that would be top of my thighs to say my solar plexus. The metal was distinctly raised in varying almost cup like patterns. Not quite complete circles that were pushed upward from the floor side of the metal. . .

Impact craters? Or perhaps an invisible being who lives in an upside down no gravity world and pass through walls and perhaps used the shield as for a cookie cutting board?

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Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 20:18:01 -0800 (PST) From: Woods_2000@webtv.net Subject: Metal sheeting

JZ, Do you live on the ground floor? In other words could anyone work on you from below? Were these ridges pushed up or down on the sheet of metal? What gauge of metal are we talking about? When you installed the metal did you realize any positive effect? Woody

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RE: Diesel-electric traction locomotives By protogod@swbell.net

RE: Diesel-electric traction locomotives By west@sonic.net

Follow up on Replacing metal sheeting. By zilson@aol.com

RE: Diesel-electric traction locomotives (URL Correction) By protogod@swbell.net

Take A Poly-Polar Approach By zilson@aol.com

RE: Take A Poly-Polar Approach By frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca

Re: Take A Poly-Polar Approach By zilson@aol.com

Lawsuit against the United States for the use of Torture and Mind Control By xfiles@uswest.net

Are you a target of multiple stalkers? By Perpdetector@hotmail.com

Defeating "Mind-Control" Technology By Perpdetector@hotmail.com

radiation bombardment By Perpdetector@hotmail.com

Michael Sweeney's Radio comments: MC By Perpdetector@hotmail.com

1992 October Surprise Info By thefbiisthecatcherintherye@hotmail.com

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Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 05:03:30 -0600 From: "R. Nelson" <protogod@swbell.net> Subject: RE: Diesel-electric traction locomotives

>>>the new AC Traction Diesel which has been documented at being in excess of 80% fuel efficient compared to the older DC Diesel locomotives by the National Federation of Railroads Test Track in Pueblo CO.

I'm not a total expert on such matters. I do know that I have been told by some ver prominent authorities that the maximum possible efficiency in any generator or motor is 66 percent. These authorities include the Minnesota Department of Energy, Steve Ruben, a head researcher at Solar energy Research Institute in Golden, CO, and a very well versed technician at Dresser-Rand Insdustries who was able to design me a small steam turbine from scratch in tless tha 15 minutes. Dresser-Rand has a 1-800 techincal information number. The guy at Dresser-Rand was was beyond my speed, obviously the type that could draw equations on a blackboard ( and understand what they meant) that would make Albert Einstien or Stephen Hawking reel back in fear.

'National Federation of Railroads Test Track in Pueblo CO' ... for a mind control newsgroup participant, you seem pretty quick to accept anything the government tells you; therefore, you likely have demonstrated that mind control does indeed exist.

If you want an example of the "unquestionable character and integrity" of certain government agencies, go to my geothermal energy page. Try: http://home.swbell.net/protogod/mp3.html and once you have been redirected to my web server and the mp3 page comes up, click in the address bar and delete /mp3tutor/mp3page.htm and replace it with /geo.htm .

http://64.123.145.227/mp3tutor/mp3page.htm then replace it with http://64.123.145.227/hmp/geo.htm Some government agencies have been known to speak with forked tongue. Let me guess, you'll be telling us next that silver dental fillings are prefectly safe, and that the Chariman of the ADA is actually Jesus.

I can usually be found on dalnet or undernet in the #[FekLar] room

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Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 04:46:44 -0800 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> Subject: RE: [MC] Diesel-electric traction locomotives

protogod@swbell.net said:

>... for a mind control newsgroup participant, >you seem pretty quick to accept anything the >government tells you; therefore, you likely have >demonstrated that mind control does indeed >exist.

>forked tongue. Let me guess, you'll be telling >us next that silver dental fillings are >prefectly safe, and that the Chariman of the ADA >is actually Jesus.

Since you're new to the list, you may not be aware that these are flames. As stated in the list rules (which you agreed to observe), these are not permitted on this list.

Thanks - Wes Thomas, list moderator

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Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 08:48:25 EST From: Zilson@aol.com Subject: Follow up on Replacing metal sheeting.

First: I sleep on the second floor of an attached home. We occupy the entire house.

Second this particular protection/evidence gathering artifact was put in place close to a year ago, and forgotten about (very important)

Third It is the gauge metal used for a furnace or stove firewall.

Fourth The floor underneath the metal shows nothing. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Side note My wife and I were sitting in the room one afternoon, and we heard a sound that quickly moved from one side of the floor to another. It was under the floor, and I felt it was spread out I thought 3. My wife who is a little more scientifically oriented than I am wouldn't say.

The movement stopped upon reaching the other side of the wall.

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Upon moving in to this place we found pieces of air hose all over the place. Also as many TI's have reported in other cases There is the sound of a high pressure(piston?) valve closing with 'great force' from time to time. All of are on the first floor and I believe I know where at least two of them may be located.

One is in the area of the living room where my female bull terrier was sleeping. and she awoke one morning with what a the vet initially diagnosed (based on x-rays) as a broken neck. She died about a week later.

Anyone who wants a JPG is welcome . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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ps: Don't talk to unseen perps. And never believe nothing 'a little birdie' tells you.

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Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 09:43:10 -0600 From: "R. Nelson" <protogod@swbell.net> Subject: RE: Diesel-electric traction locomotives (URL Correction)

The URL given was a typo:

original message read: http://64.123.145.227/mp3tutor/mp3page.htm then replace it with http://64.123.145.227/hmp/geo.htm

should have read: http://64.123.145.227/mp3tutor/mp3page.htm then replace it with http://64.123.145.227/geo.htm

-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>the new AC Traction Diesel which has been documented at being in excess of 80% fuel efficient compared to the older DC Diesel locomotives by the National Federation of Railroads Test Track in Pueblo CO.

http://64.123.145.227/mp3tutor/mp3page.htm then replace it with http://64.123.145.227/geo.htm

************** corrected URL **************

Some government agencies have been known to speak with forked tongue. Let me guess, you'll be telling us next that silver dental fillings are prefectly safe, and that the Chariman of the ADA is actually Jesus.

I can usually be found on dalnet or undernet in the #[FekLar] room

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Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 11:55:53 EST From: Zilson@aol.com Subject: Take A Poly-Polar Approach

Just another followup. There are many many ways of affecting the through the walls impact experience. Some high tech, some no tech, or a combination of each.

A savvy torture expert will train you to respond to subtle electronic stimuli so when you leave his area and you encounter an effect similar to his/her torture method you think 'attack'.

By the way from an operational perspective there is no such thing as latent schizophrenia and THAT sounds a lot like 'perp' talk.

JZ.

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Date: Sun, 18-Mar-2001 17:23:59 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: RE: Take A Poly-Polar Approach

zilson@aol.com wrote: > > Just another followup. There are many many > ways of affecting the through the walls impact > experience.

Like applying a high voltage to a muscle and making it jerk using a beefed up flyback (tesla) coil type arrangement being driven by a mechanical generator which also generates a lot of vibration at the same time.

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Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 13:07:43 EST From: Zilson@aol.com Subject: Re: [MC] Take A Poly-Polar Approach

In a message dated 3/18/01 12:24:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca writes:

<< a beefed up flyback (tesla) coil type arrangement being driven by a mechanical generator which also generates a lot of vibration >>

From a primitive perspective the vibrations alone after three or four days of no sleep will drive you batty.

In your version of this letter there is an attachment of a device I found using infrared. Notice it is suspended within a beam. What is the hollow in the middle? A female receptacle?

A very confusing (To The Object) yet smart method for the perp, also I picked up a book on hearing and psycho-galvanic skin response very interesting I will share any techniques improvised from it.

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Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 12:52:52 -0700 From: chuck <xfiles@uswest.net> Subject: Lawsuit against the United States for the use of Torture and Mind Control

U.S. SUPREME COURT DOCKET NO.

IN THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT

CHARLES AUGUST SCHLUND, III and RANDY D. LANG,

Petitioners

vs.

THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, et al,

Respondents.

ON APPEAL FROM THE JUDGMENT OF THE UNITED STATES

COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE NINTH CIRCUIT

C.A. NO. 00-15-126

(D.CT. NO. CIV-98-1875-PHX-RCB)

PETITION FOR WRIT OF CERTIORARI

Charles August Schlund, III 8520 N. 54th Drive Glendale, AZ 85302 (602) 670-2017 (M) Petitioner In Pro Per

Randy D. Lang 11024 N. 28th Dr., Ste. 200 Phoenix, Arizona 85029 (623) 878-7270 (O) Petitioner in Pro Per

I. QUESTIONS PRESENTED FOR REVIEW.

A. Was the joint failure and refusal of the Central District Court and Appellate Court to issue, per Petitioner's repeated written requests, findings of fact and conclusions of law a gross departure from the normal and customary course of procedure any of the Questions for Review stated below, justifying the Supreme Court's supervisory review? (See, Appendix Nos. 3,4,5, and 7-12). B. Did the Central District Court and the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals violate Petitioners' constitutional due process rights by continuously failing and refusing to make any findings of fact and conclusions of law, despite Petitioners' repeated written requests for the courts to do so? (See Appendix Nos. 3,4,5 and 7-12). C. Did the District Court's failure and refusal to make any findings of fact and conclusions of law, in disregard of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedures, Rules 43, 52(c), and 65 and Petitioners' repeated written request and Petitioners' request per Federal Rules of Evidence 201 (to take mandatory judicial notice of such requests) and such rules cause prejudicial error by eliminating Petitioners' factual and legal basis for review by the Supreme Court under Supreme Court Rule 14(i)(h)(i)(ii) and (vi)? (See Appendix Nos. 3,4,5 and 7-12). D. Whether the District Court's satisfaction of the Government's fabrication of facts and no affidavits or any other evidence but mere attorney ipse dixit opinion to support its two-page Motion for summary Judgement result in prejudicial error, violating Petitioners' constitutional rights. Likewise, the Ninth Circuit Appellate Court's notification causing same result? (See Appendix Nos. 6, 9, 10, and 12).

E. Whether the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals' refusal and failure to issue findings of fact and conclusions of law on any of Petitioners' appellate motions on appeal, per their i continuous written requests, caused prejudicial error and violated their constitutional due process rights, leaving them without an adequate record for review by the Supreme Court? (See, U.S. Sup. Ct. Rule 14 (h)(i)(vi) [...findings of fact and conclusions of law...]).

ii II. LIST OF ALL PARTIES

All parties and the Solicitor General of the United States have been served by First Class Mail (U.S. Sup. Ct. Rule 29) this 14th day of March, 2001 as follows:

Charles August Schlund, III 8520 N. 54th Drive Glendale, AZ 85302 (602) 670-2017 (M) Plaintiff/Appellant/Petitioner In Pro Per

Randy D. Lang 11024 N. 28th Dr., Ste. 200 Phoenix, Arizona 85029 (623) 878-7270 (O) Plaintiff/Appellant/Petitioner in Pro Per

Richard G. Patrick Assistant U.S. Attorney 4000 United States Courthouse 230 North First Avenue Phoenix, AZ 85025 (602) 514-7500 Attorney for Defendant/Appellees/Respondent U.S. Department of Justice, Drug Enforcement Administration

Solicitor General of the United States Room 5614, Dept. Of Justice 950 Pennsylvania Ave. N.W. Washington D.C. 20530-0001 Interested Non-named Party (U.S. Sup. Ct. Rule 29(4)(a))

by: Randy D. Lang

iii TABLE OF CONTENTS

Page

I. QUESTIONS PRESENTED FOR REVIEW i

II. LIST OF ALL PARTIES iii

III. INTEREST OF PETITIONERS v

IV. TABLE OF AUTHORITIES vi

V. PETITION FOR WRIT OF CERTIORARI 1

VI. OPINION BELOW 1

VII. STATEMENT OF JURISDICTION 1

VIII. UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION, STATUTORY PROVISIONS, 1 AND THE PROTECTION AGAINST TORTURE AND HUMAN RIGHTS ACT

IX. STATEMENT OF THE CASE AND THE FACTS 2

X. LEGAL ARGUMENTS

A. The Court Erred in Interpreting The Supreme Court's Decision 11 of Celotex Corp. V. Catrett And Failed to Make Findings of Fact And Conclusions of Law, Despite Petitioners Requested Such For Review on Appeal.

B. The District Court Greatly Departed From The Accepted And 14 Usual Course of Judicial Proceedings, Which The Appellate Court Ratified When it Accepted The Government's Fabrication of Fact to The Doran Case And Then Refused to Make Findings of Fact And Conclusions of Law, Requested by Petitioners, Requiring The Exercise of The United States Supreme Court Supervisory Power to Protect Petitioner's Constitutional Rights.

XI. CONCLUSION 16

XII. NOTICE OF CERTIFICATE OF COMPLIANCE 18

XIII. PROOF OF SERVICE 19

v III. INTEREST OF PETITIONERS

All the parties listed on the List of All Parties, incorporated here by reference, are interested parties in the matter.v IV. TABLE OF AUTHORITIES

CASE LAW PAGE

Statutes and Constitutional Provisions

Protection Against Torture Act 2 The Civil Rights Act, now known as the Electronic 2 Communications Act of 1986 (18 U.S.C. §§ 2510-2520) (1988) [Title I]) and The Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968 (18 U.S.C. §2510-2520) (1968) [Title III]) including, however not limited to the aforesaid.

Anderson v. Liberty Lobby, Inc., 15 477 U.S. 242 (1986)

Celotex Corp. v. Catrett 2, 11, 12, 13, 15 477 U.S. 317, 106 S.Ct. 2548 (1986)

Central Intelligence Agency v. John Cary Sims and Sidney M. Wolfe, 7 471 U.S. 159, 85 L.Ed. 2d 185 S.Ct. 1881 (1965)

Doran v. McGinness, 158 F.R.D. 383 (1994) 2, 14, 15 [ "Mental telepathy mind control"]

Matsushita Electric Industry Co. v. Zenith Radio Corp. 12 475 U.S. 574, 587 (1986)

Siderman De Blak v. Republic of Argentina, 2, 14 946 F.2d 1450 (9th Cir. 1991) [Torture]

Thomas v. Wichita Coca Cola Bottling Co., 12 968 F.2d 1022 (10th Circ.) cert. denied, 506 U.S. 1013 (1992)

U.S. v. Koyomejian, 970 F.2d 536 (9th Cir. en banc), cert. denied. 14 946 F.2d 1450 (1991) [This case was only interpreted facts pertaining to the criminal context. Electronic-force excessively intrudes to grossly violate rights to privacy, especially as to other parties coming in contact with subject target of surveillance activities]

vi TABLE OF AUTHORITIES (Con't)

Legislative and Executive Materials and Rules

Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, Rule 43 10, 16

Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, Rule 52 8, 9, 10, 16

Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, Rule 56 7, 8, 10, 11, 12, 16

Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, Rule 65 10, 16

Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, Rule 201(b)

Restatement 702 10

Supreme Court Rule 14(h)(i)(ii) and (vi) 10, 16

vii

IN THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT

CHARLES AUGUST SCHLUND, III and RANDY D. LANG,

Petitioners

vs.

THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, et al,

Respondents.

V. PETITION FOR WRIT OF CERTIORARI Appellant Charles August Schlund, III and Randy D. Lang ("Petitioners") in Pro Per, respectfully petitions for a Writ of Certiorari to review the Judgment of the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit in this case. VI. OPINION BELOW The opinion of the Court of Appeals (Appendix No. 1) was ordered not for publication. The opinions of the District Court (Appendix No. 2) are unreported. VII. STATEMENT OF JURISDICTION The Court of Appeal entered its decision on December 14, 2001 (Appendix No. 1). No Petition for Rehearing was filed. The jurisdiction of this court is invoked under 28 U.S.C. 1254(1). VIII. UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION, STATUTORY PROVISIONS AND THE PROTECTION AGAINST TORTURE AND HUMAN RIGHTS ACT. Because the text of the citations are too voluminous, Petitioner hereby complies with Rules of the Supreme Court of the United States ("Rule") Rule 14(f). The referenced U.S. Constitutional Provisions, Federal Statutes, Executive Issuances include: the First, Second, Fourth, Fifth, Seventh, Ninth, Fourteenth and Seventeenth Amendments to the United States Constitution; Federal Torts Claim Act, 28 U.S.C. §§2671 through 2680; 28 U.S.C. §1346(b); 18 U.S.C. §1964; 42 U.S.C. §§1983 and 1988; Protection of Human Rights Act; The Convention Against Torture and Cruel, Inhumane or Degrading Treatment or Punishment of June 26, 1987; Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, Rules 43, 52, 56, 65 and Federal Rules of Evidence 201(b); and the conflicting decisions of (1) Celotex Corp. v. Catrett, 477 U.S. 317 (1986); Doran v. McGinness, 158 F.R.D. 383 (1994); Siderman De Blak v. Republic of Argentina, 946 F.2d 1450 (9th Cir. 1991) [Torture]. IX. STATEMENT OF THE CASE AND FACTS 1. Under the Federal Torts Claim Act, 26 U.S.C. §§2671-2680; 28 U.S.C. §1356(b); 42 U.S.C. §§1983 and 1988; The Protection of Human Rights Act; The Convention Against Torture and Cruel, Inhumane, or Degrading Treatment or Punishment; and the Civil Rights Act all serve the purpose of preventing the violation of individual rights guaranteed under the First, Second, Fourth, Fifth, Seventh, Ninth, Fourteenth, and Seventeenth Amendments of the Constitution of the United States. These Acts have been integrated and are now known as the Electronic Communication Privacy Act of 1986 (18 U.S.C. §§2510-2520 (1988) [Title I]) and the Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968 (18 U.S.C. §§2510-2520 (1968) [Title III]) and applied to other domestic statutes to the states as well, which are omitted in the interests of judicial economy but reserved as a matter of right. There have been a few cases (Koyomejian, Siderman De Blak, Doran, of most important) which have focused primarily on the criminal context of their application to illegal torture under color of authority and illegal invasion of privacy on the issues of (1) the gross intrusive level of invasion of privacy through modern electronic means and (2) the use of modern or state-of-the art electronic methodology used to torture individual citizens, including the torture of political witnesses against corrupt Government officials. Although there are inconsistent Appellate decisions in the United States Appellate Court and the sparse publication of such opinions, there is a gross lack of continuity in the application of law in these areas nationwide, now requiring Supreme Court Review (Appendix No. 5). 2. Appellant Schlund, an ex-United States Marine, was solicited by the United States Drug Enforcement Agency ("DEA") to participate in various activities of an illegal nature. He refused. He was then set up by the DEA with fabricated evidence and arrested and charged as being an alleged drug manufacturer in Cave Creek, Arizona. The conspiracy by the DEA to fabricate the evidence was a planned scheme designed to enable them to create a reasonable suspicion and probable cause for creating an investigation task force to place Appellant Schlund under surveillance, to invade his privacy, due process, remoe Schlund as a witness to corruption in the DEA, and other constitutional protection and those of whom he comes in contact with. Also, to discredit him as a political witness and utilize electronic surveillance for information gathering concerning all those of whom he comes in contact with, including, but not limited to, the attorney-client privilege, physician-patient privilege, clergyman-penitent privilege, privacy of voting privilege, privacy of association, privacy of speech, etc. The gross intrusions were also made of his body, personal residence, papers, affects and things. He asserts in his verified Complaint ("Complaint") and many affidavits filed in the case that during one or more of the episodes of intrusion, subcutaneous body implants of a CIA design were used by the DEA ("Electronic Implants") and separately various forms of electronic vibration, sounds, magnetic fields, radio waves, and other unknown forms of torture have been imposed upon him through electronic force resulting in torturing of him as a form of retaliation and violation of his civil rights, causing him extensive losses and damages, personally and in his commercial activities. 3. Petitioner Lang asserted a single declaratory relief cause of action, asserting the Government does not have the right to use sophisticated surveillance telecommunications activities and other integrated devices and methodologies to violate his rights to privacy and association with Schlund or other members of the public. Or to harass, torture, or otherwise violate his or other third parties of whom he associates, or violate protective privileges also set forth above. Lang asserted the course of intervention for a declaratory judgment is necessary to prevent violations under color of authority or retaliate against him for his association with Petitioner Schlund (Appendix Nos. 3-5). 4. Petitioner Schlund's Criminal Acquittal. Despite the fact the DEA violated their oath of office while acting under color of law for the purpose of fabricating evidence, perjured testimony, and other illegal acts outside the course and scope of their authority, and in violation of Petitioner Schlund's rights (Appendix No. 5), Petitioner set the matter for a jury trial. It was established at the trial that the Government used an alleged "informant" who lied to induce Schlund by means of illegal entrapment to come to the location of a laboratory under false pretenses. The laboratory was set up by the Government to suck Schlund into the entrapment posture to remove Schlund as a witness against the DEA to conceal massive corruption in the DEA. Petitioner Schlund did go to the location, where he was recorded by electronic surveillance cameras and other telecommunications related devices and methodology, showing Schlund performing various activities at the Government's (DEA) directions at the property located in Arizona (Appendix No. 5). Petitioner Schlund then left the residence where the so-called laboratory was located and was followed by the Government surveillance agents who then arrested him without a warrant and alleged on probable cause they believed he was operating an illicit methamphetamine laboratory (Appendix Nos. 3 and 5). 5. Later, on January 3, 1979, Petitioner Schlund after a jury trial, was "acquitted" in the United States District Court, Phoenix, Arizona of all charges of conspiracy, etc. related to the trumped up drug charges that were created to remove Petitioner Schlund sa a witness against the DEA. The Dept. of Justice ("DOJ") appealed that decision, and the decision was sustained in favor of Schlund (Appendix No. 5). 6. NOTE BENE: Judge Lacey of the United States District Court aggressively and severely reprimanded and told the governmental officials and the prosecutor they were "in contempt" and demanded they be "arrested" for committing "perjury" and "obstructing justice in his court" and for fabricating evidence against Petitioner Schlund. The acquittal was upheld on appeal; and on March 3, 1980 the DOJ and the DEA were advised by the United States Attorney General, Daniel R. Dray, there would be no further prosecution on the grounds of lack of evidence, and presumably because Judge Lacey noted there was "outrageous prosecutorial misconduct" which included withholding crucial evidence critical to Petitioner Schlund's defense (Appendix No. 5). 7. Despite the acquittal, the conspiracy, illegal surveillance, illegal invasion of privacy, and the electronic torture of Petitioner Schlund was and is continuous and ongoing to present. Petitioner Schlund has asserted in his verified Complaint that the DEA tortures him and continues to invade his privacy, based on personal knowledge he possesses relating to documentation he personally analyzed and reviewed contained in files known as the "Don Boles Papers." That he is a political witness, and the torture etc. is done to discredit him to protect the corrupt governmental officials who are involved in the corrupt activity of the Government's covert operations, which include controlling federal and state judges in the judicial system. In fact, Petitioner Schlund filed a Motion to Recuse United States District Judge, the Honorable Robert C. Broomfield, based on his personal knowledge as set forth in Petitioner Schlund's Motion for Refusal and Affidavit in Support of the Motion. The judge was assigned to his case after the Honorable Rosalyn Silver recused herself on the grounds she was an ex-United States Assistant Attorney in the DEA's office for over ten years (Appendix Nos. 3, 4, and 5), although this was not disclosed by her and later discovered by Petitioners. 8. On December 18, 1998, the Government filed its two page pleading entitled "Motion to Dismiss" or, alternatively, "Motion for Summary Judgment," asserting only (1) no basis in reality existed as set forth in the verified Complaint and (2) that Petitioner Schlund could not prove the existence of the nature of the electronic technology used by the Government with any tangible or scientific evidence (Appendix No. 6). Further, that because Lang's declaratory relief action was based on Schlund's facts alleged in the Complaint, it was not a viable cause of action (Appendix Nos. 5 & 6). The Motion to Dismiss was denied. The Motion for Summary Judgment, oddly enough, was only supported by a ipse dixit statement asserted in a footnote to the motion (Appendix 6) that the Government relied exclusively and solely on Plaintiff's detailed verified Complaint which asserts extensive specific facts supporting each of the causes of action (Appendix No. 5). The Government did [not] submit a single foundational piece of evidence supporting any personal or other factual knowledge supporting the U.S. attorneys bias, prejudicial, and self-serving interest "opinion" contrary to the Verified Complaint - Affidavit. There literally is and was no factual basis for the attorney's opinion which is not evidence in any event sufficient to support a Motion for Summary Judgment (Appendix No. 6). The Court entered judgment on the motion, despite Petitioners' objections and requests for findings of fact and conclusions of law (Appendix No. 7). 9. On September 14, 1999, Petitioner filed a Motion for Reconsideration of the Court's Sept. 1, 1999 Order granting Summary Judgment and on September 30, 1999 filed Supplemental Points and Authorities in support of the motion. Petitioner strenuously urges the Supreme Court to carefully focus on the Supplemental (Appendix No. 7) as it goes into great detail as to not only the triable issues of fact, but Supreme Court case law which supports Petitioner's position previously dealt with by this Court involving the wide range of scientific and other electronic-force technologies used not only by the United States Government but others as well. See, Central Intelligence Agency v. John Cary Sims and Sidney M. Wolfe, 471 U.S. 159, 85 L.Ed. 2d 185 S.Ct. 1881 (1965) (Appendix Nos. 9 & 10). Petitioner abundantly laid out the avalanche of triable issues of material fact set forth in the verified Complaint which was exclusively relied upon by both the Petitioner and the Government (Appendix Nos. 5 and 6). Obviously, since the verified Complaint was of the personal knowledge of Petitioner Schlund and which was further supported by numerous affidavits (Appendix Nos. 5 7, 8, 9, 10 and 12) and the Government lacked all personal knowledge of every nature and kind whatsoever, and the U.S. Attorney's self-serving opinion which is not evidence by any stretch of the means, especially when only asserted in the two page motion as a conclusion (Appendix No. 6), the initial burden required under the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, Rule 56 was not satisfied; and no burden shifted to the Petitioner to overcome the motion as a matter of law (Appendix Nos. 3-5 and 7-12). On December 14, 1999, the District Court entered its Order denying Plaintiff's Motion for Reconsideration (Excerpt 2). 10. Because the Government relied exclusively on the verified Complaint (as did Petitioner), and failed to file a separate Statement of Facts required under F.R.C.P. Rule 52 and 56, Petitioner did not file a formal Opposition; and Petitioner relied on his pleading on grounds the Government did not assert any issues relevant or actually involved as asserted in the Petitioner's verified Complaint. Petitioner advised the court of this fact only for the purpose to explain that the Government did not file an answer to the verified Complaint, its Motion for Summary Judgment was based on facts not asserted in the verified Complaint but made up and fabricated by the Government ("mental telepathy", which was never pled), and the Petitioner had no controverting issues or arguments to its own verified pleading, solely relied upon by both the Government and the Petitioner. The Government did not file any opposition to Petitioner's Motion for Reconsideration on the issues (Appendix Nos. 3, 4, 5, and 7). 11. Petitioner filed his Notice of Appeal and Appellate Opening and Reply Briefs (Appendix Nos. 3 and 4). Petitioners filed an injunctive relief Notice and Motion for Order for Relief from Governmental Invasion of Privacy, Harassment and Torture of Petitioner Schlund on July 21, 2000 (Appendix Nos. 8 & 9) to stop the irreparable harm which was summarily denied (Appendix No. 8) on September 20, 2000. The Appellate Court then noticed the parties the court was ready for calendaring. The court continued failed and refused to render findings of fact and conclusions of law as specifically requested in the motion (Appendix Nos. 3-5 and 7-12). 12. Petitioners filed an Notice and Motion for Order for Clarification of Order of Denial of Plaintiff's Motion for Order for Relief on the grounds (1) the denial order did not specify the reasons for the denial adequate for appeal or review required under F.R.C.P. Rule 52 and 56, (2) the motion involved three distinct and independent reasons for the granting of such motion, relative to the different causes of action asserted by the separate Petitioner's positions on appeal on the merits, (3) the denial of the motion without specific reason leads to the awkward impression the court is intentionally disregarding the testimony under oath and ratifying the electronic torture of Petitioner Schlund, and (4) both Petitioners specifically requested findings of fact and conclusions of law in support of the motion for an adequate record for further review by special writ, which violated Petitioner's due process, resulting in prejudicial error by depriving the Petitioners an adequate record for appeal to the United States Supreme Court on the injunctive issues (Appendix No. 9). 13. Petitioner filed a Notice of Request for Oral Argument (Appendix No. 10), along with a Notice of Request for Disclosure of Case Classification (Appendix No. 11) related to the case under Federal Rules of Appellate Procedure, "Court Structure and Procedures," E [Court Procedures for Processing and Hearing of Cases] (1) Classification of Cases by Type, Issue, and Difficulty. Petitioners were concerned that the "weight of a case" is not merely an indication of the relative amount of judicial time that will probably be consumed in disposing of the appeal but the fact it is possibly a "pretext" under the Rule for the unconstitutional and improper "profiling" of a case selectively targeted for dismissal without any findings of fact and conclusions of law, such as here. All of the aforesaid were either (1) not responded to at all by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals or (2) summarily "denied" without the repeatedly requested findings of fact and conclusions of law under F.R.C.P. Rule 52. 14. Petitioners filed a Notice and Motion for (1) Order of Suspension of Motion Deadline and (2) Motion for Summary Judgment, or Alternatively, (3) Partial Adjudication of the Facts (Appendix No. 12), which was also summarily denied by the Appellate Court. 15. The verified Complaint specifically requested findings of fact and conclusions of law (Appendix No. 5 at p. 17, par. 5, lns, 3-5) and continuously requested such findings of fact and conclusions of law in every pleading and brief filed with the Trial and Appellate Court and has never been waived (Appendix Nos. 3-5 and 7-12). Despite these continuous written and repeated requests for findings of fact and conclusions of law, all have been rejected by the Trial and Appellate Court by simply failing and refusing to comply with F.R.C.P. Rules 43, 52(c), 56, 65, and Restatement 702. Petitioners have no adequate record for the Supreme Court to review per Supreme Court Rule 14(h)(i)(ii) and (vi).

REASONS FOR GRANTING THE PETITION As it stands, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has entered decisions in conflict with the decision of previous cases it decided by simply refusing to respond to the important issues raised in Petitioner's verified Complaint, Appellate Briefs and Motions (1) which are directly in conflict with United States Supreme Court decisions and other circuit courts on the same important matter; (2) the District Court and Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals failed to decide important federal questions of genuine issues of material fact based on constitutional and federal statutes prohibiting (a) invasion of privacy etc. and (b) torture of a citizen; and (3) the District Court and the Court of Appeals has so far departed from the accepted and usual course of judicial proceedings, or the Appellate Court sanctioned such a departure by the Central District Court as to now call for an exercise of this Court's discretion of its supervisory power to compel the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals to make findings of fact and conclusions of law for a proper appellate record, to allow Petitioners to exercise their due process rights pursuant to the Rules of the Supreme Court of the United States, Rule 14(1)(h)(i)(i)(ii) [This Rule specifically requests the Appendix contain the order indicating the "findings of fact and conclusions of law," whether written or orally given and transcribed, entered in conjunction with the judgment sought to be reviewed, and any other "findings of fact and conclusions of law" entered in the case.] Petitioner's due process rights have been effectively cut off by not having findings of fact and conclusions of law from which to present to the United States Supreme Court, despite they were repeatedly requested by Petitioners and never waived. Likewise, Petitioner specifically requests the Honorable United States Supreme Court for findings of fact and conclusions of law for purposes of this appeal as well. X. LEGAL ARGUMENTS A. The Court Erred in Interpreting The Supreme Court's Decision of Celotex Corp. V. Catrett And Failed to Make Findings of Fact And Conclusions of Law, Despite Petitioners Requested Such For Review on Appeal. This Supreme Court, in the Celotex Corp. v. Catrett, 477 U.S. 317, 106 S.Ct. 2548 (1986) court decision established the controlling standard and initial evidence shifting standard on Motions for Summary Judgment under F.R.C.P. Rule 56(c)..."The judgment sought shall be rendered forthwith if the pleadings....together with affidavits, if any, show there is no genuine issue as to any material fact; and the moving party is entitled to a judgment as a matter of law..." Under (e) [Form of Affidavits], "Supporting an opposing affidavit should be made on personal knowledge, shall set forth fact as would be admissible in evidence, and shall show affirmatively that the affiant is competent to testify to the matter stated therein. Sworn or certified copies of all papers or parts thereof referred to in an affidavit shall be attached thereto or served therewith...when a Motion for Summary Judgment is made and supported as provided in this Rule, an adverse party may not rest upon the mere allegations or denials of the adverse party's pleading, but the adverse party's response...must set forth specific facts showing there is a genuine issue for trial..." The form of affidavit exclusively relied upon by the Government was the exact same affidavit relied upon by Petitioners-a pleading-Petitioner's verified Complaint (Appendix Nos. 3, 4, and 5). Petitioners have personal knowledge of the facts stated in the verified Complaint, while the Government did not (Appendix No. 7). The Government did not satisfy the requirement under Rule 56(e), made and supported as provided in this Rule, an adverse party (Government) may not rest upon the mere allegations ... of the adverse [Government] party's pleading..." as the Government did here. Thus, the Government has the "initial" burden of filing their Motion for Summary Judgment, made and supported as provided in the Rule, which requires it cannot exclusively rest upon the mere allegations of Petitioner's verified Compliant (Affidavit) for doing so. The Government placed its lack of personal knowledge, lack of foundation, and nothing more than merely the ipse dixit (the Assistant Attorney General's personal opinion and conclusion), which is not evidence, leaving the Government in a position of not satisfying the initial burden under Rule 56(e) (Appendix Nos. 3, 4, and 5). The court's granting of the Motion for Summary Judgment, declaring there were no triable issues and material fact was prejudicial error, requiring reversal (Appendix No. 8). The District Court and the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, upholding the decision, placed the Celotex decision in direct conflict with the United States Supreme Court's decision in Matsushita Electric Industry Co. v. Zenith Radio Corp. 475 U.S. 574, 587 (1986), "The initial burden is with the movant to point to those portions of the record that demonstrate an absence of a genuine issue of material fact given the relevant substantive law." Also citing Thomas v. Wichita Coca Cola Bottling Co., 968 F.2d 1022 (10th Circ.) cert. denied, 506 U.S. 1013 (1992), which requires the court to view the evidence of the record and draw all reasonable inferences in the light most favorable to the non-movant (Petitioners). This Supreme Court established that when a party (Government) relies on only conclusionary allegations, it cannot defeat a properly supported Motion for Summary Judgment, nor can a party make a Motion for Summary Judgment relying on "conclusionary allegations," especially with nothing more than inadmissable attorney opinion and conclusions such as here. In other words, Petitioners filed a specific and detailed Motion for Summary Judgement in the Appellate Court (Appendix No. 12) requesting findings of fact and conclusions of law to compel the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals to establish a record for Petitioners supporting, in fact, there were no genuine material issues of fact raised in the verified Complaint pled on the personal knowledge of Petitioner Schlund, contrary to the mere attorney opinion filed in the District Court based on Celotex. Instead of flushing out the truth of what genuine issues of material fact did or did not exist, both the District Court and the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals failed and refused to issue findings of fact and conclusions of law, despite being repeatedly requested by Petitioners at every stage in the proceedings, which have never been waived (Appendix Nos. 3-12). Petitioners can only conclude the Honorable District Court, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals Court, simply did not know what to do in a perplexing situation in which both the Plaintiff and the Defendant move for Motions for Summary Judgment relying on exactly the same verified pleading, such as here (Appendix Nos. 5, 7, 8, and 12) [At the District Court level, the Government relied on Petitioner's verified pleading and moved for Summary Judgment on attorney's opinion; and Petitioner's move for Summary Judgement, at the Appellate level, on the same set of pleadings, requesting findings of fact and conclusions of law, at both stages of the proceedings both courts failed and refused to accommodate the request because of the reliance on this Court's Celotex decision and its previous Ninth Circuit's decisions, which have never dealt with this type of factual scenario. This case is a case of first impression, requiring the United States Supreme Court to exercise its discretion and use its supervisory powers so there is continuity in the application of its decisions concerning motions for summary judgement, such as here (Appendix Nos. 4, 8, and 12). B. The District Court Greatly Departed From The Accepted And Usual Course of Judicial Proceedings, Which The Appellate Court Ratified When it Accepted The Government's Fabrication of Fact to The Doran Case And Then Refused to Make Findings of Fact And Conclusions of Law, Requested by Petitioners, Requiring The Exercise of The United States Supreme Court Supervisory Power to Protect Petitioner's Constitutional Rights. The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals in Siderman De Blak v. Republic of Argentina, supra [Torture] and The United States v. Koyomejian, 946 F.2d 1450 (1991) [Gross Intrusion and Invasion of Privacy Through Sophisticated Electronic Tele-Communication Devices] should be interpreted together in support of Petitioner's Motion for Summary Judgement filed with the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals requesting findings of fact and conclusions of law on that issue, which it failed and refused to do (Appendix Nos. 3-12). The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has stated such technology does in fact exist, irrespective of whether its ignored by the lower court (Appendix No. 4). The Ninth Circuit Appellate Court clearly acknowledged the factual reality of the Government's gross misuses of "technology and devices" to violate innocent citizens privacy and "its" use of "torture" by the Government on its citizenry (Appendix Nos. 3 and 4). The United States Supreme Court in Anderson v. Liberty Lobby, Inc., 477 U.S. 242 (1986) again established, after its Celotex decision that "the evidence of the non-movant is to be believed, and all justifiable inferences are to be drawn in his favor." The Government's exclusive reliance on Petitioner's verified Complaint constitute a stipulation by the Government that the additional factual averments, along with all justifiable inferences, were to be drawn in favor of the Petitioner, not reached in the Government's partial Motion for Summary Judgment. The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals issued its grave concerns about the Government's use of such technology, the fact of its existence, and then failed and refused to issue Petitioner's findings of fact and conclusions of law as to whether such technology could actually be used to not only invade privacy but to be used more modernly to torture Petitioner Schlund, causing the injury and damages as pled in his verified Complaint (Appendix Nos. 3, 4, 5, 8, 9 and 12). Petitioner Schlund has continuously objected to various governmental departments, including but not limited to the DOJ and DEA, but also the courts concerning the torture of him, his witnesses, and his attorney and altering of evidence (Appendix No. 5). The Government did not file an Answer or any other document placing any of the allegations in the Verified Complaint in dispute. Instead it switched the fact, claiming Petitioners pled "mental telepathy" and cited the Doran v. McGinness case as controlling and moved for Summary Judgment, based on Celotex. Judge Broomfield failed to recuse himself, although no opposition was ever filed to Petitioner's Motion for Recusal then granted Summary Judgment and disregarded Petitioner's repeated request for findings of fact and conclusions of law on the basis of its decision (Appendix Nos. 3, 4, and 8-12). It ignored the facts stated on Petitioner Schlund's personal knowledge in his verified Complaint and affidavits in support and in opposition to the Summary Judgment, it accepted the Government's conclusionary opinions the Complaint alleged "mental telepathy" when it clearly did not, and it allowed the application of the Doran decision to control on "mental telepathy", where no such factual issues were raised in the verified Complaint or anywhere else by Petitioners. Thus, it grossly departed from the normal rules of procedure and fairness and allowed the creation of facts which didn't exist and attached controlling law which was not at issue to such facts and deliberately entered an order dismissing the action, depriving Petitioners of a right to a jury trial, which has also never been waived (Appendix No. 5, p. 1). Needless to say, such grave departure and ratification of same by the Appellate Court have the effect of ratifying not only torture, gross invasion of privacy, denial of a right of a jury trial through procedural gainsmanship, but also have resulted in gross impropriety and destruction of the appearance of justice so cherished by the honorable court system. Moreover, the gross departure by both the lower and Appellate Court of the United States Supreme Court's rules (Rule 14(h)(i)(ii) and (vi), federal law, and case law decisions against torture and other violations of constitutional right, including its Supreme Court rules for procedure for the lower courts to follow (F.R.C.P. 43, 52, 56 and 65), now necessitate the discretion of the Honorable United States Supreme Court to clarify for the lower courts such departures should not be tolerated at the cost of its citizenry and the dignitary powers of the United States Supreme Court's rules, case law, and the federal enactments and provide continuity again for the courts to follow. CONCLUSION The Petition for Writ of Certiorari should be granted. Petitioners request the Court to vacate the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals' decisions and order it to make findings of fact and conclusions of law for an adequate record for the Supreme Court's review if it becomes necessary in the interests of justice. Respectfully submitted,

Date Charles A. Schlund, III Petitioner in Pro Per

Date: Randy D. Lang Petitioner in Pro Per XII. CERTIFICATE OF COMPLIANCE

Petitioners Petition for Writ of Certiorari complies with Arizona Supreme Court Rules, Rules 10 et seq., where applicable as to form and content.

March 14, 2001 Date Randy D. Lang Petitioner In Pro Per XIII. NOTICE OF PROOF OF SERVICE

I, Randy D. Lang, the undersigned, certify and declare that I am over the age of 18 and reside in Maricopa County, State of Arizona. On March 14, 2000, I served by First Class Mail (40) copies of the Petition for Writ of Certiorari, and its Appendix, and two copies to all parties listed on the List of Parties named at the beginning of this document. I declare, under penalty of perjury, that the foregoing is true and correct to the best of my

knowledge.

Date: March 14, 2001 By Randy D. Lang, Declarant

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Date: Sun, 18-Mar-2001 22:28:45 GMT From: <Perpdetector@hotmail.com> Subject: Are you a target of multiple stalkers?

http://www.stopcovertwar.com/perps.html

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Date: Sun, 18-Mar-2001 22:34:04 GMT From: <Perpdetector@hotmail.com> Subject: Defeating "Mind-Control" Technology

http://www.anarchist.com/library/Submitted%20Articles/Defeating%20Mind%20Control%20Technology.htm

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Date: Sun, 18-Mar-2001 22:35:07 GMT From: <Perpdetector@hotmail.com> Subject: radiation bombardment

http://www.cowan70.freeserve.co.uk/new_world_order/mi5_mind_control.htm

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Date: Sun, 18-Mar-2001 23:04:47 GMT From: <Perpdetector@hotmail.com> Subject: Michael Sweeney's Radio comments: MC

http://playlist.broadcast.com/makeram.asp?id=824161

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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 09:40:59 -0000 From: "Catcher of The Catcher in the Rye" <thefbiisthecatcherintherye@hotmail.com> Subject: 1992 October Surprise Info

Can ANYONE help me find the two newspaper articles which appeared in the the Los Angeles Times in 1991 :

#1) An minor item, which appeared somewhere between January 21, 1991 -May4, 1991, in the A-section. (More likely dates are March & April 1991) It was a one-paragraph article which stated that an East-German reporter had PRETENDED to be a foreign government and, under this pretext, had asked former members of the East-German STASI whether they would be willing to assassinate someone for One Million US Dollars. 80% of those who replied said they'd be willing to do it but instead the reporter published the results of his survey as an article in East-Germany which caused a minor scandal.

#2) The headline, "ISRAEL VOWS (or RESERVES THE RIGHT) TO RETALIATE", which in the days following Saddam Hussein's bombing went around the planet. You only have to check the FRONT PAGE of the Los Angeles Times, during the period of January 18, 1991 - January 24, 1991.

Item #1 has dissaperared from the microfilm record, so UNLESS you got HARDCOPIES going all the way back to 1991, there is little chance you'd find it.

Itm #2) may have dissapeared from the microfilm record, though I'm not 100% sure. It certainly dissapeared from the microfilm record of a library I checkeed near London in 1995. ------------------------------------------- And , if anyone has access to ABC's WORLD NEWS TONIGHT :

#a) The report by Peter Jennings, broadcasted on ABC's WORLD NEWS TONIGHT a few days AFTER the Gulf War, either on February 28, 1991 or in March 1991, (but possibly as late as April 1991) that "the first people to enter Iraq after the Gulf War were German businessmen seeking contracts to rebuild Iraq".

#b) The announcement former President George Bush (Senior) made on December 29, 1992 or on December 30, 1992 (the MOST LIKELY DATE is December 29, 1992) on ABC's World News Tonight with Peter Jennings that "something unexspected has come up and he would have to meet with French President Francois Mitterand rightaway". ---------------------------------------------------

All these ITEMS have DISSAPEARED from the record where they are normally preserved on. In other words, the Los Angeles Times articles are not preserved on microfilm and the ABC News items can no longer be found in the news computers at ABC, so check your PRIVATE records, I will explain more later. (This info is related to George Bush's 1992 "October Surprise" which I prevented)

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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 11:59:45 -0000 From: "Maureen Norman" <m.a.norman@ntlworld.com> Subject: Feedback On The Torture Trade

FEEDBACK ON "THE TORTURE TRADE" My recent feature, "The Torture Trade", has generated some great reader responses. The feature was based on a new report from Amnesty International that describes the growing trade in the tools of torture between companies and countries. According to the report, the US is the industry leader in this field -- more than 80 US companies are involved in the manufacture, marketing and export of this type of equipment. Read all about it. http://humanrights.about.com/library/weekly/aa031801a.htm

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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 06:51:25 -0600 From: "R. Nelson" <protogod@swbell.net> Subject: RE: Diesel-electric traction locomotives

First, I wish to apologize to the HTML postings. I have Outlook Express set for plain text to newsgroups, but posting to the lsit uses e-mail, and I had that set for HTML.

Second, I wish to apologize for the flames. I receieved the reply message in my mailbox, replied to it, but I thought it was a private reply, not a general reply to the entire list. I admit that I flamed, but I did not realize that the flame would be posted to the list; I only saw the sender's return e-mail, with no cc: or bcc:, so I thought the reply was not going to be posted to the list.:

>Greetings, >No offense, but

An obvious troll

>In the state of Colorado alone, over 60% of all trackage >right of ways are in excess of 3%, which is a considderable >grade for a mile long coal train. >In the state of Utah this number goes up to 81%. >And this is only 2 of the Rocky Mountain States. >From California, to the Plains there are far to many >Steep Grades to mention here.

An obvious troll: conveniently left out is the fact that steam locomotives used to pull long coal trains up these very same grades.

>As for your comments above about there being only a >small or limited number of "Steep Grades" is also >not correct.

Which is easily perceived as a flame or a troll, since the definitation of 'a steep grade' is entirely arbitrary.

I could be wrong, but 80 percent appears from my perspective to be a troll, because I have it from three different very respectable authorities that 66 percent is the most that is possible, and this was fact, not theory, which could be mathematically proven. However, this contacts were made from 1986 to 1990, and perhaps there was some flaw in the accepted proof that did not get discovered until a later date.

Obviously, it was a troll to begin with, since even if diesel-electrics had acheived an 80 percent effciency, someone who claims to be well-versed knows that the efficiency of steam is much better than 80 percent. Therefore, it was a general attack upon my credibity without a defendable proof, which is a troll or a flame in and of itself.

Perhaps the troll came from an assumption that I beleive that the infrasound produced by diesel-electric locomotives is an intentional design purpose; I do not: I merely mentioned what I did as an interesting sidebar article. At any rate, it appeared to be a private reply, and I assumed that my reply would be private as well, and not posted to the group.

Its been a while since I dealt with a BBS or newsgroups, so I will fall back to past experience in such matters: put my faith in normal people who are attending the group having the required background and experience to identify trolls and disinformation, and simply ignore the trolls. As for this issue, this is a fairly off-topic issue to begin with, this is the last I have to say about it.

For the list moderator: I apologize again for the flame: if I ever feel the need again, based on a private message that I receive, I will copy the user's name and send the reply as an original e-mail, to be certain that my reply goes only to the sender, and not the entire list. It is good that list is policed so well, but please remember to attempt to police the trolls as well.

I can usually be found on dalnet or undernet in the #[FekLar] room

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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 09:05:30 -0600 From: "R. Nelson" <protogod@swbell.net> Subject: Trolls and Flames

I received some more troll flames in my mailbox again, and true to my word, I am ignoring the waste of electricity.

I will post one more word on the subject of trolls and flames in general, and then let the matter rest:

http://home.swbell.net/protogod

http://protogod.exit.de

Rob's Spiritual Servitude Page, which indicates both wisdom and non-wisdom: not for the meek. WARNING: those pages contain profanity, so don't visit them if you would find that offensive.

Those of you who do have the *iron* to face those pages, it is an interesting case study, perhaps THE most interesting case study ever produced, in the effects of attempted mind control, relating my experiences with lame religious scam running Soviets trying to involve me in one of their lamer religious scams they tried pulling in the USA, and why they know better then to try to pull that with me again, or in general with anyone, for that matter. The material regarding the consequences of the Russians having made the serious error of ever breaching the subject is also given plenty of coverage.

tv.htm and hit.htm give the best details, although there are other references made in bn.htm and /hmp/hmp/htm.

The Russians pull this right under the noses of the U.S. government, even afer repeated attempts to bring it to the attention of the government, and the government is too dense to be able to see it: I had to deal with the problem myself, and when I say it got dealt with, that is an understatement. I'm undoubtedly not finished dealing with it.

I don't expect moronic trolls or morons in general to be able to follow it, but for the rest of you, you will find it a highly entertaining treatise on the fate of lamers that make the mistake of attempting to use mind control deives, and certain other immensely foolish activities.

You normal people should stick to minn.htm and all of its subpages before moving on to losers.htm (the spiritual servitude page). Trolls on the other hand should start with losers.htm , then move to minn.htm . (I charge a penalty for trolling, and it isnt cheap)

After everyone reads it all, we ought to take a poll. All of the trolls will say that I am entirely mistaken regarding the content of those pages, where everyone else will profess that there is no doubt that I am correct, with knowing smiles on their faces.

Some truly bizarre subject material is presented in some places, but there is fact and evidence that backs all of it up. The more of it you normal people read, the more obvious it will become that this is a case of strange, but true. If there is some credibility problem, I would suggest that you start with tv.htm , hit.htm , and then go back and try minn.htm again.

I can usually be found on dalnet or undernet in the #[FekLar] room

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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 10:27:35 -0600 From: "R. Nelson" <protogod@swbell.net> Subject: For Troll identification purposes

Maybe this will serve to weed trolls out of this list:

If what were said were true about a generator or motor that was proven to convert at 80 percent efficiency, rather than the 66 percent efficiency than had been (and likely still is) acepted as the mathematically proven maximum efficiency in any motor or generator, the following fact still remains, and yet was noticible by its absence in the detractor's post who attacked my credibility:

Any diesel engine automatically wastes 20 percent of its input energy potential as heat: Trolls can verify this by running an engine for 30 minutes, and then standing over the radiator cap and removing it. Hold your head real close to the cap so that you can see the result. Normal people can verify this by waiting 20 minutes, then placing their hand over the radiator.

Don't post about the high efficiency of the internal combustion home heat furnace: that is a heat production device, not a power production device. In terms of heat production, its verified claims of better than 99 percent efficiency are true, but this is for heat production, not mechanical energy production. Any diesel or internal combustion engine wastes about 20 percent of the burned fuel as exhaust heat and radiated heat.

Let's theorize, and say that a motor and a generator did exist that were both capable of acheiving an efficiency of 80 percent. The first conversion, from fuel to mechanical power is 80 percent efficient. The conversion from mechanical energy to electricity would be 80 percent. The conversion back to mechanical energy would be 80 percent. 80 percent times 80 percent times 80 percent equals a total fuel efficiency of a mere 51 percent (.8*.8*.8=0.512). The 'hypotehetical locomotive' that could attain fuel efficiency of 80 percent would have to contain motors and generators that were 100 percent efficient, because there is always a unused heat energy loss of 20 percent. I would suggest that you walk up on top of an operating diesel-electric lcomotive, and stand directly on top of one of the heat exhaust fan grates, to gain a true appreciation of the amount of wasted heat.

What was contained in that post that claimed the existence of a locomotive that had a total fuel efficiency of 80 percent was outright disinformation.

The correct information is 80 percent * 66 percent * 66 percent, or a grand total of a 35 percent fuel efficiency, under perfect operating conditions. (.8*.66*.66=0.34848) If what I say is true, then the total fuel efficiency of a diesel-electric locomotive is 35 percent. If what the detractor posted were true, then the total fuel efficiency of a diesel-electric locomotive is 51 percent.

A steam engine, that converts the fuel directly to heat, with very little heat loss, and converts the heat directly to mechanical energy, at a better than 99 percent efficieny, will run at better than 90 percent total fuel efficiency, under normal operating conditions. If what I say is correct, then the railroads are paying three times as much for fuel as they really need to pay. If what the detractor said were true, then the railroads are paying twice as much for fuel as they really need to pay.

As for the safety of passenger rail, or safety in general, a flatcar can be carried directly behind the locomotives, (with an aerodynamic cover), carrying 8 small CNG (compressed natural gas) tanks, arranged four to each side, with pressure sensitive valves that close if a fuel line break should occur. Upon an impact (collision or derailment), the tanks would detach and go flying off away from the train in random directions. Housing technologies exist that can produce containment strong enough to house a small nuclear reactor within a 747, capable of withstanding a midair collision with another plane at 25,000 feet, followed by a 25,000 foot fall to a concrete parking lot with no containment breach, and no loss of radioactivity whatsoever. Search the internet for honeycombed aluminum and honeycomb construction steel containment vessels. Obviosuly, for safety reasons, you wouldn't simply place a natural gas tank car between AMTRAK natural gas powered steam locomotives and the passenger cars.

While I should have read the rules better and refrained from flaming, all of the above facts can be verified, and many are common knowedge, therefore that the reply was a troll and an effort to attack my credibility are self-evident. I apologize again for the flaming, regardless of that it was deserved.

I know what I know about railroads. In 1984, I invented a technology that automatically prevents head on train collisions, which the railroads installed in 1987. This is why you haven't heard of a head on train collision since 1987. http://protogod.exit.de/rrcontrib.htm , or go to http://home.swbell.net/protogod and wait until you are redirected to my server, then type in rrcontrib.htm , or click on the skull and scroll down to the railroad contribution (my contribution to date)

I can usually be found on dalnet or undernet in the #[FekLar] room

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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 09:03:32 -0800 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> Subject: List replies

protogod@swbell.net said:

> Second, I wish to apologize for the flames. I receieved the reply > message in my mailbox, replied to it, but I thought it was a private reply, >not a general reply to the entire list.

The MC list is set up so that replies automatically go to the sender, rather than to the list, as you can verify by examining the full header. Normally, email software sets the "To" when replying to the "Reply-To" that the list sends (for example: Reply-To: protogod@swbell.net). You might see if there's a setting in your Outlook Express to correct the use of "Reply-To" or else switch to another email program.

> An obvious troll

What do you mean by "troll"? The usage on the Net I'm familiar with refers to list spying.

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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 09:09:47 -0800 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> Subject: RE: [MC] For Troll identification purposes

Railroads are off-topic on this list unless you're discussing infrasound or some other aspect related to the list focus.

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Date: Mon, 19-Mar-2001 23:12:05 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: MC Picket

Got a call today from a friend that someone was seen out in front of McMaster University (on the other side of town from Me) picketing with sign that said something about MC. We went down to find them and join in, but had a bunch of car trouble on the way, so we never made it.

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Date: Mon, 19-Mar-2001 23:17:20 GMT From: <ecotoday@aol.com> Subject: MILABS ( MILITARY MIND CONTROL AND ALIEN ABDUCTION. )

from surfingtheapocalypse.com:

MILABS ( MILITARY MIND CONTROL AND ALIEN ABDUCTION. ) (AN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT ASPECT OF TODAY'S UFOLOGY.) http://www.thelosthaven.co.uk/Milabs.html An Article By Malcolm Robinson. (SPI England)

UFOlogy today, is a mish mash of many weird and wonderful ideas, speculations and theories abound like there is no tomorrow and one wonders can this subject get any more fanciful !! Admittedly we should not forget that speculation is fine so long as it is constructive and is done with the sole purpose of finding some answers. UFOlogy has seen many books all portraying our subject with these differing ideas. Some authors would have us believe that we are being visited by 'beings' from Zeta Reticuli, whilst others would have us believing that we are being visited by Time Travellers, Parallel Universal 'beings' or whatever, the list is extensive. One things for sure, there is no denying that we have a UFO presence, that much we can say, but a presence is one thing determining what that presence can be, is another.

I am in total agreeance with researchers wearing as many 'hats' as possible and opening as many UFOlogical doors as possible, the truth of the matter is within all these avenues of possibilities an answer must lie somewhere it's just a case of finding it. I am in the fortunate position of being sent many UFO and paranormal books by publishing houses to review and recently I was sent a copy of a book which absolutely blew me away !!! Why ! well because it was so new, and was so shockingly important to the subject of UFOlogy that it just screamed out to be read by UFOlogists and sceptics alike. The book is entitled MILABS, subtitled (Military Mind Control And Alien Abduction) and is written by Dr Helmut Lammer and his wife Marion Lammer. It is my opinion, that this book holds a very big piece of the UFO puzzle and I hope that through this article I can at the very least, share some of the salient points with you. Of course for a more overall view of the book, one must purchase a copy oneself, but take it from me, it will be the best money you will have parted with for some time. Dr Lammer has a Ph.D in geophysics and works at the Austrian Space Research Institute as a planetary scientist. He has published many scientific papers in prestigious scientific journals such as Journal Of Geophysical Research, Geophysical Research Letters, and Planetary and Space Science. Dr Lammer is a member of the European Geophysical Society (EGS) and the New York Academy of Sciences. In his spare time, he writes for numerous UFO magazines and is the Austrian representative for the American society, The Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) and is also an associate member of the Society for Scientific Exploration (SSE). Marion Lammer studies law at the University of Graz, Austria, has a lifetime interest in Fortean phenomena and has helped her husband with his studies in his MILAB research. O.K. let's take a look at what Helmut and Marion Lammer have to say.

MILABS, A STUDY OF UFOLOGICAL IMPORTANCE. THE MILITARY KIDNAPPING OF ALIEN ABDUCTEES.

The main thrust of the Lammer's book is to inform us that 'not all is as it seems' ! We are informed that many UFO abductions are the result of Military personnel, men in business suits, or men in white lab coats each who are abducting individuals either 'to'

(a) To obtain as much information from the abductee as to what Transpired during their abduction i.e., to obtain any 'technology Or advanced information as they possible can which could Potentially be used by their country (America) to advance their Own technology from the 'abducters' OR

(b) The American Government 'agencies' are themselves imprinting false and misleading information into the minds of the unsuspecting public to further the cause/belief that UFO abductions/aliens are a reality, this is to steer the public's belief away from what really is going on, i.e., a new Stealth technology or advanced black budget technology to which they, (the Americans) do not wish the public to learn about, and they are more than happy for this technology to be camouflaged under the guise of 'alien abductions'.

Now, as we progress, both the above categories play an important role in the understanding of the MILAB scenario and it is my hope to paint a presentation of facts which you the reader can judge for yourself. So let us now continue on with what the Lammer's have to say about the above and I ask that you keep an open mind and try and grasp the importance of what this article is all about.

Now, what we have to bear in mind, and what is a proven fact, is that numerous UFO abductees not only report seeing small grey 'beings' during their abduction, but they have also told researchers the world over that they have also been 'interrogated' by what appear to be 'humans' who not only threaten them but implant devices into their head which cause them much distress. They describe being taken to Military Hangers in which strange UFO like craft are housed. For instance, Brenda a Canadian UFO abductee, explains that she was abducted and taken to a Military Hanger where she was met by two 'men' in white coats who interrogated her for a period of time. This proved most distressing to her more so because these men used chloroform to knock her out. The main thing is though, she claimed to have seen advanced disc shaped objects in this 'facility' similar, it is said (by the author) to advanced disc shaped objects that are apparently being developed at Lockheed'' Hellendale underground research facility near Palmdale in southern California.

Another MILAB abductee, Melinda Leslie has also experienced both alien and Military abductions. One of which occurred at an aerospace facility in southern California near Lancaster. Not only did she witness men in Navy uniform during her abduction, whilst she was being examined by small grey 'beings' but she also claims to have seen a strange triangle shaped craft in a large hanger, and also a dark unmarked helicopter. Melinda remembers being forced to sit in a chair where she was forcibly given a strange drink and had a syringe inserted into her arm by a human in a lab coat. She was then asked repeatedly by a red haired Military officer to tell them all about her 'alien' experiences and that he wanted information about the 'aliens' technology. Leah Haley one of America's more noted UFO abductees, also talks about being taken by a helicopter to a Military base where she was interrogated by 'humans' in regards to her 'alien' experiences. She also states that she was given a shot in her arm and asked repeated questions by Military officers to tell them all about the 'aliens' technology.

These are but a few of the many references that are made by the author in regards to individuals being forcibly taken by Military people in order to try and extract some details to better the minimal knowledge of the Military chiefs. We are also told that the husband of the late Dr Karla Turner (a noted UFO researcher) also recalls an abduction in which he too was forcibly taken by Military personnel to an underground facility where he too was drugged and repeatedly asked all about the 'aliens' technology. Although some of these UFO abductions in regards to Military precenses being seen on board strange looking objects have been reported elsewhere, it has only been tentatively as if the authors of previous UFO books really didn't know what to do or make with them. I would probably say that some, if not a lot of other UFO authors, have in point of fact, kept these vital facts away from their readers not knowing whether there were any truth in them or moreover, it may well spoil the thrust of the book they were writing. Thankfully these stories are now surfacing. Karla Turner referred to them numerous times and told many people that we should start to sit up and take notice of these accounts, Dr Lammer states, "The presence of human Military and/or civilian personnel inhabiting the same physical reality as the alien beings exceeds the mindsets of the sceptics and the open minded researchers by several orders of magnitude.

A more truer statement has never been said. Dr Scott Jones believes that it's quite possible that the Military machines interest in UFO abductees may well be due to them (the Military) gaining important ground as to developing brain implants, virtual reality implants, holographic image projection and cloaking devices but more so for genetic research. This all sounds incredible and seems like something out of Star Trek or Deep Space Nine, but the facts are, that more and more UFO abductees are coming forward with stories of not only meeting up with 'aliens' but seeing and being interrogated by their fellow human beings. Of course as things stand, this would all appear to be hidden from the U.S. Congress and may be masked under the secret 'black budget' projects. During the 1980's, a lot of money we are told, was being used for top secret Military projects, the major one being for (SDI) Strategic Defence Initiative. It's not that hard to imagine, that a certain percent of the black budget programme, went towards the procedure of finding, locating, abducting and interrogating helpless UFO abductees to try and elicit from them, what the 'aliens' were up to. Now this all presupposes that we 'have' an alien presence, and this is what makes this book so darned important. The evidence contained within this book, clearly shows that there is indeed, without any shadow of a doubt, an alien presence on this planet who's programme is decidedly targeted towards a genetic programme of sorts. Let us now take a look at some of the other important issues contained within this book.

CONTROLLED EXPERIMENTS ON HUMANS WITHOUT CONSENT, AN INFRINGEMENT OF HUMAN RIGHTS.

The Lammers present the reader with case after case of experimentation by the people we have been led to trust, Military chiefs on not only the people of the United States, but on citizens of Canada and other countries. These experiments from many years ago, were nothing to do with UFOs or the search to understand alien technology, it was to find out various things about what the human individual could endure. Covert operations have been deployed on countless thousands of people for many years, even our own Ministry of Defence has carried out secret radiation experiments on humans during the past 40 years. In America, nerve gas, LSD, and various biological agents were used on people without their permission. We often talk about the atrocities that the German Army committed during the second world war, the experimentation on the Jews both children and adults, filled us with horror, and to think that the people we elected to serve and protect us are still experimenting on our minds and bodies of citizens today should make everyone everywhere stand up and protest from the highest tower. Whilst I appreciate that mankind must learn what biochemical agents can do to someone, to use it on people without their consent is immoral. Dr Lammer tells us that horrific psychological experiments were conducted on American soldiers at Edgewood Arsenal Maryland, eight former Nazi scientists worked at Edgewood for the Americans between 1947 to 1966 developing and testing lethal nerve gas and psycho chemicals on humans. Dr Ewen Cameron led a CIA funded laboratory at McGill University during the 1950's where people were used as guinea pigs for brainwashing experiments. People were given huge amounts of hallucinogens, some were given electro-convulsive therapy, and others were subjected to sensory deprivation. More importantly, Dr Lammer tells us that a panel appointed by the Clinton administration in 1994 to look into these matters, found that four hundred documented Government backed bio-medical experiments involving humans were undertaken between the years of 1944 and 1975.

How much more has gone on that we don't know about ! I'm sure we'll never really know. Mind control victim Claudia Mullen testified before the advisory Committee on Human Radiation Experiments in Washington D.C. during March 1995 where she explained that she was taken by Military people over a course of many years, and subjected against her will, in experiments concerning Chemicals, radiation, drugs, hypnosis, electric shock, sleep deprivation and even sexual abuse ! Another witness, Delora, recalls that he father who was a career Navy Officer, was stationed at an ammunition depot in Shoemaker Arkansas, and during those early years whilst he was stationed there she remembers flashbacks of being with both her parents inside a Military bunker where she saw 'aliens' performing experiments on humans. Delora knew that this bunker housed chemical and biological weapons which may have been an interest to these 'aliens'. She also claims to have seen a number of humans suspended in gas or liquid filled capsules. Delora holds the opinion that those people that were contained inside these capsules were clones and being used for secret bio-warfare or chemical warfare experiments. American UFO researcher Dan Wright who is head of the MUFON abduction Transcription Project has a number of records on file which detail this description of humans being witnessed in large tubes or containers, some of his cases, feature humans who somehow had to 'breathe' the strange liquid that was found inside these containers. This puts me in mind of the famous Scottish A70 UFO Abduction, where one of the two witnesses, Colin Wright, found himself enclosed in a large glass or Perspex container. He was naked and was strapped to a chair when suddenly this glass or Perspex started to frost up. Colin doesn't recall the container being filled with any fluid, but certainly recalls the situation very vividly and with a certain amount of fear.

The Lammer's explain that this concept about 'fluid breathing' more or less began in the mid 1960's when a certain Dr J. Kylstra, a physiologist at the state University of New York at Buffalo, found that salt solutions could be saturated with oxygen at high pressures. He went on to perform experiments with mice and was able to keep them alive for 18 hours, however, his eventual use of this practice did not work when he applied it to humans ! Other researcher's began to take an interest in the work of Dr Kylstra and a number of people began their own experiments (mostly on mice). We learn that the early 1990's proved successful, scientists kept dogs alive for around 2 hours in a perfluorocarbon container. After removal, the dogs were apparently hypoxic but returned to normal after a few days. UFOlogists will of course recall another famous American UFO witness by the name of Betty Andreasson. Betty claimed that she was placed inside a large tube filled with liquid of which she was told was to cushion the large force of the gravity during the UFO's acceleration. The Lammers also go on to explain that during the 1960's a Dr Robert Goodwin experimented with human embryos by keeping them alive in artificial womb like steel containers. However, pressure applied by the scientific community and also members of the public forced him to abandon these experiments. Clearly then this business with UFO abductees reporting tubes and containers which hold some form of liquid and which they have either been placed in there themselves, or have seen others in there, is something which is a major part of the UFO abduction phenomenon. But of course why ! What real purpose does these containers hold ? Is it as was told to Betty Andreasson 'to cushion the G forces of acceleration', or does it hold a more sinister purpose ! Is it really for the benefit of the UFO abductee !! It's frustrating that as we approach the Millennium, we are no further forward in answering these and other questions, than we were when the modern era of UFOlogy first began.

One might say however, that we do have the answers, and those answers are all to do with the genetic interbreeding programme that seems to be part and parcel of the make up of the 'aliens' agenda. They may be modifying the genetic make up of humans for their own purposes, introducing their own DNA to create some kind of hybrid species, a species which will be adaptive in all environments which can stand high pressures, breathe liquid with ease etc. However, and I've said and written about this many times before, why oh why is this abduction procedure 'still occurring' ! Haven't they (the aliens) got enough genetic material by now ! They have been abducting the people of this planet for nigh on 50 years if not more, and here at the close of the century, they are still taking people from their homes and environments and subjecting them to clinical and medical procedures without consent. As a researcher, this angers me as I'm sure it does to most people, but more so because, if there truly is any truth to what these UFO abductees are telling us, i.e., that the Military chiefs of this world know what's going on, and are assisting in this, then this is the biggest deception, this is the biggest lie, and this is the biggest shock. As human beings, we expect those in power to look after us and to think that those we elected to serve us can betray us in this way, well it just beggars belief.

The Lammers present case after case after case, of factual data which informs us that the Governments of this world have not been treating their citizens with any respect, far from it, they are abusing our trust, abducting us for medical procedures which can cause lasting harm if not death, all in the name of science. We quite rightly concern ourselves about the plight of the animal kingdom, it's also about time that we should equally be concerned about the plight of humans as well ! During the Cold war scientists were using mind control on helpless victims by inserting devices up their nostrils in order to control them, a procedure all to reminiscent of alien abductions. In the authors studies, they soon came to realize that there were around 3, 'human' agendas associated with the 'alien abduction' scenario. They found that one group of humans were interested in UFO abductees purely for mind and behaviour projects, sensory deprivation and liquid breathing experiments. Another group were interested in biological and genetic experiments, indeed a number of MILAB abductees, clearly recall seeing other human beings enclosed in tubes filled with liquid, they also tell of seeing genetically altered animals ! All these were witnessed in Military Underground research facilities. A third group the authors explain, are solely interested in the actual alien abduction phenomenon itself, purely for information gathering purposes.

Dark unmarked helicopters, have been a growing trend within the confines of UFOlogy of late. A large number of UFO witnesses (but more so UFO abductees,) claim that their lives have been subjected to harassment by low flying unmarked helicopters that have buzzed their homes morning afternoon and night, and when they complain to the local or national airports, no one can provide them with an answer a to where or who they belong to !!! Debbie Jordan, Budd Hopkins star UFO abductee, claims that her life has been a misery since she had her UFO abduction, for since that time many large dark unmarked helicopters have stalked both her and her family. Debbie was quoted as saying. "Even when I am outside and obviously watching back, it doesn't seem to bother them, they just sit there in mid air about 60 to 90 feet above the ground whirling and watching. They are completely without identification and are always low enough so that I could easily see the pilot if the windshield were clear glass. But the windshield is smoky black, and with a finish that makes it impossible to see who's inside".

What I, as the author of this article finds hard to believe, is that this form of harassment is necessary !! For surely the pilots of these helicopters are drawing much attention to themselves by doing this ! If they are so interested in these unfortunate UFO abductees, then this form of behaviour surely shouldn't happen and could be done in their usual 'covert' way. Of course we can't forget the fact that these black unmarked helicopters, have been seen many times over the pastures in which cattle mutilations have been found, and more recently, dark unmarked helicopters have been witnessed flying above the wheat fields of England where many strange crop circle formations have been found. Clearly then, there is great interest by these shady 'agencies' in the lives of the UFO abductees, and the crop formations in Southern England, not forgetting the obscene and tragic animal mutilations that have been discovered in unusual circumstances with each passing year. In their book, the Lammers present many cases where dark unmarked helicopters have made the lives a misery of many a UFO abductee.

WORKING IN HARMONY !!!!!

Probably the most important aspect and significant if not disturbing part of the Lammers book, is their presentation of facts which clearly show that certain American Government 'agencies' have been working side by side with the 'greys' for a good number of years now. This aspect of UFOlogy, has of course been speculated on by many UFOlogists for a number of years now. And this is why perhaps UFOlogists and the general public at large never obtain a statement of sorts from the American Government admitting what's going on. They 'know' what's going on, 'they' are part of it. The abduction of humans from this planet is part orchestrated by the Military chiefs of this Earth in order to obtain information from these visiting 'intruders' which may further and advance the cause of potential warfare capabilities of those who learn the secrets first of people from other worlds.

The above of course sounds incredibly fanciful and full of speculation, but can there be any real truth in this ! The Lammers again present an incredible amount of information to say that this is so. The MILABS book will clearly change your perception about what UFOlogy is all about, it certainly changed mine. I was sent this book to review, believe you me, it's impossible to review a book of such a proportion in so little words, hence I chose to do a slightly more worded version, and even so, this will not do it justice. At the end of the day, where would UFOlogy be without the sterling work of a number of UFOlogists like the Lammers and the late Karla Turner who are bringing these Military/Alien cases to our attention.

TERRESTRIAL & EXTRATERRESTRIAL IMPLANTS !!

The finding of implants in the bodies of UFO abductees is a well known factor in UFOlogy. Strange small metallic devices some round, some small and slim, have been found in the nasal cavities in abductees, and also other parts of their bodies as well (sometimes even their big toes !!) Why would a sophisticated intelligent race of beings want to track and monitor a person in this way is beyond this writer's comprehension. If they (the aliens !) can ghost into someone's bedroom and abduct someone of an evening, it seems unusual that they would need to know where people are, or do these devices perform some other kind of function ? The Lammers present the reader of the MILABS book with an in-depth look at the implant phenomenon. They tell us that the Military have been implanting electrodes into the bodies of unwitting subjects as early as 50 years ago and some horrific tales can be found in this book. I present the following paragraph (with permission) to illustrate the point.

During the 50's and early 60's, neuro scientist Dr Jose Delgado invented the stimoceiver, an electrode capable of receiving and transmitting electronic signals via FM radio waves. Such a device, implanted in the brain via the sinus cavities, will act as a powerful stimulant when activated by FM radio waves. One can speculate, that the stimoceiver has since been modified to receive stimulation from microwave pulses, and is capable of wielding a great degree of control over the implanted victim's response mechanisms.

We then learn that this implant technology was developed after World War 11 and by now, as we approach the millennium, I'm more than sure that this technology has superseded it's expectations. The Lammers speculate that the Military Intelligence community are or have more than likely been using this technology for secret Government projects, some of the photographic plates contained within this book, clearly show the implants on the X Ray skulls of various individuals. The Lammers uncovered a pre classified 1960's Government document pertaining to a secret project called MKULTRA which clearly showed that the CIA was interested in expanding implant studies onto humans, they speculate, could the various Military Agencies that implant various humans, be using the 'alien' cover story to mask their own clandestine endeavours ? This is entirely feasible and may account for a high percent of abductions the world over. This is not to say, that the actual 'alien' abduction phenomena is not real, it may well be, but we have to consider the fact, that the Military Chiefs would be more than happy to use the 'alien' abduction cover story in order for the public at large to be kept in the dark about their secret and unsavoury actions.

Of course there is another way to look at the implant phenomenon, and that is that the Military Chiefs may be inserting these implant devices, to monitor the 'real' UFO abductees respiration, muscle tension and physiological data. There is no denying the evidence by UFO abductees, when they say that they have witnessed Military personnel, either on board a strange craft, or in an underground cavern whilst they have been 'operated' on by 'beings' which are clearly not human. Admittedly implant technology has it's medical benefits, (for a whole range of reasons) one can safely say that a pacemaker is one of the biggest implants that we have in the human body which serves a very useful purpose, but what we are talking about here is entirely different. We are talking about the implanting of devices (without consent) into the bodies of terrified victims by humans and 'non humans' alike. The one main aspect of the Lammer's book, is the continued reference to the fact that many UFO abductees are taken to underground facilities where they see both humans and 'non humans' alike. They (the UFO abductees) also witness strange disc shaped craft, large dark unmarked helicopters. They are interrogated by Military personnel, sometimes viciously and with mind bending drugs, all in a desired attempt to find out from these poor unfortunate abductees, what the 'aliens' have told them. I found the following paragraph quite illuminating in regards to the overall theme of the Lammer's book.

"Perhaps the Military split the personality of some abductees with known mind control techniques like sensory deprivation, spin programming, flashlights, electric shocks, rape, in order to create 'Manchurian Candidates' for information gathering purposes during alien abduction experiences".

The Lammers then pose 2 interesting questions to the reader.

1. Are MILAB abductees Military programmed 'Manchurian Candidates' who spy for a secret Military task force in alleged 'alien crafts' ? Are they so called 'Trojan Horses' inside 'real' UFOs during an alien abduction experience ? OR

2. Is their alien abduction experience a synthetically programmed screen memory for hiding secret spy or Military missions ?

What we can deduce from all this, is that the Military people are clearly involved and very much concerned about the alien abduction phenomenon as they have been for decades now. The CIA FBI and NSA, have in the past denied their involvement in the UFO study, but thankfully under the Freedom of Information Act passed several years ago now, it was plain to see from the documentation released, that the above agencies were indeed, very much involved with what's going on, and are surely now 'still so' ! In closing this article, I must say that I am deeply concerned about not so much the threat from the 'non humans' in all this, (although that is still a concern) but the threat and deceit from those people of whom we elected to serve and protect us. They are abusing their trust, they are abusing their positions to learn what is going on, but ultimately they have now become a 'big part' themselves in the UFO problem. It seems inconceivable that we have a situation such as this, it's like something you would find in a 1950's B movie or back street American comic shop, but this is 'real', this is 'happening', and it's happening now. I think we should be deeply concerned about what's going on, this is a crime against humanity. But like any crime, we require proof, and this subject is so bizarre that the stories told to us by these unfortunate UFO abductees may not be believed, but slowly we are turning the screw, this monumental book has untold possibilities for the community, no longer are we talking about strange lights in the sky, we are now on the threshold of an alarming twist in the UFO enigma, a twist that is unsavoury and demands action. It's bad enough having to deal with UFO abductions at all, but to have the Military involved (who deny everything) just begs for action to be taken.

Article continues at: http://www.thelosthaven.co.uk/Milabs.html ==== EcoNews Service http://www.ecologynews.com

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Date: Mon, 19-Mar-2001 23:25:38 GMT From: James R. Rose <eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: MC Picket

John Vincent wrote: > Got a call today from a friend that someone was seen out in front of > McMaster University (on the other side of town from Me) picketing with > sign that said something about MC. We went down to find them and join > in, but had a bunch of car trouble on the way, so we never made it. > > JV

Isn't it the truth. Have been experiencing synchronistic task iniciating and task interference for some time. Past couple of weeks has been full of the physical drivers and phrases of intimidation after iniciating a task and following with physical frenzy.

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Date: Mon, 19-Mar-2001 23:31:16 GMT From: James R. Rose <eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com> Subject: Voluntary Muscle-see Begick entry

Ecclesiastes :: The Segregated Fields ::: Page 697, Principles of Psychology, William James(1952) :: Production of Movement :: Effects on the Voluntary Muscles : Every sensorial stimulus not only sends a special discharge into certain particular muscles dependent on the special nature of the stimulus in question--some of these special discharges we have studied in Chapter XI, others we shall examine under the heads of Instinct and emotion--but it inervates the muscles generally. M. Fere has given a very curious experimental proof of this. The strength of contraction of the subject's hand was measured by a self- registering dynamometer. Ordinarily the maximum strength, under simple experimental conditions, remains the same from day to day. But if simultaneously with the contraction the subject recieved a sensorial impression, the contraction was sometimes weakened, but more often increased. This reinforcing effect has recieved the name of 'dynamogeny.' The dynamogenic value of simple 'musical notes' seems to be proportional to their loudness and height. Where the notes are compounded into sad strains, the muscular strength diminishes. If the strains are gay, increased.--The dynamogenic value of "colored lights" varies (page 698) with the color.

In a subject, { The figures are from an hysterical subject, and the differences are greater than normal. M. Fere considers that the unstable nervous system of the hysteric ("ces grenouilles de la psychologie" ) shows the law on a quantitatively exaggerated scale, without altering the qualitive relations. The effect remind us a little of the influence of sensations upon minimal sensations of the orders discovered by 'Urbantschitsch', and reported on page 470 of this volume. ), whose normal strength was expressed by 23, it became 24 when a blue light was thrown on the eyes, 28 for green, 30 for yellow, 35 for orange, and 42 for red. Red is the most exciting color. Among 'tastes,' sweet has the lowest value, next comes salt, then bitter, and finally sour, though, as M. Fere remarks, such sour as acetic acid excites the nerves of "pain" and "smell" as well as of taste. The stimulating effects of tobacco-smoke, alcohol, beef-extract ( which is innutritious ), etc., etc., may be partly due to a dynamogenic action of this sort.--Of "odors," that of musk seems to have a peculiar dynamogenic power. { Shows a graph of small peaks on subject without stimulus, and the higher peaks of stronger ones when under the influence of red rays of light. }

Everyone is familiar with the "patellar reflex," or jerks upwards of the foot which is produced by smartly tapping the tendon below the knee-pan when the leg hangs over the other knee. "Drs. Weir Mitchell and Lombard have founf that when other sensations come in simultaneously with the tap, the jerk is increased."{ Mitchell in (Philadelphia) Medical News ( Feb. 13 and 20, 1886 ); Lombard in American Journal of Psychology ( Oct., 1887 ), } "Heat, cold, pricking, itching, or fardic stimulation of the skin, sometimes strong ""optical impressions,"" music, all have this dynamogenic effect, which also results whenever voluntary movements are set up in other parts of the body, simultaneously with the tapp.

[ Hypnopaedic verbal expressions-Pavlov-Skinner conditioning, Gestalt deceptive stereoimages, electromagnetic stimulation, ears ringing with tone(s) and oscilation(s), as constant sources of stimulation(s)-constant stimuli ] These "dynamogenic" effects, in which one stimulation simply reinforces another already under way, must not be confounded with reflex acts properly so called, in which new activities are originated by the stimulus. All instinctive performances and manifestations of emotion are reflex acts. [ Hence the verbal series repetitions and rotations for conditioning responses and reactions-brainwashing ] But underneath those of which we are conscious there seem to go on continually others smaller in amount, which probably in most persons might be called fluctuations of muscular tone, but which in certain neurotic subjects can be demonstrated ocularly. M. Fere figures some of them in the article to which I have already referred. { Revue phil., p. 572 ff. }

[ Quite the deception as an artificially created forced stimulus of an unpleasant nature of which the subject could do nothing about, for portraying paranoid schitzophrenics and bipolar disorders, of which most of us are experiencing being labeled if we have atempted professional assistance, "Take this medication or we'll lock you away;" while many are committing violent acts as domestic manchurians thereby reinforcing the public's perception toward them. "If you here something often enough you will believe it." Recall that in my own situation my claims of homes and buildings being inlaid in texture and stucco with the Gestalt art. An additional factor to consider in my case was the home I was living in and their uses of these types of arrangements. The window panes were utilized with color outside of the window in the form of carpet (green) laid in my carport, a bar (red covered) outside of the carport window, and carpet (blue) covered particle board spread out in the backyard in sections covering the expanse of the yard. The back fence was aligned with carpet (gray) covered particle board. Is it too much to say that considering all of the information and its relations to my entries that something is afoot? The after-image effects of being cued to stare fixatedly at the inlaid Gestalt art, and the art is done in a technique of smaller to larger increments of images so while staring at the smaller, the larger are imprinted on the retina, and cued to a different background color leaves the retinal after-image effect. ""Ecclesiastes"" for the operation. Recall there was a federal agent murdered in the 70's at about the same time as a newspaper reporter was murdered by car bombing. He left information pertaining to that section of the Bible and "using the youth." Hypnopaedic reinforcements of pseudo affirmations (positive followed by negative, negative followed by positive action-behavior constructs as sequence(s) of series arrangements) are neverending verbal assaults and simultaneous physical assaults, and when allowed sleep mental holography-hallucination conditioning toward these behaviors are injected into the brain as real time experiences; a never ending mechanical choreographed orchestration..... My hours awake at present are over 3100, sleep comes in half hour and one hour spurts. The images are not restricted to sleep alone. Mental images are being utilized as a forced stimulation per "attitude-self-object" sequence rotations and repetitions. "it's your im a ges"u can't stand it" it can get wors er"it can"it's ur arm"arms'we're burn n ya"i's ur leg"legs"we're laf n"ur cra z"ur like Rus el"i's ur mus els"u cant prove nuth n"ur b n made a fool of"we want u ta go"u aw ta--go"kil n"on ly way"ur get n it"ur it"u aw ta go"u did it"so"Im so proud of u"u ca(nt) sta(nd) this"ur this"ur get n this"ur the smart est"kil er"ur er"; the shorthand or CVC arrangements are what term physical frenzy, where heartrate is errattic causing a felt sensation from the blood pressure alternating to the beat of the heart, additionally, contractions release and contract are felt as sensation, contraction holds amount to added pain, and with the heartrate and the contraction combination there is additional pain where the muscles feel as though pulsating, this is also done with my kidneys. There are verbal instructions toward each instance. Mine are consciously heard, how about yours? Although there are instances when not consciously heard included in the repetitions and rotations. My perception of the physical occurring. On another note, the mexicans are re-stuccoing homes in the area (as a result of my posting areas with handouts, and marking the sidewalks where the homes contain the Gestalt inlaid art), as well as businesses they are opening ] Looking back over all these facts, it is hard to doubt the truth of the law of diffusion, even where verification is beyond reach. ""A process set up anywhere in the centres reverberates everywhere, and in some way or other effects the organism throughout, making its activities either greater or less.""[ In the world of psuedo affirmations all positive action(s) are negatively reinforced affirmations inhibiting that action, while all actions positively reinforced actions are negative inciting toward the serial arrangements in algebraic terms.] ""We are brought again to the assimilation which was expressed on a previous page of the nerve-central mass to a good conductor charged with electricity, of which the tension cannot be changed anywhere without changing it everywhere."" Her Schneider has tried to show, by an ingenious and suggestive zoological review, that all "special" movements which highly evolved animals make are differentiated from the two originally simple movements, of "contraction" and "expansion," in which the entire body of simple organisms takes part. "The tendency to 'contract' is the source of all self-protective impulses and reactions which are later developed, including that of flight." "The tendency to expand splits up, on the contrary, into the impulses and instincts of an aggressive kind, feeding, fighting, sexual intercourse, etc." [ progressive irritations and intermittent expansion constantly driving physical sensations ] Schneider's articles are well worth reading, if only for careful observations on animals which they embody. I cite them here as sort of an evolutionary reason to add to the "mechanical" 'a priori' reason why there 'ought' to be diffusive wave which our "a posteriori" instances have shown to exist.

I will now proceed to a detailed study of the more important classes of movement consequent upon cerebro-mental change. They may be enumerated as-- (1) Instinctive or Impulsive Performances; (2) Expressions of Emotions; (3) Voluntary Deeds.

In cases where the feeling is strong the law is too familiar to require proof. Professor Bain many years ago gave the name of the Law of Diffussion to this phenomenon of general discharge, and expressed it thus: "According as an impression is accompanied with Feeling, the aroused currents diffuse themselves over the brain, leading to a general agitation of the moving organs, as well as affecting the viscera." As professor Bain says : Each of us knows in our own experience that a sudden shock [ verbal or physical ] of feeling is accompanied with movements of the body generally, and with other effects. When no emotion is present [ one of the products of the verbal and physical drives, to creat negative emotion for the drives, enlisting sequences and serial arrangements-dictates to behaviors-brainwash; recall that the mental holography and hallucination conditionings are for all intents and purposes the very same as real experiences, vivid dreams forgotten-vivid dreams intermittently revisiting throughout the day, somnambulism, and operant conditioning-hypnopaedia; cueing during waking hours and the mystical account of having had experienced as a forced stimulus ] we are quiescent; a slight feeling is accompanied with slight manifestations; a more intense shock has a more intense outburst. Every pleasure and every pain, and every mode of emotion, has a definate wave of effects, which our observation makes known to us; and we apply the knowledge to infer other men's feelings from outward display. . . . . The organs first and prominently affected, in the diffused wave of nervous influence [ "your nervous"its yourself"ur ex cit n us"its ur spir it"spear it"ur the smart est man on the plan it"its ur head"u can't stand it"ur b n run off"ur n love"u aw ta go"I got ta"u must kil er", any number of variable arrangements utilizing word-nonsense syllable-consonant-vowel-consonant sequences of the alphabet. Also word plays are utilized from similar sounding arrangements "thats what your being"ats wat ur b ing"sti n ya-u'ur crazy"ur cra z"you are"u r!"ur just b n stupid"ur ju b n stu id"ur lips r num n"ur lis r nu min"at's wat ur a fraid of" a's wa ur a fra of"heartrate-body pulsating-burning sensation-headache, or head-neck-tendon contraction hold intense pain, individually and combination, utilize each in its turn in rotations and repetitions, formula for Pavlov and Skinner- conditioning and operant conditioning, and also Hypnopaedia->hypnotism. Pairing thereof to symbols of as paired associates. As is being done as I type the entry, medula pain and heartrate with endless succession of verbal expression assaults and instructions, sweating under a fan and is 50 degrees, a regular for the irregular heartrate rythm, "J ur b n an as ole"go"u bas ard"go"go along with this"ur this"kil this" and there are the segregated conflict and approach constructs spaced in the sequences, some are intermittent closely spaced and some are spread out drives within drives. The variance of electrical stimulation and verbal assault is basically the same, disorientation of muscles-rigidity, "ur clumsy"ur trip n"ur b n run off" for cues of run into, muscles freeze and become uncordinated due to rigid contraction-"ur fru a ed" its ur __"(hed-ed-arm-r ums-nos-knos-ich n u-ya-i n u-ya-I'll show u-ya"i's ur shoulders"ur put n on hell of a sho"ur pu n on l of a sho"ur b n on erd"kil ur sef"ur cra z"on ly way"kil n"its ur tendons"ur on er y"on er e"i's ur on es t" like a scratched record over and over and over,"ur a-gamler"u jus lost it"ich n"scra it"an does it-this" which is a segregated means of iniciating the directives toward kil-forget-ur for get n this, both ends are self serving containments for multiple dictates by paired associates procedure(s) ]

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Date: Mon, 19-Mar-2001 23:33:43 GMT From: James R. Rose <eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com> Subject: Brain Waves

Ecclesiastes :: The Segregated Fields ::: Bugelski, An Introduction to Psychology(1973) :: Brain Waves ::: We can now make some general observations about the brains activity and then proceed to our speculative interpretations of what the brain is doing in the head. About 1929 it was discovered that if electrodes were attached to the scalp of an animal or human, minute changing electrical potentials could be detected. [ see John Ginter-Vacaville Prison-California, located at http://.calweb.com/~welsh/ginter.htm ; also see Aldous Huxley, Brave New World Revisited (1958), Hypnopaedia-Tulfar Prison Camp, located at http://www.psychops.com ] When such potentials are amplified, oscilloscopes or other recording devices show them in the form of waves, the so-called waves-- the next time you have an idea, don't say you "had a brain wave"--you nearly always have brain waves unless you are in a coma or dead. The waves can be described in terms of frequency and amplitude. Different kinds of frequencies may be picked up under different conditions. For example, when you are asleep the waves are slow ( up to 4 per second and rather large ); as you awaken to the day's activities, the brain waves become faster and smaller and a typical waking wave ( resting with eyes closed ) will run off at about 8 to 12 cycles per second. This is the alpha wave; the slow wave mentioned earlier is called the delta wave. Between the alpha and delta waves we have other names ( none of these names mean much, the frequencies are continuous )--bet, and gamma--to describe decreasing frequencies. When an alpha wave is being recorded and the subject opens his eyes, the alpha wave usually disappears and is replaced by waves of high frequency and low amplitude. What the meaning of this disappearance ( "desynchrony" ) is cannot be stated with certainty. When the waves disappear, it is assumed that there is a loss of synchronization of neural firing and that whatever potentials are present are organized in some different fashion. The point is that the disappearance of the waves does not reflect lack of activity in the brain, but does, on the contrary, indicate more specific kind of activity than that involved in resting with "the mind blank." ""Any kind of stimulation is likely to disturb the pattern of brain waves and special kinds of stimulation--for example, a light flickering at about 12 times per second--can iniciate and to some extent control the brain wave pattern; this is called photic driving ( Walter, 1953 ) . [ Think again on the uses of light as a means to control-disturb through the television, incancescent light, and any light source once conditoned, and or, induced-instructed ( the television screen reflects any outward light source back upon the viewing parties additionally to enlarge the effect ); and consider my advocating the use of Gestalt images within images, stereo images to influence and creat predispositions toward and away from particular behavior(s), imaging as a conditioned sensation by direct view and deceptive subliminal manipulation; see Dr. Nick Begick entry and consider again the ramifications; see page 699 use of light-W. James-contraction and expansion of which the entire body takes part making its activity either greater or less; p. 697, the dynamogenic value of "colored lights varies with the color", musical notes seem to be proportional to their loudness and height-sensorial impression; circulation-heartrate altered by sensation and course of thought ]

Our concern here is not so much with the nature of brain waves as with the fact that they exist. They indicate clearly as any evidence might that the brain is alive, that it is active, that it is using energy, and that any additional neural activity iniciated through sensory stimulation must take its chances on getting past the reticular system and finding its place or function in an already active brain. "" If the brain is not ready for such stimulation it either will become disorganized in its operations or it will not accept the new entry."" [ see page 835,William James, Principles of Psychology(1952), The Education of the Will, no other path has a chance of being organized."Motor Circle." Also see "constant stimuli," B.K. Bugelski, An Introduction to Psychology(1973). ] In short, we are insisting that the brain determines whether external energy changes are entitled to the term "stimulus," or merely external energy change.

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Date: Mon, 19-Mar-2001 23:36:17 GMT From: James R. Rose <eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com> Subject: Reticular Formation

Ecclesiastes :: The Segregated Fields ::: Bugelski, An introduction to Psychology(1973) :: The Reticular Formation : Just above the medula ( a bulbous development of the spinal cord near the base of the brain, an area containing many reflex centers which control such activities as breathing and temperature regulation ) is a complex arrangement of neural structures consisting of neurons with connections in all directions with the midbrain, the cortex, and the sensory structures--the "reticular formation" ( French, 1957 ). From the reticular formation pathways lead back and forth to the cortex and subcortical centers so that complex interactions can occur. The reticular formation can activate the cortex and the cortex can activate the reticular formation which can then modify the activity of the cortex and so on and on. Because the anatomical detail of the reticualr formation is so complex its limits are difficult to establish. Because it is not obvious as a solid lump or well defined body, nothing much was known about its function until only recently when we have come to regard it as sort of an ""activation center.""

"If the reticular formation is not recieving impulses and is relatively quiescent, the rest of the brain is quiet too, and the owner of the brain is asleep." "With activity in the reticular formation or "arousal" center, the brain can be wakened and set into action." "The reticular formation is apparently activated by receptor activity." Our dinural patterns of waking and sleeping, of eating at more or less regular periods and consequently "developing other conditions also may have much to do with the amount of activity in the reticular system." "If there is any self-controling mechanism in the brain at all, the closest approximation to one may be the reticular formation." "We can think of it as a govenor of the level of activation in the brain as a whole." The reticular formation may very well determine what sensory inputs are processed to the thalamus and get to the occipital lobe or temperal lobe or other way station.[note: pathways-override by constant stimuli not allowing for any other activity to enter, see William James] "It can determine to some degree whether motor activity will be iniciated and how energetically." "Whether we think of something, and whether one action will lead to another, may be functions of this area of the brain." "Enough has been established, however, to enable us to recognize the reticular system, a lower-brain-level "structure," as a regulator of the activity that goes on in the cortex." "But we should question whether the cortex is necessarily related to higher mental activity or whether, in fact, it merely facilitates such activity going on at lower levels, with perhaps greater elaboration and integration with past experience."

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Date: Mon, 19-Mar-2001 23:42:47 GMT From: James R. Rose <eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com> Subject: Sense Organs-Receptors

Ecclesiastes :: The Segregated Fields ::: Bugelski, An Introduction to Psychology(1973) :: Classification of the Sense Organs : While we are not going to concern ourselves with specialized receptor systems, it is important to note that stimulation has numerous ports of entry into the nervous system. They are briefly discussed below.

Exteroceptors ( distant ). Some forms of energy can effect the organism even though the source of stimulation is far removed. Thus we can see for great distances, that is, reflected light rays from objects at varying distances can enter the eye. Similarly, sound energy can travel for miles from its original source, if, like thunder, it is intense enough, and reaches our ears. Odors from stockyards can travel for several city blocks.. Stimulation from objects at some distance from the body is classified as being recieved by exteroceptors or distance receptors. It might be argued that actual physical contact is made via some medium that is clearly so in the case of audition where air, water, or some other medium is agitated at the locus of the earbdrum, but we might have the concept of a luminiferous ether.

Exteroceptors (contact ). The various skin senses, and here we have to include the taste buds on the tongue, form another 'class' of receptors. Here actual physical contact must occur although this is a rather vague affair in the temperature discrimination which we make in terms of outdoor weather conditions. Touching hot or cold objects is clearly a contact matter but feeling cold in winter time calls for more abstract concept of contact. In order to taste a substance, the material must be dissolved and flow around the taste buds which are somewhat hidden within the papillae on the tongue.

Interoceptors ( organic). The various internal organs are supplied with sensative cells which can iniciate neural impulses under some conditions such as distention by food or gas. Unusual activity in the heart, lungs, intestine, or the esophagel tract iniciates sensory stimulation. Most of these organs are insensitive to stimulation of external origin but are effective sources of impulse from internal pressures and distress conditions, inflammation, etc. Many organs in the viscera appear not to be effective sources of stimulation--we are unable to report activity in the liver, pancreas, and other glands. ""The lungs and the heart, on the other hand, provide a variety of stimulation, including auditory and visual effects."" [ blood pressure from overactive heartrate ( heart enlargement ), sleep deprivation in the form of overstimulation, psychophysical galvnic reactions (stings, itches, engorged muscles-prolonged stimulation accrues as fatigue, causate kidney pulsation and pain, etc., etc. ; shortness of breathing or lack of oxygen intake with overstimulated heartrate to produce irritation and anxiety-panic attack ]

Proprioceptors. The muscles, tendons, and joints are supplied with sense organ structures which react to movements of flexion or relaxation. These stimuli comprise the kinesthetic sense or sense of movement and are especially important in coordinated activities and in balance. Because each muscular contraction and skeletal movement is a rich source of stimulation, movements can be organized in sequences in which one movement leads to another and, "through the process of conditioning" a "habitual sequence" can run off with no visual or other aids. [ this applies also to behavior-predispositions thereof, in the form of repetition, "with a rare perfection," see Hypnotisism by William James(1952) ] These "movement-produced stimuli" plays agreat role in Guthrie's 'systematic psychology' and, indeed, one form or another of such internal stimulation is used by most theoretical speculators to "account for continuous or prolonged action beyond the reflex level." We shall return to, and rely heavily on, movement produced stimulation in our later considerations. We will make use of them as "mediators." [ for chronic fatigue-contraction chains, tight contraction-recontraction, quivering muscle-tendon, see also Hypnopaedia, Hypnotism for all that is entailed for artificially producing-conditioning-creating as a distance effect ]

The Vestibular Senses. In the internal ear, along with the cochlear structures which are essential for auditory stimulation, there are to be found the semicircular canals, the utricle, and the saccule, all of which are connected with the sense of balance and orientation in space of the head and of the body. The semicircular canals contain a liquid which is displaced whenever the head moves and the flow of this liquid past tiny hair structures provides the stimulation which we learn to associate with head position. In the utricle and saccule we have tiny grains ( ear stones or otoliths ) which are embedded in a gelitatinous mass. These tiny structures also stimulate the vestibular branch of the auditory nerve through specialized hair cells and provide us with a sense of "gravity" effectively because of the so-called pull of gravity on the otoliths. Damage to these structures would deprive us of a sense of weight--we would be weightless, as our space children will be when they take off for Mars in a rocket and are deprived of the gravitational influence on the otoliths. [ and conversely, made to feel with an opposite influence ]

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Date: Mon, 19-Mar-2001 23:49:53 GMT From: James R. Rose <eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com> Subject:

Ecclesiastes :: The Segregated Fields ::: Leuba(1940) : The concept of the image as a conditioned sensation has been illustrated by Leuba (1940) in a series of experiments using hypnosis as a technique for isolating the presumed basic processes. A subject is hypnotized (see Hypnotism by William James (1952) and told that "he can only hear a buzzer and the hypnotist's voice," "that he can see nothing, feel nothing except on the back of one hand." The experimenter then sounds the buzzer and at the same time pricks the back of the subject's hand with a needle or a pencil point. The subject is then brought back to a normal condition and while he is otherwise occupied, the buzzer is sounded. Immediately the subject starts to rub the back of his hand which had been pricked earlier. When asked why he does this, he replies that he felt an itch.

[ basic format for controlling and manipulating based on hypnopaedia-hypnosis, can arrange instances by instruction both continuously and by post hypnotic containment field ]

If this experimental analogue is taken as a suggestion about how imagery is iniciated, we might presume that the occurrence of apprpriate stimuli in the external world,

Watson's debonair dismissal of the image by the simple process of denial disturbed many pschologists who could not so easily dismiss their own images. For many years an uneasy atmosphere prevailed in relation to talking about images in psychology. A strictly behavioristic view denied the possibility of observing such private experiences. There was some concession to an undeniable fact in connection with "so called "afterimages" (if you look persistently at some patch of color for about thirty seconds and then look at a neutral surface you will ""see"" an apparent color on this surface which will be the color complement of the original, e.g., if the original was red, the aftereffect will be bluegreen ). Afterimages were grudgingly admitted by the most extreme behaviorist, but other images were treated as some sort of spiritualistic poltergeists and inadmissile in scientific conversation. We have recently become somewhat more sophisticated on this subject and images are again coming into psychological conversations. But now it is held that the image is no different in origin and nature from the original kind of reaction except for whatever support the actual stimulation might provide. ""If by any means the neural activity involved in seeing your mother, for example, can be iniciated without mama's actually being present, then you will be likely to report that you can see your mother, perhaps a little vaguely, but to some degree.""

Such neural activity can be aroused, it is argued, through the arousal of other neural activity which has been associated with that which occurred at the original stimulation. To use some technical jargon, the image is a "conditioned" neural reaction. If one desired to speak of the basic neural reaction involved in the original stimulation as a "sensation," then an image would be a "conditioned sensation." [ see Hypnotism by William James (1952): Hallucianation ]

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Date: Tue, 20-Mar-2001 00:03:44 GMT From: James R. Rose <eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com> Subject: Sense Organs-Receptors

sources of stimulation--we are unable to report activity in the liver, pancreas, and other glands. ""The lungs and the heart, on the other hand, provide a variety of stimulation, including auditory and visual effects."" [ blood pressure from overactive heartrate ( heart enlargement ), sleep deprivation in the form of overstimulation, psychophysical galvnic reactions (stings, itches, engorged muscles-prolonged stimulation accrues as fatigue, causate kidney pulsation and pain, etc., etc. ; shortness of breathing or lack of oxygen intake with overstimulated heartrate to produce irritation and anxiety-panic attack ]

and in balance. Because each muscular contraction and skeletal movement is a rich source of stimulation, movements can be organized in sequences

in which one movement leads to another and, "through the process of conditioning" a "habitual sequence" can run off with no visual or other aids. [ this applies also to behavior-predispositions thereof, in the form of repetition, "with a rare perfection," see Hypnotisism by William

James(1952) ] These "movement-produced stimuli" plays agreat role in Guthrie's 'systematic psychology' and, indeed, one form or another of such internal stimulation is used by most theoretical speculators to "account for continuous or prolonged action beyond the reflex level." We

shall return to, and rely heavily on, movement produced stimulation in our later considerations. We will make use of them as "mediators." [ for chronic fatigue-contraction chains, tight contraction-recontraction,

quivering muscle-tendon, see also Hypnopaedia, Hypnotism for all that is

entailed for artificially producing-conditioning-creating as a distance effect ]

to associate with head position. In the utricle and saccule we have tiny

grains ( ear stones or otoliths ) which are embedded in a gelitatinous mass. These tiny structures also stimulate the vestibular branch of the auditory nerve through specialized hair cells and provide us with a sense of "gravity" effectively because of the so-called pull of gravity on the otoliths. Damage to these structures would deprive us of a sense of weight--we would be weightless, as our space children will be when they take off for Mars in a rocket and are deprived of the gravitational

influence on the otoliths. [ and conversely, made to feel with an opposite influence ]

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Date: Tue, 20-Mar-2001 00:34:54 GMT From: James R. Rose <eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com> Subject: Ideao Motor Actions

Ecclesiastes :: The Segregated Fields ::: Ideo-Motor Action-Will, William James, ( page 792 ), We know what it is to get out of bed on a cold morning in a room without a fire, and how the very vital principle within us protests against the ordeal. Probably most persons have lain on certain mornings for an hour at a time unable to brace themselves to the resolve. We think how late we shall be, how the duties of the day will suffer; we say, "I 'must' get up, this is ignominious," etc.; but still the warm couch feels too delicious, the cold outside too cruel, and resolution faints away postpones itself again and again just as it seemed on the verge of bursting the resistance and passing over into the decisive act. [ this is a layout for the hypnopaedic hypothetical constructs-linguistic fictions-story lines-scenarios-characterizations pertaining to the hypnotic control over sensation as pain and pleasure to which are utilized to influence-push and or inhibit motor actions-mental to physical;-vivid dreams-mental holography-hallucination conditioning; insert behavior(s) and predispositions to or away from action;-scripts ] If I may generalize my own experience, we more often than not get up without any struggle or decision at all. We suddenly find that we have got up. A fortunate lapse of consciousness occurs; we forget the warmth and the cold; we fall into some revery connected with the day's life, in the course of which the 'idea' flashes across us, "Hello, I 'must' lay her no longer!'--an idea which at that lucky instant awakens no contradictory or paralyzing suggestions, and "consequently produces immediately its appropriate motor effects." It was our accute consciousness of both the warmth and the cold during the period of struggle, which paralyzed our activity then kept our 'idea' of rising in the condition of 'wish' and not 'will.' The moment these inhibitory 'ideas' ceased, the original 'idea' exerted its effects. [ the artificial series arrangements as constant substitute stimuli, repetitions and rotations toward specified behaviors-actions ] This case seems to me to contain in miniature form the data for an entire psychology of volition. It was in fact through meditating on the phenomenon in my own person that I first became convinced of the truth of the doctrine which these pages represent, and which I need here illustrate by no farther examples.{ Professor A. Bain (The Senses and the Intellect, pp. 336-48) and Dr. W. B. Carpenter (Mental Physiology, chapter VI) give examples in abundance. }

The reason why that doctrine is not the self-evident truth is that we have so many 'ideas' which 'do not' result in action. But it will be seen that in every such case, without exception, that is because other 'ideas' simultaneously present rob them of their 'impulsive' power. But even here, and when a movement is inhibited from 'completely' taking place by contrary 'ideas,' it will 'incipiently' take place. To quote Lotze once more :

The spectator accompanies the throwing of a billiard-ball, or the thrust of the swordsman, with the slight movements of his arm; the untaught narrator tells his story with many gesticulations; the reader while absorbed in the perusal of a battle-scene feels a slight tension run through his muscular system, 'keeping time as it were with the actions' he is reading of. "These results become the more marked the more we are absorbed in thinking of the movements which suggest them;"[hypnopaedia] they grow fainter exactly in proportion as a complex consciousness, under the dominion of a crowd of other representations, withstands the passing over of mental contemplation into outward action.

The "willing game," the exhibitions of so called "mind reading," or more properly muscle-reading, which have lately grown so fashionable, are based on this "incipient obedience of muscular contraction to idea,' even when the deliberate intention is that no contraction shall occur." { For a full account by an expert, of the "willing game," see Mr. Stuart Cumberland's article, "A Thought-reader's Experiences," in the Nineteenth Century, XX, p. 867. M. Gley has given a good example of ideo-motor action in the Bulletins de la societe de psychologie physiologique for 1889. Tell a person to think intently of a certain name, and saying that you will then force her to write it, let her hold a pencil, and do yourself hold her hand. She will then probably trace the name involuntarily, believing that you are forcing her to do it. } [ouji board]

"We may then lay it down for certain that every representation of a movement awakens in some degree the actual movement which is its object; and awakens it in a maximum degree whenever it is not kept from so doing by an antagonistic representation present simultaneously to the mind."

""All Is Vanity""

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Date: Tue, 20-Mar-2001 04:21:13 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: Caught Red Handed

This evening I was roused from watching TV at about 10:45PM, by some noise out front of my house. I quickly ran to the upstairs washroom the is at the front of the house as well. I quietly opened the window and peered outside just in time to see an individual closing the hood of my truck.

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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:38:38 -0700 From: "chuck" <xfiles@uswest.net> Cc: mc@topica.com Subject: Re: [MC] Caught Red Handed

They use to be under the hood of my truck constantly with little regard to me observing them. When I would call the Glendale City police about this they would come out and talk to me but they always refused to file a report or even open the hood of my truck. These events were conducted by a drug cartel know as the Dirty Dozen who was ran by the DEA under the CIA I was never able to fully understand what they were doing under my hood. They did alter my CB radio to transmit all of the time but other then that I have no idea of what they were doing under my hood. The DEA during that period of time monitored me through the button in my pants which were levies which transmitted in code at 724.56 MHz. The DEA would gas me anytime the Dirty Dozen was working on my truck. They used a arm with a gas bottle on it that extended to the 2nd floor window of my home and plugged into the vent in my window frame. After gassing me they would come in and interrogate me and even remove me for photos to discredit me. Some times taking me for up to three days at a time. This went on for about 14 years as I called the police constantly about what was happening. When the FBI started to monitor me and my wife this stopped and allowed me to start to feed the FBI information on what was happening. After the DEA found out what was happening and that the FBI understood and believed what was happening then the DEA came back and injected me with the devices they now torture me with. Wilkey was the name of the DEA agent responsible and he worked for the DEA agent in charge of Arizona named Wood who my wife was setting up orgies of girls for. Wood worked for George Bush and at that time in 1991 ran a large percent of the drugs in America. The CIA official figure was 35 % but they were skimming off 2 % making the real figure 37 %. Chuck

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Interesting Audio circuits By thefbiisthecatcherintherye@hotmail.com

Mind control on TV By west@sonic.net

FW: [isml] Future soldiers could get enhanced minds By west@sonic.net

REAL UFO/ETs & MIND CONTROL By ecotoday@aol.com

Los Angeles MC Conference April 28 By cpps@erols.com

"Repression Study Backs Freud" (Washington Post, 2/19/01) By cloudrider@aol.com

Research links Schizophrenia and Alzheimers?... (London; 3/15/01) By cloudrider@aol.com

Continuing Saga By eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com

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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:49:15 -0000 From: "Catcher of The Catcher in the Rye" <thefbiisthecatcherintherye@hotmail.com> Subject: Interesting Audio circuits

Interesting Audio circuits can be found at :

http://www.mitedu.freeserve.co.uk/

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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 04:52:44 -0800 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> Subject: Mind control on TV

Ed [e.maatkamp@hccnet.nl] from the Netherlands, a new list member, points out that the Pretender Series on TV presents a Monarch mind control scenario.

"In one episode there was an explosion in a sublevel of the programming center, and you could see a damaged copy of the Wizard Of Oz book lying on the floor. That was the thing that made it 100% sure that these guys know about the Monarch program."

Watch for a new Pretender Movie on April 9th from TNT, he advises.

(quoted with permission)

By the way, I've noticed a curious TV commercial on CNN or Fox news (can't remember the advertiser) that ends in a Wizard of Oz scene. One of the quick flashes shows a school bus with a sign, Monarch School, and scenes of rural south and baseball (Jackie Robinson?). Has anyone else seen that?

There's another curious commercial from Enron (http://www.enron.com ), the Houston energy company, with a robot-tin man stumbling over a bridge ending with a metallic voice saying, "Why...why?" (They're running a whole series of these hypnotic "why" commercials.

"One of the biggest beneficiaries of the California power crisis is a Texas energy conglomerate that more than any other single company has helped bankroll President Bush's political career." http://seattlep-i.nwsource.com/business/enrn25.shtml

See Mind Control Slavery and the New World Order, http://www.nexusmagazine.com/MindControlNWO.html

Connect the dots ....

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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 12:15:05 -0800 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> Subject: FW: [isml] Future soldiers could get enhanced minds

Forwarded

-----Original Message----- From: DS2000 [mailto:ds2000@mediaone.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 1:32 PM To: isml Subject: [isml] Future soldiers could get enhanced minds

>From UPI, http://www.vny.com/cf/news/upidetail.cfm?QID=169532 - Future soldiers could get enhanced minds Monday, 19 March 2001 21:21 (ET)

Future soldiers could get enhanced minds

WASHINGTON, March 19 (UPI) -- Researchers hope to use advances in computers, communications and neuroscience to medically enhance the mental acuity of future soldiers, while connecting their body and minds to smarter machines.

"Military planners are looking to science to find better ways to exploit human perception and memory," said Dr. Dennis McBride, a former naval officer and a professor in the department of psychology and engineering at the University of Central Florida in Orlando.

"Thanks in part to MRIs we can actually see mental processes, or correlates of mental processes," McBride said. "That will one day help us to find ways, for example, to help information in the human brain move more quickly from short-term store to long-term store."

McBride said scientists might be able to boost mental awareness, regulate mood, control anxieties and more, using custom-tailored medicines whose effect and dosage are based on genetic information and delivered by novel methods made possible through nanotechnology. Pharmaceutical companies are leading the way in developing drugs to those ends, but the most pressing challenge is avoiding side effects, he said.

One key to augmenting the thinking of tomorrow's soldiers is learning more about how emotion affects decision-making, specifically learning how emotional attachments and highly stressful situations effect the brain's ability to retrieve information.

McBride said the Navy has sponsored a research program, called tactical decision-making under stress, that has lead to an important understanding of the co-relationship between emotion and cognition. But real advances will occur when tomorrow's soldiers, perhaps already biologically enhanced through drugs, are seamlessly integrated with small, powerful computers.

"It will likely be possible that the future soldier, for instance, will wear eyewear that allows him to see a person and instantaneously be presented with a complete dossier on who that person is," McBride said.

He also described a video chip that might one day record a soldier's sensory experiences and perceptions and download it for access by other soldiers.

"We have developed drugs that have proven to enhance mental acuity in animals, and we are very optimistic that they can be tailored for human use," said Dr. Dan Alkon, formerly of the National Institutes of Health and now scientific director of the Blanchette Rockefeller Neurosciences Institute, co-sponsored by Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore and West Virginia University in Morgantown.

"We have extracted mathematical principles to find and map neurological systems, then developed drugs that enhance those systems. From the perspective of warfighting, this is a great wave of the future."

But many social and ethical considerations exist, as demonstrated by a publication entitled "Out of the Box and Into the Future," released by the Potomac Institute for Policy Studies in Washington, D.C.

The publication cites a paper that highlights these worries: "Our understanding of all human social arrangements is based, ultimately, on an understanding of human nature. If that nature becomes subject to significant alteration through human artifice, then all such arrangements are thrown into doubt. Can humanity trust itself with such capabilities? Should it? How can we know before the fact?"

(Reported by Technology Writer Kelly Hearn in Washington)

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Date: Tue, 20-Mar-2001 20:15:17 GMT From: <ecotoday@aol.com> Cc: ewar@topica.com

Subject: REAL UFO/ETs & MIND CONTROL

To EWAR & MC-L members - In the several years that I have been a member of the EWAR/MC list, the list moderator has positionally attacked any view that UFOs/ETs are real, and might be other than MK-ULTRA or other mind control phenomena.

In fact, the moderator's position that all UFO/ETs are mind control is curiously identical to the goal of MILAB mind control disinformation, eg. to create the impression that all UFO/ET experiences are mind control-generated.

In fact the Best Available Evidence shows that BOTH are true. Some UFO/abduction experiences are the product of mind control - MILAB (military abduction) cases are an example of this. There is also a body of UFO/ET cases that are not mind control generated, but that suggest UFOs/ET are real phenomena.

The moderator has challenged any list member to come forward with evidence to show that UFOs are real and might indeed have a separate, perhaps extraterrestrial or ultradimensional origin.

We enter BEST AVAILABLE EVIDENCE onto the EWAR/MC lists now. At the URL below, you will find the Case Histories of the Best available Evidence documents, produced in the mid-1990s for presentation to scientific, governmental and social leaders worldwide.

http://www.isso.org/inbox/ubd/table.htm#case

In May, 2001, the testimony of myself and 90 high-level witnesses to UFO/ET reality will be presented at the National Press Club, Washington, DC. Preceding the press events will be private briefings for US congresspeople, congressional staff, space activists, social activist organizations, environmental organizations, etc.

This effort is at securing an extra-official disclosure where the USA military-intelligence apparatus has chosen to continue 50 years of coverup.

Alfred Lambremont Webre, JD, MEd Vancouver, BC

BEST AVAILABLE EVIDENCE CASE HISTORIES http://www.isso.org/inbox/ubd/table.htm#case

From OVERVIEW: Best Available Evidence (See URL above) ===== "The great conflict between official positions and trustworthy observations constitutes the mystery of Unidentified Flying Objects. A possible solution to this mystery is the suggestion that the official position is based on an elaborate cover-up. If it is a cover-up, what then is being protected, and by whom?

The answers to these questions generally focus on the issue of national security as well as fear of the public reaction to an official disclosure of UFO reality and its extraterrestrial origin. The question of extraterrestrial intention and the frightening aspects of the alleged abduction phenomena could be extremely disturbing. However, many researchers believe that it is the science and technology behind the national security veil which lies at the heart of the secrecy, and that:

-fallen discs are being reverse engineered, repaired and/or copied, and being tested;

-the technology is so advanced that we can barely imagine the science behind it (which could be based on a fundamentally different understanding of gravity and electromagnetic fields);

-whichever nation masters this extraordinary technology will certainly be the most powerful nation on earth;

-in the opinion of those in control, the guarding of this technology for defense purposes, far outweighs its potential value for other purposes - i.e. a non-polluting, cost efficient solution to our present energy and environmental crisis. _______________________________________

FOOTNOTES

2. Memo from Lt. Gen. Nathan Twining, Commanding General of the Air Materiel Command, Wright Field, to Gen. Spaatz, Commanding General of the U.S. Army Air Forces, September 23, 1947.

3. Menkello, F.V., "Quantitative Aspects of Mirages," USAF Environmental Technical Applications Center, 1969.

4. Steiger Brad, ed. Project Blue Book, Ballantine Books, 1976.

5. GEPAN, Note Technique No. 16, Enquête 81/01, Analyse d'une Trace, Toulouse, March 1, 1983. (English translation published in the MUFON UFO Journal, March 1984.)

6. Air Force Base Intelligence Report, "Flying Discs," AFBIR-CO, July 30, 1947.

7. Twining, ibid.

8. Draft Intelligence Collections Memorandum issued by Brig. Gen. George Shulgen, Chief of the Air Intelligence Requirements Division of the Office of the Assistant Chief of Staff of the U.S. Air Force, October 28, 1947.

9. U.S. Air Intelligence Report #100-203-79, "Analysis of Flying Objects in the U.S.," December 10, 1948.

10. Air Force Project Blue Book, "Special Report No. 14 (Analysis of Reports of Unidentified Aerial Objects)," May 5, 1955.

11. Gillmor, Daniel S., ed., Scientific Study of Unidentified Flying Objects, New York Times Books, 1969.

12. Bolender, Brig. Gen. C.H., USAF, Memo re Project Blue Book, October 20, 1969."

===== EcoNews Service http://www.ecologynews.com Vancouver, BC posted by Alfred Webre

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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 01:46:27 -0500 From: Carole Price <cpps@erols.com> Subject: Los Angeles MC Conference April 28

Mary Ann Stratton asked me to post this: There will be an all-day conference in L.A. on 4/28. Speakers will be Walter Bowart (Operation Mind Control) and Albert Taylor. Taylor is a former NASA engineer and is the author of Soul Traveller and will soon have a new book out. The cost is $25 before April 15. It will be held at Patriotic Hall. Mary Ann can be reached at 909 883-7696.

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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:59:32 EST From: CloudRider@aol.com Subject: "Repression Study Backs Freud" (Washington Post, 2/19/01)

Verbatim quote, in full:

From "The Washington Post," Monday, March 19, 2001 (Page A-7; Science Notes)

Cross-reference: "Nature," March 15, 2001 (British scientific journal.)

REPRESSION STUDY BACKS FREUD

One of the most controversial areas of psychology is whether it's really possible to repress memories. Some psychologists argue that it is, and that children often repress memories of physical or sexual abuse. Researchers have found new evidence supporting the idea, which was first put forth by Freud.

Michael C. Anderson and Collin Green of the University of Oregon in Eugene asked 32 college students to learn a list of pairs of unrelated words, such as "ordeal" and "roach." The students were presented with one of the words, then were asked to say the paired word or avoid thinking about it.

The subjects could recall more easily the paired word that they were asked to remember than the one they were asked not to think about.

"These findings thus support a supression mechanism that pushes unwanted memories out of awareness, as posited by Freud," the researchers wrote in the March 15 issue of Nature.

In an article accompanying the research, Martin A. Conway of the University of Bristol in England said the findings lend "support to Freud's original definition of repression; it unambiguously shows the existence of consciously initiated ... inhibition of memory.

"Even in the innocuous setting of the laboratory, and with stimuli as trivial as randomly paired words, powerful inhibition can be evoked. How much stronger must this inhibition be for objects central to our thoughts and emotions?" Conway wrote.

(End quote: Washington Post 3/19/01; Page A-7)

- - - - +

CloudRider note: This topic is central to a range of issues, from "UFO abductions" to alleged (perceived) "mind control" victimizations, to "SRA" (satanic ritual abuse) and child sexual abuse & incest; as well as long-standing "Project Monarch" allegations of hypno-spy and hypno-sex ring activities (in and out of government, U. S. and "others"), some of which overlap the "UFO" and "alien abduction" publicity threads.

As such, the report in "Nature" and the bibliographical citations should be of more than passing interest to serious researchers into these phenomena, as broadly defined. "True Believers" will no doubt be unaffected, but nevertheless the dialogue will be altered by this research and the provocative conclusions its authors draw.

This material may also be of interest to therapists exploring "past life regression" and other so-called New Age paradigms, "paranormal" activity and transpersonal psychology, as anytime we uncover more "brain-mind" mysteries, everything past is altered and everything we believed we knew must be suspect. THAT IS SCIENCE!

- - - - + We suggest this be posted with attribution to "The Washington Post" and "Nature," so a wider discussion of these implications may be stimulated and conveyed online. It will, of course, be helpful to revisit some of the past "scientific debunking," as well as to scrutinize the debunkers of notoriety (having suspected past ties with "MK ULTRA" and other programs which these currently high-profile "academics" have spent the balances of their lifetimes "covering up," to the detriment of their victims.

A little research goes a long way toward "outing" scientists who've done bad stuff! It is important not to overstate or "overblow" this information, but it really ought to be considered. We'll be following the "content analysis" of how the debate proceeds, so any copies of specific dialogue about this topic and its impacts will be appreciated.

Thanks!

And "Follow the money!"

DF <cloudrider@aol.com>

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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 21:38:49 EST From: CloudRider@aol.com Subject: Research links Schizophrenia and Alzheimers?... (London; 3/15/01)

Wasn't very long ago that we were reading about researchers who believed that Schizophrenia had a viral etiology, (i.e., might be caused by a virus, opening up all sorts of possibilities for those looking into alleged "induced" schizophrenia, as its symptoms parallel those of some "UFO" or "alien contact" experiences and "psi."

As for Alzheimer's, there is steady info-flow from the "fringes" of the R & D folks, at least news-media wise, about Alzheimer's having at least some of its "triggers" in environmental insults, most notably aluminum compounds and organic halocarbon compounds, chlorinated products and other long-chain organic molecules such as might be found in some herbicides and pesticides, (many discontinued today). It's worth a look, as many topics (including alleged "mind control" or "alien abduction" perceptions among a rather significant sample) have brain-mind links or etiologies.

DF <cloudrider@aol.com>

From AOL Newswire:

New Research From the Institute of Psychiatry Links Schizophrenia and Alzheimer's Disease

LONDON, March 13 /PRNewswire/ -- Research from the Institute of Psychiatry, London, that offers a radical new approach to treating schizophrenia has received a substantial grant from the Stanley Foundation, a major mental health charity based in the United States. The new study developed by Dr. Tonmoy Sharma and his team involves giving an Alzheimer's drug for one year to people with schizophrenia.

Schizophrenia is best known for its so-called positive symptoms such as hallucinations or delusions. But cognitive difficulties - such as problems with memory, attention and decision making - are thought to be core and enduring features of schizophrenia. It is these cognitive problems that prevent many people with the condition from being independent, making friends or finding a job.

Older drug therapies target the positive symptoms of schizophrenia but do not help the cognitive problems. In fact, their associated side-effects mean that patients often have to take anticholinergic drugs as well, which lead to more cognitive problems. While newer antipsychotics cause fewer side effects and can sometimes improve cognition, up until now, cognitive problems in schizophrenia have not been a specific target for drug therapy.

In this study, 40 people with schizophrenia taking newer antipsychotic medication will also be given either placebo or rivastigmine, a drug that has been shown to conserve cognition in Alzheimer's disease. Researchers will test participants' memory, attention and planning skills during the trial to detect any cognitive improvements. They will also perform functional magnetic resonance imaging to see whether there are changes in the way the brain works.

Dr. Sharma was delighted to hear of the Stanley Foundation's decision: 'Cognitive problems are such a major part of schizophrenia that it is time they became a focus of treatment. This grant is an indication that the mental health community is beginning to take cognitive problems in schizophrenia more seriously. We are grateful to the Stanley Foundation for recognising the potential of this innovative research project.'

Notes:

The Institute of Psychiatry is based at the Maudsley Hospital and is part of King's College London.

For further information on the study contact visit our website on: www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/scp .

For more information on Alzheimer's disease and schizophrenia visit, www.emental-health.com .

For further information on the Stanley Foundation visit; www.stanleyresearch.org .

To find out more about Brain Awareness week visit, www.edab.net

SOURCE Institute of Psychiatry

CO: Institute of Psychiatry

ST: England

IN: MTC

SU:

03/13/2001 07:47 EST http://www.prnewswire.com

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Date: Wed, 21-Mar-2001 03:57:06 GMT From: James R. Rose <eccliesiastes2000@yahoo.com> Subject: Continuing Saga

Physical frenzy as type entry. Bought computer and unable to link to internet. Phone company techs baffled. Overcharge for phone,$200. Phone number listed as Chandler Court and recieve phone calls evry morning beginning at 8 a.m. Walk to library, leg cramps each time, have to stop as walk. Aches, pains, rigid muscle and tendons, ears ringing noisily, heart rate unreal, burning sensations, bowel movements,urine movements, task iniciate-task interference, endless verbal sequences and repetitions to "kill" paired with "go" paired to "u", "your", etc.. quivering-shaking as write,skin red and flushed. People see and notice who have spoken with. Regular. Its ur mouth"u cant stand it"ur it"kil it" and the same with other nonsense syllables and CVCs. Forget routines endless, one irritant to the next, "go"go off"u de ser this"kill us all"ur all of us" (word-sequence arrangements as isolation-encapsulation contaiment field) endless "ur queer"quer ya"ur queer"quer ya" as type "its ur driv er"kil er"u did it"its us"_ _" (identifier(s)) Wake now 3148, sleep-stupor sleep is 348. Brady and Liddell. Half hour to one hour wake up when allowed to sleep. Hallucination action-reaction conditioning. Ears and head extensive pain as write. Throat muscle begin pain this morning and continues. "Kil"yeah yeah yeah" Later! ""All Is Vanity""

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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:30:53 -0500 From: "Allen L. Barker" <alb@datafilter.com> Subject: Re: [MC] List replies

Wes Thomas wrote: > > > An obvious troll > > What do you mean by "troll"? The usage on the Net I'm familiar with refers > to list spying.

from http://www.webster.com

Main Entry: 1 troll Pronunciation: 'trOl Function: verb Etymology: Middle English Date: 15th century transitive senses 1 : to cause to move round and round : ROLL 2 a : to sing the parts of (as a round or catch) in succession b : to sing loudly c : to celebrate in song 3 a : to fish for by trolling b : to fish by trolling in <troll lakes> c : to pull through the water in trolling <troll a lure> intransitive senses 1 : to move around : RAMBLE 2 : to fish by trailing a lure or baited hook from a moving boat 3 : to sing or play in a jovial manner 4 : to speak rapidly - troll·er noun

Main Entry: 2 troll Function: noun Date: 1869 : a lure or a line with its lure and hook used in trolling

A "troll" in the newsgroups or in a mailing list is a metaphor to the fishing usage above. It is a posting or article designed to draw responses, usually by pushing certain well-known "hot buttons" which people will almost always reply to. Often cross-posted to many inappropriate groups.

-- Allen L. Barker MC:TT&P --> http://www.datafilter.com/mc

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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:27:46 -0700 From: <shepard@yucca.net> Subject: Sattlite Computer Generated Holographic Projections:

Grettings: Being a mind controlled victim must be like prospecting. Once the ore has been located. You be come rich. I filed criminal charges today against the San Bernadino Sheriff's Headquarters with Sheriff Pin Rod.Charges for Violation of Civil Rights And Obstruction of ustice FederalStatues Tille 28 Section 453 And Title 42 Section 1983 1985 1986 And Notice of Seditious Conspiracy Under Title 18, Section 2384I must of hit pay dirt. I am here to let every body know that I am seeing computer generated sattilite holographic projectons. Artifical Intelligence beaming its Hollowen Geio SpOoK images. They are so thick that I can actually feel their harassment as they stick ungodly images in my face and other parts of the body. This must be Satanic rituals at work. The voices are so loud with words of we are going to kill you. Hmmmmm Sounds like a verbal threat. I never could fiqure out which was the worst. Them micro-waving me to death or their Synthetic Telepathy Bull Shit. Globaltwa.com seem to be a real threat to their tecknology. Any way, Not only have I hit pay dirt with the sheriff's headquarters. I now have footage on my cam recorder of their Satanic projections. BoO ! I see you.

shepard,

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Hearing for experiment bill in Massachusetts By 1927@glasscity.net

re: 'priests abuse of nuns' report By smartnews@aol.com

More Stuff By frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca

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Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:15:39 -0800 From: Pat Mougey <1927@glasscity.net> CC: 1927@glasscity.net Subject: Hearing for experiment bill in Massachusetts

Since human beings are vertibrates they should be protected by this law:......

This is from Roy Bercaw, please do not reply to me.... _Pat Mougey _____________________________________________________________

Subject: hearing on experiment bill Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:49:43 -0500 From: "Roy Bercaw" <roybercaw@hotmail.com> To: roybercaw@hotmail.com

A hearing before the Massachusetts General Court, Committee on Education, Arts and Humanities will be held for a petition of Roy Bercaw, H 591, (text below) to regulate experiments on vertibrates and the practice of vivisection and the dissection of animals in certain medical and educational institutions in the Commonwealth of Massachsuetts. Since human beings are vertibrates they should be protected by this law. Current public policy at state and federal levels is to protect animals but not humans from medical research abuses.

Date: March 20, 2001 Time: 1:00 PM Place: Room B-2 The State House Park Street and Beacon Street Beacon Hill Boston MA 02133

If you can attend you are invited to testify; else you can send written comments to the Committee at:

Rep. Peter J. Larkin, Chairman Education, Arts and Humanities Committee The State House, Room 43 Boston MA 02133 617-722-2030

The current statute appears below with Roy Bercaw's proposed amendment identified by; ***(deleted words)*** ***[added words]***

GENERAL LAWS OF MASSACHUSETTS

PART IV. CRIMES, PUNISHMENTS AND PROCEEDINGS IN CRIMINAL CASES.

TITLE I.

CRIMES AND PUNISHMENTS.

CHAPTER 272. CRIMES AGAINST CHASTITY, MORALITY, DECENCY AND GOOD ORDER.

Chapter 272: Section 80G. Experiments on vertebrates; vivisection, dissection of animals; care.

Section 80G. No school principal, administrator or teacher ***[or [professors, researchers, institutions, medical professionals, HMO's, licensed professionals, medical associations, or educational institutions]*** shall allow any live vertebrate to be used in any elementary or high school ***[, college or any institution or facility private or public, whether or not]*** under state control or supported wholly or partly by public money of the state as part of a scientific experiment or for any other purpose in which said vertebrates are experimentally medicated or drugged in a manner to cause painful reactions or to induce painful or lethal pathological conditions, or in which said vertebrates are injured through any other type of treatment, experiment or procedure including but not limited to anesthetization or electric shock, ***[or any acoustic devices, devices which emit sounds or any form of energy, or devices which emit electromagnetic radiation]*** or where the normal health of said animal is interfered with or where pain or distress ***[or vertigo or disorientation]*** is caused.

No person shall, in the presence of a pupil in any elementary or high school under state control or supported wholly or partly by public money of the state, practice vivisection, or exhibit a vivisected animal. Dissection of dead animals or any portions thereof in such schools shall be confined to the class room and to the presence of pupils engaged in the study to be promoted thereby, and shall in no case be for the purpose of exhibition.

Live animals used as class pets or for purposes not prohibited in paragraphs one and two hereof in such schools shall be housed or cared for in a safe and humane manner. Said animals shall not remain in school over periods when such schools are not in session, unless adequate care is provided at all times.

The provisions of the preceding three paragraphs shall also apply to any activity associated with or sponsored by the school.

Whoever violates the provisions of this section shall be punished by a fine of not more than ***(one hundred dollars)*** ***[one hundred thousand dollars and or imprisonment for not less than five years nor more than 20 years in a jail or house of correction or both.]***

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Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 23:03:08 EST From: SMARTNEWS@aol.com Subject: re: 'priests abuse of nuns' report

Dear List,

Below find info on this article.

Sincerely, Neil Brick

This article may be heavy for survivors of abuse to read.

Vatican denies 'priests abuse of nuns' report - The Vatican has denied a report in the National Catholic Reporter that says sexual abuse of nuns by priests is a serious problem. The article is based on five reports by senior members of women's religious orders and a priest going back to 1994. The National Catholic Reporter said the reports have been discussed at top Vatican levels. from http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_249036.html

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Date: Thu, 22-Mar-2001 07:00:22 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: More Stuff

Some more reading material

http://www.parascope.com/dossier.htm

http://www.parascope.com/ds/articles/ciasubliminaldoc.htm

http://www.parascope.com/articles/1296/imager.htm

http://davidicke.www.50megs.com/icke/magazine/vol9/articles/desb2.html

http://elfis.org/elfol0/mkconsp/apcia.txt

http://www.azstarnet.com/~freetht/puharich.htm

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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:01:29 -0000 From: "Catcher of The Catcher in the Rye" <thefbiisthecatcherintherye@hotmail.com> Subject: microwave audio

In reply to : "MORE STUFF"

Does anyone have the circuits or schematics to a microwave-audio device which is able to create the sensation of audio in the human head on a conscious basis and doesn't use the human ears to do so ?

If so, please post them here or let us know where they are posted

Some info :

http://www.raven1.net/v2s-kohn.htm

http://www.raven1.net/v2ssp.gif

------------------------------------------------------------- Some more reading material

http://www.parascope.com/dossier.htm

http://www.parascope.com/ds/articles/ciasubliminaldoc.htm

http://www.parascope.com/articles/1296/imager.htm

http://davidicke.www.50megs.com/icke/magazine/vol9/articles/desb2.html

http://elfis.org/elfol0/mkconsp/apcia.txt

http://www.azstarnet.com/~freetht/puharich.htm

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RE: microwave audio By frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca

Dutch microwave audio patent By thefbiisthecatcherintherye@hotmail.com

RE: Dutch microwave audio patent By frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca

RE: microwave audio By frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca

MKULTRA By e.maatkamp@hccnet.nl

Out of state Caller By packrat@texas.net

"Telepathic" Gunman Kills 2 In N. Carolina By abemarf@aol.com

RE: Out of state Caller By frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca

Re: only one savior By e.maatkamp@hccnet.nl

Mindcontrol and Billy Graham's Deception By e.maatkamp@hccnet.nl

Congressional Record 3 20 01 On Directed Energy & on lethal use of force By 1927@glasscity.net

RE: only one savior By west@sonic.net

RE: only one savior By e.maatkamp@hccnet.nl

RE: only one savior By west@sonic.net

Re: only one savior By e.maatkamp@hccnet.nl

More Murder And Mayhem In The Carolinas By abemarf@aol.com

re: Psychological Abuse May Cause Changes in Brain By smartnews@aol.com

MC: Spooks, Cyber-goons declare open season on whistleblowers/Fwd By ecotoday@aol.com

microwave audio : BULLSHIT, MR. VINCENT ! By thefbiisthecatcherintherye@hotmail.com

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Date: Thu, 22-Mar-2001 10:40:26 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: RE: microwave audio

Catcher of The Catcher in the Rye wrote: > > In reply to : "MORE STUFF" > > Does anyone have the circuits or schematics to a microwave-audio device > which is able to create the sensation of audio in the human head on a > conscious basis and doesn't use the human ears to do so ? >

Below is a URL to a patent issued for a Microwave Audio Effect Hearing Aid design which is intended as a hearing aid for the deaf. It refences older schemes which used external emitters. It also references some of the drawbacks of the older system designs that include subject heating due to the "Magnetron Heating Effect". This is a result of higher field density requirments when using external emitters. Rapid heating is often a complaint of Electronic Harassment and MC victims. The design and description is quite detailed.

http://www.delphion.com/cgi-bin/viewpat.cmd/WO09310730A1

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Date: Thu, 22-Mar-2001 10:52:29 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: RE: microwave audio

John Vincent wrote: > > Catcher of The Catcher in the Rye wrote: > > > > In reply to : "MORE STUFF" > > > > Does anyone have the circuits or schematics to a microwave-audio device > > which is able to create the sensation of audio in the human head on a > > conscious basis and doesn't use the human ears to do so ? > > > > Below is a URL to a patent issued for a Microwave Audio Effect Hearing > Aid design which is intended as a hearing aid for the deaf. > It refences older schemes which used external emitters. It also > references some of the drawbacks of the older system designs that > include subject heating due to the "Magnetron Heating Effect". This is a > > result of higher field density requirments when using external emitters. > > Rapid heating is often a complaint of Electronic Harassment and MC > victims. The design and description is quite detailed. > > http://www.delphion.com/cgi-bin/viewpat.cmd/WO09310730A1 > > JV

Daaaa, as a followup to the above, patent. Unfortunatly, people who were profoundly deaf and actually benefited from the above mentioned device or any such similar devices would also have to be forcably confined and treated for Schizophrenia under Canadian Law. Probably the reason why it may not be terribly popular as a remedy for deafness. The Canadian public payed good money to perpetrate the MC scam on the public and they'll be damned if that gets interfered with by trivialities like legitament medical uses.

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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:00:53 -0000 From: "Catcher of The Catcher in the Rye" <thefbiisthecatcherintherye@hotmail.com> Subject: Dutch microwave audio patent

I physically examined & tested the Dutch microwave-audio device. I also back-engineered its circuits. Unfortubately, IT DOESN'T WORK !!! AT ALL !!! ------------------------ John Vincent wrote:

Catcher of The Catcher in the Rye wrote:

In reply to : "MORE STUFF"

Does anyone have the circuits or schematics to a microwave-audio device which is able to create the sensation of audio in the human head on a conscious basis and doesn't use the human ears to do so ?

result of higher field density requirments when using external emitters.

Rapid heating is often a complaint of Electronic Harassment and MC victims. The design and description is quite detailed.

http://www.delphion.com/cgi-bin/viewpat.cmd/WO09310730A1

JV Daaaa, as a followup to the above, patent. Unfortunatly, people who were profoundly deaf and actually benefited from the above mentioned device or any such similar devices would also have to be forcably confined and treated for Schizophrenia under Canadian Law. Probably the reason why it may not be terribly popular as a remedy for deafness. The Canadian public payed good money to perpetrate the MC scam on the public and they'll be damned if that gets interfered with by trivialities like legitament medical uses.

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Date: Thu, 22-Mar-2001 11:32:09 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: RE: Dutch microwave audio patent

Catcher of The Catcher in the Rye wrote: > > I physically examined & tested the Dutch microwave-audio device. I also > back-engineered its circuits. Unfortubately, IT DOESN'T WORK !!! AT ALL > !!! > ------------------------

Good, because if it did work and you travelled with it to Canada, you would be Psychciatrically imprisoned.

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Date: Thu, 22-Mar-2001 12:07:45 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: RE: microwave audio

Simply asking this question in the wrong places in Canada will get you Psychciatrically Imprisoned ... permanently.

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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:59:42 +0100 From: "Ed" <e.maatkamp@hccnet.nl> Subject: MKULTRA

Those who know of MKULTRA know that Dr. Sidney Gottlieb was the leading figure there. Isn't it a great coincidence that in the Pretender TV series and movies the programmer of the children is also a man named Sidney? This is just too obvious no go unnoticed

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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:22:49 -0600 From: Sueann Campbell <packrat@texas.net> Subject: Out of state Caller

Glory be!

Talked to an out of state caller Tuesday who is having heavy street theater. The caller talked for 4 hours and said my web site really hit home and followed exactly the harassment being done to him/her. He/she thanked me profusely for putting up the web site and said he/she had already posted a link to the site on every news service and bulletin board he/she could find.

This just makes my day! God bless the caller! God bless all the survivors! God bless the perps that they may see the evil that they do and quit! Pray for them to just walk off the job and turn informant!

Sueann

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Date: Thu, 22-Mar-2001 15:36:12 GMT From: Martin F. Abernathy <abemarf@aol.com> Cc: RMNEWS_DAILY_EMAILS@yahoogroups.com

Subject: "Telepathic" Gunman Kills 2 In N. Carolina

LAWYER DESCRIBES DEFENDANT'S BELIEFS, OPENING ARGUMENTS MADE IN CHAPEL HILL SHOOTING SPREE-- LAWYER: DEFENDANT SAW SELF AS TELEPATH

Charlotte Observer, Thursday, October 26, 1995 by ESTES THOMPSON, Associated Press Page number 3C

HILLSBOROUGH - A man charged with killing two people during a random shooting spree in Chapel Hill believed he could hear other people's thoughts, a defense lawyer said Wednesday. Wendell Justin Williamson also thought he, and he alone, could save the world from destruction, public defender James Williams told the jury during opening remarks in the double-murder trial.

Williamson, 26, has admitted firing the shots Jan. 26 that killed restaurant worker Ralph Walker, 42, and UNC-Chapel Hill student Kevin Reichardt, 20. Williamson has been diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic with delusions, and he has pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity. A prosecutor said Williamson is a calculating killer who planned his actions and took 600 rounds of ammunition when he went on a well-planned murder spree.

Williamson carried 75 eight-round clips of ammunition, wore a black T-shirt with a skull on it and taped his boot laces so they wouldn't trip him, District Attorney Carl Fox told the jury.

Key to Williamson's defense is his belief that he was a telepath. ``He felt if he was not acknowledged as a telepath, something would happen that would destroy the world,'' Williams told the nine-woman, three-man jury.

Williamson is charged with two first-degree murder charges and could face the death penalty if convicted. He also is charged with wounding a police officer, shooting into a dwelling and attempted murder for shots fired at other people.

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WAS GUNMAN'S BEHAVIOR AN EARLY WARNING? FORMER LAW STUDENT'S ACTIONS DREW ATTENTION WELL BEFORE HE OPENED FIRE IN CHAPEL HILL.

Charlotte Observer, Wednesday, November 1, 1995 Associated Press Page number 1C

HILLSBOROUGH - The former law student charged with shooting two people to death in January had acted strangely as early as his freshman year in law school, fellow students testified Tuesday. Wendell Williamson, 26, of Clyde is charged with two counts of first-degree murder. He was arrested after stalking people along Henderson Street in Chapel Hill on Jan. 26, firing an M-1 military rifle.

Williamson has pleaded innocent by reason of insanity and his defense lawyers began calling witnesses to trace the defendant's mental history. The last of 32 prosecution witnesses was a police officer who testified that Williamson's fingerprints were on the weapon and its ammunition. J. Patrick Huber, a 1994 UNC-Chapel Hill law graduate, testified that he heard Williamson howling and saw him hit himself on Sept. 29, 1992, outside the law school building.

``His face was extremely distorted,'' Huber said. ``He was very red.'' Police officers took Williamson to the university hospital, where he was interviewed the next day by a psychology graduate student. ``He was making me very nervous,'' testified Joseph McClintock, the student who interviewed Williamson. Williamson told him there was a ``thing'' that lived in his spinal cord that could punish him for thoughts and behaviors. The voice once told Williamson to stop smoking, McClintock said.

The thing told Williamson what others said about him and had a voice that was likable and honest. ``He said I would like the voice,'' McClintock testified. But the ``thing'' had the power to punish Williamson, McClintock said, and one punishment was the ability to make Williamson's underwear smell bad.

``The thing doesn't want him to go to law school,'' the psychologist testified. ``He should beg for money until some girl came along and took him home.'' During the testimony about voices, the psychologist was interrupted when voices from a citizen's band radio conversation were picked up by the courtroom public address system.

A UNC psychiatrist testified that Williamson was released in 1992 by a judge despite doctors' opinions that he should remain hospitalized. Dr. Christina Mickiewicz testified that medical staff thought Williamson was schizophrenic and that he was still psychotic several days after the incident in which he hit himself and howled.

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JURORS HEAR TAPED ADMISSION OF SLAYINGS-- DEFENDANT ASKED FOR RECOGNITION AS TELEPATH AFTER CHAPEL HILL SHOOTING SPREE

Charlotte Observer, Friday, November 3, 1995 by ESTES THOMPSON, Associated Press Page number 1C

HILLSBOROUGH - The former UNC-Chapel Hill law student who admits killing two people during a Chapel Hill shooting spree talked to a jury Thursday without taking the witness stand. ``I killed the people,'' Wendell Williamson said at one point on a poor-quality tape that was played during his first-degree murder trial. He also said he was telepathic.

``I would be satisfied with one of two things - the death penalty or admission that I'm a telepath,'' Williamson said on the tape. The tape, made during a police interview, was played by defense lawyers, who tried last week to have it excluded from evidence. Williamson, who has been diagnosed as paranoid schizophrenic, has pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity. The defense finished calling witnesses by midafternoon Thursday and was expected to rest today after the prosecutor cross-examines a witness.

Closing arguments will follow - either today or Monday. The father of one victim bowed his head, and the sister of another victim cried as the tape was played. Williamson stared at his attorney's table as he listened to himself talking rapidly about being telepathic. Williamson, 27, is on trial in Orange County Superior Court on first-degree murder charges in the deaths of restaurant worker Ralph Walker, 42, and Kevin Reichardt, 20, a UNC lacrosse player from Annapolis, Md. If convicted, he could face the death penalty.

Nicole Wolfe, a psychiatrist at Dorothea Dix Hospital, a state-run mental institution. ``He did not appreciate the wrongfulness of his conduct.'' Williamson also is charged with wounding a police officer, shooting into a dwelling and attempted murder for shots fired at other people. On cross-examination, Wolfe told District Attorney Carl Fox that there was no medical test for insanity and that someone could be a paranoid schizophrenic and not be violent or legally insane.

Legal insanity is a condition in which a mental illness renders a defendant incapable of telling right from wrong.

``He knew shooting people was wrong, but the reasons why he shot them were different,'' Wolfe said. She also said the shootings were the only way Williamson knew to tell the world of his telepathic powers. ``He was so delusional he thought he might have to shoot hundreds of people in Chapel Hill in order for the knowledge he was a telepath to get out of town,'' Wolfe said. ``He thought he would get a Congressional Medal of Honor for the act.''

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MARtin F. ABErnathy [abemarf@aol.com]

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Date: Thu, 22-Mar-2001 15:46:36 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: RE: Out of state Caller

Sueann Campbell wrote: > Glory be! > > Talked to an out of state caller Tuesday who is having

Here's another link

http://www.icom.ca/~mccoy

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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:52:36 +0100 From: "Ed" <e.maatkamp@hccnet.nl> Subject: Re: only one savior

http://hermes.spaceports.com/~eddy4god/Icke's-Faith.htm

This site explains Icke's false belief-system Ed

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It was brilliant receiving such a quick response to my searching the internet on the latin words on the one dollar bill. I have known about the conspiracy for about 20years now. Before Rhodesia, S.W.A. and South Africa fell into the hands of the communists I was receiving mail called "The Signpost". Of course most people one talks to think that we are crazy. Once the scales have been removed from our eyes everything falls into place. Our great Saviour had to overcome not only death, but also the powers of spiritual darkness when he went to the cross. I have a few friends who also can see everything unfolding, the One World Government, the One World Church and of course The United Nations playing such an important role in causing havoc everywhere.

Have you read any of David Ike's books. I went to hear him when he came to S.A. but walked out when he started on his theories of the spiritual side of man. Very interesting except not very sure about the reptilian side of it. Unless it is the demonic powers in action.

Hope to hear from you and also I would like to know some other books I could read on the subject. It is getting very difficult to find literature these days as they seem to be disappearing off the shelves.

Praise to our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ for the wonderful gift of eternal life and for the work of the Holy Spirit who has set us free.

Yours because I am his Beverley

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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 20:01:27 +0100 From: "Ed" <e.maatkamp@hccnet.nl> Subject: Mindcontrol and Billy Graham's Deception

http://hermes.spaceports.com/~eddy4god/Manipulation.htm

http://hermes.spaceports.com/~eddy4god/Graham.htm

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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:59:16 -0800 From: Pat Mougey <1927@glasscity.net> CC: 1927@glasscity.net Subject: Congressional Record 3 20 01 On Directed Energy & on lethal use of force

Congressional Record: March 20, 2001 (Senate) Page S2571-S2572

DIRECTED ENERGY AND NON-LETHAL USE OF FORCE

Mr. DOMENICI. Mr. President, I rise today to discuss a serious and effective use of new technologies in our military operations. While I will focus on a specific directed energy technology, the Joint Non- Lethal Weapons Program Office is involved in many other research areas that provide innovative solutions to our military men and women in their daily missions. Recently, the Marines unveiled a device known as Active Denial Technology, ADT. This is a non-lethal weapons system based on a microwave source. This device, mounted on a humvee or other mobile platform, could serve as a riot control method in our peacekeeping operations or in other situations involving civilians. This project and technology was kept classified until very recently. The Pentagon noted that further testing, both on humans and, evidently, goats will be done to ensure that it truly is a non-lethal method of crowd control or a means to disperse potentially hostile mobs. The notion that the Pentagon is using ``microwaves'' on humans, and especially on animals, has inflamed some human and animal rights groups. Among others it has simply sparked fear that a new weapon exists that will fry people. This is not the case. And, unfortunately, few of the media reports offer sufficient detail or comparisons to clarify the value of such a system or put its use in perspective. While ADT is ``tunable,'' the energy cannot be ``tuned up'' to a level that would immediately cause permanent damage to human subjects. The technology does not cause injury due to the low energy levels used. ADT does cause heat-induced pain that is nearly identical to briefly touching a lightbulb that has been on for a while. However, unlike a hot lightbulb, the energy propagated at this level does not cause rapid burning. Within a few seconds the pain induced by this energy beam is intended to cause the subject to run away rather than to continue to experience pain. Such technologies have never before been used in a military or peacekeeping endeavor. Therefore, there is

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naturally suspicion or fear of the unknown and usually the worst is imagined. I believe this is unwarranted, especially when one considers the currently available options in these types of military situations. Think of 1993 in Somalia. The U.S. lost 18 soldiers and somewhere between 500 and 1,000 Somalis were killed on the streets of Mogadishu. The Somalis used children as human shields, and our military was forced to fire on angry crowds of civilians, some civilians having automatic rifles and grenades. Peacekeeping operations are not void of lethal threats. Oftentimes our military is confronted with armed civilians or situations where unarmed, defenseless civilians are intermixed and indistinguishable from persons possessing lethal means. Regardless of the new Administration's approach to involvement of the U.S. military in non-traditional operations, I believe these types of missions will continue to be a staple of our military's daily operations for a long time to come. Further, these missions often involve situations that render U.S. soldiers vulnerable or threaten the lives of innocent civilians. I believe that the applications of directed energy technologies in these and other operations can provide a more humane and militarily effective approach. Active denial technology is merely one device on a list of research and development endeavors currently underway by the Pentagon's Joint Non-Lethal Weapons Program. I would encourage my colleagues to get briefed on the mission and projects in the Non-Lethal Weapons Program. Further, I believe that the tunability of microwave and laser technologies will offer a palette of readily available options to address operational needs in both traditional and non-traditional military operations, and I fully support further funding of research in this area.

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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 13:10:58 -0800 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> Subject: RE: [MC] only one savior

> not very > sure about the reptilian side of it. Unless it is the demonic powers in > action.

From the http://hermes.spaceports.com/~eddy4god/Icke's-Faith.htm , it appears that Icke is either a victim or a controller, or both. His ideas are too wacky to take seriously, but the question is: does belief in a "reptilian side" and "demonic powers" make one more suspectible to mind control? Satanic ceremonies, Catholic exorcisms and "alien abductions" following certain meditation exercises (Whitley Streiber is an example) appear to support this idea, since all of these are hypnotic induction ceremonies that create dissociated alters.

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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 22:12:43 +0100 From: "Ed" <e.maatkamp@hccnet.nl> Subject: RE: only one savior

Those who are not saved are already under the control of the evil one, the master programmer. Icke believes in the "reptilian brain" in humans as a leftover from the evolution process. Springmeier also speaks about the condition of mind as "reptilian" so as to explain the "survivor-instinct" in man. But Springmeier does believe in the creation account. Icke looks too much like a showman too

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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:08:09 -0800 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> Subject: RE: [MC] only one savior

> Those who are not saved are already under the control of the evil one, > the master programmer.

So the billions of non-fundamentalist Christians in the world are all mind control victims? Hmmm...we've got our work cut out for us on this list! :-)

I wonder if there's a Buddhist or Moslem mind control list where they are saying the same thing about Christians.

> humans as a leftover from the evolution process. Springmeier also > speaks about the condition of mind as "reptilian"

Right, this is basic neurophysiology. The primitive brain (brain stem structures, including medulla, pons, cerebellum) evolved from the reptile brain, See http://www.epub.org.br/cm/n05/mente/limbic_i.htm .

Icke is talking about something entirely different, claiming he has "seen people had seen people in positions of power, not exclusively so, but overwhelmingly so, turn into a reptilian form and then go back to human" and not asking the obvious: are they having acid flashbacks? (http://www.davidicke.com/icke/articles/aliens.html ).

Lster he says about Cathy O'Brien:

"She talks about being with George Bush, and him saying that they were an extraterrestrial race that came from a "far off space place" who'd taken over the world, and no one realized it because they look human. But, she said, he changed in front of her into a reptile. She talked about being with the Bennett brothers, these politicians, political figures in America, and how they put her through a mind-control program in which they said they came from another dimension and they were inter-dimensional beings."

The rational explanation is that she was under the influence of drugs and/or hypnosis. By pushing the "alien" explanation, he makes readers and listeners more susceptible to such mind-control tactics. The question is: is this intentional or a result of his own mind control experiences?

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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 23:21:36 +0100 From: "Ed" <e.maatkamp@hccnet.nl> Subject: Re: only one savior

>> Those who are not saved are already under the control of the evil one, >> the master programmer.

>So the billions of non-fundamentalist Christians in the world are all mind >control victims? Hmmm...we've got our work cut out for us on this list! :-)

Well, being saved does not depend on being "fundamentalist" or not, but on what the fundament is the christian believes in. There is oine Fundament and that is Christ.

>I wonder if there's a Buddhist or Moslem mind control list where they are >saying the same thing about Christians.

O I know that for sure. But I have found in debates with muslems that they go away soon because they do not have the right answers

> humans as a leftover from the evolution process. Springmeier also > speaks about the condition of mind as "reptilian"

If you believe in evolution perhaps. Or are you referring to development in the womb? Because I for one, reject evolution as a scientific fact, and even as a science as a whole.

>Icke is talking about something entirely different, claiming he has "seen >people had seen people in positions of power, not exclusively so, but >overwhelmingly so, turn into a reptilian form and then go back to human" and >not asking the obvious: are they having acid flashbacks? >(http://www.davidicke.com/icke/articles/aliens.html ).

I know a woman whom I talked to very often, who has also seen reptilians. if they appear they are either materialized evil spirits, or hybryds of genetic experiements, or as you say hallucinations.

>Lster he says about Cathy O'Brien:

>"She talks about being with George Bush, and him saying that they were an >extraterrestrial race that came from a "far off space place" who'd taken >over the world, and no one realized it because they look human. But, she >said, he changed in front of her into a reptile. She talked about being with >the Bennett brothers, these politicians, political figures in America, and >how they put her through a mind-control program in which they said they came >from another dimension and they were inter-dimensional beings."

>The rational explanation is that she was under the influence of drugs and/or >hypnosis. By pushing the "alien" explanation, he makes readers and listeners >more susceptible to such mind-control tactics. The question is: is this >intentional or a result of his own mind control experiences?

Well i do not know. But you can let people believe things very easily. Some say Al Gore shapeshifted on TV during the presidential debate, hehe

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Date: Thu, 22-Mar-2001 22:43:11 GMT From: M. F. Abernathy <abemarf@aol.com> Cc: RMNEWS_DAILY_EMAILS@yahoogroups.com

Subject: More Murder And Mayhem In The Carolinas

What's happening in the Carolinas? They sure seem to have a *lot* of 'paranoid schizophrenics"...

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MENTALLY ILL OR READY FOR TRIAL? MAN MIGHT BE TRIED IN MOTHER'S KILLING

CHARLOTTE OBSERVER, SUNDAY May 15, 1988 by GARY L. WRIGHT, Staff Writer Page number 1A

(CHARLOTTE) - In a Dec. 1, 1984, letter to Mecklenburg mental health officials, Emily Cannon described her frustration in trying to get help for her mentally disturbed and often violent 20-year-old son. Four days later the 40-year-old South Mecklenburg High School history teacher was dead - beaten with a blunt object, cut with a butcher knife and dumped in a patch of woods in northwest Charlotte.

For 3 1/2 years since, her son and accused killer, Bobby Cannon, has lived in state mental hospitals, judged mentally ill and unable to stand trial. Now, however, a state psychiatrist reports improvement in the man who once said God told him to kill his mother. Bobby Cannon, says Dr. Patricio Lara, is capable of standing trial.

Lara's report has touched off a fight over releasing Cannon from Broughton Hospital in Morganton for return to face murder charges in Mecklenburg County. Mecklenburg Assistant District Attorney Gentry Caudill wants to try Cannon this summer, and has announced he'll seek the death penalty. Cannon's attorneys, Mecklenburg Public Defender Isabel Day and Harold Bender, believe Cannon, now 23, is still mentally ill. They have asked that the trial be delayed until another hearing to determine whether Cannon is competent.

In an interview last week, Robert Cannon said his son should not be held accountable for his former wife's slaying. "The boy is not well," said the 47-year-old principal at Huntingtowne Farms Elementary School. "I doubt if he ever will be. He knows his mother is dead. He has an understanding that he took his mother's life. "As to why it happened, I doubt he will ever understand."

Bobby Cannon, who once said he "hears voices of trillions of other people" telling him what to do, was first declared mentally ill and committed to Broughton following a competency hearing in April 1985. Cannon had received psychiatric care since he was a senior at West Charlotte High School in 1981. Once a model student, his grades suddenly dropped off and his teachers said he seemed a different person. In September 1982 he attacked his mother for the first time, threatening her with a screwdriver. The next day he was voluntarily committed to the Mecklenburg County Mental Health Center.

Psychiatrists, however, said Bobby Cannon was not mentally ill at the time and discharged him. Less than a month later, he attacked both his parents with a board. Robert Cannon required emergency medical treatment and stitches. Emily Cannon was knocked unconscious and hospitalized for a week. Bobby Cannon's psychiatric treatment continued off and on until Emily Cannon was killed in December 1984.

During the 1985 competency hearing, Cannon was described by psychiatrists as a chronic paranoid schizophrenic and a danger to himself and others. In court documents filed at the Mecklenburg County Courthouse, Day said Cannon was unable to differentiate between reality and delusion.

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PSYCHOLOGIST SAYS SHOOTING SUSPECT IS SCHIZOPHRENIC CHARLOTTE OBSERVER, FRIDAY April 7, 1989 Associated Press Page number 5D

WINSTON-SALEM - A psychologist testified Thursday that Michael Charles Hayes is a paranoid schizophrenic who was suffering delusions the night four people were killed and five were wounded by gunfire. Dr. Jerry Wayne Noble, who spent about 12 hours testing and interviewing Hayes after the shootings, found that the 25-year-old moped mechanic was operating under a variety of misbeliefs July 17, including that he was on a mission from God to rid the world of demons.

In interviews with Noble, Hayes said God spoke to him at least three times before the shootings and told him he would know the demons by their "glazed eyes, fixed stares, the odor of their breath and by their not knowing their way around."

Hayes of Davidson County is charged with four counts of murder and eight counts of assault stemming from a rampage in which a .22-caliber rifle was fired at motorists passing through a Forsyth County neighborhood. Noble's statements followed testimony by acquaintances and family members that they had noticed drastic changes in Hayes' behavior. The defendant's wife of four years, Karen Hayes, testified Thursday that she had left her husband days before the incident because he had been acting strangely and had failed to come home nights.

Judge James Beaty Jr. disallowed some of her testimony. Still, the judge allowed Noble to relate statements she made while Noble was gathering her husband's medical history.

In the week before the shootings, she told Noble, Hayes had become unusually irritable. On the Wednesday before the killings - the day she left him - she said, he called her demon-possessed. By Friday, he told her, he had found seven or eight new girlfriends, had wealth in the millions of dollars and would soon be going on tour with the rock group Van Halen.

Hayes' attorneys, Gregory Davis and Michael Grace, argue that the defendant was insane when the shootings occurred. Noble said he found the defendant able to stand trial. But the psychologist said he did not think Hayes understood that he had killed four people.

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MAN SEEKS TO LEAVE MENTAL HOSPITAL CHARLOTTE OBSERVER, THURSDAY July 13, 1989 Associated Press Page number 3B

WINSTON-SALEM - Three months after being found not guilty by reason of insanity in the shooting deaths of four people, Michael Charles Hayes is trying to win his release from a state mental hospital, a prosecutor says. "I think he has a hearing next week," said Eric Saunders, an assistant district attorney who helped prosecute Hayes. "That's what I've been informed. At this point, it's being contested. That means that the attorney who is representing Michael Hayes is contesting his confinement."

Hayes was found not guilty April 14 of killing four people and wounding five others the night of July 17, 1988. He told investigators he was killing "demons." He was ordered committed to Dorothea Dix Hospital in Raleigh but can be released under state law when a doctor rules that he is no longer a danger to himself or others.

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WOMAN GETS LIFE FOR MURDERING SCHIZOPHRENIC BROTHER CHARLOTTE OBSERVER, THURSDAY May 25, 1989 by DIANE SUCHETKA, Staff Writer Page number 1A

CHESTER, S.C. - Lothell Tate sobbed Wednesday as 6th Circuit Judge Don Rushing told her the way she murdered her schizophrenic brother "truly was horrible" and then sentenced her to life in prison. "It was as brutal and dispassionate a murder as I've had a chance to see as a trial judge," Rushing told Tate, 32, in Chester County General Sessions Court.

"The law of the state is clear . . . that you be committed to life in prison." Tate, of Gastonia, cried softly, wiped her nose with a tissue and made no comment as officers led her from the courtroom after the guilty verdict was announced at 2:30 p.m. Her mother, Pauline Wilkerson, crying afterward, refused to comment. She was the only family member in the courtroom when the two-day trial ended.

Jurors had deliberated for about an hour. Tate must serve a minimum of 20 years, but public defender Tyre Lee told the judge he will appeal. He could not be reached for comment after the trial. Tate, who confessed to police and jurors that she shot her brother Malcoum Tate 13 times in December, said she did it because she loved him, and life with him "was a living hell."

"I was scared that Malcoum was going to come in the house and hurt somebody or kill somebody . . . ," she told the jury during 45 minutes of testimony Tuesday. "I was scared. I was scared for my daughter." According to testimony, Lothell Tate and Wilkerson drove Malcoum Tate from Gastonia to Chester County late Dec. 18.

When Malcoum Tate stepped onto the roadside to relieve himself, Lothell shot him, reloaded her mother's .25-caliber semi-automatic gun and shot him again. When she felt no pulse, Lothell Tate and her mother rolled Malcoum Tate's body into a gully, covered it with leaves and a dog food bag and drove home.

"I said to Malcoum, I said, Malcoum, I love you, and I only want what's best for you, and I'm sorry,' and I shot him . . . ," Lothell Tate said Tuesday between sobs. "And I told him again, Malcoum, I love you, and I'm sorry,' and I shot him again until he quit moving." Wilkerson, 62, of Gastonia, also has been charged with murder. Her trial will likely begin in July, and Justice has said charges against her could be reduced.

Malcoum Tate, 34, had been diagnosed with schizophrenia at least as early as 1977. He had been hospitalized five times. Lothell and other family members have said Malcoum threatened them and said he believed God was telling him to kill Lothell Tate's daughter, now 8, and other family members. He kicked down their apartment door one morning last fall, and the family was evicted, Lothell Tate said.

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SUSPECT IN KILLING RULED INCOMPETENT CHARLOTTE OBSERVER, WEDNESDAY July 19, 1989 by ED MARTIN, Staff Writer Page number 4B

(CHARLOTTE) - A man who was in and out of the mental health system for a decade before he was accused of killing a Charlotte businessman was ruled incompetent to stand trial Tuesday. Tony Harrison, 36, is a chronic schizophrenic who couldn't tell right from wrong when George Kaloudis was shot to death on June 1, says the report of Dr. Bob Rollins, state forensic psychiatrist.

In his report to Mecklenburg County Superior Court Judge Kenneth Griffin, Rollins says Harrison does not understand the murder charge against him and cannot help his attorney prepare his defense. Police say Harrison walked into Kaloudis's home, either by mistake or in search of food, and shot Kaloudis when confronted. Kaloudis, 59, was a Greek immigrant who often talked about his love for America. He had operated several restaurants.

Harrison had been committed to state mental hospitals four times, dating to the early 1980s. Harrison's Glenwood Drive neighbors in northwest Charlotte say his behavior became increasingly strange before Kaloudis's death. They said they often saw him kneeling in his driveway or in their yards, laughing, talking to himself and praying.

In March, three months before the shooting, Harrison told his sister that "devils and angels" were telling him to kill someone. Family members tried to have him involuntarily committed to a state hospital.

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SUMTER MAN GETS LIFE TERMS: SUSPECT ENTERS GUILTY BUT MENTALLY ILL PLEA The State (Columbia, SC), TUESDAY November 22, 1988 by JAN TUTEN, Camden Bureau Page number 1C

A Sumter man charged with a string of crimes that included four murders and assaults on two other people pleaded guilty but mentally ill Monday. Circuit Judge James M. Morris sentenced Phillip Johnson, 28, to eight consecutive life terms plus an additional 141 years during a hearing that initially was scheduled for pretrial motions.

The guilty but mentally ill plea means Johnson will receive psychiatric counseling before he becomes a member of the main prison population. Prosecutors had intended to seek the death penalty against Johnson. His trial had been set for Dec. 5. Third Circuit Solicitor Wade S. Kolb Jr. said prosecutors and defense attorneys had been discussing a plea ''for some time'' and reached an agreement Monday. The investigating officers and the victims' families agreed to the plea arrangement, Kolb said.

''That and the factor of his mental illness and the Limmie Arthur decision ,made us decide not to go forward with seeking the death penalty,'' Kolb said. The South Carolina Supreme Court in October reversed a death penalty conviction for Arthur, a Richland County man with an IQ of 65 and the mental capacity of a 10-year-old.

The high court ruled in that case that a trial judge must go to great lengths in determining if a defendant fully understands his rights. Johnson, who also is mentally retarded with an IQ of 62, had been found competent to stand trial, Kolb said, but also was diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic. Kolb said the state's sole evidence in the four murders was a confession, during which Johnson claimed ''evil spirits'' told him to commit the crimes.

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S.C. KILLER SCHIZOPHRENIC, HIS BEHAVIOR 'BIZARRE,' PSYCHIATRIST TESTIFIES CHARLOTTE OBSERVER, FRIDAY June 1, 1990 Associated Press Page number 3D

COLUMBIA, SC - Death row inmate Larry Gene Bell is a lunatic who believes he is Jesus Christ, smears himself with excrement and urinates in drinks, his lawyers and a psychiatrist say. At a court hearing, Dr. Jonas Rappeport, a Baltimore forensic psychiatrist, said Bell, formerly of Charlotte, is a paranoid schizophrenic whose inability to perceive reality has gotten worse as he has gotten older. He said Bell hears voices, including that of the sister of one of his murder victims, and often falls into trances.

"He thinks people know his thoughts and ideas around the world," Rappeport said. "This is an individual who goes off into bizarre, unusual behavior for reasons that are not obvious to anyone else." Rappeport testified Wednesday at a hearing before Special Circuit Judge Walter Bristow, who is being asked to overturn Bell's death sentence and conviction for the 1985 murder of Shari Smith, 17, of Lexington County.

Bell was sentenced to die in the electric chair for the 1985 murder of 9-year-old Debra May Helmick, who was kidnapped from her home in Richland County. And Charlotte police have considered Bell a suspect in the Nov. 18, 1984, disappearance of Sandee Cornett.

Bell, 41, a former Gilbert electrician, was convicted of the two murders in separate trials in Berkeley and Pickens counties. One of Bell's court-appointed lawyers, Stephen Morrison, said Bell has smeared food and his excrement on himself and urinated in tea given him in his cell.

Prosecutors contend Bell's behavior is an act designed to help him avoid the electric chair. The state Supreme Court upheld Bell's conviction and death sentence in 1988, ruling there were no legal flaws in Bell's 1986 trial for Shari's murder. Bell is appealing his conviction and death sentence for Debra's murder. The U.S. Supreme Court has not ruled whether it will consider hearing the appeal in that case.

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RIMERT WILL GO TO PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL BEFORE PRISON Charlotte Observer, THURSDAY September 19, 1991 by LOLO PENDERGRAST and DAN HUNTLEY, Staff Writers Page number 1Y

Doctors said Wednesday that Gary Allen Rimert suffers from paranoid schizophrenia - an incurable "thought disease" that probably will keep him in a state mental hospital or prison for life. Rimert, 22, of Lafayette, Ind., was found guilty but mentally ill Wednesday on charges of murdering his grandmother, her husband and two next-door neighbors in River Hills in July 1990.

He was sentenced to four life terms, which he will serve in a psychiatric hospital until he is deemed ready to join the general prison population in a maximum-security facility. The guilty-but-mentally-ill verdict is a relatively recent addition to the S.C. Code of Laws.

"I don't believe any states had guilty-but-mentally-ill verdicts before the late 1970s, and South Carolina didn't have it until about 1984," said USC law professor William McAninch, the author of Criminal Law of South Carolina. Dr. Donald Morgan, a USC psychiatry professor and former Walter Reed Army Medical Center chief psychiatrist, told the court he examined the cases of 100 schizophrenic prisoners in S.C. prisons. He said the 24 who were found guilty but mentally ill received no more treatment than the 76 who were found guilty.

During this week's trial, Morgan testified Rimert showed classic symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia. He suffered illogical thoughts, staid emotions and command hallucinations - outside voices that order a person to do things.

Records showed Rimert was treated for a psychotic episode a month before the killings. He was taking Loxitane, an anti-psychotic drug that softens the symptoms of schizophrenia, court records showed. Generally diagnosed when its victims are teenagers, the illness is biological, traced in recent years to the brain's inability to metabolize nutrients.

Rimert also suffered the accompanying paranoia, feelings that police or other people wanted to hurt him and could read or inject thoughts into his mind. He suffered a sensation that his skin was crawling or burning, common among paranoid schizophrenics, Morgan said.

Dr. Larry Montgomery, a forensic psychiatrist at the William S. Hall Institute in Columbia, testified Rimert followed orders to kill the two couples or burn in hell. Forty percent of paranoid schizophrenics hear and follow command hallucinations, according to medical studies. Rimert didn't fully realize he'd killed his grandparents - and he didn't cry about it - until months later, said Montgomery, who testified for both the defense and the prosecution.

He told a nurse, "I scared my grandparents" and was segregated from other patients because he fought over the phone. "He said he had to call his grandparents," Montgomery testified. Morgan, who testified for the defense, said the disease stopped Rimert from making the right moral choices. "The key thing is that he was obeying voices that gave him no option," Morgan testified. "I don't believe there was any possibility he could tell right from wrong."

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HOSPITAL RELEASED MAN BEFORE 4 WERE KILLED The State (Columbia, SC)-- TUESDAY September 17, 1991 ASSOCIATED PRESS Page number 4B

YORK - A 22-year-old man accused of killing his grandparents and another elderly couple was released from an Indiana hospital days before the slayings because his insurance coverage expired, a defense lawyer said Monday during opening arguments in the murder trial. Gary Rimert of Lafayette, Ind., is accused of killing his grandparents, 81-year-old Henry and 82-year-old Alice Rohrs, and their River Hills neighbors, 71-year-old Ralph and 69-year-old Dee Petersen.

He pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity to the four murder charges Monday and to four charges of the use of a knife in the commission of a murder. Earlier in the day, Circuit Court Judge Paul Short found Rimert competent to stand trial.

Rimert faces four life terms in prison or an indefinite term in a psychiatric hospital if convicted. Two days before the July 14, 1990, killings in the posh Lake Wylie community, Rimert was released from a hospital in Lafayette where he spent less than a month for psychiatric treatment.

''He (Rimert) was admitted to Home Hospital for 30 days and he was kicked out of the hospital on the 27th day,'' defense lawyer David Belser said Monday. ''The administrator of the hospital sent his mother a memorandum reminding her that he only had three days left on his hospital coverage,'' Belser said. Home Hospital officials in Lafayette could not be reached Monday night for comment.

Two days after his release, Rimert hopped in his car for what Belser described as an imaginary journey,'that lasted until the morning of July 14, 1990. ''The original plan was to go to Florida to save his girlfriend from being a prostitute. But he ran out of money and decided to visit his grandparents in River Hills,'' Belser said.

''He arrived at 8 o'clock that morning and within 2 hours four people were dead.'' Authorities said Rimert was hallucinating during the stabbings and did not have his medication. The murdered couples all had been stabbed several times with a 14-inch carving knife, and Rimert told police he killed them, according to arrest warrants.

In late December, psychiatrists at the State Hospital in Columbia declared that Rimert was insane at the time of the slayings. He was diagnosed a paranoid schizophrenic. Schizophrenia is thought to be caused by an organic or biological deficiency that can be controlled by medication.

At the request of York-area Solicitor Larry Grant, Rimert has spent the past 14 months in the State Hospital undergoing psychiatric treatment and evaluation. He told jurors details about Rimert to bolster the insanity defense. ''The voices were urging him to kill his grandparents and their neighbors or burn in hell. And he fought a losing battle with these voices,'' Belser said.

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HORNSBY GUILTY BUT MENTALLY ILL IN 1992 SLAYING, JURY DECIDES The State (Columbia, SC) FRIDAY September 2, 1994 by LISA GREENE, Staff Writer Page number B3

A jury found a Richland County man guilty but mentally ill Thursday in the 1992 murder of a 73-year-old man. Brent Hornsby, 39, was sentenced to two consecutive life terms for murder and first-degree burglary. He will be eligible for parole in 20 years.

Hornsby stabbed Calvin Henry, 73, in the chest with a 14-inch bayonet knife in November 1992. Henry had just returned home from choir practice to care for his invalid wife, who had multiple sclerosis.

Both sides agreed that Hornsby, a paranoid schizophrenic, has mental problems. But his lawyer said Hornsby should be found not guilty because he is insane. The prosecutor said Hornsby was guilty but mentally ill. If Hornsby had been found not guilty by reason of insanity, he would have gone to the state hospital, spending anywhere from four months to life there. A court hearing would have been required to release him. Instead, Hornsby will go a psychiatric unit in the Department of Corrections, then be imprisoned with other inmates.

Prosecutors believe Hornsby was the first Richland County defendant to use an insanity defense in a murder case in about 15 years. Hornsby's lawyer, chief public defender Jeff Bloom, said he was satisfied with the verdict. He said he achieved his main goal before the trial, when prosecutors decided not to seek a death sentence against Hornsby.

But Bloom said he still is worried that Hornsby won't get the help he needs. ''My concern is that mentally ill defendants are not getting the type of treatment they need in prison,'' he said.

Psychiatrists testified that Hornsby, who has had mental problems since 1973, has hallucinations, sometimes thinks he can communicate with people telepathically, has irrational fears that others may harm or kill him, and sometimes thinks that inanimate objects, such as furniture, can speak to him.

MAN MIGHT FACE TRIAL IN 2 SLAYINGS COMPETENCY HEARING TODAY The State (Columbia, SC )-- Monday, September 8, 1997 by MICHELLE R. DAVIS Staff Writer Page number B1

Four years ago, police say, Allen Johnson killed his girlfriend's two children, watched television, then pedaled his bicycle to a convenience store to report the crimes. But Johnson, who could face the death penalty, has never come before a jury. Three years ago, evaluators at the state Department of Mental Health found he was not competent to stand trial, and he has been hospitalized ever since.

Today, Circuit Judge Gary Clary will hold a hearing in a Richland County courtroom to determine if Johnson, 29, is well enough to be tried. A recent evaluation by a different psychiatrist found that Johnson was able to understand court proceedings and assist in his defense.

Normally, when defendants are found incompetent to stand trial, the charges pending against them are nullified but can be reinstated later. In this case, prosecutors with the 5th Circuit solicitor's office, left the charges - including notification they would seek the death penalty - pending, Solicitor Barney Giese said.

Johnson is accused of killing the 4-year-old son and 8-month-old daughter of Sylvia Gilmore on Aug. 22, 1993. Johnson had been living with Gilmore at her Saxon Homes apartment. Johnson's attorney, Richland County Chief Public Defender Jeff Bloom, said he questions whether his client can really help with his case after years of medication.

"Competence is something that can change rapidly," Bloom said. While Johnson may be found competent today, on the day a trial is scheduled he may be unable to help in his defense, Bloom said. Johnson has failed at least six competency evaluations in the last three years.

The reports say Johnson often hears voices telling him to do things, including choking and killing other people. He also has hallucinations, sometimes imagining that the dead children are clinging to his back as he tries to rub them off, the reports say.

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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:40:12 EST From: SMARTNEWS@aol.com Subject: re: Psychological Abuse May Cause Changes in Brain

Dear List,

Please find excerpts from this article below.

Sincerely, Neil Brick

Psychological Abuse May Cause Changes in Brain - Psychiatric News - 3/02/01 -Clinical & Research News - By Joan Arehart-Treichel "it appears as if this psychological impact can hurt the temporal lobes, important for sound and spoken language, and the limbic system the brain's emotional processing center....it appears as if the psychological impact of childhood physical abuse can damage the corpus callosum the major information pathway between the two brain hemispheres....the psychological impact ensuing from childhood physical abuse appears capable of damaging the cerebellar vermis, an area of the brain involved in emotion, attention, and the regulation of the limbic system....An overview of the findings by Teicher and his colleagues, as well as of the implications of these findings for psychiatry, was published in the fall 2000 issue of Cerebrum." http://www.psych.org/pnews/01-03-02/abuse.html

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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 20:18:35 EST From: Ecotoday@aol.com CC: illusions@beyond-the-illusion.com, Comentary@listbot.com (Cosmic Comentary), SNETNEWS@topica.com, mc@topica.com Subject: MC: Spooks, Cyber-goons declare open season on whistleblowers/Fwd

From John Quinn at Newshawk:

Barbara Hartwell Legal Defense and Research Fund PO Box 832 Woodstock NY 12498 websites: http://www.ulster.net/~babs7/ http://www.homestead.com/barbarahartwellsurvivor/

SPOOKS AND CYBER-GOONS DECLARE OPEN SEASON ON WHISTLEBLOWERS

I have just been informed by my new webmaster, Ron Garon, that the perps who have been hacking into my websites --ever since he put the first NEW one up several weeks ago-- have now TORN DOWN the latest new and improved site Ron constructed for me.

If you look at my old site ( babs7) you will see that the perps have wiped out my hit-counter, so I now have no way to check how MANY visitors are coming to my site. Shortly before that, they hacked in and changed my password, so I could not find out WHO ALL was visiting my site. (A lot of spooks, for sure, the last time I was able to look.)

If you check my newer site (homestead) you will see that the perps have hacked in and distorted the photo of me, wearing camo gear --taken on a nocturnal field mission-- by my friend Bruce Cornet. Bruce is an excellent photographer... but after the hackers' handiwork, I look like hell.

And I guess they didn't much like my motto on the front page: DON'T TREAD ON ME. I thought the rattler, ready to strike, was kind of cute. But alas, along with his message, they wiped him out too.

And who knows what else the cyber-vandals may have done--like destroying more of my links-- which continues to happen on a regular basis.

Many people have told me that they have NEVER been able to access my websites -- ever since the first one was constructed last May.

Ron has worked very hard and spent many hours --volunteering his time-- to help me because he supports my work and believes, as I do, that the criminals who are commiting human rights absuses, such as mind control and nonconsensual human experimentation must be EXPOSED --and STOPPED. Considering the fact that Ron holds a regular full-time job, as well as serving as a Christian minister in two different ministries, he doesn't have much free time to devote to the mind control websites he sponsors and related research he is conducting. I wonder how he even finds time to sleep....And as if he doesn't have ENOUGH to deal with, he has been targeted for harassment with high-tech weapons....harassment which has been escalating ever since he became associated with me and other whistleblowers exposing the abuses of mind control.

But AS USUAL the cyber-goons are on a rampage--running amok and destroying as MUCH as they can, as FAST as they can. ( I wonder, are they paid for overtime ?.....for their sakes, I sure hope so.)

For more details re computer hacking and intimidation tactics used against my previous webmasters, please see my December 2000 report on Rumor Mill News: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RMNEWS_DAILY_EMAILS/message/9917

I have also been informed by a fellow-whistleblower, Major Steve Young, that the perps have been tampering with my phone lines AGAIN (It's nothing new.) Steve has tried to reach me by phone numerous times in the past several weeks. On most occasions he got a recorded message saying that my phone # was "disconnected" and that no further info was available. And he is only one of several people who have told me the same thing: These folks also got the spooks' recording instead of the one on my answering machine. Steve is willing to be my witness and to make a formal complaint to the phone company, Verizon, in my local area.

Ron, Steve, and many others have also had their phone calls with me disrupted by high-pitched signals, echo chambers, military-style radio transmissions and outright and repeated disconnections on the line.

As I write this, I am trying to recover from a long night of sleep deprivation -- caused by an intrusive, pervasive, LOUD, high-pitched, pulsing "signal" in my home. I am not a technical researcher, so I don't know precisely WHAT type of technology is involved. But I DO know WHO has given the orders behind the scenes. And WHY this weaponry is being deployed against me.

I may not be able to stop these perps from hacking my websites, tampering with my phone and computer lines and hitting me with their high-tech weaponry. But at least I can let EVERYONE know about their criminal activities.

U.S. Constitution, Amendment 4 states:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Although there is no specific mention of the word "privacy" in the 4th amendment, nor for that matter, anywhere in the constitution, it is certainly implied in the language, given that the U.S. Supreme Court has interpreted this amendment as a protection of an individual's "reasonable expectation of privacy". Phone taps; surveillance devices; computer hacking; theft and destruction of personal "effects"; bodily invasions such as installing implants or attacks by high-tech weaponry: ALL of these are flagrant violations of the individual's 4th amendment "right to a reasonable expectation of privacy".

The constitutional perspective notwithstanding; to my mind, the phrase "secure in their persons" certainly describes the basic HUMAN right of the "Inviolability of Personhood" as well as the right of persons to maintain their INDIVIDUAL sovereignty over their bodies. But how can we possibly maintain "security" in our persons, when the very government which is supposed to be serving us by guaranteeing these rights is instead engaged in criminal activities by violating them ?

I know that the perps' harassment of me is not helping their cause. By harassing me, all they accomplish --aside from making my life miserable-- is that my credibility is enhanced, as more and more witnesses come forward to testify on my behalf. As more and more of their transgressions are exposed. As more and more people realize that these goons would not be spending so much time and energy harassing me UNLESS I am telling the truth about their violations of human rights, many of which I have witnessed and experienced firsthand. And UNLESS they don't want that truth exposed. But then, "intelligence" was never their strong suit. And the way I see it, the term "intelligence operative" is an oxymoron --if ever there was one.

But lastly, consider this: What is this country coming to, when ministers, military personnel and other patriotic Americans like Rev. Ron Garon and Major Steve Young --whose honorable purposes are serving God and their country-- are treated like a collective Public Enemy Number One ?

God help us all.

-Barbara Hartwell

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Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 09:17:54 -0000 From: "Catcher of The Catcher in the Rye" <thefbiisthecatcherintherye@hotmail.com> Subject: microwave audio : BULLSHIT, MR. VINCENT !

Bullshit, Mr. Vincent !

I hired two former KGB scientists and collaborated with them to try and back-engineer this fascinating technology. And I also wrote a manuscript about it. STOP BULLSHITTING !!!!

------------------ IN RESPONSE TO : ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Simply asking this question in the wrong places in Canada will get you Psychciatrically Imprisoned ... permanently.

Good, because if it did work and you travelled with it to Canada, you would be Psychciatrically imprisoned.

JV --------------------------------------------------------------- Does anyone have the circuits or schematics to a microwave-audio device which is able to create the sensation of audio in the human head on a conscious basis and doesn't use the human ears to do so ?

If so, please post them here or let us know where they are posted

Some info :

http://www.raven1.net/v2s-kohn.htm

http://www.raven1.net/v2ssp.gif

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Date: Fri, 23-Mar-2001 11:24:31 GMT From: John Vincent <frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca> Subject: RE: microwave audio : BULLSHIT, MR. VINCENT !

Catcher of The Catcher in the Rye wrote: > > Bullshit, Mr. Vincent ! > > I hired two former KGB scientists and collaborated with them to try and > back-engineer this fascinating technology. And I also wrote a manuscript > > about it. STOP BULLSHITTING !!!! > > ------------------ > IN RESPONSE TO : > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Simply asking this question in the wrong places in Canada will get you > Psychciatrically Imprisoned ... permanently. > > JV > > > > Good, because if it did work and you travelled with it to Canada, you > would be Psychciatrically imprisoned. > > JV > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Does anyone have the circuits or schematics to a microwave-audio device > which is able to create the sensation of audio in the human head on a > conscious basis and doesn't use the human ears to do so ? > > If so, please post them here or let us know where they are posted > > Some info : > > http://www.raven1.net/v2s-kohn.htm > > http://www.raven1.net/v2ssp.gif > >

Feel free to do a search of the archives of this group, you may find posts that relate more specifically to your original question.

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Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 11:51:00 -0000 From: "Catcher of The Catcher in the Rye" <thefbiisthecatcherintherye@hotmail.com> Subject: microwave audio

Thanks for a more sensible reply.

-------------------------------------------- Bullshit, Mr. Vincent !

I hired two former KGB scientists and collaborated with them to try and back-engineer this fascinating technology. And I also wrote a manuscript about it. STOP BULLSHITTING !!!!

Good, because if it did work and you travelled with it to Canada, you would be Psychciatrically imprisoned. JV --------------------------------------------------------------- Does anyone have the circuits or schematics to a microwave-audio device which is able to create the sensation of audio in the human head on a conscious basis and doesn't use the human ears to do so ?

If so, please post them here or let us know where they are posted

Some info :

http://www.raven1.net/v2s-kohn.htm

http://www.raven1.net/v2ssp.gif

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Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:50:56 -0800 From: "Wes Thomas" <west@sonic.net> Cc: <KKasten@mednet.ucla.edu> Subject: RE: [MC] REAL UFO/ETs & MIND CONTROL

Comment by Kathy Kasten [KKasten@mednet.ucla.edu]:

The most fascinating position of UFO investigators/ researchers is their insistence that the government/military is lying/ covering up the "ufo phenomena." Then, if one reads the URL listed and reads testimony after testimony from either a high level military or government official, one finds that 80% of the testimony cited in the introduction of this website is military or government officials. It is a bit disingenuous to want it both ways. Sort of like eating your cake and having it too. Frankly, if you are going to call people liars how can you turn around and cite them in support of your theory? KK

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Date: Sat, 24-Mar-2001 01:33:31 GMT From: <m.a.norman@ntlworld.com> Subject: Reality Check

The loss of such a highly moral campaigner of human rights as the honourable and good Mary Robinson does not bode well for the oppressed / tortured / abused.

Re: the press release below:

Maureen

'Dear all,

In Mary Robinson's words: "You hear fine, glowing statements [on commitment to human rights], but when it comes down to it, it's not the reality". Tragic but true, as the politically elected worldwide preach human rights, legislate human wrongs, Lynette. ****************** http://www.independent.co.uk/news/World/Europe/2001-03/outside240301.shtml ) THE INDEPENDENT, London, 24 March 2001 Time for a reality check on rights, says Robinson United Nations: The outgoing commissioner doubts the world's commitment to defending human rights at the core of international dialogue mary Anne Penketh

Mary Robinson is not a quitter. "If I was, I would have left in the first two months in the job," says the former Irish president, the scourge of despots and bullies around the world for the past four years, who announced this week that she was standing down as the UN high commissioner for human rights. During her time in office, Mrs Robinson has ruffled many feathers: she angered Russia by raising the issue of abuses in Chechnya and she aired her views on the crackdown on the Falun Gong sect during a visit to China. Nor did she mince her words on the killing of civilians by Nato during the Serbia bombing campaign. Given her reputation as a feisty lawyer and campaigner, her decision to step down sent waves of consternation around the world. Activists and many governments wondered what led her to walk away from such a high-profile. Is it the end of a short-lived experiment to put human rights at the heart of international relations? Mrs Robinson does little to discourage such a view. In an interview with The Independent yesterday, she explained that her announcement that she would not seek a second term as the world's most prominent human rights advocate was designed to show governments that "it's now time for a reality check". Bemoaning the lack of resources for her office from the UN's regular budget decided by the 188-member UN General Assembly Mrs Robinson freely admits that the funding issue reflects the unwillingness of governments to make a long-term commitment to human rights issues. "I'm afraid it does beg a question. You hear fine, glowing statements, but when it comes down to it, it's not the reality," she said. Mrs Robinson announced her decision to leave the job on Monday, the opening day of the annual Human Rights Commission session, saying that she could no longer work within the "constraints" of the UN system. Noting that her office received less than 2 per cent of the UN budget, she singled out the fact that "a significant number of colleagues," including virtually all those in the field, were working on short-term, insecure contracts, "and this, to me, is deeply troubling". She also expressed frustration with the "roadblocks" of UN bureaucracy: a radical proposal to incorporate a human rights element into all peace-keeping missions was greeted enthusiastically by member states but they have failed to implement the plan. Mrs Robinson pointed to her success in attracting an additional $44m (£30m) from the main donor countries but stressed that this raised other problems because Western countries were giving "twice as much" as developing states. Whether her successor as yet unnamed will have any more luck in securing funds from the UN budget is uncertain. The intense Mrs Robinson, 56, has failed to cajole the member states behind the UN bureaucracy into financing

her office, which has grown to include a 200-strong staff in Geneva. "It's been an uphill struggle," she said. "But I have shown the office is one that warrants proper funding and support." Mrs Robinson insisted she would not abandon human rights, but would continue to lobby outside the UN, linking with non-government organisations to advance the cause. Asked why anyone should pay attention to her once she leaves office in September, she replied: "I have a moral integrity. If I have a moral voice, I am keen to continue to engage on the agenda of human rights." Mrs Robinson said she had the support of the UN secretary general, Kofi Annan, who announced on Thursday that, unlike her, he would be seeking a

second term, to pursue the link between the UN and non-government organisations to advance human rights.

"I have been to 60 countries," Mrs Robinson said. "It has given me a sense of the urgency of dealing with human rights, including civil and political rights, as well as economic and social rights, such as the right to development." '

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Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 22:06:23 -0500 From: "Russ fastrackesp Warwick" <fastrackesp@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [MC] only one savior

In a plasmatic state, accomplished by years of eastern type meditation, etheric matter and ectoplasm from our assymetical selves gives us the means to appear at times as basically anything we want, ie reptile, devil, Jesus or monster. This phenomenom is well known in Hindu circles and I have been told many times that I have 'morphed' to appear different. I have seen this done with the So-called English Teachers based in Jakarta, a CIA front specializing in the paranormal and electomagnetic radiation. I asked my guru in Malaysia about this and what am I appearing as to cause some startling reactions at times. He said that if someone appeared with ill intent, I could appear as an even bigger monster, so it seems that it is a rare survival phenomenom, now brought out by certain meditation techniques, Warm Regards, Russ Warwick.

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-- Topica Digest --

CIA Boasts of Manipulating News (Assoc. Press - 3/24/01) By cloudrider@aol.com

Electrical weapons bill By 1927@glasscity.net

Re: [EWAR] REAL UFO/ETs & MIND CONTROL By ecotoday@aol.com

RE: Reality Check By jhgraf2@earthlink.net

Re: REAL UFO/ETs & MIND CONTROL By xfiles@uswest.net

RE: microwave audio By frost_bitten_ca@yahoo.ca

ABC News on Espionage Techniques By alb@datafilter.com

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Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 09:32:07 EST From: CloudRider@aol.com Subject: CIA Boasts of Manipulating News (Assoc. Press - 3/24/01)

CloudRider comment: A quote attributed to Winston Churchill, repeated by noted war correspondent William Manchester in the title of one of his books decades ago, reads: "In war, truth is the first casualty." During the Cold War, and continuing into today, as American interests (defined by the corporate internationalists, to whom a majority of our supposedly elected officials in Washington and New York kowtow) are subordinated to planetary manipulations and hegemonies of new empires rising, the broadcast and print media and now much of the global Internet are grotesquely and cynically manipulated by operatives ("assets") of transnational propaganda forces.

As long as one recognizes this, particularly regarding "fringe" or "marginal" news and commentary contexts such as "UFOs" and "mind control" allegations, paranormal, psychiatric, "lone gunmen" and other core-stories around which conspiracies turn, it is still possible to pursue ethical journalistic initiatives, keeping to "what do we know and how do we know it" principles. Sunshine is still the best disinfectant. Fight on!

It is not "CIA" that is a primary manipulator these days. It is the Internationalistas, the French, Israeli, Russian, EU, world finance and criminal cartels, and yet other factions bent on destroying our American Experiment and capturing our future, a future without a cohesive America able to project and protect our interests and lives.

Indeed, in a world where "truth is what is believed" and "all wars are about beliefs," that dangerous land "in the province of the mind," where what is believed to be true becomes true, politically and militarily, we must renew our commitment to science and journalism, honest academic pursuits and historical facts, as our compasses.

Dick Farley <cloudrider@aol.com> Washington, DC USA

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Associated Press report follows, verbatim (AP-NY-03-24-01 0100EST)

CIA Boasts of Manipulating News

.c The Associated Press

HAVANA (AP) - The CIA boasted in a recently declassified section of its propaganda plan for the Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba 40 years ago that it would be able to place stories about the operation ``directly on international wire services.''

``Should military action be extended over a long period of time, the radio and leaflet operations previously described will be augmented by all the regular propaganda apparatus,'' read the document, which was shown for the first time Friday to key figures in the Bay of Pigs drama, who gathered here this week to compare notes.

``This will include press placement throughout the hemisphere through CIA assets; through Miami exile contacts with Florida papers; and through Headquarters placement directly on international wire services,'' read the newly declassified sections of the propaganda plan passed among conference participants in Havana.

The document did not indicate how the Central Intelligence Agency would accomplish getting its information on news wires.

Much of the propaganda plan had previously been declassified in large part as an attachment to the government's Taylor Commission report, which examined the U.S. role in the April 17-19, 1961 armed invasion of Cuba by CIA-trained exiles.

The three-day invasion ended in disaster. Without U.S. air support and running short of ammunition, more than 1,000 invaders were captured. Another 100 invaders and 151 defenders died.

The propaganda plan was also included in a briefing book supplied to conference participants. But a section on wire services was blacked out, leaving it unreadable, even though it had been declassified through the efforts of the National Security Archive at George Washington University, one of the conference organizers.

Jon Ellington, a former National Archive Security employee who used the Freedom of Information Act to gather U.S. documents for his book ``PsyWar on Cuba: The Declassified History of U.S. Anti-Castro Propaganda,'' said he received the more complete version of the document upon request from the John F. Kennedy Library in Boston.

``It may have been a mistake,'' Ellington said of the passages that were not blacked out. ``This shows how far they were willing to go, even to reach a domestic audience.''

The document said that the placement of news stories on the international wire services ``deserves special comment.''

``For in spite of all elaborate planning to reach the Cuban people and the rest of the world directly, it is the output of the established wire services which most effectively do the job,'' it said. ``One report on United Press International, for example, will be repeated on nearly every radio station and most of the newspapers of the Caribbean area. UPI was the only news agency mentioned by name.

``Because of the importance of this, military planners should be aware of Headquarters capability of placing items directly on the wire service tickers,'' the document continued.

``During a period of fighting, especially in the first few days,'' the document said, ``we will be in a position to place specific messages and propaganda lines. This will be enormously important in influencing the actions of Cuban government leaders and stimulating sympathetic support of the patriotic rebellion from other countries.''

AP-NY-03-24-01 0100EST

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Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 19:55:05 -0800 From: Pat Mougey <1927@glasscity.net> CC: 1927@glasscity.net Subject: Electrical weapons bill

This is from Roy Bercaw......please direct your replies to him. Thanks, Pat Mougey

A hearing will be held on Massachusetts House bill No. 3490, a petition by Roy Bercaw to amend Mass General Laws Chapter 140, Sec. 131 J. The text of Ch. 140 S. 131 J (an electrical weapons statute) is below with the proposed amendments. The scheduled hearing before the Criminal Justice Committee is for April 3, 2001, at 10:00 AM. Room number is not available yet.

If you can provide information come and testify; else send your comments to the two (yes, two; it is a joint committee) Chairmen of the Criminal Justice Committee at:

Senator Cynthia Stone Creem, Chairman Mass State Senate Criminal Justice Committee The State House Room 416 B Boston MA 02133 617-722-1639 CCreem@senate.state.ma.us

Rep. Stephen A. Tobin, Chairman Criminal Justice Committee Mass House of Representatives The State House Room 166 Boston MA 02133 617-722-2900 Rep.AStephenTobin@hou.state.ma.us

In view of the numerous high tech devices and weapons being tested on humans for military purposes using local law enforcement without the consent of the human subjects, penalties for possession of these weapons need to be increased. Presently police refuse to investigate no less stop the uses and abuses of these devices by police, their informants and psychologists for harassment and provocations. (They call it treatment!) It is not known how many homicides have resulted from relentless abuses of these devices by criminal psychopaths. More information is at the state site http://www.state.ma.us look under "administration;" "General Court" "Pending bills;" or type in my name "bercaw" at the state home page. Current laws are under "General Laws of Mass," in the publications menu.

Roy Bercaw

HOUSE, NO. 3490

House, No. 3490. Presented by: Representative Jarrett T. Barrios. Petition filed at the request of Roy Bercaw relative to the penalty for the sale or......

http://www.state.ma.us:80/legis/history/h03490.htm

The amendments are identified by:

***(words to be deleted)*** ***[words to be added]***

GENERAL LAWS OF MASSACHUSETTS

TITLE XX. PUBLIC SAFETY AND GOOD ORDER.

CHAPTER 140. LICENSES.

Chapter 140: Section 131J. Sale or possession of electrical weapons; penalties.

Section 131J. No person shall sell, offer for sale or possess a portable device or weapon from which an electrical current, impulse, wave or beam ***[or electromagnetic radiation, or acoustic weapons, or sound weapons]*** may be directed, which current, impulse, wave or beam is designed to incapacitate temporarily, injure or kill. Whoever violates the provisions of this section shall be punished by a fine of not less than ***(five hundred)*** ***[ten thousand]*** nor more than ***(one thousand)*** ***[five hundred thousand]*** dollars or by imprisonment for not less than ***(six months)*** ***[two years]*** nor more than ***(two years)*** ***[twenty years]*** in a jail or house of correction, or both.

Roy Bercaw, Editor ENOUGH ROOM Watch ENOUGH ROOM L-I-V-E-! Tuesday 4:30 PM ET/ 1:30 PM PT Channel 9 Cambridge Community Television Video streamed (live only) at http://www.cctvcambridge.org Rebroadcast locally Wednesday 9:00 AM Eastern Time PO Box 400297 Cambridge MA 02140 USA roybercaw@hotmail.com

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Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 20:10:58 EST From: Ecotoday@aol.com CC: west@sonic.net, 1927@glasscity.net, mc@topica.com, econews@ecologynews.com Subject: Re: [EWAR] REAL UFO/ETs & MIND CONTROL

In a message dated 01-03-23 16:26:00 EST, KKasten@mednet.ucla.edu writes: << <snip> -----Original Message----- From: ecotoday@aol.com [mailto:ecotoday@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 12:48 PM To: mc@topica.com Subject: [EWAR] REAL UFO/ETs & MIND CONTROL

KK's comments: the only comments I have seen from the moderator have been requests to provide research support documentation. >> Kathy - Thanks for your multi-part response. I am going to respond to each part separarely, because of the multi-issues in each part.

This response places on the record the moderator's post on UFO/ET and Mind Control, together with his explicit challenge to members of the list. If you or the moderator denies the authenticity of his post, and the explicit challenge included therein [Emphasis added in original}, please let you or him email me a response. My other responses to the remaining issues in your post will follow. Alfred Webre, Vancouver, BC

URL: http://www.topica.com/lists/iufo/read/message.html?mid=1705889670&sort=d&start

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WES' THOMAS POST:

MK-ULTRA returns? (fwd) MICHAEL SPITZER Mar 15, 2001 15:31 PST

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:09:11 -0800 From: Wes Thomas <we-@sonic.net>; Subject: MK-ULTRA returns?

http://mir.drugtext.org/maps/news-letters/v6n3/06319ket.shtml

http://www.freedomdomain.com/mindcontrol/mkultra01.html

Note funding by CIA cutout Laurence S. Rockefeller, purveyor of "alien" disinformation to cover mind control experiments.

See:

http://www.visitations.com/mindnet/MN137.htm

And,

http://www.towardfreedom.com/may98/messing.htm

Also, do a search (or read Acid Dreams) for members of the advisory panel at

http://www.heffter.org/

for some revealing connections. For example, Janiger:

http://victorian.fortunecity.com/daddio/202/mindctrl.html

[EMPHASIS ADDED - ALW]: I challenge list members to follow the breadcrumbs to the rest of the story ....

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/03/13/health/13DRUG.html

March 13, 2001

Scientists Test Hallucinogens for Mental Ills

By SANDRA BLAKESLEE